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Game of Thrones Season 2
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
18561 posts
Less than a week till it starts! The other Game of Thrones thread from Season 1 has become rather large, so I figured we'd be better off with a new one for Season 2.

Also gives me an excuse to post this new Behind the Scenes featurette thingy that recaps Season 1 and gives a look into where Season 2 is heading.

12:04pm 26/03/12 Permalink
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12:04pm 26/03/12 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
12824 posts
I can't wait to hate that guy all over again
12:09pm 26/03/12 Permalink
Ha
Brisbane, Queensland
208 posts
I remember thinking that April would never come.
12:22pm 26/03/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
983 posts
So good, I've noticed that the first half of book 3 is in season 2 as well, I've been watching all the teaser videos including the 22minute documentary on S1..

Hellz Yeah
12:28pm 26/03/12 Permalink
Kiminoth
Perth, Western Australia
44 posts
So unbelievably keen. Just finished watching season 1 for the second time.
12:32pm 26/03/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18562 posts
So good, I've noticed that the first half of book 3 is in season 2 as well


Not 100% sure, but I seem to recall them saying that the seasons of the show wont necessarily line up exactly with the order stuff happens in in the books, mostly cos they want all the main actors/characters to be present in each season, like they don't want to make a season which doesn't have hardly any Jamie Lannister in it for example. It might work in a book, but not so much in a show, so they're going to use bits from books 2 and 3 for this season (and I'd assume future seasons will work a similar way).

But yeah, there seems to be a lot more Theon Greyjoy stuff in this season as well, and they're introducing Balon Greyjoy and the Damphair as well by the looks of it, and that didn't happen in book 2 either
12:34pm 26/03/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4576 posts
The first parts of book 3 overlap chronologically with book 2 anyway so it makes sense.
12:43pm 26/03/12 Permalink
Taipan
USA
3666 posts
Picked up the season 1 bluray set on the day of release for 30 bucks and loved it. It was a bit of a b**** waiting almost an entire year for it though amd sadly I can see myself doing the same thing for season 2.
12:51pm 26/03/12 Permalink
gamer
2349 posts
That video was a really nice re-cap. Cheers!
12:54pm 26/03/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18564 posts
Is there any good extras on the blurays? Was thinking about getting them myself. Is there extra scenes?
12:55pm 26/03/12 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
798 posts
f*****g W000000000t!

Khel can you post that massive 'who's who' image you kakked out last year into this thread? (coz it was essential in describing the show to others I found :D)

Also, I can't wait to see what is to come with the Lannister Men... Tywin and Tyrion mostly!!

The casting of this show is f*****g EPIC!

EDIT: cool, I wonder what Natalie Dormer will bring to the show, she was f*****g ruthless as Anne Boleyn in 'The Tudors'
01:04pm 26/03/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18565 posts
01:13pm 26/03/12 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
6016 posts
Still reading through the books first, I feel like if I watch the TV series I'll be jipped. I read the Harry Potter books and was happy I did when watching the movies, so hopefully it's the same.
01:18pm 26/03/12 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
799 posts
That's the one Khel!

Cheers!

On another interesting note, the guy who plays 'The Mountain' (Ser Gregor Clegane) is an Aussie actor who's built like a f*****g truck! (was an epic scene when he was felled Jousting)
01:23pm 26/03/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18566 posts
Heh, just saw this while I was reading some Game of Thrones related stuff, wont really make sense unless you've read all the books but I found it amusing

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lld54fSHWa1qg5qx7o1_500.jpg
01:36pm 26/03/12 Permalink
Taipan
USA
3667 posts
Khel there were no extra scenes on the bluray. I actually saw an interview a week or two ago where they made a point of mentioning why there were no extra scenes on the Bluray. The reason being that they actually used everything they shot aparently.

There is actually a fairly large list of extras and even without them I'd still consider the bluray worth buying. Some of the extras are.

The complete guide to Westeros
An interactive guide to the noble houses and lands in season 1 plus 24 exclusive histories of the seven kingdoms as told by the characters themselves.

Character Profiles
Profiles of 15 major characters as described by the actors who play them.

Those are just two examples of extras I just copied word for word from the little book that comes with the set. Personally I think you'd like the bluray mate.
01:56pm 26/03/12 Permalink
Ozzy
161 posts
More of this please...

07:32pm 26/03/12 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
765 posts
Heh, just saw this while I was reading some Game of Thrones related stuff, wont really make sense unless you've read all the books but I found it amusing


haha awesome.

I can't believe how much s*** goes on in the other books. Will be interesting to see the TV adaption in the next few series.
07:44pm 26/03/12 Permalink
Superform
Netherlands
7323 posts
cant wait.. i'm about 1/2 way through the latest book.. it was great watching the show first since there is so many chars to imagine in your head.. having the series helped

and the casting of the series is top notch
08:52pm 26/03/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4578 posts
More of this please...


I think you'll enjoy what Melisandre and Joffrey get up to this season... :D
08:53pm 26/03/12 Permalink
WetWired
Brisbane, Queensland
5975 posts
Blonde dragon chick is the so much hotter with dark hair.
09:39pm 26/03/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18569 posts
I think the stuff I'm looking forward to the most is the Jamie Lannister bits, like his duel with Brienne, and all the related stuff which I wont go into for fear of spoilers.

