A MOTHER of two has revealed she breastfeeds her two sons who are aged three and five.
Jamie Lynne Grumet, 26, appears on the cover of Time magazine breastfeeding her three-year-old, a photograph that is guaranteed to provoke a fierce debate among parents around the world.
Ms Grumet, from Los Angeles, has spoken about how she also applies the same attachment parenting method to her adopted five-year-old son Samuel, and tells the magazine she was breastfed by her own mother until the age of six.
I gotta say, I'd suck on those titties given the chance
2 is about when it becomes weird though, by the time they can walk they should be off the tit imo
I dont think Ive ever seen a mother feeding a child like that.
you should totally watch game of thrones.
on the issue... what issue?
imo the issue is that in this modern, wasteful, lazy society people have too much free time on their hands so they start sniping & bickering about what other people are doing that might be a bit different to the way they think things should be done.
That cover would not exist if she was not hot. Another good example of how oblivious Americans are, always the most pointless shit on the Time US covers.
yer one time we had these people next to us at the football in our old seats, we had our membership seats but the seats to our left weren't under a membership so it was luck of the draw as to who/what sat there each week
and they had this kid and at one point there kid has asked for 'boobie' and stood there like between her legs and breast fed
i think it is fucking disgusting to let it get to that age, there is something wrong with you
best one was a lady the other night at sushi taking her entire top off to breast feed her kid (this is right in front of the sushi train mind u, not in a corner/booth)... man next to her asked her to move or put her shirt back on and she went ape shit going on about "how its natural and u have to deal with nature"
At least the extra competition will keep the husband sharp I guess. The midwifery expert linked to in that article reckons women are geared up naturally to do this until 7ish - look how Bad Boy Bubby ended up though. Nature gets it right a fair whack and when the time comes I'm going to suss that Caricare Gold or whatever's label right out - I may just even get them started early on my protein mix! :p
The other day I was in a cafe eating lunch and I looked over at this attractive lady and gave her the ol' flat-lipped smile 'o recognition before I realised she had one boob busted out with an infant attached.
If I wasn't a face guy I'd probably have seen the kid and gone back to my lunch before chopping her out with a smile, which in hindsight might have come across a little creepy.
Pinky wait until you're in a small room with your wifey and her friends and they all have boobie popped out with a kid gnawing on the end of it..
Then see how awkward it gets when you say "This time last year I'd have given anything to be in a room with all your boobs out!" and nobody laughs.
Hahaha.
Yeah, but fuck that. They have no right to make it awkward. That's a funny joke and if they aren't prepared to have a laugh then FFS whip your tits out elsewhere.
If that really happened I'd be down on anyone that didn't laugh. Lighten up.
I've seen a few "comedies" make light of breast feeding infants in diners/restaurants/etc and there's always some guy who refuses to look away from his sandwich but complains how awkward he feels. Why is it awkward? It's their choice to get their tits out in public. I don't get it.
Oh no, woman has boobie out, better stare at my sandwich instead of the friend sitting next to me who I was having a conversation with but now that some random woman has boobies out I must be silent and stare straight ahead. WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE SANDWICHES.
Grow a pair, walk right up to her and use the old classroom example when they catch you eating in class: "either share it with everyone or put it away"
I don't find it awkward at all. If women want to breastfeed in public I couldn't care less.
If i disagree with that and do find it awkward does that make me some kind of bad person? Just hypothetical. But what if i'm a quiet reserved human being who finds things like that offensive for one of many reasons be they religious or a different upbringing (like they are giving to their children). I don't like conflict so i stay out of it. Does it make me a bad person to try and promote my view and try and move the status quo by telling other people that i dislike this and trying to persuade them to agree?
Besides if you did in public go up and say to her face "Share it with everyone or put it away" you'd quickly incite a lot more people to suddenly become polarised.
Besides if you did in public go up and say to her face "Share it with everyone or put it away" you'd quickly incite a lot more people to suddenly become polarised.
Yes. Let's just go up-to a woman minding her own business feeding her child and ask her for a suck.
