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FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
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11:27pm 10/11/11 Permalink
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11:27pm 10/11/11 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
4830 posts
Better link would be the youtube version being touted around all day. So painful to watch.



It's interesting though faceman, I woulda thought you'd have taken allies where you can find them. ;)
11:30pm 10/11/11 Permalink
DM
Gold Coast, Queensland
3731 posts
That guy is a tool. Can't answer a simple question that you should know if your running for the US presidency. I love how he keeps looking to Ron Paul as if he is going to hold up a card with the answer on it for him.
11:32pm 10/11/11 Permalink
eK
Brisbane, Queensland
10510 posts
Doubt that will lose him much support in his home state of texas... they probably think what he said was genius
11:38pm 10/11/11 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
7548 posts
i like the "Oops" at the end.
Its like the debates just dont matter, its a bit of theatre.
They are prolly right.
11:40pm 10/11/11 Permalink
Jayman
Brisbane, Queensland
575 posts
Imagine all the people who have poured money into that guys campaign face palming right now.
11:42pm 10/11/11 Permalink
DM
Gold Coast, Queensland
3732 posts
It's sad that the republican party has become so anti-intellectual. They all seem to believe in only the bible and refuse to acknowledge global warming, evolution or anything else like that. Not to mention their continued rape of the middle class. I'm with Bill Maher on "I fully understand why the 1% will vote republican. I don't get the other 99% voting for them" and it's true. Like republican voters lock onto 1 or 2 sound-bites like "no gay marriage" and just run with that.
11:47pm 10/11/11 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
4831 posts
i like the "Oops" at the end.
Its like the debates just dont matter, its a bit of theatre.
They are prolly right.

So he's part of the government selection conspiracy, but also simultaneously not part of the climate change conspiracy. He's a sneaky one. >_>
11:48pm 10/11/11 Permalink
stinky
USA
3648 posts
that's my governer!
12:30am 11/11/11 Permalink
Some Fat Bastard
Brisbane, Queensland
1042 posts
I like how he says "get rid of the Dept of Education, Dept of Commerce and ?" I wonder if he thought Dept of Health.

What a loser, so keep the USA uneducated, sickly and unable to manage an economy.....sounds like a great plan.
12:38am 11/11/11 Permalink
kr0wb4r
Brisbane, Queensland
1044 posts
I heard this american guy on AM radio this morning, some academic from the US who was going on about the state of things in the states. He was republican, and going on about how decadence and democracy cannot co-exist.

When asked what he meant by decadence, he was talking about how same sex marriage was a decadence that we need to get rid of, the porn industry as well, etc etc.

Just listening to him was really fucking painful and the radio station (4BC maybe, not sure) lost all credibility in my eyes just for having him on, as the host wasn't the slightest bit perplexed at what he had to say and almost carried on as though he supported it. Felt like I was watching today tonight or something - dirty.
12:40am 11/11/11 Permalink
qmass
Queensland
10184 posts
I doubt it will hurt him much, at least in the primary.

If cain can have his highest week of donations at the same time as sexual harassment allegations surface then not knowing some departments of the stupid wasters in Washington aint gonna do shit. Its hilarious how that weiner bloke had to quit over some consensual photo swapping but you can run for the top job after your actions were judged bad enough to warrant ~45 000 dollar settlements.
12:55am 11/11/11 Permalink
Jayman
Brisbane, Queensland
577 posts
03:41am 11/11/11 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
4820 posts
That guy is a tool. Can't answer a simple question that you should know if your running for the US presidency. I love how he keeps looking to Ron Paul as if he is going to hold up a card with the answer on it for him.

I dunno, i don't know if you could say it's a simple question because the enormous stress that you'd be under. I have trouble in an exam condition sometimes when i get that mental blank about a word, but in front of several million people i think it'd be even harder.

However, it does suggest he's not exactly cut out to be a leader of the nation, because that setting isn't exactly going to be uncommon.

