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$110,000 fine for dodging GST with online shopping
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
9693 posts
ONLINE shoppers face "severe" penalties if they are caught taking advantage of loopholes to avoid paying tax on foreign goods.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/business/online-shoppers-to-be-fined-if-they-accept-fake-invoices-to-avoid-gst/story-e6frfm1i-1226379657028#ixzz1wVdsB3Xn


Of course Gerry Harvey has to weigh in, since laws these days are designed purely to benefit him.

Harvey Norman chairman Gerry Harvey said the only way to stop people doing things that are illegal is to punish them.

"When they know nothings done about it - it's no different to me bringing drugs or firearms or anything into the country," Mr Harvey said.


The champs at Kogan are against it.
01:41pm 01/06/12 Permalink
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Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
6969 posts
I totally understand that's it's completely on the same scale as bringing in weapons.

Wait, no I don't. Explain it to me please?
01:43pm 01/06/12 Permalink
funky
Brisbane, Queensland
1663 posts
What a f*****g idiot
01:44pm 01/06/12 Permalink
DM
Gold Coast, Queensland
4708 posts
the only way to stop people doing things that are illegal is to punish them

Buying from overseas is illegal now? So if I buy something from japan I can get a massive fine because I'm not paying GST on it?

EDIT - Ok only if the stuff costs over $1000. Also f*** everything about this.

EDIT 2 - I like on the title "Online shopping hurting australian retailers". Maybe this is because they f*** us every chance they get? and we are sick of it?

last edited by DM at 13:49:04 01/Jun/12
01:45pm 01/06/12 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
6808 posts
Haha oh this is going to go well. So now buying online = a stupid fine. Goodbye Ebay.
01:45pm 01/06/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6803 posts
http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2012/06/01/1226379/625173-online-shopping.jpg
I enjoyed the online shopping stock photo, clearly subscribing to internet porn.
I think I'm dodging a lot of gst on those fine services.
01:53pm 01/06/12 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
2638 posts
Is this actually news? Pretty sure there have always been fines involved if caught dodging tax.
01:55pm 01/06/12 Permalink
Alize`
Brisbane, Queensland
1654 posts
Everyone is out to rape poor Australian consumers. Surely there will be a way of enforcing/incorporating GST on such products via paypal or banks? It just seems they'd rather throw ridiculous fines at people these days instead of a more fair (for lack of better irony) approach.
01:55pm 01/06/12 Permalink
Seven
Wollongong, New South Wales
1488 posts
Breaking news: Capitalism not working for capitalist businesses
01:57pm 01/06/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6851 posts
yer it's only if you buy over $1000 in one go & the seller provides a dodgy invoice to keep it under the $1000 mark.
i would assume that there was already a law (& penalty) for dodgy invoicing to avoid tax.
01:57pm 01/06/12 Permalink
mental
Brisbane, Queensland
3184 posts
Na, as long as the price you pay matches the price on the invoice and you have proof (bank statement?) you should be right. Still doesn't make it right though, like the million dollar fines for blaming the carbon tax for a price increase without proof (when the accc says that it will be near impossible in a lot of cases to actually provide that proof).

http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/1039030#heading3
http://www.hangthebankers.com/australians-face-fines-of-over-1m-for-speaking-out-against-new-carbon-tax/
http://www.news.com.au/money/cost-of-living/dont-serve-carbon-lies/story-fnagkbpv-1226366534694
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/carbon-tax/pricing-harder-to-police-than-gst/story-fndttws1-1226367402324

Spending is down 0.2percent but I think that may also be a lot of people waiting to see the actual effects of the carbon tax before dealing their cards.

Also f*** Gerry.
02:00pm 01/06/12 Permalink
TufNuT
I like eel pie
Brisbane, Queensland
3886 posts
I haven't purchased anything from HN for at least a year and will continue to boycott HN in hope that other will do the same.
02:04pm 01/06/12 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
6809 posts
I haven't purchased anything from HN for at least a year and will continue to boycott HN in hope that other will do the same.
Don't think I've ever bought anything from Harvey Norman, not with their stupid prices on furniture and office supplies.
02:06pm 01/06/12 Permalink
mental
Brisbane, Queensland
3185 posts
I've been tempted with those couple of two laptops for the price of one and the just past buy a laptop and get a free tablet from the same manufacturer but didn't end up going, as I don't need a laptop atm.
02:08pm 01/06/12 Permalink
DecayingCorpse
Brisbane, Queensland
2018 posts
gerry harvey is a rotten little c***. i wish someone would throw a s*** pie at him. even thats too good for the prick.

i haven't bought anything from HN in over 5 years and long may it continue.
02:12pm 01/06/12 Permalink
Sc00bs
Brisbane, Queensland
8841 posts
f*** this harvey c***

go back to your gold mansion and lay in your piles of hundred dollar notes and stop complaining that people in australia are finally getting smart enough to shop overseas where everything! is cheaper
02:13pm 01/06/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19190 posts
Is this like all the people that were going to be fined hundreds of thousands of dollars for importing Mortal Kombat when it was RC'd here?

