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Is the Prime Minister a crook?
cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
1804 posts
There is a very interesting story not doing the main stream media rounds... Yet.
It starts here
It is no secret that union thuggery and Mafia style extortion has been rampant for decades, but it does matter that our Prime Minister is involved. It matters even more if our major newspapers bury the story under Gillard threats and in the process trash the reputations of diligent investigative journalists like Glenn Milne and Michael Smith. Our major media has done exactly that.


While that is interesting, it doesn't read as well as the so far 4 part report from Larry Pickering.

He is saying some quite libelous stuff and so far is unchallenged. Either he has testicles the size of watermelons or he can't be sued because it's true. Either way, what he is saying, if true could land Ms Gillard deep in the s***.

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4

And the interesting interview about the recent sacking of Michael Smith

09:41pm 13/08/12 Permalink
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infi
Brisbane, Queensland
19041 posts
A couple of things:

1. There is no such thing as libel or slander. It is all under the tort of defamation.

2. Publishing defamatory information say on an internet forum, make both the author and the owner of the website liable to the tort of defamation as well.

It's debatable whether this stuff is public interest or not. But we all know she's a grub so why should any of this come as a shock.

So yeah....
10:09pm 13/08/12 Permalink
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Brisbane, Queensland
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cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
1805 posts
Facebook, twitter, the few thousand shares and retweets, 2gb, Alan jones, news corp in particular The Australian, the dozen or so other forums out there with links to this and of course Larry Pickering better lawyer up then.
10:24pm 13/08/12 Permalink
Captain Lateral
Brisbane, Queensland
4569 posts
10:29pm 13/08/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
9193 posts
Gillard never wanted to become PM.
Maybe this scandal is why.
Looks like its about to blow.
10:39pm 13/08/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
6330 posts
Are there any who aren't the forum's rabid anti labor conspiracy types to let me know if this is worth even clicking? >_
12:37am 14/08/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1636 posts
^ +1

Is there a factual analysis with sources somewhere? Or is it all BS.
03:22am 14/08/12 Permalink
Ivonin
Brisbane, Queensland
1092 posts
FaceMan, yet again your post looks like a haiku.
05:05am 14/08/12 Permalink
Persay
Brisbane, Queensland
7556 posts
I want to know the truth, but will only accept it from a limited number of sources who tell me whats right and if god does/doesnt exist
08:05am 14/08/12 Permalink
hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
10311 posts
This isn't the first time that i've read about her being a corrupt union heavyweight in the 90s, I'd say there's some truth to it
08:08am 14/08/12 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
6063 posts
09:02am 14/08/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
6331 posts
I want to know the truth, but will only accept it from a limited number of sources

Or more like won't accept a few certain sources due to known mega bias and craziness. ;)
11:19am 14/08/12 Permalink
cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
1807 posts
I think it's not a secret that Pickering is bias against labor, it doesn't mean what he is saying is a lie though.

Affidavits such as above detailing the accounts of nearly $1million are non the less quite damning of the AWU, the union from which a disproportionate number of our labor politicians are affiliated with. A union that seems to not want to proceed with a court case to retrieve this money. Why?

For what reason, who knows exactly, but you don't have to have a particular political persuasion to realise a lot of the names that have popped up, if found guilty with a crime would further decimate and illegitimize the unions, labor and bring down the government.
11:28am 14/08/12 Permalink
PornoPete
UK
747 posts
Cainer, while I am not a huge fan of Gillard this smacks of bulls***.

If it had legs it would have been all over the mainstream media.

Here is an alternate reading of the situation. IE Kernohan is a disgruntled ex union boss with an axe to grind. His Sat Dec doesn't point to any hard evidence that wrong doing took place, just that he honestly thinks it did, or in other words, he swears he is speculating.
09:50am 16/08/12 Permalink
Crusher
Sydney, New South Wales
1180 posts
Clearly its Kevin Rudd's fault
09:59am 16/08/12 Permalink
Habib
Brisbane, Queensland
375 posts
So Part V came out, and now pickeringpost.com shows Account Suspended. Streisand effect anyone? Anyhow, you can still get it here. Get it while it's hot!
05:26pm 17/08/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
9213 posts
http://www.news.com.au/national/pm-julia-gillard-refuses-to-answer-allegations-she-resigned-from-a-law-firm-after-of-a-union-scandal/story-fndo4eg9-1226453434111

Ms Gillard instead said she was the victim of an online smear campaign that was not interested in the truth and said the case had no relevance to her prime ministership.

