Shouldn't look at sluts

also who the fuck here voted for krudd?

me!

I didn't vote for any of the currently elected fuckstains.

Spook should stick to choosing music, rather than choosing politicians.

Well I also heard last night she is also increasing power rates by approx 15% as well as rego around 10%.

I was all for introducing a higher tobacco tax to help get the budget back in the black but this just shits me.

That bitch just cost me an extra $2k a year.

I hated her before the election but now I just want to stab her.

Thank god i don't drink, smoke and i'm selling my car and moving up north to live on barracks.. :)

Mr Ed just phoned - FIRE SALE!

hahaah that's the picture I was looking for

i think you will find most states power costs are going up from july 1, i think nsw was in for a 20% increase.

Isn't this bitch on $250k+?

God damn, why would anyone elect this whore... she spends all your taxpayer loot on botox but still looks like a piece of roadkill

Fail.

The price of power is rising fast so that Nuclear Power will soon seem to be at parity in cost. Therefore convincing the public that Nuclear Power is a good idea.
Conspiracy Alert.

You don't need to add in conspiracy alert, its just assumed for all your posts.

faceman whats your deal?

are you married with kids?
have a girlfriend?
single weirdo living alone?
single weirdo living with mum still or what?

i feel sorry for your girlfriend/boyfriend/whatever that has to deal with your constant rambling of bullshit

zomg i don't have a mobile phone because the government are tracking me etc

Thats a bit personal !

He's clearly just trying to determine if you live alone in a unabomber style cabin.

she spends all your taxpayer loot on botox but still looks like a piece of roadkill

you can't polish a turd

i wasn't asking for your address and credit card details

it's obviously a sore point for him

yep, pollies only care about the quick fix and let to next person in power to deal with the problem.

every thing they sell off to private firms is going to cost a lot more to everyone who uses that service.

private firms only care about profit.

i am paying way more on my power bill since it fell into private hands.

once all these assets are sold off, then the state gov will be jacking up all taxes just to pay for the basic services and health.

deregulating banking was one of the most stupid things the gov. could have ever done, i never used to pay any bank fees before that and the banks just made a bit of profit, now we pay a fee for everything and the banks are making a 10 billion plus profit every 3 months... good one gov. i lub you.

I thought you could avoid bank fees these days pretty much if you worked the system? I think we only pay 10 bucks a month for the offset facility, that's it?

primal.. i assume u work ? if you dont then youre a deadshit. but if you do, you probably have something called superannuation. superannuation funds are not allowed to invest in stupid spec stocks, they invest in the top 200. a majority of what they invest in is banks. the banks making large profits actually benefits YOU and your super. would you want a major investment of yours losing money ?

secondly, this state govt budgeted on 15billion of revenue more then what is actual. they could have defaulted on their loans, ruining their credit rating, hence increasing any future costs for funding, or they can deal with it the only way they can. they can either raise taxes or sell assets. or they could just stop building the tunnel under the city, cancel the gateway bridge and scrap all of the new busways being built.

the reason you are all paying more for power now is because raising taxes gets everyone a bit shitty. to pay for all of the water infrastructure that has been built over the last 3 years, its got to come from somewhere. because people are stupid sheep, you can't just come out and say WE WILL INCREASE TAX TO PAY FOR IT, they dodge around the issue because peoples sensitivities cause them to vote out the party that raises taxes.

and thats why howards era is such a stain.. sure they cut taxes, but everything else went up. i doubt anyone is better off even with the higher average wages and lower taxes from his tenure. everything went up, wages were incidental.

fuck i just realised the world according to me makes so much fucking sense.

im awesome

i'd say the reason you pay more for power now has more to do with the gross underpricing of power (along with many other utilities like water) for a very, very long time.

real wages went up 14% under howard, under the last 13 years of labor they went up -1%.

shame howard isnt still in power then isnt it?

real wages went up 14% under howard, under the last 13 years of labor they went up -1%.

Jesus infi, your blind following realy makes you look dumb, theres this thing called context, howard has this thing called the mining boom, and kevin rudd had this thing called the global economic crisis.

All I know is because of howards work choices, I didnt get any redundancy payment when I was made redundant at the start of the year. If work choices hadnt come in I would have gotten 7 weeks redundancy, yeah its great for business, but screws the workders. Luckily I was in a new job within a week.

