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GST for overseas online shopping
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
9462 posts
Looks like the Australian Government is considering trying to make overseas online retailers pay GST for goods sold to Australian consumers.

http://www.news.com.au/business/retail-relief-gst-plan-to-hit-online-shoppers/story-e6frfm1i-1226336436109

If it is voluntary then I think their plan will just make certain online retailers unattractive in favour of those that don't comply.

Fail.
07:22pm 23/04/12 Permalink
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Scooter
Brisbane, Queensland
5789 posts
And Online will still be cheaper anyway, so people wont shop retail, so it fails at what it was set out to do.

Double fail.
07:31pm 23/04/12 Permalink
DM
Gold Coast, Queensland
4502 posts
So instead of trying to help reduce the inflated costs in our shops, they say "fuck it, just charge GST for online stuff"
07:40pm 23/04/12 Permalink
Ozzy
164 posts
Online is easier and it gets delivered to your door and you don't have to stuff around with traffic...

TRIPLE FAIL!
09:34pm 23/04/12 Permalink
parabol
Brisbane, Queensland
6923 posts
Online is easier and it gets delivered to your door and you don't have to stuff around with traffic...

If those benefits are all you are after, an Australian online store will suffice for you.

The benefits of overseas stores is being discussed, the main one being of lower price even after you hypothetically slap a GST on top.
09:52pm 23/04/12 Permalink
Nukleuz
Perth, Western Australia
156 posts
So the government that said it would cost more in administrative fees than it would actually bring in revenue is caving in? What a gross waste of money!

Do they really think that 10% is going to make a difference when the price is anything from 50%-200% higher when buying retail?

"Oh noes! Paying GST... oh wait it's still $50 cheaper".
09:55pm 23/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14970 posts
i thought there was a report that said it wasn't cost effective. did they decide to just ignore that?

09:55pm 23/04/12 Permalink
Scooter
Brisbane, Queensland
5792 posts
Wouldn't be the first time.... ahh forget it. It's like kicking a sick dog, when it's lying in the gutter.
10:00pm 23/04/12 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
12880 posts
old mate Gerry Harvey is probably salivating at the very prospect
10:21pm 23/04/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
8733 posts
Wow this means online goods will be 10% more expensive,
still 20% cheaper than buying from a Store.



10:33pm 23/04/12 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
9465 posts
I buy stuff online all the time now, it started with stuff you could only get at a particular online store, or amazon, then onto clothes because I hate clothes shopping, but now I buy all kinds of normal shit. My most recent purchases are batteries, a thermometer from china, a drill bit from the UK. Cheaper than going to the shop and a bloke rocks up at work and hands it to me, why shop any other way really?
10:33pm 23/04/12 Permalink
Nukleuz
Perth, Western Australia
157 posts
I read this and it has changed the way I think a little.

Still hasn't changed my support for online shopping.
10:52pm 23/04/12 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
5416 posts
Increase the cost by 10% but when i'm buying it for less than 25% of what it costs here in australia, my 25 dollar game with 10% only takes it to 27.50.
10:53pm 23/04/12 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
2557 posts
It doesn't say anywhere in the article that the Government is going to put GST on online sales. They commissioned a report, they do that for everything but that doesn't mean they are going to implement it.

In fact it's more likely that they will spend millions on a report and then completely ignore it's recommendations, that's how Government works.
12:21am 24/04/12 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
962 posts
Soo the only reason that Australia 'hasn't been crippled' by the current recession is because the Aus Govt is now (seemingly) profiteering on EVERY SINGLE point of possible revenue that they can?

It wouldn't bug me if they'd offer at LEAST a little 'give' with everything else that they 'take'.