"I am not dignifying all of this scurrilous campaigning by going through these things point by point," Ms Gillard said.

"If you've got an allegation I did something wrong, then put it. I did nothing wrong. This is nonsense and a distraction from the important work I have to do as Prime Minister."



Transcript of interview today on SKYnews
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/gillard_responds/
03:14pm 19/08/12 Permalink
PornoPete
UK
748 posts
Yeah part five is again long on hyperbole and short on facts and dates. I'd like to see a document stating that Gillard is not able to practice law again. Pickering himself has acknowledged she resigned from Slater & Gordon, but then talks about her being sacked.

The DDos could very easily be explained without donning the tin foil. I will admit that whoever is doing it is sure not doing Gillard any favors.
11:38am 20/08/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9956 posts
Gillard may win the election if she changes her stance on gay marriage.
11:47am 20/08/12 Permalink
paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
17100 posts
Gillard may win the election if she changes her stance on gay marriage.


i think you over estimate how many people actually give a f*** about that

don't let the vocal minority cloud your judgement on how many people couldn't care either way and probably care more about important things like the countries economy etc
12:16pm 20/08/12 Permalink
Azaria
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
1158 posts
It's only her personal stance, labor gets a conscience vote, where as libs have to tow the 'no gay marriage' line.
01:35pm 20/08/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9963 posts
i think you over estimate how many people actually give a f*** about that


Oh no, my young Jedi. You will find that it is you who are (sic) mistaken. About a great many things.

Not everyone may care about the gay side of it but because it is a basic human rights issue you will find that you underestimate my power!

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01:39pm 20/08/12 Permalink
ara
Sydney, New South Wales
3500 posts
i thought it was something like 60% of people are for allowing gay marriage?
03:05pm 20/08/12 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
5998 posts
Is the prime minister a cook? I heard she was on masterchef :)
03:12pm 20/08/12 Permalink
Fade2Black
Brisbane, Queensland
5095 posts
Its not always about how many are "for" a particular issue but how much they care about it.

For example:

80% of people may be for gay marriage, BUT
60% of people may only consider it a minor issue

Therefore would be more likely to vote for reasons other than gay marriage.
03:23pm 20/08/12 Permalink
Timmeh
Brisbane, Queensland
2428 posts
Its not always about how many are "for" a particular issue but how much they care about it.

For example:

80% of people may be for gay marriage, BUT
60% of people may only consider it a minor issue

Therefore would be more likely to vote for reasons other than gay marriage.

+1
I'd rather worry about if our economy is going to explode then if two people can marry.
04:37pm 20/08/12 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
5999 posts
Why can't we just pass a law that makes partners of the same sex euqally righted as married couples and that way there's a total separation of the religious part away from it.

I'd rather offically partner my loved one than try and have it blessed by a god I can't believe in.
04:43pm 20/08/12 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
9788 posts
Why can't we just pass a law that makes partners of the same sex euqally righted as married couples and that way there's a total separation of the religious part away from it.

I'd rather offically partner my loved one than try and have it blessed by a god I can't believe in.

It's not about a religion.
Heterosexual couples can get married a registry office (no god mentioned anywhere), same sex can not.

The next argument is will they can't have kids ... so surely a fertility test should be required before a marriage ? and an undertaking to have offspring ? Perhaps marriage should only be open to the pregnant ? And post menopausal women surely have their marriage nullified ? but of course it's not about the kids ...