Jamie, Tyrion and Jon Snow are the best characters though imo.
09:45pm 26/03/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5609 posts
Please spoiler tag spoiler things, bff khel.
09:45pm 26/03/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18570 posts
Yeah, I was going to say more, and spoiler tag it, but I figured it'd just be safer if I didn't say anything, cos mousing over spoiler tags can be too much of a temptation :P

Should be a good season though, looking forward to seeing Roose Bolton as well, kinda sucked that he wasn't in the first season
09:49pm 26/03/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1008 posts
Not long to go, what time does it air in the US?
08:11am 01/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14800 posts
just finished watching the blurays last night. looking forward to the new ep tomorrow.


Not long to go, what time does it air in the US?


9pm their time. so will probably be available around midday for us.
09:42am 01/04/12 Permalink
Tanaka Khan
Brisbane, Queensland
5240 posts
One thing that's had me thinking...In the first episode they find the dire wolf pups, and Jon Snow stops them from being killed by saying there are 5 pups, one for each of the Stark children. He says that he isn't a Stark so he doesn't get one but finds the runt of the litter. Bran, Robb, Arya and Sansa are the 4 Stark children so who gets the fifth pup? (Jon Snow getting the 6th).
12:41pm 01/04/12 Permalink
do0b
Brisbane, Queensland
4243 posts
isn't there another boy around bran's age ?
12:45pm 01/04/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1009 posts
One thing that's had me thinking...In the first episode they find the dire wolf pups, and Jon Snow stops them from being killed by saying there are 5 pups, one for each of the Stark children. He says that he isn't a Stark so he doesn't get one but finds the runt of the litter. Bran, Robb, Arya and Sansa are the 4 Stark children so who gets the fifth pup? (Jon Snow getting the 6th).

Rickon, Bran, Arya, Sansa, Rob and Jon

You forgot Rickon who named his Wolf ShaggyDog.
12:58pm 01/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4596 posts
Yeah Rickon is the youngest by a year or two. He stays with Bran at Winterfell when everyone else packs up and heads south so he doesn't get much screen time.
01:23pm 01/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18642 posts
Yeah, theres Rickon, hes the youngest. I think from memory in the books Rickon is meant to be like 5 or 6, and Bran is about 10 I think.

He was barely in the first season though, hes mentioned by name a couple of times though, hes briefly visible in the first episode when the king visits Winterfell, and hes in the scene later in the series where Bran is down in the crypts under Winterfell and Rickon's direwolf jumps out at them.
01:27pm 01/04/12 Permalink
Tanaka Khan
Brisbane, Queensland
5241 posts
Ah thanks guys. I couldn't find him in the group pictures and it was doing my head in trying to think who it was.
02:40pm 01/04/12 Permalink
HerbalLizard
Brisbane, Queensland
5472 posts
Just started reading clash of kings. Really looking forward to this is it monday night it airs in the us
04:02pm 01/04/12 Permalink
Pirroh
Melbourne, Victoria
663 posts
First episode has hit the torrents.
12:13pm 02/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14814 posts
i watched the a few of the bonus features on the season 1 bluray last night. at the end of the one about how they made the intro i pretty sure they showed part of the intro for season 2. instead of the camera going from kings landing over the sea to the dothraki land, it flew across to some city.
12:20pm 02/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5643 posts
i watched the a few of the bonus features on the season 1 bluray last night. at the end of the one about how they made the intro i pretty sure they showed part of the intro for season 2. instead of the camera going from kings landing over the sea to the dothraki land, it flew across to some city.

It did that in the very first episode, Pentos.
12:23pm 02/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14815 posts
oh really? i thought every ep showed the dothraki tent city.
12:25pm 02/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5644 posts
oh really? i thought every ep showed the dothraki tent city.

Yeah I think they did after the first, but the exiled dudes (well, gal) started out in Pentos, I know this from obsessive rewatching skills.
12:37pm 02/04/12 Permalink
fade
Brisbane, Queensland
7383 posts
pre-ejac for s2.
01:00pm 02/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18653 posts
Yeah, the titles do change in some episodes and show different places, like it showed the Vale when they were in the Vale, and I think sometimes with the dothraki stuff it showed the Dothraki grass sea instead of Vaes Dothrak? Not entirely sure on that, but yeah, it did change.
01:22pm 02/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5646 posts
Somebody spoiled a good deal of the next few books during a bbq the other day, so I just remembered that I'm going to be cranky and unhappy about this show now.
01:25pm 02/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4603 posts
Spoiler:
...are we up to the part where Oobedoob Scoobi-Doobi Benubi asks Joffrey for his giggle back?
01:31pm 02/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2554 posts
How far have you read dazhel? ....

coz you're a total c*** if you spoiled stuff from book 5 in a thread called " GoT Season 2". Spoiler tag or not.

I'm 50% through book 5 and I think you just f***ed me!
01:53pm 02/04/12 Permalink
Creepy
USA
1902 posts
I'd be careful obtaining this show via the interwebs. Something tells me that the fever-pitch anticipation will have the Internet cops working overtime. HBO get rather pissy with the torrenting at the best of times.
01:58pm 02/04/12 Permalink
Crakaveli
USA
6061 posts
lol torrents
02:01pm 02/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18654 posts
So does this episode cover the bit where Spoiler:
Arya gets killed?
02:08pm 02/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14816 posts
Spoiler:
you guys are so funny with all your spoilers
02:50pm 02/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4604 posts
I'm 50% through book 5 and I think you just f***ed me!