I mean, how are they ever going to know unless you're unlucky enough to be one of the few random inspections. Just seems like a whole lot of hot air intended to scare people into buying locally.
02:19pm 01/06/12 Permalink
Bromby
56 posts
What a f*****g idiot
02:31pm 01/06/12 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
12798 posts
You don't need to boycot HN. Their prices do it for you.
02:35pm 01/06/12 Permalink
Creepy
USA
1943 posts
Can't wait until everything in Australia comes from a warehouse, with no actual human sales people. Just a web portal for everything.

And then people will wonder why they can no longer have anything instantly.
02:42pm 01/06/12 Permalink
Sc00bs
Brisbane, Queensland
8842 posts
i bought a cap the other day from a us store and the c**** tried to sting me $50 for shipping for a f*****g hat...

got my $20 refund for the hat and told oldmate to suck a d***.

$50 freight for a hat, come on....
02:51pm 01/06/12 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
20743 posts
Is this one of those things where a news story gives the absolute maximum fine for an offense that would never be enforced except for large scale systematic tax fraud that someone posts on a forum and then all the users read the amount with lots of zeros and all go omg wtf this is an outrage oh look a newsdotcomdotau link yes it is one of those things (complete with HARD HITTING QUOTE FROM SOME BUSINESS GUY)
02:59pm 01/06/12 Permalink
kr0wb4r
Brisbane, Queensland
1189 posts
This makes me not only want to continue boycotting this c**** store, but actively campaigning to get other people to not spend a single cent in Harvey Norman.

Wake the f*** up Gerry you git.
03:12pm 01/06/12 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
6971 posts
Out of curiousity, how many people do you reckon have tried to purchase something random using that credit card number in the photo above? :)
03:20pm 01/06/12 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
9661 posts
Can't wait until everything in Australia comes from a warehouse, with no actual human sales people. Just a web portal for everything.

And then people will wonder why they can no longer have anything instantly.

What ? some dumb logic there.

Regionalised pricing has nothing to do with shipping, logistics or warehousing costs. And everything to do with "middlemen" publishers and marketing not getting a cut.
03:20pm 01/06/12 Permalink
orbitor
Brisbane, Queensland
8871 posts
dodging tax is illegal so people doing it deserve to be caught and fined.
03:43pm 01/06/12 Permalink
TufNuT
I like eel pie
Brisbane, Queensland
3887 posts
dodging tax is illegal so people doing it deserve to be caught and fined.


you mean like Harvey Norman Direct import? you know the site he opened so he could avoid GST?
04:06pm 01/06/12 Permalink
Taqtik
Melbourne, Victoria
18 posts
You don't need to boycot HN. Their prices do it for you.
04:38pm 01/06/12 Permalink
orbitor
Brisbane, Queensland
8872 posts
you mean like Harvey Norman Direct import? you know the site he opened so he could avoid GST?


What did that company do that was illegal?
04:40pm 01/06/12 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
797 posts
Breaking news: Capitalism not working for capitalist businesses


lol at free market types demanding regulation.

Like Gina, instead of paying more and letting the market sort it out, just lobby the government to sort it for her and import some cheap labour.
05:17pm 01/06/12 Permalink
Jerry
Queensland
4171 posts
I haven't purchased anything from HN for at least a year and will continue to boycott HN in hope that other will do the same.

Don't think I've ever bought anything from Harvey Norman, not with their stupid prices on furniture and office supplies.


I dont shop at harvey norman, COZ ITS CHEAPER ONLINE :D.. and I don't have to go to the shop, deal with sales people, go to another physical shop get a different quote, go back and barter.

If I was more of a f***wit "bogan" (mrdamn 2012), i'd say that the reason I don't shop there is our amazing anti-carbon government has educated me on the importance of this and I realised that these shops promote carbon emission through:
- Use of electricity
- customers driving in
- transport of supplies
- construction of building
- waste through tangible marketing
- sales people's hot air
- higher prices cause more carbon emission (i.e. driving to other shops to re-price)
+ Delivery of goods from store to home if not entering store or bulky item (so triple dip here - deliver to warehouse, move to store, move to house)
+ they have online shops so wtf they complaining about?

Then multiply this by the amount of phsyical unrequired shops to service a small area.

Vs online shop
- Much less electricity requirements in comparison
- Reducing carbon by piggy-backing off the use of courier and international postal systems which will operate regardless :)


Jobs and economy seem irrelevant in this context as the government certainly don't give a f*** about it.


I would just not post this now that i'm done ranting, but then it would feel like a waste.

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06:16pm 01/06/12 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
19993 posts
Every single one of you should work for news dot com dot au. The amount of idiocy in this thread is f*****g amazing. READ THE ARTICLE. The fines aren't for shopping online, they're for committing fraud and accepting a false invoice. Bunch of sensationalist bulls*** goin on up in here. Should rename it to newsgamers.
06:54pm 01/06/12 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
12550 posts
Every single one of you should work for news dot com dot au. ... READ THE ARTICLE.

The news.com.au article?!
07:09pm 01/06/12 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
19995 posts
yes, the ironing is delicious but everyone's always going on about how they report stuff that isn't even news so I thought it was fitting.
07:52pm 01/06/12 Permalink
Jerry
Queensland
4172 posts

Every single one of you should work for news dot com dot au. The amount of idiocy in this thread is f*****g amazing. READ THE ARTICLE.
nah f*** that I just wanna read the tagline and winge.. like a boooogan



edit: found better video

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