It's not about kids, it's not about gods ... They basically get all the same tax implications already by being de'facto (including first home owners bonuses and baby bonuses etc etc). Their is no logic as to why it's not allowed other than discrimination or some "it's the feeling of it", "it's how we have always done it" argument.
04:54pm 20/08/12 Permalink
sharkuul
Brisbane, Queensland
516 posts
Can we not let this thread be hijacked by gay marriage rights.

No one f*****g cares!

The links so far have been an interesting read. I think gillard knows she's on a sinking ship. Just how many drown with her will be the difference.
04:57pm 20/08/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9970 posts
06:39pm 20/08/12 Permalink
paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
17102 posts
haha sure mate, gay marriage is a super serious country threatening issue

good luck to you if you think it's that big an issue to sway a whole federal election
07:07pm 20/08/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9973 posts
Cool story bro.
08:58pm 20/08/12 Permalink
paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
17103 posts
better than your thread spam
09:16pm 20/08/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9974 posts
Love you buddy.
09:34pm 20/08/12 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
21268 posts
It's very easy to say that gay marriage isn't an issue when you are not gay, isn't it?

This is just typical QGL logical fallacy bulls***. This time it is a classic false dilemma. Just because there are pressing economic concerns to worry about doesn't mean that we have to shut everything else down until they are covered. It's a bad trap to fall into to only take concern about economic issues and to completely ignore social issues and dismiss them as irrelevant.

edit: even if the Queensland Liberals came up with some magic bullet finance plan that would put us into surplus there is still no way I would vote for them after their little pandering to the church antics that they have gotten into since they have been in power. Same with the Federals. There is no way I'd vote for them because of their openly racist stop the boats campaign (amongst other things). Why can't we have a fiscally responsible party that isn't racist, anti-science and church pandering?
09:35pm 20/08/12 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
9789 posts
fiscally responsible

Totally depends on definition.
12:29am 21/08/12 Permalink
cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
1809 posts
Larry Pickering - the conman stalking Gillard

Aside from Slater and Gordon denying the allegation, there's a major problem with the latest instalment in the vitriolic anti-Gillard campaign being waged by Larry Pickering: it's being waged by Larry Pickering and therefore immediately lacks any credibility.


Right on cue, here comes the smear campaign

If michael pascoe did a bit of research based on what pickering has said, the reason he is pursuing this story is because of how his friend got sacked from news ltd for reporting(or attempting to) the issue a few month ago, supposedly at the behest of the prime minister herself.

the fact that someone like pascoe gets a newspaper front page to grand stand and to just s*** on someone with a absolutely nothing related to gillards alleged misdeeds is a joke.


Ghandi's saying starting to ring true

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win."

it's being waged by Larry Pickering and therefore immediately lacks any credibility.


last week it was ignored

looks like we're at the ridicule stage right about now.

his website pickeringpost.com has been DDoS'd off the internet.
02:36am 21/08/12 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
817 posts
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-20/mp-says-journalists-should-be-fined-for-mistakes/4210736

This needs to happen.

This or an apology section on the front page.

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02:43am 21/08/12 Permalink
paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
17104 posts
It's very easy to say that gay marriage isn't an issue when you are not gay, isn't it?


i never said it wasn't an issue, it is retarded that it isn't allowed without a doubt

but to say it is a big enough issue to turn a federal election is incredibly naive, most of the population do not give a s*** either way it simply doesn't affect their life.
06:37am 21/08/12 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
34142 posts
The links so far have been an interesting read. I think gillard knows she's on a sinking ship


http://www.news.com.au/national/newspoll-labor-gains-ground-on-stagnant-libs/story-fncynjr2-1226454504449

doesn't seem to be hurting labor or gillard at all really:

The Australian

, shows Labor's primary vote up two points to 35 per cent, building on the five-point gain posted a fortnight ago.

The Coalition's support was unchanged at 45 per cent, while the Greens edged up one point to 11 per cent.

In two-party terms, Labor improved slightly but the Coalition still held an election-winning 53-47 per cent lead - much less, however, than the crushing 18 points it enjoyed in April.