As for him as a person? Oh that's a separate issue. He probably quite rightly is a tool.
06:23am 11/11/11 Permalink
Sc00bs
Brisbane, Queensland
8168 posts
Can't answer a simple question that you should know if your running for the US presidency


going from their previous presidents (bush) i dont think being able to answer questions like a normal person is very high on their check list
06:45am 11/11/11 Permalink
Creepy
USA
1834 posts
Reminded me of this:

07:04am 11/11/11 Permalink
taggs
5732 posts
department of energy is the 3rd one he's said in previous interviews iirc.

besides, perry's campiagn had already tanked well before this debate. this just sealed the deal: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

What a loser, so keep the USA uneducated, sickly and unable to manage an economy.....sounds like a great plan.


when your economy is in that much debt it makes sense to decentralise functions of government that are unnecessary at a federal level in order to minimise expenditures. the department of commerce doesn't really "manage their economy" in a macro sense, it's a regulatory body. the department of education aren't the ones who educate kids (it's largely a bureaucracy - in fact the many of the most higly performing schools in the US are the most decentralised i.e. charter schools, you should see a documentary called the lottery about charter schools it's eye opening and really well made) and the department of energy has failed in one of its key mandated tasks (although it is some of the way there - achieving US energy independence). one of main problems i see with this plan so far is that the US equivalent of the ACCC is part of the dept of commerce and consumer protection laws are essential to the orderly functioning of an economy imo - there would need to be provisions for this functionality to continue.

there are strong arguments for what he is advocating (which of course you don't have to agree with, there are arguments against it too - i understand where he's coming from and agree that there are massive efficiency gains to be made in the US public service but probably wouldn't go so far as to eliminate the departments altogether particularly in DOC as there are bodies that fall under that banner that perform essential economic research such as the BEA), he just seems to just have a profound inability to communicate, or perhaps even understand, these arguments.

the other thing to understand is that during primary season all candidates swing hard to their respective side of politics in order to woo their own party's voters. republicans swing hard to the right, democrats to the left. once the race has begun proper both candidate will swing back to the centre to attract the independent voters. that's just the incentive structure that the US system has created.
07:14am 11/11/11 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
6132 posts
Yikes. Ron Paul is looking more and more like a better choice all the time.
08:46am 11/11/11 Permalink
Chakas
USA
3416 posts
Perry is done. Republicans can't let him go up against Obama with material like this ready to be exploited. Moderates must already be shaky on the idea of Perry, and the thought of him handling negotiations with foreign leaders like this should scare them no end. Bachmann is viewed as crazy, Cain is a sinking ship with a campaign not sure how to spin their way out, and Paul seems to says one dumb or completely unpalatable thing to consistently overshadow the four or five good points he makes before it. Huntsman is too nice, moderate and well thought to gain traction and be noticed in a Republican debate, and hence that field so far. Santorum is rightly ignored, as is Gingrich who is from the old guard and doesn't appeal to 'values voters'. And that leaves Romney who would win easily if he weren't a mormon/former governor of a liberal state/elitist.

We'll wait and see who trips over themselves the least I guess.
09:30am 11/11/11 Permalink
Trauma
Melbourne, Victoria
2033 posts
I hope that really does end his run. The guy is far too religious, best candidate would be someone who fakes being a christian.
11:35am 11/11/11 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
6134 posts
I hope that really does end his run. The guy is far too religious, best candidate would be someone who fakes being a christian.

Colbert/Stewart 2012? :)
11:42am 11/11/11 Permalink
Trauma
Melbourne, Victoria
2034 posts
Hell yes!
11:54am 11/11/11 Permalink
carson
Gippsland, Victoria
1330 posts
Lol Perry is the worst. It would be mega funny to see him win the presedency. Or Bachmann. That Herman Cain is just as bad as Perry too. He keeps stumbling on his words and claiming he didn't do stuff he obviously did!

It's so sad to see anti-intellectualism running rampart in America. But, they vote them in so what can you expect?

