it would help pplz it you mentioned wether you require server side programming or just pure html with/ without java, wheter you require title artwork etc... you know, the usual.

well i all ready have some one doing it ok

No need for the attitude...

All this guy wanted to do is help and you shot him down. Next time think about your posts.

people will still need to know that kinda stuff tho, even if u just tell them (in other words - tell lits (i assume its him still doing it) what u want exactly, that way, when hes finished ur not both expecting completely different finished products)



ps - i leart waayyyy too much in IT professional studies :S:S

hey es20 how good is ya work?

nah i didnt doubt he cant make sites.. i just doubt the skeelz compared to me hehe

Im getting too old for computers.. :( rugby, gals and school rule my life now

ANY GURL GOINGS TO NUDGEELAN ?!?!!?!

probably parag0n but none that will be interested in you.

shelly has been to a setup or two? shes heaps cool.. but yer not getting caught up in gals :p

must be the admins scaring them away ;)

My sentiments exactly

yes mr skippy to the lu

lol, ok ok, so mayb its only garbz scaring them away....well him bobo and lits too ^_^

the rest of the admins just to encourage the girls to stay ;)

i think they want girls code....not mothers

i don't beg to anyone.

therefore, you're all fagets.
die.

do you need to ask? he said therefore it is.

Thats not all he does with a swift hand.........................

with my rather colourful language on the day, im surprised as many people stay as they do.

Play nicely.

all hail bortman

oh btw... OMGWTFBBQ!@^

email me about it reece and get the address right this time :)

all hail bortman

I hear ya!

this thread went downhill fast

you'd have to be nuts to be a teacher....

Yer i guess.. we should get pumping into the C or C++ after this.. but i think they have some networking crap arranged... meh bludge bludge :P

rofl.

we should get pumping into the C or C++ after this..

im learning c at the moment, its pretty piss easy.

nah think it is still C not C++ i just don't have a clue.

Also java bites donkey balls...

is it me or did those two statements roll together in the complete wrong way....

I did a very harsh photoshawp of that one too.. but i dun think its very appropriate.. ill wait till someone abuses me.

thats a goat you idiot.

No shit its a goat. If you look closesly its also strapped to a man!!1111

SD3 is now C Sharpe (or however u spell it)

Thats stupid. SD3 wasnt about OOP, it was about advanced structures like lists, binary trees and m-way trees. Learning C# should be one of the very last things you do at uni.

but yeah, learing the fundamentals of Object Oriented Programing would have been really useful in Highschool, but i think if ppl learn C++ rushed in one semester of gr 12, then when they get around to doing java theyll screw it up a lot more than someone coming in with a fresh slate - this would also probably be cause theyd think they know everything already and would act all egotistical...

In IPT we learnt a semester of access, a semester of AI, a semester of pascal + Delphi and a semester of specifications (over 2 years duh grade 11 - 12). I'm not saying that everyone should learn a object oriented language at school but i think if they don't have an interest in learning one they should not choose Software Dev as a major.

Some people can learn without a lecturer dictating to them, some can't. The ones that can't will be shit programmers unless they learn to ahem learn themselves.

But any programming at all is extremely useful. Learning the syntax, semantics of any language would be a huge help for someone going into first year. Just because you get it wrong doesn't mean you haven't learnt something. When it comes time to learn it properly, you will see your mistakes and learn a shitload more. Egotistcal because they know an OO language? To be honest if someone has that attitude they are going to fail no matter what.

edit: and java may be easy, but formal specs suck balls, and so do arrays, sets and sequences (well they may actually be very useful, just our lecturer cant seem to get it across to us on how to use them outside his own twisted programs) /end rant

Formal Specs have absolutely nothing to do with java. You will need to learn them no matter what language you do. Java is probably the BEST language to learn all this shit because you don't sit there for hours trying to figure out what your method does... Simple and Concise. Its all stepping stones. Start with something easy and move onto something harder....

Are you at uni yet? If so what year? And what will be your major?

I did the double major (DC and Software Dev). Finished last year.

Data Communications and Software Development.

I'm not saying that everyone should learn a object oriented language at school

mmm.. whats an "Object Orientated Language"?

I think i dont care what i do at school.. as long as its half enjoyable (atm we are doing resume's in flash.. which is good cuz i like flash :P)

my car is white.

This emerging tech major sounds like it has promise!

Itd be great for people who dont really want to devote to one major. Thats why i did CDC so i could have something to fall back on. Worked 3 months in DC and got bored... now working in SD and enjoying it so far.

Software isnt everyones cup of tea and im of the opinion you need to think a certain way to completely understand it or atleast not have to work hard at it...

oh, and while ive remembered (was meant to post this in one of my last two ^_^) our intro to networking subject this semester had a hell of a lot of prac work involved...yes it just installing configuring win2k/linux and comparing them etc but was still prac work and used A LOT in the cisco exam we just had to do for the same subject

did u also have this in first year and then no pracs from there on? or are they starting to change what they teach

Although i never did any Cisco related stuff through uni. I did a bit outside of uni but not IN the course. However if you had the money, they had a end of year 4 week Cisco CCNA course which pretty much bottle fed you through the entire course and got you your certs.

I, ofcoarse, didnt have the money. :)

and the cisco course we did wasnt for any certs or anything, it was just there really basic introduction to networking that we had running along side the win2k/redhat pracs and ended with a 56 MC question online exam that everyone i know went really well in - so it was more just to fill up the rest of the subject, save having to find/make up some sort of networking assignment worth 35%

yeah, we did sql databases and stuff in another subject last semester - ended up being more about writing the actual sql queries tho - was pretty easy, the exam with all complete unrelated ms access vb coding wasnt fun tho (we had learnt some access, but not to the degree we were tested)

u also needed to know some theory on transactions and the like but yeah - easy to learn