06:46am 21/08/12 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
34143 posts
i think we've all seen in qld what happens when you vote away from labor.

massive job losses.

just imagine that on a national scale.

and even worse, tony abbott with any real power.

god help us all.
06:47am 21/08/12 Permalink
Fade2Black
Brisbane, Queensland
5097 posts
I always enjoy a one eyed pro labor opinion from Spook.

Nothing easier than knowing you don't need to absorb what you're reading.
07:35am 21/08/12 Permalink
paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
17105 posts
do agree on the tony abbott bit, that is scary

but wait, if she changes her stances on gay marriage that will instantly gain 15 points in the polls - lul

but yes, spook's a born and break labor supporter - his parents vote labor therefore he will too, 4eva

not matter how terribad they are

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07:46am 21/08/12 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
34144 posts
:)
07:47am 21/08/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9990 posts
Me too buddy, me too.
08:30am 21/08/12 Permalink
taggs
6039 posts
This is just typical QGL logical fallacy bulls***.


no, it's not.

paveway expressed an opinion on the potential significance the average voter places on gay marriage rights relative to other issues like the economy. he said absolutely nothing about the feasibility of addressing the issue of gay marriage rights relative to other issues like the economy and certainly didn't imply any sort of mutual exclusivity.

your failure to comprehend what he has written has you jumping at fallacies that don't exist.
10:21am 21/08/12 Permalink
Captain Lateral
Brisbane, Queensland
4576 posts
i thought it was something like 60% of people are for allowing gay marriage?


20% of people have tried gay sex and 5% are "practicing". i wonder how many of that 5-20% care which register they are entitled to put their names down on OVER things like income and national security.

I do agree, Liberal pandering to the churches and rolling back changes was very bad, much more politically damaging then just "leaving current policy", but you've got to pander to your financial backers. we can see the private schools getting massive handouts ($5billion, even "wealthy" schools.)towards the end of labour reign, so at a guess i'd say they're backing labour or at least offered some sort of significant support(education overhaul that labour campaigned on 07?).

massive job losses.
if you were paying attention to the market, job losses were happening before the (quite a few) election, you can't blame liberal for it. what policy did they put into place that increased job losses other than cleaning up the public sector (over due, and we knew this was going to happen when liberal get in, they are after all much more fiscally conservative.)

its not like they are leveraging new taxes against small business or increasing the costs of transport... yet.
10:32am 21/08/12 Permalink
Captain Lateral
Brisbane, Queensland
4577 posts
Cainer, while I am not a huge fan of Gillard this smacks of bulls***.

If it had legs it would have been all over the mainstream media.


what, in this well controlled society, you'll notice my link is no longer available on the SMH?

you also notice that TrapWire has been swept under the rug. (hey, its just a foreign security company using information handed over by the QLD governments transport departments to profile your locations and behaviour. all by computer of course, because if people did it then it would be unconstitutional.)
10:44am 21/08/12 Permalink
cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
1810 posts
11:53am 21/08/12 Permalink
cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
1811 posts
pickering in response to pascoe

I won’t dignify his drivel except to make a few points that prove his rant is sheer vindictive nonsense. 1. “Serial bankrupt”? No Pascoe. I was bankrupted once (once) by my ex’s family because I refused to pay them money that was never owed. That was 5 years ago. 2. Tomato Technologies was my son’s company that operated in the exact same legitimate way as did National Futrax (the company you happened to take a dislike to) and no, Pascoe it didn’t “fail” it was sold to another listed company. And for a tidy sum I believe. But that information belongs in your financial reports, doesn’t it Pascoe. Remember? The section where you get everything else wrong too? 3. “Stables built from arsenic treated pine”? No Pascoe. My stables were made from untreated ironbark. Perhaps you may like to have a look, they are still standing. Where do you get this nonsense from? 4. Fraud? Wrong again Pasco. I have never been involved in any fraud except to have been a victim of fraud. 5. “Rabid right”. No Pasco. You had better ask Fraser and Howard about that. 6. “Millionaire’s lifestyle”? Wrong again Pascoe. I do not own a house, I rent one and I drive an 11 year-old Jag worth around $4,000. 7. If you believe I am in receipt of any dodgy funds why not take your filthy backside down to Centerlink and explain that to them... they would love to hear from you because I am on an aged pension. Wow, defrauding the Commonwealth is a criminal offence. You could actually have me jailed, Pasco, you foul mouthed liar. Unfortunately it is hacks like the far Left Pasco who continue to give journalism a bad name in a desperate attempt to defend Gillard. When Gillard is gone, pickeringpost.com will happily turn its attention to rid mealy mouthed germs like Pasco from any respectable medium. Then our newspapers might once again become reliable and accurate news sources... and without gutter snipes like Pascoe, whose only claim to fame is to defend Gillard's criminality.
12:05pm 21/08/12 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
19061 posts
gay marriage is your typical QANDA issue. the audience nods knowingly, fiegning serious concern about the issue, but once they leave the studio they don't think another second about it.