Does it make me a bad person to try and promote my view and try and move the status quo by telling other people that i dislike this and trying to persuade them to agree?
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Yes. Now go eat your sandwich.
lol @ people thinking I was serious about the share it round thing, and getting all cranky about it. I bet you were never breast fed huh. Do you seriously think anyone would be that stupid to actually say something like that to a total stranger without being A) suicidal B) mentally handicapped or C) 5 years old? lmaoplane.
Breastfeeding should occur until 6 months at an absolute minimum (in the absence of very good reason) and ideally until at least 2 years of age with a lot of evidence to show that breast milk continues to provide benefit for several more years after that.
People that have a problem with a mother breastfeeding in their presence are a problem, but so are pretty much all bigots, idiots and fuckheads.
lol @ people thinking I was serious about the share it round thing, and getting all cranky about it. I bet you were never breast fed huh. Do you seriously think anyone would be that stupid to actually say something like that to a total stranger without being A) suicidal B) mentally handicapped or C) 5 years old? lmaoplane.
!fireup
I'm pointing out that no matter what you do - if you make any kind of objection in public (no matter how you say it) you're instantly the bad person.
Hell even talking about not liking it makes you the bad person, even though you're of just a different standpoint.
I don't really give a fuck but it's kind of dumb that for those who would they'd end up in an even worse situation pretty quickly.
In my books, every shopping centre i've been to in the last while has a mothers room where they can do these kinds of thing. If people can hold off having a smoke till they get outside, then maybe they can plan their shopping around breastfeeding 2mins later in a room. Privately for them (i suppose i've not seen inside one).
Not that this is on topic. But it's semi related.
As for how old, i think it'd be one of those things to ask a psychologist. What kind of issues do you have when you breastfeed someone so they're that dependant on you till what age? Surely separation too early is bad but too late could that actually cause issues too?
I mean talk about a momma's boy.
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Yes. Let's just go up-to a woman minding her own business feeding her child and ask her for a suck. Fuck wit.
Yeah ok if you were saying he got fired up, yes. Yes he did. I don't think he understood that it was a bit of a joke that was relevant to the whole situation. But that's ok sometimes people don't get it over the net.
^Some 'parents' rooms (not just for mothers) are private with pull shut curtains and a couch with room for a trolley and/or pram in the cubicle. Others just have a bunch of chairs next to the sink, microwave and baby change pull down table. I'm a single Dad with two daughters, before they were old enough to send to the toilet by themselves (as a pair) I would take them to the toilets in the parents room because I'm not taking them into the mens room. Most mums didn't care, some death stared me like I was the devil wanting to pounce on their exposed, saggy, hairy nipples but meh, you'd need a fantastic pair of knockers for a breastfeeding memory to make it to the spank bank.
There is a lot of discussion in here if it's right or not etc. If it's better for the kid or not. Not much discussion on if it's completely redundant now... I think it is.
This quote at the bottom of the TIME article doesn't surprise me at all...
"Biologically we’re meant to keep breastfeeding until our children are three to five years old, but socially it’s far from that," she said. "We can't even get them exclusively breastfed for six months."
Some studies have found the "natural age of weaning" can be as high as seven years old.
But in the end of the day we aren't cavemen any-more. We have formula and women work only weeks after giving birth these days. My partner was back to work only 6-8 weeks after giving birth.
If we need formula it's only a 2 minute drive away. The days of having to nourish our children from the breast are hundreds of years away.
I think the problems with society and the taboo nature of mothers breastfeeding in public don't stem from 'if it's normal for a human to breastfeed up to 7 years of age' but rather that it's something that is so far redundant it's not necessary at all. It's archaic.
Perhaps we should skin animals, butcher the meat and cook it up to feed out kids at the shopping centre as well?
I know what you're saying gamer, it's the fact that time has changed. 500 years ago it might have been ok to keep breastfeeding for a longer time because the only natural healthy balance of young child sustinance was from a mothers teat, but in modern times we've figured and improved on it.