Also, wouldn't getting rid of the Dept of Education be a bad bad thing?
12:00pm 11/11/11 Permalink
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
35035 posts
The American Idol-esque affair that is the Republic party primaries is just fucking incredible and goes a long way to explaining why that country is in the toilet.
12:10pm 11/11/11 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
546 posts
It's so sad to see anti-intellectualism running rampart in America.


I think the word is rampant.
01:14pm 11/11/11 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
6135 posts
Evidently anti-intellectualism is running rampart in Australia and on online forums, too.
01:21pm 11/11/11 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
8454 posts
01:24pm 11/11/11 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
7552 posts
Anti-Intellectualism ?
The Dumbocrats are the Intellectual Party ?
01:51pm 11/11/11 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
547 posts
That's offensive Faceman.

I prefer the term abortocrats
04:21pm 11/11/11 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
7555 posts
ppl on QGL are far too obsessed with God and The Right.
Politics is all about Consensus, you know, like Global Warming.
05:31pm 11/11/11 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
7559 posts
OK look even Democrats support God look:

The House of Representatives passed a bi-partisan resolution Tuesday night reaffirming “In God We Trust” as the official motto of the United States. The 396-9 vote came at the request of Rep. Randy Forbes (R-VA) – in part over President Obama’s refusal to correct remarks he made that misstated the motto as “E pluribus unum” instead of “In God We Trust.”

Lawmakers voting against “In God We Trust” include
Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY),
Rep. Gary Ackerman (D-NY),
Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich),
Rep. Judy Chu (D-CA),
Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-MO),
Rep. Mike Honda (D-CA),
Rep. Hank Johnson (D-GA),
Rep. Bobby Scott (D-VA), and
Rep. Pete Stark (D-CA).

Voting present were Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) and Rep. Melvin Watt (D-NC).


Looks like a few God hating Commies in the Democrats.

Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/congress/2011/11/01/see-which-congressmen-voted-against-god-we-trust#ixzz1dOEfJuXv

God Bless America
09:08pm 11/11/11 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
4822 posts
I don't believe you unless you can get google correlate to show a link.
09:43pm 11/11/11 Permalink
Sosuke
50 posts
RIck Perry and George Bush junior are all from a same basket. It's both funny and sad at the same time that he was 2nd in the poll to win the primary.
03:19pm 12/11/11 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
8456 posts
03:42pm 14/11/11 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
7597 posts
12:21am 18/11/11 Permalink
Trauma
Melbourne, Victoria
2115 posts


He's doing a great job of fucking his own run at office. The vid has a few hundred thousand dislikes already, add yours.

It's really odd that they allowed ratings for this vid, I noticed on his past vids that they disabled it, oh the irony (I'm sure it won't happen again).
06:46pm 09/12/11 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
11713 posts
loving that vid Trauma. It's getting so much hate around the traps - bloody great! Restores faith in humanity.
06:50pm 09/12/11 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
7802 posts
Hes right about Christmas
The Democrats want to end Chistmas the bastards.

Alexander The Great is possibly the greatest Soldier of all time and he was Gay. I dont understand the gay bashing thing with Republicans but lets be honest plenty of Dumbocrats are anti gay marriage too, sadly it depends on Votes rather than the Human Rights issue that it is.

Christian values made America the greatest Country the World has ever seen.
Unfortunately the nutcases distort parts of Christianity.
Just like the nutcases that distort Islam.

I truly think Perry is the sanest choice and he prays to God to help the Government, laugh you may but Texas is a booming State. There is a LOT of Energy money for Perry, I think he will still get the nod.

Herman Cain suspended his campaign.
He thanked Pokemon.
Now its the rediculously corrupt Gingrich leading the polls.

Heres Cains 9-9-9 Tax plan













07:48pm 09/12/11 Permalink
DM
Gold Coast, Queensland
3898 posts
Me, along with many other redditers flagged it for hate speech. Never used the report video button before.
07:55pm 09/12/11 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
4972 posts
Christian values made America the greatest Country the World has ever seen.