Spoiler:
That last spoiler wasn't a real spoiler, but you're fair in the assessment that I was being a c*** so I've changed it.
03:35pm 02/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18655 posts
Spoiler:
The cripple was really Kaiser Soze
04:26pm 02/04/12 Permalink
Boxhead
Brisbane, Queensland
12314 posts
I agreed to watch this with friends this weekend over a 'feast' of sorts.. But I'm not sure I'm going to be able to hold out.. Stupid thing is sitting there, looking at me.. Taunting me :)
04:40pm 02/04/12 Permalink
fade
Brisbane, Queensland
7384 posts
I agreed to watch this with friends this weekend over a 'feast' of sorts.. But I'm not sure I'm going to be able to hold out.. Stupid thing is sitting there, looking at me.. Taunting me :)

f*** friends.
05:09pm 02/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18656 posts
Watch it twice
05:14pm 02/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5647 posts
f*** friends.

At least when watching good tv shows, people don't shut up, myself included.
05:25pm 02/04/12 Permalink
Taipan
USA
3686 posts
It was my understanding that this season wasn't due to air in Australia until the 10th of this month. If thats the case how is it so many of you are clearly watching it?

05:42pm 02/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2555 posts
We're streaming it telepathically from friends in the US, we need more hosts, want to help?
05:50pm 02/04/12 Permalink
Lithium
Rockhampton, Queensland
249 posts
It was my understanding that this season wasn't due to air in Australia until the 10th of this month. If thats the case how is it so many of you are clearly watching it?


Is this a trick question?

Can't wait to watch it tomorrow when I get some internets! I've avoided reading the books in favour of watching this series
06:28pm 02/04/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1012 posts
I got my Rum, I got my Doritos going to watch S1E10 then straight into S2E1 HOLY S*** I CAN"T WAIT, Just finished reading Book 3 Part 1 too!
06:31pm 02/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18658 posts
F*** waiting till the 10th, it makes me laugh when they advertise it on tv here and claim its "fast tracked from the US". Yeah, I don't consider 9 days later particularly "fast".
06:33pm 02/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5648 posts
F*** waiting till the 10th, it makes me laugh when they advertise it on tv here and claim its "fast tracked from the US". Yeah, I don't consider 9 days later particularly "fast".

It's better than the years that it used to be (as far as I knew) back in the day, though I haven't had a tv for like... 9 years. Cheap megabytes4lyfe.
06:53pm 02/04/12 Permalink
trillion
Brisbane, Queensland
2666 posts
when the Sentinels come sniffing, they are going to hull breach Khel the hardest.
09:31pm 02/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18663 posts
Many things are better than they used to be, but thats still no excuse for it to take 9 days to get here, its not like they're shipping it over on a boat or something
10:33pm 02/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5651 posts
Actually yeah I just remembered that I was talking to somebody about Game of Thrones being almost back at the movies the other day, when a trailer for season 2 came up before the movie, which was a bit mindblowing. I was both impressed that it was near to airing here too, but scoffing at such a long extra waiting time (9 days, I mean reary).
10:37pm 02/04/12 Permalink
d0mino
Melbourne, Victoria
5242 posts
Didn't enjoy that episode very much. Had NO IDEA what the deal was with the flaming sword scene.
08:12am 03/04/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1015 posts
You read the books d0mino?
08:33am 03/04/12 Permalink
kappa
Brisbane, Queensland
1874 posts
Had NO IDEA what the deal was with the flaming sword scene.

Lol same here. I haven't read the books.
08:42am 03/04/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6750 posts
i haven't read the books yet but i figured the flaming sword scene was about the old vs new gods in the south?

epic episode imo. it's awesome to see the lannisters crumbling. (except tyrion of course, he's a legend) :D
08:42am 03/04/12 Permalink
Reverend Evil
Wynnum, Queensland
20235 posts
I finished watching the first season on Sunday and thought it was pretty awesome. A bit boring in some parts but overall quite good. I found the most interesting parts were with Khal and Daenerys. I was pretty pissed off when Khal died though. Also Tyrion was another awesome character. Prolly the best one in the whole show so far.
09:02am 03/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4612 posts
i haven't read the books yet but i figured the flaming sword scene was about the old vs new gods in the south?


Close, according to the books the old gods and the new gods (Old Gods of the Forest & Faith of the Seven respectively) are western religions that have been around so long that they've both entwined together in culture over time. The former is slowly fading, while the latter is flourishing.

The red chick is a priestess of the Lord of Light which is an eastern religion. She has Stannis' ear so she's recently converted him from the seven and because he's the king everyone else at Dragonstone is forced to come along for the ride.
09:07am 03/04/12 Permalink
funky
Brisbane, Queensland
1607 posts
Flaming sword is 'lightbringer' a fabled sword from the mythology of the red god R'hllor, and is meant to be wielded by a prophesised reborn hero, 'Azor Ahai' (melisandre, the red priestess/sorceress thinks that this is Stannis Baratheon).

They sacrificed those wooden idols of 'the seven' which are the main gods of the southern regions of westeros to R'hllor, which is why that old bloke was so upset and tried to poison melisandre. The north (starks et al) still worship the old gods and R'hllor is basically a foreign god to Westeros.


09:40am 03/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14822 posts
09:43am 03/04/12 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
12228 posts
I am so excited that this season I am one of those c**** who fully understands what's going on!
09:46am 03/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18667 posts
Flaming sword is 'lightbringer' a fabled sword from the mythology of the red god R'hllor, and is meant to be wielded by a prophesised reborn hero, 'Azor Ahai' (melisandre, the red priestess/sorceress thinks that this is Stannis Baratheon).


Yeah, except its faked. Essentially theres this prophecy about a prophesised hero wielding a flaming sword and pulling it from the fire and all that, so they staged that whole spectacle and faked a flaming sword so that Stannis could be seen to be this prophesised hero. They're engineering prophecy to suit their needs pretty much. Theres hints throughout the book that Stannis doesn't necessarily believe in all of it, but he'll use it to give him an edge and make people follow him.