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pssst, infi isnt a worker, he prefers being able to totally screw over his employees

i don't know what you mean, my workers have the highest private sector rates in queensland for their industry. paying over award rates means you get good workers. john howard taught me that.

also redundnacy pay is a nonsense. all workers should have income protection policies if they have any sense.

i had one when i worked for the ATO as part of my super membership, as did I when working for Ed Qld as part of my Qsuper membership.

if you fail to plan, you plan to fail. tsk

Luckily I was in a new job within a week.

a flexible labour market is great for that type of thing. no dismissal laws etc make it a great place to put new workers on. alas no more... :(

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real wages went up 14% under howard, under the last 13 years of labor they went up -1%.

Jesus infi, your blind following realy makes you look dumb, theres this thing called context, howard has this thing called the mining boom, and kevin rudd had this thing called the global economic crisis.

yeah, and whitlam did more double that increase in less than 3 years. so there.

i been working for over 25 years, back when i started work peaple did not need banks unless you needed a big loan..

pay came as cash in pay slips and banks were no fees..

you did not have to tranfer your pay through them as you do now (with a fee).

you could leave any amount of money in your account and it will still be there with a bit extra on top years down the track.

why don't you invest 300 dollars in a savings account at the big banks and see how much is still sitting there after 1 year..

paul keating stuffed up all of that..

just for the record, i work for queensland gov., just because i work for them doesn't mean i have to agree with all the shit they do.

as for the power bills, since i have owned a houses for a long time, i have been paying all the power bills and can say to you that power has risen in price a lot after the greedy private sector has gotten hold of it.

if the gov. was keeping the price of power down by the act of owning the power stations and grid, then good on them..

wow, its only been 25 years and brissie has changed so much..

also, since the banks stuffed up at late, my super has lost money, is the banks going to pay me for that loss? nup, but if your late for repayments of loans or fees, then your will be charged and paying back the bank for its loss..

what a nice fair system the banks have..

quote war BEGIN

primal... youre a typical blinkers on howard supporter... listen to him moan... back when howard was in birds were singing, kids were painting picket fences for a bit of extra pocket money. ahhh the good old, pre labor days.

I'm sure you did very well out of the 'boom' of house prices primal, you did so well that no future generation is able to buy a house in a reasonable suburb for less then 10x their average annual wage... GREAT! (thanks howard... ill be right jack)

been working for over 25 years, back when i started work peaple did not need banks unless you needed a big loan.. pay came as cash in pay slips and banks were no fees..

and to pay a bill you had to line up at the bank. and to get money out of the bank you had to go to the bank and line up. guess what, the world moved on buddy. we fly overseas now too, we dont need to ride in a boat anymore.

you did not have to tranfer your pay through them as you do now (with a fee).

didn't you see the bit i wrote about your super being linked to bank performance... or can't you draw that line. the small fees you pay now end up back in your pocket when you retire. sorry that too 'big picture;... lets focus on the small incidental items - my bad

such as: I CAN'T BELIEVE I GOT CHARGED 5cents FOR SOY SAUCE AT THAT SUSHI PLACE WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO???

why don't you invest 300 dollars in a savings account at the big banks and see how much is still sitting there after 1 year.. paul keating stuffed up all of that..

if i had my current savings in the bank when paul keating was the boss(who is a visionary and monetary master btw) i'd be able to quit my job and live off the interest.

as for the power bills, since i have owned a houses for a long time, i have been paying all the power bills and can say to you that power has risen in price a lot after the greedy private sector has gotten hold of it. if the gov. was keeping the price of power down by the act of owning the power stations and grid, then good on them..

well, maybe as you know, maybe you don't, the government (howard) changed the definition on how CPI was measured. they cooked the books in essence to make it seem better then it is. today we are oranges, before howard changed it we were apples. you know when you're watching the news and they say 'cpi has increased 4% this year' inflation is stable etc bla bla bla.

didn't it seem strange that fuel went from $1 - $1.50 a litre, steak now costs $30kg at the supermarket, milk now costs $2 a litre and bread costs $3.50 a loaf. and theyre trying to tell you inflation was single digits ? lets not even talk about house prices and the repayments people NOW have to make compared to the bad bad old days of when keating was ruining this country.