Plus like i keep questioning, there's a lot more than the whole 'what's best for the kids diet' i'd think. We can obviously offer a perfectly balanced diet without a mother anyway's. There's kids who have grown up from birth without a mother from complication during the birth.
But i'm not exactly versed in those things and aside from a mild curiosity i think it's a bit silly. I find it odd when someone's feeding in public, i wonder if they're doing it right in the largest gathering of people they could find in purpose (like a food court) or if they genuinely are oblivious and find it natural. Are they seeking attention or are they just tending to a natural impulse completely oblivious.
But i'm not exactly versed in those things and aside from a mild curiosity i think it's a bit silly. I find it odd when someone's feeding in public, i wonder if they're doing it right in the largest gathering of people they could find in purpose (like a food court) or if they genuinely are oblivious and find it natural. Are they seeking attention or are they just tending to a natural impulse completely oblivious.
Most of the time it's because their child is hungry. So it's probably not on purpose or seeking attention. When wifey was breast feeding she would put a cover over if she couldn't find a parents room or if the parents room was filthy as fuck and didn't want go sit in there for 15 minutes.. Some of those places reek of shit from the over flowing nappy bins and are pretty disgusting.
So infants should be banished from a food court when they need their lunch? People who hold that point of view no doubt think gays should be bashed, women kept in the kitchen and blacks put to work on the farm... or certainly would if that were the cultural view of the times (i.e. 60 years ago)
They simply go along with whatever they perceive the consensus view is without ever stopping to critically think about an issue or research any facts about it. For largely historic religious reasons, it is politically acceptable to revile breastfeeding, particularly in public. The large majority of drones/deadweight that make up society and this thread just assume that stance. The levels of illogical justifications and rationalisations that some then need to advance (skythra). That mothers' milk has been obsoleted with superiour synthetic substitutes (instantly proven wrong if one spends 2 minutes researching this) should cause the alarm bells to ring.
Faceman, I have to say I'm pretty disappointed that you've fallen for the Big Formula propaganda on this one...
Why wouldnt a Mother want to spend that feeding time alone with her baby ?
Its really about selfishness, something else is more important, having a coffee, socialising, shopping.
The fact is B(.)(.)Bs are Sexy and hanging a tit out is sexually arousing for Men (and Lesbians).
Don't some women's breasts get so sore and tender they just can't breast feed? Some might be selfish, some might think formula really is better and some may just be physically incapable (double mastectomy). I don't think it's fair to just say anyone who doesn't breastfeed is a selfish bitch.
Are you also saying that hanging a boob out in public is so arousing men won't be able to help themselves? Do you think women should all cover up from head to foot & wear burqa's too?
I don't think it's fair to just say anyone who doesn't breastfeed is a selfish bitch.
Agreed, one of the wifeys friends had a baby who would refuse breast milk but munched on formula. The mother went through all sorts of turmoil and self hate (granted some could be post-natal) because all these phamplets and messages out there say that "Breast is best" and if you don't give your child breast milk you should burn in hell for eternity.
The large majority of drones/deadweight that make up society and this thread just assume that stance. The levels of illogical justifications and rationalisations that some then need to advance (skythra).
Is this true at 5 years old? Which is the topic at the first post. Which i'm referring to. And no it isn't 2 seconds of searching.
I know what you're saying gamer, it's the fact that time has changed. 500 years ago it might have been ok to keep breastfeeding for a longer time because the only natural healthy balance of young child sustinance was from a mothers teat, but in modern times we've figured and improved on it.
Plus like i keep questioning, there's a lot more than the whole 'what's best for the kids diet' i'd think. We can obviously offer a perfectly balanced diet without a mother anyway's. There's kids who have grown up from birth without a mother from complication during the birth.
But i'm not exactly versed in those things and aside from a mild curiosity i think it's a bit silly. I find it odd when someone's feeding in public, i wonder if they're doing it right in the largest gathering of people they could find in purpose (like a food court) or if they genuinely are oblivious and find it natural. Are they seeking attention or are they just tending to a natural impulse completely oblivious.