Uh, is this your first day on the Internet? America's Founding Fathers on christianity, and religions in general: http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html

"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it."
-John Adams.

"I have recently been examining all the known superstitions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstition (Christianity) one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology."
- Thomas Jefferson.

"In the affairs of the world, men are saved not by faith, but by the lack of it."
- Benjamin Franklin.

"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church. Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all."
- Thomas Paine

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Which values exactly? To me it seems that our best parts are very much of Greek heritage, older than Christianity itself.
08:18pm 09/12/11 Permalink
hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
9857 posts
08:51pm 09/12/11 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
7803 posts
Yet strangely they enshrined the right to Religion in the Constitution.
Its wasnt God that was the problem, it was those who wielded God.
“In God We Trust”


There is God or There is Communism.
Atheists miss that point when they are bashing Christians.


09:02pm 09/12/11 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
4974 posts
Yet strangely they enshrined the right to Religion in the Constitution.

They forbid the establishment of a national religion... And declared that the state cannot have a favourite religion and persecute others... They essentially said that religion was not an interest of the state.

There is God or There is Communism.
Atheists miss that point when they are bashing Christians.

I... what? This will blow you mind then. Hell, if Christians actually followed the teachings of Christ, they'd probably all be communists. The world's top capitalists are atheists in fact. The world's top philanthropists are also.



09:30pm 09/12/11 Permalink
Mantorok
Brisbane, Queensland
6256 posts
09:42pm 09/12/11 Permalink
Trauma
Melbourne, Victoria
2116 posts
Me, along with many other redditers flagged it for hate speech. Never used the report video button before.

Haha I did the same, would be awesome if it gets removed due to a shit load of reports.
10:14pm 09/12/11 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
7804 posts
11:41pm 09/12/11 Permalink
Mordecai
Victoria
1163 posts
Yet strangely they enshrined the right to Religion in the Constitution.
Its wasnt God that was the problem, it was those who wielded God.

“In God We Trust”


There is God or There is Communism.
Atheists miss that point when they are bashing Christians.

So democracy without god is communism? ... o.0

Thats a new one to me.
03:10am 10/12/11 Permalink
XandraX
Brisbane, Queensland
1091 posts
Politics frustrates me no end. I'm a left-leaning Christian...and I seem to be alone. No politicians represent me adequately.

- The major parties are basically identical and equally inept
- I like some of The Greens social policies (eg. care of refugees) but they go too far with other policies
- Family First are the Christian party, but I disagree with them on almost every issue!

The Christian groups spend all their time trying to enforce morality (which never works) and have completely dropped the ball on human rights.

These days I vote based on trivial matters like censorship (against it, contrary to the ACL, which seems to think they represent me).

The most depressing thing is hearing right-wing politicians spouting on about Christianity while exhibiting none of the qualities of Jesus. Somehow the conservatives have convinced 99% of Christians that right-wing = righteous. Anyone with half a brain should be able to see through it, but it seems brains are in short supply.
10:00am 10/12/11 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
7810 posts
Even Andrew Bolt is disowning Perry:

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/thats_desperate/

Is there any way to persuade Rick Perry to bow out before he - and Herman Cain - turn the Republican search for a candidate into a complete circus?


12:49pm 10/12/11 Permalink
DM
Gold Coast, Queensland
3903 posts
The "big debate" that donald trump is holding has only 2 people going, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum. The later of which has a record of saying the most mind bogglingly ignorant things such as gay marriage is a slippery slope to bestiality.

Even the other nutters running bowed out. All following Ron Paul I guess who said hell no, that's beneath the office of presidency.
01:13pm 10/12/11 Permalink
qmass
Queensland
10205 posts
santorum is such a fucking child, the response to his bullshit was hilarious: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_%22santorum%22_neologism
02:20pm 10/12/11 Permalink
DM
Gold Coast, Queensland
3906 posts
I love the 1st result you get when you google Santorum.