I thought it was a good episode, but yeah the whole bit on Dragonstone was a bit abrupt and confusing I guess for people who hadn't read the books. I watched it with my brother, and he hasn't read the books, and I had to explain that part to him cos he was like "What the f***? Where are we now? Who's that?"
10:24am 03/04/12 Permalink
Reverend Evil
Wynnum, Queensland
20237 posts
What was the deal with the dragons at the end of the season? I didn't think the show was fantasy based. Does that chicky babe end up using them to attack people?
10:33am 03/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5653 posts
I didn't think the show was fantasy based.

The very first scene in the show is about 3 fantasy sword-dudes fighting fantasy snow zombies with blue eyes in the north of a fantasy world.. :P

The flaming sword thing seemed fairly straight forward to me without having read the book, though the actress who plays the priestess person thing seems a bit awkward.
11:06am 03/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18668 posts
The show is fantasy based, it just doesn't over-use the fantasy themes. So there is some magic that shows up here and there throughout the series, but its rare, and its pretty damn dark and f***ed up when it does make a showing. Same with the dragons, the story goes to some dark and disturbing places with those too.

And yeah, the white walkers and other stuff beyond the wall comes back into the story as well, if not this season, then definitely next.

I thought it was a pretty awesome first episode, most of the new characters fit my mental image of them perfectly. The guy they've got to play Davos looks pretty good even though he didn't get to do much in that episode, and Stannis was even better than I had expected.

Only real disappointment for me was Craster wasn't nasty and dirty enough, I had imagined him to be much nastier (Craster is the wildling dude the nights watch are staying with, who maries his daughters).
11:17am 03/04/12 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
12229 posts
The Craster thing is onomatopoeic IMO; I don't think he is actually described as lots more feral than he is shown, but Craster sounds like Cruster :)
11:23am 03/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4614 posts
Haha, I've always imagined Craster as a wildling version of Father Jack Hackett from the show Father Ted.
DRINK! FECK! GIRLS!
11:52am 03/04/12 Permalink
Reverend Evil
Wynnum, Queensland
20239 posts
The very first scene in the show is about 3 fantasy sword-dudes fighting fantasy snow zombies with blue eyes in the north of a fantasy world.. :P

Yeah. Although I figured that was maybe for effect seeing as there wasn't anything else like that thru out the season. Unless I missed something. I don't mind though. I'd be happy to see dragons and zombies all the way thru the show.

8-)
12:12pm 03/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14826 posts
woah ep 2 is already out.
12:48pm 03/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18672 posts
Yeah. Although I figured that was maybe for effect seeing as there wasn't anything else like that thru out the season. Unless I missed something. I don't mind though. I'd be happy to see dragons and zombies all the way thru the show.


There was those bodies that the Night's Watch brought back, that came to life and tried to kill the lord commander and Jon Snow, and there was the disturbing f***ed up s*** the witch did at the end of Season 1 to bring Khal Drogo back to life. It doesn't really get much more mystical than that, theres some more of those zombie things, and the white walkers (which you see briefly at the start of season 1, and they're making the zombie things), and some more dark f***ed up magic that involves blood and nasty stuff, but yeah, it doesn't become like all Dungeons and Dragons, Swords and Sorcery kind of deal
12:53pm 03/04/12 Permalink
Reverend Evil
Wynnum, Queensland
20241 posts
Awesome. Although now we'll prolly have to wait two weeks for ep 3.

Hehe
12:54pm 03/04/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1017 posts
woah ep 2 is already out.


Where?
01:15pm 03/04/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6754 posts
surely this webrip of s02e02 is a fake?
dling it anyway to check :p
01:39pm 03/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18673 posts
Its probably real, they did the same thing for one of the episodes in season 1. People with a special premium HBO subscription get to see the episode online a week before it comes out.
01:49pm 03/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5654 posts
I'll um have a look at it I guess since it's coming as an extra in this linux distro that I'm getting. This is going to be just like Korra, having to wait extra long for getting in early.

Khel, I don't suppose that you could extend your sig to include ", but don't think that it's a good thing." lest it give people the wrong impression? Also maybe a fetlife account link. xoxo
02:19pm 03/04/12 Permalink
Habib
Brisbane, Queensland
356 posts
It's real.
02:26pm 03/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5655 posts
Quality is not ideal.
02:37pm 03/04/12 Permalink
Creepy
USA
1904 posts
Looks like the advanced copy for HBO Go subscribers in the UK, has now become an advanced copy for the entire world. Well played.
02:44pm 03/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18674 posts
Heh, I'll change my sig, I forgot I had it set actually
02:48pm 03/04/12 Permalink
dranged
Melbourne, Victoria
1992 posts
Awesome! Good News Everybody!
02:54pm 03/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5656 posts
<3

New episode is still entirely great, despite the lower quality. At least one of the perks of being a failing self employed person is that game of thrones happens whenever you damn well please. :P

edit: There's no subtitles during extensive speaking of dothraki, this is the worst thing that's ever happened to me.
02:55pm 03/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4616 posts
Heh, a true fan would have extrapolated the whole Dothraki language and be three quarters of the way through composing Shakespeare with it by now.

Let me be an interpreter though:
Khaleesi: "Oh no, we're so far into the desert what ever shall we do!?"
Mormont: "Keep going forward"
Rakharo: "Keep going forward"
Spoiler:

trudge... trudge...trudge
...oh look, a city!