wow, its only been 25 years and brissie has changed so much.. also, since the banks stuffed up at late, my super has lost money, is the banks going to pay me for that loss? nup, but if your late for repayments of loans or fees, then your will be charged and paying back the bank for its loss.. what a nice fair system the banks have..

the banks didnt stuff up, you did by not being diligent in action that you can choose how they invest your money. if you didn't see this bubble popping like, you can't blame the banks.

you reckon banks are a fair system ? their whole being is to create money out of nothing. thats where economic growth comes from. go look up fractional reserve banking. of course its not a 'fair' system the banks have going but it hasn't been 'fair' since the gold standard was removed in america (in recent history)

go edumicate yourself dude. you sound like my whinging old man bleating on about keating. he was in power a long time ago now man, let go.

http://business.theage.com.au/business/the-statistical-gymnastics-behind-the-cpi-force-the-question-whos-on-welfare-20081020-54uv.html?page=-1

one for you primal. edumication time.

howard cooks the books!

lol.. you missed the target..

i don't like john howard, never surpported him.. and hate all the pollies as well..

paul keating is the whinger..

and i gotten out of the banks a long time ago, i just don't like what they are doing to the commom joe atm.. with all there nasty fees and even nastier charges..

come to think of it the only loss i made out of the crash was my military super went down, my q super went ok...

nah i hit a bullseye.

where does your military super and q super invest.. which companies.

i'm guessing a bank or 6 at least

fuck there are a lot of annoying cunts on this forum.

cainer you're one of them.

fuck there are a lot of annoying cunts who whinge about annoying cunts on this forum.. **rollseyes**

I hardly think they could do a worse job that the current motorways, the gateway motorway is a joke, seen smoother dirt roads in the outback...

also.. i hate anna, if she had nuts i would be kicking them right now..

secondly, this state govt budgeted on 15billion of revenue more then what is actual. they could have defaulted on their loans, ruining their credit rating, hence increasing any future costs for funding, or they can deal with it the only way they can. they can either raise taxes or sell assets. or they could just stop building the tunnel under the city, cancel the gateway bridge and scrap all of the new busways being built.

Or she could just admit that she lied to get elected? that her planned budget was one based on whimsy and played the doldrums of typical labor supporters going "oh she's going to create jobs for me!" when in reality if the stupid biddy would just admit that she lied, won't be able to fund 50% of her election bull shit and started cutting that, we wouldn't have to worry about defaulting on loans?

For the record, we're looking at a reduced credit rating anyway, and not because we're defaulting on our loans, but because we keep going into debt because of poorly balanced budgets that never had a chance of going into surplus.

Running into the red is fine every now and then, but doing it 6 years in a row is where you get into trouble. And anna never had a plan to get us out of debt. She just keeps running up a bigger loan every budget, and then wonders why the banks wonder when we'll ever pay them back.

Pull your labor stick out of your ass cainer, you're just dribbling one sided skewed bullshit.

Also, i can't even remember whether the lib/nat promises left us on a better budget, but i know they weren't promising stupid election promises that had no plan behind them other than "100,000 new jobs!".

Oh and i wouldn't be rabbiting on too much about inflation and the labor love when we were all just thrown $900+ for no other reason than to "buy frivelous shit". And increased first home buyers grants to prop up a market that was (finally [i didn't like the original one either]) correcting it self.

Oh and i wouldn't be rabbiting on too much about inflation and the labor love when we were all just thrown $900+ for no other reason than to "buy frivelous shit".

apparently this saved australia from recession

if you think australia isn't in recession you're a fool. and free money had nothing to do with the most recent GDP figures. domestic spending was up by a pathetic 0.3% - pretty terrible for the amount of money rudd and swan have thrown at thi situation. they have absolutely no idea.

i thought a recession was two or more quarters of negative gdp?

last quarter was positive, even if it was only a small amount;

seems lots of people think the the handouts did help

the reason you are all paying more for power now is because raising taxes gets everyone a bit shitty. to pay for all of the water infrastructure that has been built over the last 3 years, its got to come from somewhere. because people are stupid sheep, you can't just come out and say WE WILL INCREASE TAX TO PAY FOR IT, they dodge around the issue because peoples sensitivities cause them to vote out the party that raises taxes.

