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Seinfeld actor shoots himself in the head
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
9027 posts
An actor who played on Seinfeld is fighting for his life after attempting suicide.




Apparently he did it to avoid going to hospital for a toe amputation?

He suicide attempt failed and he rang 911 to report the head injury:

http://www.wdam.com/story/16995795/seinfeld-actor-daniel-von-bargen-attempts-suicide-calls-9-1-1?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=6770957

He is best known for his role as Mr. Kruger on Seinfeld and Mr. Grady in Super Troopers.

Von Bargen is also known for his roles in "Malcolm in the Middle" and "The West Wing."


http://au.eonline.com/news/seinfeld_actor_calls_911_after_shooting/296005

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/02/22/seinfeld-actor-daniel-von-bargen-survives-suicide-attempt-makes-harrowing-11/
11:59am 23/02/12 Permalink
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11:59am 23/02/12 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
12703 posts
Wow, that's nasty. Sad story.
12:01pm 23/02/12 Permalink
glynd
Melbourne, Victoria
595 posts
i have nothing but respect for emergency services. imagine having to receive those calls every day. but yeah, such a sad story.

The 911 call makes me want to spit in a cops face. They always have to be so antagonistic no matter what.


to be fair, they're entering a house with a guy who's suicidal and armed with a pistol.
12:17pm 23/02/12 Permalink
kappa
Brisbane, Queensland
1814 posts
How can you make a 6 minute long call to 911 after shooting yourself in the head?
12:17pm 23/02/12 Permalink
mission
Brisbane, Queensland
8385 posts
Who was Mr Kruger on Seinfeld?

He doesn't look familiar and I don't remember that name :/
12:19pm 23/02/12 Permalink
CHUB
Brisbane, Queensland
8562 posts
That was a bloody intense phonecall... how sad.

Who was Mr Kruger on Seinfeld?

He doesn't look familiar and I don't remember that name :/
He was a significant character, he was in loads of episodes.

last edited by CHUB at 12:25:08 23/Feb/12
12:23pm 23/02/12 Permalink
kappa
Brisbane, Queensland
1815 posts
Who was Mr Kruger on Seinfeld?

He doesn't look familiar and I don't remember that name :/

Lol really? George worked for him. Kruger Industrial Smoothing.

12:24pm 23/02/12 Permalink
d^
Melbourne, Victoria
803 posts
http://youtu.be/z6kVBGeQeR4

Can't embed due to youtube being gay.
12:27pm 23/02/12 Permalink
Reverend Evil™
Wynnum, Queensland
19954 posts
Take a lot of guts to shoot yourself I reckon.
12:31pm 23/02/12 Permalink
DeadlyDav0
Brisbane, Queensland
1614 posts
Fuck seinfield, he was in the epic movie SUPER TROOPERS as Chief Grady i think.
12:37pm 23/02/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14554 posts
Take a lot of guts to shoot yourself I reckon.


or none depending how you look at it.


12:40pm 23/02/12 Permalink
mission
Brisbane, Queensland
8386 posts
Ahhh yeah I gotcha.
12:41pm 23/02/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5407 posts
or none depending how you look at it.

We're all the descendants of countless generations of life which lived, inheriting the survivors' competing natures, it'd take a shitload of willpower to attempt to kill yourself given that I'd think...
12:54pm 23/02/12 Permalink
funky
Brisbane, Queensland
1550 posts
nah, willpower is living and driving though terrible, frustrating circumstances striving for better things, not taking the easy way out and making it worse for your family and friends.

willpower is doing something about it if you are depressed, or having a tough time, not giving up on yourself.

there isn't anything shameful about being depressed, but in my opinion there is with not doing your utmost to improve your life, be that medication, or therapy, or whatever.
12:57pm 23/02/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5408 posts
nah, willpower is living and driving though terrible, frustrating circumstances striving for better things

That's too abstract for me, I was talking about literal fighting-one's-evolutionary-nature-at-its-core willpower.

Anyway, before presuming too much about getting undepressed as a definitely-even-available option, I'd suggest you try a few decades of it if you haven't. It's the latest styleeee maaan. All-in attempts to improve your life may just make it fifteen-fold worse when you utterly fail it seems...
01:05pm 23/02/12 Permalink
bepatient
Melbourne, Victoria
859 posts
Ohhhh Chief Grady from Super Troopers ;(
01:10pm 23/02/12 Permalink
Outlaw
Gold Coast, Queensland
1541 posts
I assumed this was going to be kramer
01:12pm 23/02/12 Permalink
Reverend Evil™
Wynnum, Queensland
19955 posts
I mean, actually taking a gun and pulling the trigger would be hard, Just knowing that you're about to blow your face off would take a fair amount of guts to do. I'm not talking about the consequences. I doubt I could go thru with that. I'd go the easy way and take a shitload of pills and alcohol if I was gonna do it.
01:20pm 23/02/12 Permalink
Damo
Brisbane, Queensland
5946 posts
I'd do the same if I was involved with seinfield.
01:48pm 23/02/12 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
12626 posts
what the fuck, how do you shoot yourself in the temple at point blank range with a .38 then live to tell about it?
01:49pm 23/02/12 Permalink
Alize`
Brisbane, Queensland
1640 posts
I watched a show on 911 calls years ago with the exact same situation. Pills would also be my option. No way would I shoot myself.
01:53pm 23/02/12 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
9029 posts
pills are for girls and people hoping to fail at suicide

true story
02:45pm 23/02/12 Permalink
Outlaw
Gold Coast, Queensland
1543 posts
Is there a suicide rule saying you can't take pills and shoot yourself?
03:00pm 23/02/12 Permalink
Scooter
Brisbane, Queensland
5554 posts
Only if you fail Outlaw.
If you succeed, they don't press charges.
03:09pm 23/02/12 Permalink
kappa
Brisbane, Queensland
1816 posts
In one of the Seinfeld opening monologues Jerry jokes about people who fail at killing themselves, saying their lives are now even worse because "here is another thing you stink at".
03:13pm 23/02/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14555 posts
I mean, actually taking a gun and pulling the trigger would be hard, Just knowing that you're about to blow your face off would take a fair amount of guts to do.


