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Parliament probes technology price gouge
crazymorton
Brisbane, Queensland
3008 posts
so we're going to have an inquiry finally.

Apple and Microsoft will be among technology companies asked to explain to Parliament why Australians pay much more for music and game downloads from iTunes, for example, than overseas customers. Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/technology-news/parliament-probes-technology-price-gouge-20120428-1xrl2.html#ixzz1tOGhZOVl

Parliment probes technology pricing

i wonder how much it will uncover and how much power they have to actually change anything?
11:57am 29/04/12 Permalink
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11:57am 29/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15035 posts
about fucking time.
11:58am 29/04/12 Permalink
Kiminoth
Perth, Western Australia
68 posts
Yeah I saw the link before on google news, couldn't go into it for some reason :(
Great to hear though.... Took them long enough.
12:13pm 29/04/12 Permalink
step
Brisbane, Queensland
2448 posts
Hopefully this will get the ball rolling. It's been a joke for such a long time.
12:25pm 29/04/12 Permalink
HurricaneJim
Brisbane, Queensland
1135 posts
12:29pm 29/04/12 Permalink
SlayerWilliamX
New Zealand
6 posts
They should also explain why they fix the prices on their hardware e.g. Xbox 360, iPhone etc.

The NZ govenment should do the same here.
12:32pm 29/04/12 Permalink
parabol
Brisbane, Queensland
6936 posts
They always quote "regional market demand/forces", etc when anyone brings up the price differences. Absolute scum!



last edited by parabol at 12:43:56 29/Apr/12
12:41pm 29/04/12 Permalink
3dee
Brisbane, Queensland
7013 posts
Adobe is the worst for that. The new CS6 international prices are atrocious like previous releases. They say that they price it to the "working costs" of the country's businesses. Utter bullshit.
12:48pm 29/04/12 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
19807 posts
Yeah I just upgraded to Lightroom 4 last night and saw the US vs AU prices of photoshop. I lol'd.

What I also don't get though, the upgrade and full versions are exactly the same except for the key so if the upgrade version can be so much cheaper then how do they justify the huge AU price on the full version?
01:10pm 29/04/12 Permalink
E.T.
Queensland
4278 posts
I hate this shit so much. It's over a year since I sent a letter to the federal member who bought it up back then. Regional pricing is such BS. Get behind it people. Write emails and let the Politicians know how much we hate this shit.
01:21pm 29/04/12 Permalink
TufNuT
I like eel pie
Brisbane, Queensland
3869 posts
i predict nothing will come of this... i also expect apple and Microsoft to start making generous campaign contributions..
01:29pm 29/04/12 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
19808 posts
^^ That, or they'll demand lower prices and apple/ms will respond by just not selling anything to us at all.
02:02pm 29/04/12 Permalink
gamer
2440 posts
Asif apple or ms would wipe their hands of australia, we are a huge population of customers for them... neither of them would do that.
03:18pm 29/04/12 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
5443 posts
Microsoft for example, often have more than one license per person - Some people have a work pc, a work\home laptop and a home PC all with paid licenses. I'd dare say that there would be several million licenses sold in australia if not more (maybe even closer to a dozen million or more) for a MS product.

You could never justify to your shareholders for dumping a whole country, even one as small as ours. In the IT world, it's pretty hard to increase your sales when you already have penetrated so deeply so growth can only come from population expansion and economic growth. Going backwards would only hurt them.
03:36pm 29/04/12 Permalink
Beanith
Brisbane, Queensland
228 posts
Doesn't it just boil down to Australia really isn't that big a market (with a pop. of 21 million) and if they want to make a decent profit selling here, then they'll want to charge more?

Using Skythra's rough est of 7 million copies of windows (one copy for every 3 people), there would be 100 million copies in the US. (pop. 311 million)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population if you're bored, might come in handy for pub trivia :P
04:32pm 29/04/12 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
970 posts
Whilst it doesn't necessarily apply to 'digital download' purchases, it occurs to me that as a part of Australian Consumer law that there is a lot more to the puzzle for physical purchases.
05:30pm 29/04/12 Permalink
koopz
Brisbane, Queensland
9632 posts
no one in our Govt will admit that we're merely a drop in any IT market in terms of proffit

Industrial Age thinking is still going to rule over this :(

grats to those who're pushing that envelope though

05:49pm 29/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4731 posts
Back when the dollar was nowhere near parity, US$999 -> A$1519 was probably a reasonable price when you factored in the exchange rate and reseller margin. Now that we're we're hovering around parity they've simply left the price where it was but now it's a big and blatant cash grab.

I can't see anything coming of the enquiry though. Is government going to start setting digital download prices themselves? The cure could be worse than the disease.
06:18pm 29/04/12 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
2568 posts
They wouldn't set prices, why would you even think that would be an option?

I agree that it's unlikely anything will come of the enquiry but if it did it would be something along the lines of having prices match that of the US market to stop regional discrimination.
06:32pm 29/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4732 posts
They wouldn't set prices, why would you even think that would be an option?

That's my point - the government telling private business what price they must sell their product in the marketplace for wouldn't work in practice. It's ridiculous, akin to all the huffing and puffing the government does about interest rates.

Federal Labor politicians are hoping the publicity generated by calling the companies to account for their pricing policies will result in prices dropping.
In other words, people will still need to complain loudly. The loud complaining hasn't worked up until now, so what makes politicians think it'll work after an enquiry?
08:28pm 29/04/12 Permalink
Superform
Netherlands
7382 posts
i dont think its about getting the companies to do anything.. its more about awareness
08:59pm 29/04/12 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
12597 posts
If it gets people to realise that they can buy from alternative places/methods that don't gouge, then I'm all for it.

Too many people are simply not aware of the massive increase in prices they pay across a range of goods, not just electronic downloads.
11:17pm 29/04/12 Permalink
TufNuT
I like eel pie
Brisbane, Queensland
3870 posts
i dont think its about getting the companies to do anything.. its more about awareness


seems like a massive waste of money then.
11:50pm 29/04/12 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
19814 posts
If it gets people to realise that they can buy from alternative places/methods that don't gouge, then I'm all for it.

Too many people are simply not aware of the massive increase in prices they pay across a range of goods, not just electronic downloads.

The trouble is, given the option of giving my details to adobe to buy photoshop off them, or to buy it for half the price at alsbudgetsoftware.co.hk.fr.kr then I'm fucking certain I'm going to get it off adobe even if it is more expensive.
11:58pm 29/04/12 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
13109 posts
seems like a massive waste of money then.

That's my opinion.
12:31am 30/04/12 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
20534 posts
This is one example of where I subscribe to those kooky 'free market saves all' policies. It is not like Apple and Microsoft products are bread or healthcare. You can easily get by without them and if you are really desperate for it you can just pirate it. Raising awareness about it is great to let people know about other options but I can't help but think a whole bunch of money is going to be wasted on this for not a spectacular result.
12:47am 30/04/12 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
19817 posts
if you are really desperate for it you can just pirate it.
Not real sure it'd be in the best interests of big businesses to be running pirated software. Plus, how do you pirate a macbook? Also if you play online games you sort of need a legit copy most of the time.
12:54am 30/04/12 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
20535 posts
I was mainly referring to music and game downloads and that sort of thing.

Business is a good point, though. Is it possible for businesses to operate on opensource software if they really tried or would it literally be impossible?
12:57am 30/04/12 Permalink
Jim
12845 posts
generally speaking it's possible, but pretty lame
03:53am 30/04/12 Permalink
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