http://torrentfreak.com/french-three-strikes-law-slashes-piracy-but-fails-to-boost-sales-120330/

A new report on the effectiveness of the French three-strikes anti-piracy law claims that it managed to cut Internet piracy in half last year. While lobbyists are making preparations to show these great results to politicians worldwide, there is one thing the report fails to mention. Despite the claimed decrease in piracy, revenues through legal channels are down as well. This is strange, because in previous years these losses were solely attributed to piracy.

Apparently 'that might be ok' doesn't mean 'I'd pay $10 for that'.

Seems likely Rev. The report only talks about p2p traffic I believe.

Why does the logic persist that eradication of piracy would increase sales of infringed material? Surely the economics of this don't stack up.

Do pirates have buried disposable income chests somewhere?!

Why does the logic persist that eradication of piracy would increase sales of infringed material? Surely the economics of this don't stack up.

Do pirates have buried disposable income chests somewhere?!

I have a map for mine, but I strategically placed it around certain places in pieces, along with marking the buried treasure with an X.

I may have missed a thread about it but that seems quite hardcore

Hardcore? What, you think they are also trying to spies on your dataz?

It's not strange at all that sales have dropped - everyone with half a brain knows that word of mouth reports from the pirates cause people to go out and buy the game if it's any good, or they buy it themself after they've tried it to see if it's worthwhile.

Hardcore? What, you think they are also trying to spies on your dataz?

Nah, not worried. Even if they did, the more pictures of the food I cook and me posing with hotties they have in their possession the better! :P

it'll be aliens for sure
what else could it be? it can't be that law enforcement keeps coming up against oblivious households with unsecured networks when trying to track down perps of online crime, that's just not mysterious enough

^ Faceman

There was this guy who used to live outside UQ in St Lucia, who owned dozens of geese and dogs or something, and had a house that you had to walk in a huge berth around due to how terribly it stank (I think that I saw workers with masks throwing vinegar over the whole thing after a few years, when he was finally booted).

Anyway, he caused a fair bit of trouble, had some sort of stalky conflict with some female students at some point. Apparently he's now running for the Senate. He had (or has) a Website which covers many of the same topics as yours. My only advice is, consider what kind of people are feeding you these ideas constantly, and what road you may be going down. Do you recognise the circular-thinking insanity in that site?

dunno about having our best interests at heart, I'd guess the primary motivation is making their jobs easier in future. you know, like chasing pedos, saving the whales etc

Is there any surprise here that 'dealing with piracy' doesn't directly effect 'improving sales'?!?

Surely not?


As I see it, the re-invention of the 'shareware' model, combined with smaller purchase prices has dramatically adjusted my need to find 'a free alternative' to software I'm interested in.

I quite enjoy only spending $5-6 on an application (Hell, I spend more on lunch on any given day) I will get quite some use out of (I KNOW it cost the application developer more in terms of their own time, but on a scale large enough, and without them needing to line a publishing and production companies pockets, I'm only feeding the guy who wrote the app, not the dozens of mouths needlessly latching on in that older sales model)

I'm also all for this whole 'kickstarter' model for game creation. In recent years some amazing game titles have been crippled by the publishing/production companies involvement. 'Pay in advance, and become a part of the games development' and who knows, you might wind up inadvertently working as an advertising agent for the game?

No I actually had a longer post in the original Network Fishing thread.

At times i feel like Paul Revere riding through Towns warning that the Redcoats are coming, but everyone just goes back inside to watch MasterChef, kardashians, jersey Shore, on big screen, baby bonus Plasmas.

At times i feel like Paul Revere riding through Towns warning that the Redcoats are coming, but everyone just goes back inside to watch MasterChef, kardashians, jersey Shore, on big screen, baby bonus Plasmas.

I've felt similar, when focusing on too much random raving on the Internet. Perhaps you're letting paranoia and feelings of superiority get the better of you? - Check out the website again and look at it clearly distilled.

someone should pirate the entire internet. that'll show them

I'm on it, dw.

As I see it, the re-invention of the 'shareware' model, combined with smaller purchase prices has dramatically adjusted my need to find 'a free alternative' to software I'm interested in.

as I see it, buying mates/friends/etc games/handy PC and mobile apps/mobile net access/cheaper from online retailers beats retail offerings.

I bought (step)Dad a retail copy of MS Flightsim a few years back, which bought tears to his eyes on delivery. The experience of seeing this truely hardened bloke have an emotional episode made me feel like I'd just invented the flying car. (read: he has only one emotion usually.. it's related to seafood somehow so I'm told :/)

It really was something to behold seeing a hardened old 70s-80s IT guru fight back the tears as he experienced a gift that wasn't really that useful, but an acknowledgment that someone 'gets him'.

I still do that today with friends. I will admit, I'm just copying the ideas I learned from 'Phycho!' while he was a regular member here in the forums.

Sure - my mates can prolly warez/app/tune any game on the planet, but we've reached that point in life when we really shouldn't.

Gifting them these 'digital items' is the best thing I can do to help in changing their attitudes in a positive way while also providing acknowledgment of their worth as an personal associate. At first they responded in the expected way: 'dude you wasted you money giving me this - check your inbox'

I usually reply to their email with their credit card details.

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I wonder how they justify hiring all the lawyers/security companies and whatnot to pursue copyright infringers? I can't see any way of recouping all of the costs involved in these campaigns.

How so? The stance you are aligning yourself with yields the same result as what I proposed - they get a letter in the mail and maybe the people who do have their networks secured will get a little more insight as a bonus. Clearly I have been out of the game for a while and I am more than likely missing something in the semantics of it all. :)

Yeah, true enough I guess. It's mad listening to you guys - teq, trog, nathan, etc talk about tech - my knowledge is well and truly past it's use by date and my interest is waning at best. We shall see how it all pans out! :)

that doesn't sound like a story on this at all

to do this, as explained to you already in the other thread, there's no hacking required. the wireless access point inside the house BROADCASTS the radio signals in all directions. you simply read those radio signals that are transmitted into the street and all around the house and look for the authentication information. this is essentially, if not exactly the same thing our smartphones, for example, are doing constantly as we walk around the city and see it displaying messages such as 'wireless networks found' using regular wireless scanning methods. eg: http://linux.die.net/man/8/iwlist

there's no 'pointing antennas in to people homes without their permission'. there's no 'HACKER LOL CAPS' required (sensationalism much?)

but hey, don't let facts get in the way of your theory.


do you work for today tonight? your account of their story is incredibly reminiscent of their style

So what you're saying Jim is that as we walk around, collectively everyone is pointing their smartphone antennas at everyone else. Scary stuff indeed!

I'm under the impression that it's got nothing on what the sun is constantly dousing the Earth with.

http://xkcd.com/radiation/

Oh yeah Fulcrum means Mig, and Mig means Communist.

So plenty of red tape at this one.

your schizotypal is showing again faceman

I know, I visited her over Easter and she complained you were the worst she'd ever had.

Yep, all those guys agreed with her that you were the worst they've had as well.