03:15pm 03/04/12 Permalink
Reverend Evil
Wynnum, Queensland
20247 posts
Quality is not ideal

I agree with the Nerfmeister general. Quality is rather dodgy compared to smaller files. Gonna wait until the proper ep is released.
03:18pm 03/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18675 posts
How much Dothraki is there? Does the lack of subtitles greatly affect the understanding of whats going on?
03:37pm 03/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5657 posts
Just one scene, it's about a minute long but the situation mostly speaks for itself.
03:49pm 03/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18686 posts
Holy s***, that was an awesome episode, Saladhor Saan is pretty great. I got the 720p 1.5gig version and the quality was fine, dunno what people are b****ing about, sure its not 1080p bluray quality, but it was still great quality. I'd say watch it now, and then watch it again if you want when it comes out next monday, its too good to wait :P

And yeah, the dothraki bit was tiny, no subtitles didn't matter at all
08:33pm 03/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5660 posts
Ah, I didn't see a higher quality version, my bad.

I figured that Kaleesi couldn't have said anything toooo important during those subtitles, probably just promises to exterminate and stuff.
08:49pm 03/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18687 posts
Yeah I figured she would just be saying something like "Don't worry, we'll f*** up whoever did this"
09:07pm 03/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14827 posts
i'm just gonna wait and watch it next week. prefer to wait 1 week for GOT fix instead of 2.
09:08pm 03/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5662 posts
Seen this around a few times, finally decided that I like it, so... blah, embed:

12:57am 04/04/12 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
586 posts
Just bought today.
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/5509/gameofthronesy.jpg

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I will re-watch season 1 and then watch season 2.
12:36pm 04/04/12 Permalink
Nimajneb
Gold Coast, Queensland
3 posts
Bought the Limited Edition BD at JB hi-fi for the same price :-)
07:35pm 04/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14835 posts
same
07:55pm 04/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18703 posts
They really did go ahead with calling Theon's sister Yara :(

Just watched the episode again cos my brother hadn't seen it, and it just sounds wrong.
09:29pm 04/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14838 posts
what's her name supposed to be?
09:41pm 04/04/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7724 posts
Wtf? That's a bizarre change. Her name is supposed to be Asha.
10:01pm 04/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14839 posts
looks like they changed it so people didn't confuse her with osha.
10:03pm 04/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18704 posts
Its stupid though, cos those characters are pretty much never in the same place the same time or being referred to by name by the same people, so it would be very hard to confuse them. And I don't think they've even referred to Osha by name in the series so far, so why not change her name and leave Asha (who is a much more major character, and is going to be showing up a lot more) the same.
10:59pm 04/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5666 posts
The great thing about not having read the books, is that these issues seem so shrug-worthy. :P (If I'd read them, I'd probably be pissed).
11:03pm 04/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4624 posts
I don't get why Asha and Osha is somehow deemed too confusing but Arya and Yara is fine.

Also, no s***, she's something like the 70th character in line to be introduced where there'd be a regular tv lineup of less than a dozen... I dare say most people that haven't read the books are having difficulty following characters names and are purely remembering who's who by faces at this point.
12:34am 05/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5667 posts
Yeah, visually you can tell a story with character's by appearance rather than constantly explaining who is doing what using names, so I haven't picked up a fair few names. I know a fair few though, off the top of my head - Tyrion, Bron, Jon, Big & Little Bear, Aria, Ned, Benjin, Rob, Bran, Cercie, LittleFinger, Theon Greyjoy, Daenerys, Jamie, Tywin, The Hound, and King McA****** (which I presume is his name).
12:52am 05/04/12 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
587 posts
I did not know there was a limited edition :( now I feel cheated. Oh well, the quality looks crystal clear on my PC when playing it.
06:36am 05/04/12 Permalink
Zoidberg
Brisbane, Queensland
67 posts
The limited Edition has an extra disc with a 20 min (approx) vid on the CGI and a booklet full of glossy stills from the show. So your not really missing out on much.
07:44am 05/04/12 Permalink
Crakaveli
USA
6063 posts
so uh.. did he just finger bang his sister? LOL
09:10am 05/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4625 posts
so uh.. did he just finger bang his sister? LOL


Affirmative.
Unless they saw it happen it wouldn't be obvious to anybody though, Greyjoy fingers always smell of fish.
09:36am 05/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18705 posts
I loved the scene with Littlefinger in that episode though, the whole "I really hate a bad investment" monologue he gave, so awesome.
09:55am 05/04/12 Permalink
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10:48pm 05/04/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1452 posts

They're defo getting more liberal with the books!

Spoiler:
Stannis banging Melisandre on the war room table!


Seems like the acting or editing is a bit worse, maybe its because I've read all the books now. I do like how everythings happening a lot faster.



06:58am 06/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18718 posts
Yeah, I noticed that too, in the books that was certainly implied but it was never so in your face as it was in the series, same as Renly's gay exploits with Loras Tyrell.

I don't mind too much though, it probably would be harder to convey some of the subtleties the book does just due to it being in a different medium, but you also only ever see stuff in the book that the PoV characters see, and at that point, Stannis or Melisandre weren't PoV characters, only Davos, so you only got to see and hear what Davos saw and heard and thought. Gives them a bit more freedom with the tv series I spose to show scenes that just couldn't have been done in the book at all.

