Joshua Bell plays his 3.5m violin in a subway.. no one cares
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A onetime child prodigy, at 39 Joshua Bell has arrived as an internationally acclaimed virtuoso. Three days before he appeared at the Metro station, Bell had filled the house at Boston's stately Symphony Hall, where merely pretty good seats went for $100. Two weeks later, at the Music Center at Strathmore, in North Bethesda, he would play to a standing-room-only audience so respectful of his artistry that they stifled their coughs until the silence between movements. But on that Friday in January, Joshua Bell was just another mendicant, competing for the attention of busy people on their way to work.
If your travelling on a train your not in a mindset to be entertained or look for entertainment. You just want to get where you gotta go and make sure you don't get robbed and gang raped by some meth tweakers.
Also, the random public are worlds away from the cock suckers who stand for a whole performance and only cough when it's polite ...
If your travelling on a train your not in a mindset to be entertained or look for entertainment. You just want to get where you gotta go and make sure you don't get robbed and gang raped by some meth tweakers.
gang rape by meth tweakers and classical violin music aren't mutually exclusive though surely?
I guess that's how they lure you in, with a bit of the old Ludwig Van.
Also, the random public are worlds away from the cock suckers who stand for a whole performance and only cough when it's polite ...
IIRC the station in particular was chosen because it had the highest likelihood of a station which people attending his paid concert would be passing through (high socio-economic area blah blah blah). (i.e. at least some commuters would be people that had forked out $100+ to see him play)
Cant expect his music to be enjoy by a much of monkeys of the streets... you need to play for them pop or mainstream vomit music and they will throw their unwashed underwear at him
probably should read "artists removes marketing element of performance and finds out he isn't that special"
hahahaha
you need to play for them pop or mainstream vomit music and they will throw their unwashed underwear at him
i cant stand pop or alot of mainstream shit and i also cant stand some wanker who thinks he is gods gift to the world bust out on a violin and be offended when everyone doesnt stop to listen to it.
The only way classical music is good, is at 160bpm with a dirty bassline behind it...
I hate buskers in Queen Street who badger you for money if you walk by them. Seriously, I'm passing by, and obviously not in the mind set to notice, so please, go about your business, but don't try to annoy me to give you money.
I hate buskers in Queen Street who badger you for money if you walk by them. Seriously, I'm passing by, and obviously not in the mind set to notice, so please, go about your business, but don't try to annoy me to give you money.
What pisses me off soo much are fucking Seacret stores in shopping centres, particularly indooroopilly shopping centre, they bug me every single time I go past, which is actually a lot cos I usually enter through a door near them.
Even though they probably remember me by now they still ask, and you give them this look from 20m away that no fucking way are you going to talk to them, yet when you go past you they go "can I ask you a question?". I'm usually fairly nice to people IRL but if it continues at the current rate I'm going to either say fuck off out loud or make some sort of t-shirt saying, "No, Seacret I don't want to buy your fucking product!" and walk by them all day until they understand.
looks at scoobs - looks at his top tune selections for 2011..
especially the last tydi one..dude that is some shallow pop music right there.
The rest of em are what would be considered pop music for clubs.
back to the OP
Someone already called it - The place is a nexus for ppl in a hurry - about the opposite of a suitable place to appreciate a virtuoso violinist.
The rest of em are what would be considered pop music for clubs
errr.. maybe you should have a look at what music actually is. Dont think armin van buuren produces pop artsits.... think he 'employs' trance artist/ prog trance...
especially the last tydi one..dude that is some shallow pop music right there.
just because there is a girl singing and its not about smoke in relation to water with some long haired tattooed man ripping a guitar up smashing shit and kicking speakers over....
errr.. maybe you should have a look at what music actually is. Dont think armin van buuren produces pop artsits.... think he 'employs' trance artist/ prog trance...
To people into underground (club) music Van Buuren is considered pop music.
just because there is a girl singing and its not about smoke in relation to water with some long haired tattooed man ripping a guitar up smashing shit and kicking speakers over....
What does Deep Purple and Pete Townsend have to do with what we are talking about? :P
Are you assuming I don't know much about club music production and DJing?
You CAN have deep music with a girl singing.
I will admit over the years that I have liked some shallow pop music - the difference is I am aware of it and admit it and I try not to throw stones in my glass house ;)
I thought it sounded good and if I wasn't in a rush to catch a train I certainly would of stopped for a listen.
Personally I have no drama with buskers at all, makes that mundane walk to work that bit different I guess. I'd say I come across more better ones than I do lame ones, so I can't complain.
As far as some people saying he's crying about it I couldn't see a complain - I just figured he did it as a social experiment.
To people into underground (club) music Van Buuren is considered pop music.
ROFL i cant believe you just said this.... oh if only i was in the underground club scene as heavily and hardcore as you dethon :P ... then my life would be so fulfilled
ROFL i cant believe you just said this.... oh if only i was in the underground club scene as heavily and hardcore as you dethon :P ... then my life would be so fulfilled
I don't understand your statement.
Are you saying that you have been involved more than me?