Santorum
spreadingsantorum.com/
Santorum 1. The frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex. 2. Senator Rick Santorum.
03:01pm 10/12/11 Permalink
qmass
Queensland
10207 posts
wiki link above your post explains how that came to be, one of the most hilarious examples of google bombing or whatever the hell its called.
04:13pm 10/12/11 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
7815 posts
wow Gingrich has gone overboard on support for Israel.
Hes called The Palistinians an "Invented people"
11:16am 11/12/11 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
11778 posts
10:42am 14/12/11 Permalink
DM
Gold Coast, Queensland
3963 posts
Turns out the music used in that guy's video was composed by a gay jewish man. And he has the same jacked as heath ledger from Brokeback.
10:46am 14/12/11 Permalink
Trauma
Melbourne, Victoria
2149 posts
04:28pm 20/12/11 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
7900 posts
12:12am 22/12/11 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
11885 posts
Haha Trauma - comedy gold!
12:24am 22/12/11 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
7923 posts
http://www.news.com.au/world/donald-trump-drops-republican-party-registration/story-e6frfkz0-1226229993371

BILLIONAIRE businessman Donald Trump has changed his voter registration in New York state from Republican to unaffiliated, fuelling rumours he will run for US presidency as an independent candidate next year.
06:12pm 24/12/11 Permalink
Superform
Netherlands
7140 posts
so wait.. you have to state who you support when you register?

wtf sort of shit system is that?

that cant be compulsory
09:07pm 24/12/11 Permalink
Trauma
Melbourne, Victoria
2202 posts
02:33am 22/01/12 Permalink
Mordecai
Victoria
1222 posts
Newt Grigrich - three times married, cheated on both of his previous wives while they were ill/dying. Yep a stand up guy that one.
02:56am 22/01/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
8141 posts
I thought Romney was unbeatable but Newt has turned it around by beating up on CNN. Forget Paul, its Newt Vs the Mormon from another planet.

The debates are fascinating stuff, we have nothing like it here in Australia.
perhaps we should.
03:24am 22/01/12 Permalink
Chakas
USA
3458 posts
so wait.. you have to state who you support when you register?

wtf sort of shit system is that?

that cant be compulsory

My slightly limited knowledge of this is that for the average person on the street it comes down to voting in the primaries. Some states have open, while some states have closed primaries. In an open primary anyone registered in that state is allowed to vote for the nominee. In a closed primary, only people registered for that party can turn up and select the candidate. Obviously they are still free to vote for whoever they want in the general election. And no, it's not compulsory as far as I'm aware, and relatively easy to switch affiliations.
03:45am 22/01/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
8144 posts
Watching the Politicians squirm on stage is pretty entertaining, i saw a bit of the 2nd last debate and i watched most of the CNN debate. The crowd get right behind some of the answers and they will boo if they dont like something. There are no dorothy dixers from the interviewers, they fire in tough questions and if they ignore one candidate the crowd will start yelling out that candidates name. Its almost like a Sport.
I would love to go to one of these debates.
01:09pm 22/01/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
8145 posts
South Carolina
Gingrich 40%
Romney 27%
Paul 13%

The savage mauling Gingrich gave to that CNN host has changed the whole Race.
Florida next in 9 days. Santorum will prolly drop out now.

01:41pm 22/01/12 Permalink
Trauma
Melbourne, Victoria
2203 posts
Newt Grigrich - three times married, cheated on both of his previous wives while they were ill/dying. Yep a stand up guy that one.



Interesting info there.
02:12pm 22/01/12 Permalink
DM
Gold Coast, Queensland
4095 posts
All of them are as corrupt and fucked in the head as each other, and yet the democrats never pick up any of this stuff and run with it. it's also amazing the ignorance of the people over there at those debates and the stupid shit they cheer for. Yay he won't talk about his cheating on his both his wives what a hero!

Then again if your going to a republican debate you are already a hardcore fan and would accept anything they say.
03:09pm 22/01/12 Permalink
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