It does feel like it moves really fast though, like it felt like the bit with Spoiler:
Janos Slynt being sent to the wall
happened much later in the books, but maybe thats just cos it took me a lot longer to read the books than it does to watch it on tv. All round though, not a bad thing, means we get to the awesome bits quicker :)

Theres nothing I can think of off the top of my head thats important that they've left out, I mean they even had Ser Dontos being drunk when he was supposed to fight and being made the fool, I didn't even remember that bit, and its something I'm sure they could have written out and worked around if they wanted to, but they seem pretty committed to staying true to the books.
12:01pm 06/04/12 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
592 posts
Finished re-watching season 1, It was great to watch again and just finished watching S02E01. I want more, I could watch this all day.
01:57pm 06/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4630 posts
I love what they've done with the Chamber of the Painted Table, the room itself is a bit smaller than I'd imagined it but the table itself so much more awesome.

It does feel like it moves really fast though, like it felt like the bit with ... happened much later in the books

Yeah It does move pretty fast, but that happens early on - ACoK chapter 8. Spoiler:
Tyrion arrives at the capital as Hand of the King and he's put all the pieces of the play for the throne together - Joffrey killed Ned Stark, Varys dismissed Barristan Selmy & Baelish bought Slynt's loyalty. He tells Cersei that he knows she's f*****g Jaime and then he stops just short of outright accusing her of killing John Arryn.
03:17pm 06/04/12 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
7860 posts
I'm a bit late to the party with only just watching Ep1 tonight (had an awesome illness all week so was bedridden) and it didn't leave an "OMG" impression on me. I thought the scenes were quite rushed (all of them, front introducing Dontos to the sword s*** on the beach to Craster) and the acting seemed a bit off from some of the new key players.

I thought the casting for Craster and Stannis was way out of whack from what I pictured in my head .. Craster should be like Filch from Harry Potter and Stannis to be more Robert like but without the gut and a massive unit of strength.
10:02pm 07/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14857 posts
Craster should be like Filch


the guy that played filch is walder frey in game of thrones.
10:16pm 07/04/12 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
7861 posts
Dang it is too.. totally forgot about it. Well back to Father Jack it is.
10:43pm 07/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18737 posts
Stannis is pretty much exactly how I imagined him in my head, I actually really like how they've cast him. But yeah, I agree about Craster.

Davos is pretty different to how I imagined him, but it doesn't worry me, cos the guy they've got playing him is doing an awesome job anyway. Same with Saladhor Saan (who gets introduced in episode 2), not quite what I imagined, but within minutes of him showing up I didn't care because the portrayal of him in the show is great.

Theon's sister though is another thing entirely, so far not sold on her at all, not what I imagined at all and she hasn't really been in it enough for things to play out and see if I like the show's version, but so far, not sold on it. And Balon Greyjoy seems thinner and weaker than I had imagined, but meh, don't really care about him. As long as Victarion and Euron are suitably badass when they're introduced.
11:17pm 07/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5683 posts
Haven't read the books here, but I loved all the new people and their actors, with the exception of the sun-god priest, who seemed... oddly acted.
11:25pm 07/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18739 posts
Yeah, shes meant to be odd though
11:30pm 07/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5684 posts
She just seemed like a miscast porn star is all, but yeah, I can buy that she's just mean to be odd. Will need to see more.
11:33pm 07/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4638 posts
Side note: The movie 'Black Death' starring our red priestess Carice van Houten and headless friend Sean Bean (playing very similar characters) slipped under my radar, but I can report that it's not too bad.

11:42pm 07/04/12 Permalink
qmass
Queensland
10382 posts
pretty f*****g grim movie that, without much of a payoff. wouldn't recommend it to anyone but its a decent movie.

better off downloading the german film with Carice van Houten where she uses her boobies to entrap nazis.
11:53pm 07/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5685 posts
Heh, judging from that thumbnail, it also has Jack from Pillars of the Earth, sounds like a winning cast. Well ok maybe not, considering my just-stated views on the priestess chick.

edit: On another side note, one of the actors has been in a movie called Hogfather, Hogfather should watch Hogfather to create some kind of Hogfather-paradox.
01:56am 08/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18740 posts
One of the actors from Game of Thrones? Or one of the actors from that movie? Hogfather was a discworld movie, based on the book of the same name, which I always assumed is where hoggy got his name from in the first place.
02:35am 08/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5686 posts
Ah, makes sense. And yeah one of the actors from that movie, or one off it, tbh I can't remember how I got there now. :P
03:04am 08/04/12 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
7862 posts
Does Sean Bean die in that movie?
09:18am 08/04/12 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
838 posts
It's got Sean Bean in it doesn't it? So I assume he dies.
01:02pm 08/04/12 Permalink
Crakaveli
USA
6068 posts
motion to have a separate thread for the books.
02:50pm 08/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4639 posts
Is that motion because of the last few spoiler tags? There's nothing in there beyond what's been in the series.
03:46pm 08/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4640 posts
pretty f*****g grim movie that, without much of a payoff. wouldn't recommend it to anyone but its a decent movie.
better off downloading the german film with Carice van Houten where she uses her boobies to entrap nazis.


Yeah Black Death's definitely not the best movie and has a bit of an anti-climax, but it's still worth a look.
Boobies and Nazis is Black Book, yes?

Does Sean Bean die in that movie?

Spoiler:
Spectacularly.
03:52pm 08/04/12 Permalink
Damo
Brisbane, Queensland
6003 posts
Black death was ok, but I was just wanting it do finish faster.
04:02pm 08/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18746 posts
motion to have a separate thread for the books.