it seems hard to you and probably most other people because you enjoy life. some people with the gun in their mouths might see it as the easiest decision of their lives.
04:27pm 23/02/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5410 posts
I doubt that it'd ever be easy, it'd be like jumping out of a burning building because the fire is more frightening, as I think I've heard analogised before. Having been super depressed, it's crossed my mind tbh, and it's not about it being easy, it's about life being unbearably painful.
04:34pm 23/02/12 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
11973 posts
Nerfington said it wouldn't be easy so just acknowledge his opinion and move the fuck on.

Have we learned NOTHING from 2011?
04:35pm 23/02/12 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
9031 posts
The thing to learn here is that people seem to think it is appropriate to debate about whether enduring pain vs killing oneself is more courageous or easy. We learn little about suicide, it's obviously far more complicated than the scope of these debates, but we learn a lot about the people engaging in these arguments.
04:50pm 23/02/12 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
12630 posts
opinions from someone who can't drive? no thanks
I think the vast majority of people who live normal lives really do have absolutely no clue about mental health
04:53pm 23/02/12 Permalink
DeadlyDav0
Brisbane, Queensland
1616 posts
opinions from someone who can't drive? no thanks

lol. No offense to the guy but i think that everyfuckingtime. Plus there was the post where people posing with guns freaked him out so hes pretty firmly in my crazy category.
05:07pm 23/02/12 Permalink
Crakaveli
USA
6022 posts
lol K UGER
05:50pm 23/02/12 Permalink
Habib
Brisbane, Queensland
354 posts
He tried to shoot himself in the temple, rookie error. Everyone knows aiming for the brain stem through the mouth is the way to make sure of it.
06:51pm 23/02/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5411 posts
Mm, why listen to the depressed pathetic guy on what it feels like to be depressed and pathetic eh? >_>
07:21pm 23/02/12 Permalink
Reverend Evil™
Wynnum, Queensland
19958 posts
Wonder if he had the gun aimed slightly forward so it shot out the front of his forhead?
08:09pm 23/02/12 Permalink
Fade2Black
Brisbane, Queensland
4909 posts
Von Bargen is also known for his roles in "Malcolm in the Middle" and "The West Wing."


just looked him up on IMDB, he was in ONE episode of the west wing. Watched that series through 6-7 times and don't recall him at all.
10:27pm 23/02/12 Permalink
HurricaneJim
Brisbane, Queensland
1026 posts
Wonder if he had the gun aimed slightly forward so it shot out the front of his forhead?


Celebrity gossip website TMZ.com reported that von Bargen shot himself "in the temple" during an apparent attempted suicide on February 20, 2012. He placed a phone call to a 911 operator who dispatched an emergency unit to von Bargen's Montgomery, Ohio apartment. The actor suffers from diabetes, and has already had one leg amputated. He was due to have "at least" some toes amputated on the other foot, and did not want to submit to another surgery.


Still cowardice in my book

just looked him up on IMDB, he was in ONE episode of the west wing. Watched that series through 6-7 times and don't recall him at all.


Yeah he played a no name general (USAF 3 star) in two episodes In the shadow of two gunmen part 1 (S02E01) and Noel (S02E10). Strangely enough Noel was the episode about Josh, his PTSD, and the pilot who flew into the mountain deliberately.
10:55pm 23/02/12 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
12632 posts
Still cowardice in my book


imagine living life every day and all you can think about is how bad everything is, like there is literally no hope
you have no control over it, you can't do anything to combat it, it's 100% outside of your control, which makes you feel ever worse, it compounds on itself like a vicious never ending cycle

now tell me, what would you do?

some people are lucky enough to have people to help them, but there are lots who aren't so lucky.
I think it's pretty pathetic that ignorant people such as yourself still take such archaic views on mental health, but that's your generation i suppose.
11:04pm 23/02/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5412 posts
Indeed. Mind-crazy can get really bad, where simple judgements like 'bravery' and 'cowardice' no longer apply, just an animal trying to endure the pain. One would be very lucky to be so unfamiliar with it that they can look at it that way. When the past, present, and future are bleaker than you ever imagined they'd be, bravery and cowardice aren't even real things, just silly words thrown around by talking apes living in some other world.
11:20pm 23/02/12 Permalink
Reverend Evil™
Wynnum, Queensland
19963 posts
It's funny how he's remembered for being in Seinfeld when he was only in 4 eps. But he was in 15 eps of Malcolm In The Middle. Although I never watched that show so I have no idea who he played in it.
12:27am 24/02/12 Permalink
Bah
Brisbane, Queensland
4663 posts
And in Malcolm he had both his hands cut off.
07:46am 24/02/12 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
11974 posts
Mm, why listen to the depressed pathetic guy on what it feels like to be depressed and pathetic eh? >_>

Being depressed doesn't actually make you an expert on depression.

It sure as shit doesn't mean you get to declare with authority how other people's illness makes them feel.
08:20am 24/02/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5416 posts
Hog you say the most random tooly ragey things so far from the context of anything which was actually said. gg, I'm out.
10:16am 24/02/12 Permalink
Pharcyde
Kilos
Brisbane, Queensland
5057 posts
Watched that series through 6-7 times


*high five*
10:36am 24/02/12 Permalink
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