It seems that the 'best place to live' in Australia is within Australian Politics... (or the public service) where the pay and conditions are so great that adding 10% to ones expenses simply means that your annual income will be boosted by 4% annually (regardless of performance or responsibility)
01:01am 24/04/12 Permalink
Tiny
Brisbane, Queensland
3229 posts
You guys seem to forgot not everyone wants to shop online. Some people prefer to go to the shops still . It's a form of fun or some people, women mainly!. I shop online for things I know I can save heaps of money on but I am still going to to the store for shoes, clothes etc. I love it how you all are jumping on the bandwagon that everyone shops online, clearly they don't or the shops wouldn't be making money.
08:06am 24/04/12 Permalink
Jim
UK
12823 posts
tiny did you just run full pelt and smash through a sliding glass door with your head, get up dazed, and then type that post?



didn't want to give lolnewscomau any traffic so read this one instead http://www.zdnet.com.au/uproar-at-retailers-online-gst-campaign-339308281.htm
it's already been said, but it's funny that these retail mogul tools think adding 10% tax to a chunk of these online sales, will have any bearing whatsoever on whether people decide to bend over and take it up the ass from them. 'retail relief', lol
08:48am 24/04/12 Permalink
$ack
Brisbane, Queensland
1490 posts
Online is easier and it gets delivered to your door and you don't have to stuff around with traffic...

If those benefits are all you are after, an Australian online store will suffice for you.

The benefits of overseas stores is being discussed, the main one being of lower price even after you hypothetically slap a GST on top.


I'm sure most 'Australian online stores' get their stocks from overseas stores and resell them anyway, so this sounds like it's just going to put up costs for these Australian stores too... Sounds like another fail to add to the list.
11:17am 24/04/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
8734 posts
I like to go and buy stuff, get it now, take it home.
The Hunt, the kill.
Its not the same buzz buying online.

Im wondering just what the Malls of the future will look like.
Supermarkets are still untroubled by online competitors but once buying groceries online takes off, why would ppl go to Malls anymore ?

Sure more Jobs will be created by Companies delivering those products, but if ppl dont go to the Mall to buy groceries they also dont grab a coffee and something to eat, they dont go to other stores.

The amount of mall traffic will fall.
They will turn into ghost towns.
11:31am 24/04/12 Permalink
Jim
UK
12825 posts
plenty of malls already are ghost towns, but not because of online shopping - it's because of their proximity to other things, and other malls that cater better to what people like

what you're talking about isn't very different, although you might be getting ahead of yourself a little - successful malls don't exist soley to provide people with tangible products which is why online shopping only takes some of their potential patronage
11:45am 24/04/12 Permalink
natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
7736 posts
Great article Nukleuz, very interesting. All I was thinking was she's got it lucky compared to the people actually making and packing the dildos

11:03pm 24/04/12 Permalink
Nukleuz
Perth, Western Australia
158 posts
I remember when people were up in arms because companies like Nike etc were running slave/sweat shops in third world countries so that people could get their cheap shoes or whatever else.

Now all of a sudden a supposed first world country like the US is so economically fucked that people will do anything for a job, even to the point of working in third world like conditions. Don't want to comply? Plenty of people willing to take your place. There's the door...
12:28am 25/04/12 Permalink
Nitro
Gold Coast, Queensland
2192 posts
Good old socialist band-aid policy. Just put a tariff on it! Now there's a new problem? Add another tariff!
12:47am 25/04/12 Permalink
Seven
Wollongong, New South Wales
1465 posts
Because living in Australia isn't expensive enough...
01:54am 25/04/12 Permalink
Sc00bs
Brisbane, Queensland
8777 posts
i wish our pays went up as quickly as the taxes do
10:56am 25/04/12 Permalink
Coochie
Brisbane, Queensland
816 posts
I'm sure most 'Australian online stores' get their stocks from overseas stores and resell them anyway, so this sounds like it's just going to put up costs for these Australian stores too... Sounds like another fail to add to the list.
GST is effectively only paid once by the retail customer. The middle guy who now has to pay GST to buy the item will have his GST bill reduced by whatever GST he paid to buy the good from the overseas store. At least that's my understanding of how GST works.
11:55am 25/04/12 Permalink
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