Oh so this is you talking about the exclusively breastfeeding 5 years olds (something no one anywhere has suggested) and not just being an ignorant douche about breastfeeding in general? Sorry, my mistake, you see it looked very much like you were just being an ignorant douche about breastfeeding in general.
(but you do deserve kudos for doing some research and finding out that 5 year old kids need to be fed real food... well done!)
Whilst I can't comment on most of this, being a young and single gentleman. It seems wrong to me that it's viewed as 'okay' for some women to force extreme levels of public breastfeeding upon the public at large.
If the public must be tolerant to nudity and child suckling, why shouldn't mothers be more tolerant to people who don't want to see that in public?
Pooping is 'nature', yet we don't do that in public and claim human rights violations when people stop us from attempting.
Im not complaining about breastfeeding, just that some Women want to be an "exhibitionist" about it. You dont do it in public just like you dont take a slash in public.
Oh so this is you talking about the exclusively breastfeeding 5 years olds (something no one anywhere has suggested) and not just being an ignorant douche about breastfeeding in general? Sorry, my mistake, you see it looked very much like you were just being an ignorant douche about breastfeeding in general.
(but you do deserve kudos for doing some research and finding out that 5 year old kids need to be fed real food... well done!)
We were talking about the times article. Hell, gamer quoted it.
This quote at the bottom of the TIME article doesn't surprise me at all...
"Biologically we’re meant to keep breastfeeding until our children are three to five years old, but socially it’s far from that," she said. "We can't even get them exclusively breastfed for six months."
Some studies have found the "natural age of weaning" can be as high as seven years old.
And yes, so therefore I do believe that somewhere between or before 3 to 5 years old, we probably have better solutions than breastfeeding that are scientifically provable. I don't know where the studies are that show that a good age to wean kids is at 5 years, or how they reached that conclusion though. But other studies have led to many support networks and childhood parenting pamphlets being released with balanced diet suggestions.
What is the logic in the mother eating nutrients, converting it into breastmilk then feeding it to the kid when he could just eat the food himself straight up!!!
The mother makes it and feeds it to him the attachment is already there!!!
You could use the same argument for having sex with your own teenage children.
No think about it... like, sucking on breasts, increasing this mother/child connection... It's the same logic really, 'I was building a deep connection with my son, whilst teaching him about sexuality.'
No think about it... like, sucking on breasts, increasing this mother/child connection... It's the same logic really, 'I was building a deep connection with my son, whilst teaching him about sexuality.'
so, because a mother can breastfeed till some stupid age, you feel it would be okay to have a "deep connection" with your son
errr, i think there is a large difference between some fully formed 5 year old, and anal raping your children
Both my kids weaned at at 22 months and 18 months. By this point they were only comfort sucking, and not actually using this as a meal supplement. I'm of the opinion that if a child is old enough to eat and get the nutrients from normal food, then that's probably the best time to wean them off. Not totally against the breastfeeding past that age, but think it's non-necessary and more about comfort for the mother rather than the child at that point.
I'm all for breastfeeding in public, although a little modesty is required, the chick someone mentioned popping off her top to feed her child is a little over the top. That's not legal normally, why would it be ok when feeding a child when out anywhere? If it's just a cheeky nipple out from under the shirt, I don't see any harm in a mother sitting down wherever she pleases to feed her child. Kid's gotta eat! :)
My wife was more than happy and comfortable to feed wherever she was, but it's not like she was popping the girls out all over the place for everyone to see... She's by no means a full blown lactivist, but was definitely adamant she wasn't going to go and hide in the parents room every time she needed to feed our kids. There were times when it was EASIER, like if the child was tired and over stimulated by the noise of a busy location, there's no way in hell they'd stop looking around and eat properly, so sometimes it was in our favour to go to the parents rooms.
edit: sorry, don't know how to embed - surprised there isn't some clickable option like there is for image or quote
I made that image for another person in a thread a long time ago. Actually it's not 100% relevant because now you have to click "share" then "embed" and then follow that image.
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