people care about whether they have a job, or whether they can get a job, and the cost of living. nothing else really matters. people are selfish in that respect.

if it came between a person getting a job or them fighting for gay marriage - gay marriage would last 5 seconds.

re Gillard, this story has no relevance to her current job performance. it is a distraction - judge her on her terrible record of more taxes and debt.

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12:31pm 21/08/12 Permalink
PornoPete
UK
749 posts
Cainer passage from that link
The new statement from Mr Gordon discloses the partnership considered "terminating" Ms Gillard after considering whether she was knowingly involved in fraud, but determined not to because it was inherently unlikely. "Nevertheless, the partnership was extremely unhappy with Ms Gillard considering that proper vigilance had not been observed and that (her) duties of utmost good faith to (her) partners especially as to timely disclosure had not been met."


My bold.

So yeah smacks of bulls***. Thought about sacking her but decided not to. Not exactly the story Pickering wants us to believe.

Considering that accusing the pm of a crime is grounds for deformation, unless it is true. I wouldn't be surprised if SMH took it down themselves, because they are not totally sure of the facts.
12:32pm 21/08/12 Permalink
cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
1812 posts
where i work there has been instances of people stealing stuff, getting caught and being given the option to resign there and then. notice and leave paid out.

i guess they must figure thats cheaper then going through all the legal bulls*** from sacking someone.
01:10pm 21/08/12 Permalink
cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
1813 posts
The statement, by former partner Peter Gordon, details the fallout after the discovery of Ms Gillard's controversial legal work for an allegedly corrupt union boss, her then boyfriend Bruce Wilson.

It says the firm considered “terminating” Ms Gillard after weighing whether she was knowingly involved in fraud and deliberate deception of her partners. Mr Gordon said he ultimately decided “this was inherently unlikely and not in her character”. The most influential people in Sport “Nevertheless, the partnership was extremely unhappy with Ms Gillard considering that proper vigilance had not been observed and that (her) duties of utmost good faith to (her) partners especially as to timely disclosure had not been met. Ms Gillard elected to resign and we accepted her resignation without discussion,” the Gordon statement says.


it doesn't smack of bulls***. it smacks of someone resigning to go to no job when they have supposedly done nothing wrong. i wouldn't quit a job after i was alleged to have done something illegal that i hadnt. but thats just me.

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01:26pm 21/08/12 Permalink
PornoPete
UK
750 posts
Yeah She had a blatant conflict of interest by representing her boyfriend which she failed to disclose.

That is not the same as embezzling union dues.

I can understand why you would resign after something like that, it's a pretty big professional oversight. Notice, however that they didn't believe that anything illegal had happened.

There is nothing in that statement that suggests to me that she was given to option to resign rather than face sacking and criminal investigation. It pretty much says the opposite.
02:38pm 21/08/12 Permalink
sharkuul
Brisbane, Queensland
517 posts
+1 for taggs post

Gg fpot! again you display to the collective qgl audience how much of a smacktard you are.

Time to tell the truth fpot, youre a homosexual boat person. Amiright?
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