All the stuff talked about so far is from the first few episodes of season 2 of the tv show, not the books.
05:27pm 08/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14860 posts
just finished ep 2. wish it aired every night. the week wait is a killer.
07:13pm 09/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2559 posts
I don't think what happened at the end of the 2nd ep actually occurred in the books. Will be interesting how that plays out...its going to affect later on (in a few eps) a fair bit i suspect.
07:39pm 09/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18756 posts
You never saw it happen in the books, but it was very much hinted at, I definitely got the impression while reading the books that it was going on. Assuming you're referring to the bit with Stannis
08:09pm 09/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14861 posts
i think he's referring to the bit with jon
08:22pm 09/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18757 posts
Didn't that happen in the book? Been too long since I read it, but I definitely remember Spoiler:
Craster sacrificing his sons to the Others in the book.

Can't remember if Jon got caught by him though, maybe thats the difference.

08:27pm 09/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5689 posts
They have the writer working on the show anyway, so I figure that any additional stuff is likely intended.
08:41pm 09/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4644 posts
GRRM going to direct the most important episode later in the season I believe. Should be epic.
09:09pm 09/04/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7747 posts
I'm pretty sure that the part at the end with Jon isn't seen in the books, but it's pretty much outright said that it's what Craster does with his sons, and why he's been left alone whole the rest of the Wildlings have abandoned their villages.

It also sounds like they've gotten rid of Stannis' daughter. I guess she wasn't really important, but I was kind of curious as to how they'd show her greyscale. I really wanted to see Patchface too. :(

I also don't remember any of Dany's bloodriders being killed, which seems like a strange, unnecessary change. I like her bloodriders. :(
09:16pm 09/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18758 posts
Yeah, I wondered if they had got rid of Stannis daughter, cos it sounded like he had no children, but I wasn't sure if that was that he had no children or just no sons or no healthy children.
09:53pm 09/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2560 posts
Yeah I was referring to Craster knocking Jon Snow out at the very end. That wasn't in the book and the consequences of that should be interesting seeing as it's most likely going to cause a s****torm. It's going to deviate from how it progresses in the book.
10:56pm 09/04/12 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
599 posts
Just watched ep2. Good episode, need more.
11:01pm 09/04/12 Permalink
Vash
3484 posts
So ep 3 should've been aired around 2pm today, how long does it usually take to show up on certain sites?
11:43pm 09/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18760 posts
Ep 2 aired today, the only reason people saw ep 2 last week was cos of an advanced screening type of dealy that HBO did online for subscribers, but it only aired for real this week. So unless they do the online advance screening thing again this week for ep 3, you'll have to wait till next monday for it.
12:20am 10/04/12 Permalink
FraktuRe
Gold Coast, Queensland
4171 posts
It also sounds like they've gotten rid of Stannis' daughter. I guess she wasn't really important, but I was kind of curious as to how they'd show her greyscale. I really wanted to see Patchface too. :(

I also don't remember any of Dany's bloodriders being killed, which seems like a strange, unnecessary change. I like her bloodriders. :(


Yeah, seems like Stannis' daughter has been removed, which I'm okay with because patchface was an annoying c***.

I was sad that the blood rider died though :(

Also there has so far only been a passing reference to davos having his finger tips cut off, I thought they should have showed that more, since it's such an integral part of his character.
12:30am 10/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2561 posts
They can't really waste screen time to show exactly how the relationship between stannis and davos developed. I think they're balancing it well. They implied that they have a complicated relationship but he is 100% loyal to stannis; good enough imo.
12:36am 10/04/12 Permalink
MARLINBLADE
Queensland
360 posts
Ep 2 has less boy king fkheadedness and more boobies... thats a solid 2 thumbs up from me!!
09:38am 10/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18761 posts
I'm sure Davos' story and history with Stannis will be revealed more as the season progresses and it becomes pertinent.

I like Davos' backstory more as an example of the sort of man Stannis is though, rather than it adding a whole lot of depth to Davos himself. Prior to season 2, when I've been trying to explain to people who haven't read the books what sort of a person Stannis is, I use the story of what he did to Davos' as an example.
09:53am 10/04/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1025 posts
Yep the end part with Jon Snow was new, I hope that isn't how he Spoiler:
becomes apart of Mance Ryders crew


But EP 1 and 2 have failed to disappoint, except for the chicks tits Theon banged f*** she had s*** tits...
09:50am 11/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5699 posts
Probably the best possible dvd-commentary-thing for anything ever. (edit: since the title is cut, Game of Thrones the show opening sung by Sansa, Arya and Bran)

10:09am 11/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18767 posts
I hate Sansa, but then I hated her in the books too, so I guess its an accurate portrayal
10:48am 11/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4660 posts
Way to ruin a good opening theme track.
11:17am 11/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14866 posts
HBO just renewed it for a third season.
11:47am 11/04/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7760 posts
I'm pretty sure there was a quote from some HBO exec last year saying that they'll keep making the show as long as GRRM keeps writing books. Being renewed is good but unsurprising news.
03:00pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18774 posts
As long as they get to "that scene", I'll be happy, thats going to be some intense viewing.
03:31pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7761 posts
Indeed. I want to see people's faces almost as much as I want to see that scene.
03:35pm 11/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14868 posts
what scene might that be? the Spoiler:
shadow?
or something from a later book?
03:50pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4661 posts
How many seasons are we talking about that need to get picked up before we see what you're referring to?

Edit: beaten by rav
03:56pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Scooter
Brisbane, Queensland
5762 posts
How long till Dany's Dragons start eating people?
03:58pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18776 posts
I'm talking about something later in the books, you know, that scene where you have to put the book down after the chapter and go away for a while and just let it sink in cos you can't quite believe what you just read. I really don't want to say anything about it, because its one of those things you just wouldn't want to spoil in the slightest for people who haven't seen it or read it.