To people into underground (club) music Van Buuren is considered pop music.
LOL, you don't have to be the coolest underground club scene guru to know that van Buuren is pop. They play and advertise him on B105 and Nova. Being pop does not make him any less a talented or accomplished musician.
"Doesn't every college sophomore majoring in English because they have no freaking clue what to do with their life know that disdaining the derivative is the height of unoriginality?"
Wow reading those comments, paypal seems like a very risky thing to use as a payment provider. Seems a lot of people buy through paypal, e.g. downloadable software, and then get a refund back through paypal and the seller gets nothing but wasted time.
Even worse, this scheme of PayPal’s makes a great way to perpetuate fraud. Want to swap the fake Vuitton bag you bought on Canal Street for a real one? Just buy that real one on eBay, pay through PayPal and report the ‘fake’!
That story made me almost sick with rage, Trog. I'm not a materialistic person in the slightest, but the wanton destruction of such a historic piece of art like that just infuriated me.
All the anti-Paypal rhetoric is quite new to me though; I have had nothing but great experiences in dealing with Paypal. However, I just buy things online occasionally (like once or twice a month). Have they always been this horrible, or is it a recent trend?
my ex sold somethin on ebay few yrs ago and the person recieved the goods, decided they werent what she wanted and made up something saying it wasnt the right item and paypal automatically take the money straight out of her account.
Never used paypal after that, such dogs.
Another time a mate sold 7k worth of stuff on ebay, was about to transfer it over from paypal but they wouldnt let him, apparently he had to wait 1-2months for them to process someshit (which it says in their terms and conditions) .. or in otherwords if you make lots of money we will be keeping it in a high interest account for a month or so.
Paypal has always been bad, it's fine if both you and the other person are completely honest, but in disputes it kills everyones account and then locks whatever funds (sometimes tens of thousands of dollars) literally at ransom until it decides arbritrarily to not lock it anymore.
There's no dispute resolution process and speaking to someone is at paypals leisure through an online system.
Once my paypal account was trying to be hacked for example, back in 2004 or whenever the end of the vanilla WOW was before the first expansion, I was selling my grand master mage WoW character, i was getting something around the sum of 400-500 dollars for it and then my paypal account was suspended for failed logins from overseas locations.
I lost access to the account and never got it back, and the person who sent the money to the account was also suspended (for no real reason) eventually his money was refunded 2 months later (well into the latest expansion so the GM mage was now worthless as blue level 65 gear was better than epic level 60 GM+BWL+T2.5 etc gear).
Anyway the end of the story was i lost my 500 dollars, and had to create a new paypal account, he didn't get what he wanted and his money for spending on a WoW character was stopped (probably best for him anyway) and there was nothing I could do. A rep spoke with me but they dismissed whatever i said and closed the session and their word was final.
I'd just like to point out at no point was the question of selling the character on ebay in question with the paypal transaction. The only reason it was locked was apparently failed logins from overseas IP addresses and they wouldn't believe me that I was the owner. Even though i gave half my life history.
Why couldn't the item be returned to the seller and only when the seller confirms they have recieved the item back does the refund get processed?
Maybe I'm missing something :/
So I could buy something, make a claim it was a fake even though it isn't (say a rolex), smash it, get a refund and the seller gets sweet fuck all? Seems pretty dodgy way of doing business to me.
I guess to further that you could but a geniune rolex, then samsh a fake one that looks the same, get your $1,000's back. Profit.
Because they can just do the fraud again. Or never admit it came back.
This way there's never any fear for someone to buy things, which is often the hard thing to get acceptance for, you can force sellers to use your currency by making it mandatory in their shopping centre, but to get buyers trust you gotta do stupid shit, like destroy antiques.
Instructing people to destro shit without any proper investigation of allegations seems ludicrous and bordering on illegal as you are destroying someone else's property, fraud or not.
Agreed, but Paypal playing the role of police and instructing the destruction of sellers belongings because the buyer *claims* the item is not as described (without, it seems, any real evidence or justification) is just as lol worthy.
In the end it's just a transaction like any other, so utimatley it's buyer beware.
I have received a $300 fine from the QLD Government over an ebay dispute in about 2001 when ebay's policies were much more in their infancy than they are today. The buyer, from eagleby, wanted a refund on a 2nd hand hard drive - and he did have a kind of half valid reason which was about the serial/batch number not being as pictured - I didn't even know that was a thing people cared about - but it made no difference to the capacity/brand/quality of the drive, but refused to give the drive back as it was no doubt still perfectly suitable for his purposes, so I refused to give the refund. We argued about it for a while, and it resulted in me getting arrested, compelled by police to refund the $40 to the buyer, and then I got a $300 fine in the mail some time later. Since then I have discovered from other police that this was entered into police databases as "computer fraud" without a court hearing or conviction. I get upset about it to this day. Under more recent ebay policies, though I can't remember exactly why, I would have been protected against this sort of thing. Also I'm stupid for not involving a lawyer, but I was young and didn't realise something like that could happen because I hadn't done anything wrong.
Also probably didn't help that I tried to explain to the police that they were idiots.
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