Yeah and selling off assets that have actual value to pay off the debt is so much better...... I'd rather pay more rate and taxes for the next 5 years than her selling off all of our important infrastructures, as if we're not in enough shit as it is. Thanks for nothing (literally now) Anna and Labor. I really want to feel good about saying told you so, only I'm also stuck in the same place as all you damn ALP lovers.....

The price of power is rising fast so that Nuclear Power will soon seem to be at parity in cost. Therefore convincing the public that Nuclear Power is a good idea.

The Nuclear Power lifecycle is alredy cheaper than current power, and vastly cheaper than renewables currently are. The only reason why it doesn't look like it is because Nuclear Power is required to factor in their entire lifecycle, but Coal/Renewable aren't. Also, current Nuclear Power emmits less radiation than an average coal plant due to coal plants spewing up radioactive elements out of their stacks. (Thorum, and Uranium mostly).

as for the power bills, since i have owned a houses for a long time, i have been paying all the power bills and can say to you that power has risen in price a lot after the greedy private sector has gotten hold of it.

By how much? If we assume an average of 3.5% inflation, then we'd expecting a halving time of 20 years. That is, if the average power bill in Queensland is currently $400 a quarter, then it would be equivialnt of $200 a quarter 20 years ago due to inflation. Also, since 84-89, chances are we use more power through airconditioning, computers, large screen tvs, dryers, blah blah blah.

also, since the banks stuffed up at late, my super has lost money, is the banks going to pay me for that loss? nup, but if your late for repayments of loans or fees, then your will be charged and paying back the bank for its loss..

Was your super in a bank account, or was it invested in some sort of non-secured investment portfolio?

didn't it seem strange that fuel went from $1 - $1.50 a litre, steak now costs $30kg at the supermarket, milk now costs $2 a litre and bread costs $3.50 a loaf. and theyre trying to tell you inflation was single digits ? lets not even talk about house prices and the repayments people NOW have to make compared to the bad bad old days of when keating was ruining this country.

I'm not disagreeing with you that Howard cooked the books. I'm just saying don't underestimate single digit inflation. @3.5% inflation over 20 years:

$1.50 p/l petrol should have been $0.75 (it wasn't it was about $0.6p/l)

$30/kg steak should have been $15/kg Although, you guys should move out of country bumpkin town, because steak is about 22/kg in Sydney)

$2/l for milk would have been $1p/l

$3.50 for bread should have been $1.75. (Although, I'll admit I'm surprised at the price of bread).

whats going on typo, 1/2 the quotes are from that dimwit primal and the last one from me. you can't have a quote war with people who are already quote warring.

Yeah and selling off assets that have actual value to pay off the debt is so much better...... I'd rather pay more rate and taxes for the next 5 years than her selling off all of our important infrastructures, as if we're not in enough shit as it is. Thanks for nothing (literally now) Anna and Labor. I really want to feel good about saying told you so, only I'm also stuck in the same place as all you damn ALP lovers.....

This is actually a very not labor move. But let me break it down to you. Government owned infrastructure is a liability. Government run companies are inherently inefficient, lack proper oversight and are accountable to a bureaucracy which has its own agendas.

Let me lay it out why there is a philosophy to privatize. We'll use Qantas as an example. During the government owned day, Qantas did not ever turn a profit. 1 - 2 million dollar operating profit MAX in a regulated, monopolistic environment. The government sold Qantas, got a few billion in the process, now Qantas is a behemoth of an airline with over 200 aircraft, 35000 employees which created indirect employment for well over 100,000, which also pays the government income tax of, last financial year, at least 300 million.

Its the gift that just keeps giving, a privatized company that makes profits. Profits = Tax. Simple as that.

There has to be regulatory oversight to prevent anti trust type behaviour, like how ansett and qantas both conspired to crush compass airlines, if anyone can remember that. But that is not unique to aviation, its for everything.

Now the electricity generation for 1 is a huge money eater. Sell it off, they make profits, they pay tax, government gets tax income. Its exactly the same at the end of the day if they keep the power station but incrase taxes. Bottom line is;

The money has to come from somewhere (unless of course you're america or zimbabwe and you just print $ to buy your own debt <-- good idea no?)

What doesn't make sense about that ?

What doesn't make sense about that ?

but cainer you awesome legend you, dem darn injuns come dun took our jerbs they did yesum . dem darn labor bligh darn sold MY power station dem durn did now i curnt afford to get a $500,000 mortgage durn laber!@#