Shouldn't be too much later though, might possibly crop up in a 3rd season, if not, it'd be in the fourth.

How long till Dany's Dragons start eating people?


Quite a while till they're big enough to eat people, but they should Spoiler:
melt a few people's faces
in this season.
04:03pm 11/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14869 posts
removed spoiler


last edited by ravn0s at 16:13:15 11/Apr/12
04:07pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18777 posts
Yeah, that, but I was trying not to name it cos even the name is a little bit spoilerish, and this thread is frequented by a lot of people who haven't read the books.
04:09pm 11/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2563 posts
Lol I thought you were referring to something that happened in book 5 that also warrants stepping away and go "wow whoa"

Good s*** in the future!
04:15pm 11/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14870 posts
that scene is gonna be crazy. how far into the third book does it occur? it looks like the third book will be split into 2 seasons, so they might end the third season with it.
04:17pm 11/04/12 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
605 posts
Where are we in the books with S02E02? Past the first book I assume. I bought the kindle edition of the first book the other day for my cheap arse ZTE tablet.
04:37pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18778 posts
Yeah, first season of the show pretty much started and ended where the first book started and ended. Season 2 isn't so clear cut cos they're aren't doing things in the same order the books do anymore
04:53pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Saint
Cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
3171 posts
As long as they get to "that scene", I'll be happy, thats going to be some intense viewing.

Way to make me want to read the books even more now! Bastard
07:29pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7762 posts
Just read them Saint, you won't regret it. The books manage to make some of the big events more surprising too, due to the way that GRRM has written everything from the direct point of view of a select number of characters.
07:44pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Saint
Cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
3172 posts
Oh I'm reading them, just really slowly. Made it past half way in the second book over the easter break, want to stay ahead of the show heh.
07:46pm 11/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14874 posts
GRRM on the third season

Like the first two seasons, it will be ten episodes long. This one will cover (roughly) the first half or thereabouts of A STORM OF SWORDS, the third novel in the series.

I'll be writing the seventh episode, with the working title "Autumn Storms."
08:01pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1027 posts
Oh I'm reading them, just really slowly. Made it past half way in the second book over the easter break, want to stay ahead of the show heh.


You'll start to struggle with that soon unless you read faster there are parts in book three that will probably occur in S2
08:01pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7763 posts
08:07pm 11/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14875 posts
lol
08:14pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4663 posts
GRRM sure has that creepy uncle presence mastered.
Don't die before you finish your series filled with corruption, sex, violence, manipulation, betrayal, revenge, incest, pedophilia and corporeal mutilation, buddy!
08:37pm 11/04/12 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
609 posts
Game of Thrones is my new Star Wars, If only Star Wars would be this awesome.
08:50pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1460 posts

There's so many ridonkulously epic scenes from the books I can't wait to see visualised.

Spoiler:
The red wedding for one, not to mention the battle for kings landing and some of Dany's city sacking


I found Sansa quite annoying in the books, such a loser, I kind of felt bad for her though and hoped she makes it in the end. The actress playing her is only 16!
10:25pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18782 posts
Can we keep book related spoilers out of the thread? Just thinking of the people who haven't read the books, might come along and mouse over a spoiler thinking its about the show (since this thread is about the show) and inadvertently spoil some really awesome stuff for themselves. Talking about the books is all good, just try not to post outright book spoilers, too much good s*** coming up to accidentally spoil it for anyone :)
10:37pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5701 posts
I'm just avoiding all spoiler tags out of sheer terror, and am even glazing my vision over while indirectly looking at each post to scan for spoiler-potential - it's a complex process.

Maybe "Book/Episode Spoiler" mentioned before the tag would be useful.
10:44pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Crakaveli
USA
6074 posts
or just .. ya know.. make a separate thread.
11:00pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1461 posts
Sorry chaps, I'd edit my post but apparently its too old to edit. I'll leave them out or do 'BOOK SPOILER ALERT' in future.
11:02pm 11/04/12 Permalink
qmass
Queensland
10385 posts
I'm not really sure why people hate Sansa so much...

In the book she is younger than the show so it is even more forgivable that she is a stupid kid that grew up dreaming of life in a big city and becoming a queen - essentially living in a fairy tail - and as a result is the most naive of the kids and shortsighted of the consequences of her actions. In the end she pays for her choices and like many characters in the show this sets up a great opportunity (book spoilers: forget which exactly - they are all one book in my mind)

Spoiler:
to see a big personality swing after a time of anguish - Jamie will become one of the cooler characters in the series unless he dies and the hound seems to be following a similar progression (he is almost certainly the grave digger on the island monastery, having washing up following the red wedding) Similarly Sansa is now getting a degree in being a sneaky c*** care of littlefinger and arguably this follows a harder trial than both bran and ned once you add up all the mind-f*****g she goes through living at kings landing and the vale.
11:12pm 11/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2566 posts
re qmass
Spoiler:
wow, i never made that connection about the grave digger and the hound. I'm kind of annoyed with myself
11:15pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7764 posts
Can we keep book related spoilers out of the thread? Just thinking of the people who haven't read the books, might come along and mouse over a spoiler thinking its about the show (since this thread is about the show) and inadvertently spoil some really awesome stuff for themselves. Talking about the books is all good, just try not to post outright book spoilers, too much good s*** coming up to accidentally spoil it for anyone :)

I think it should be okay as long as we clearly mark what the spoilers are for. Just stating the title of the book should be enough for people either just watching the show or not very far into the books to easily avoid.

I never really hated Sansa. I was pissed at her for just always telling Joffrey what he wanted to hear without sticking up for herself, but you can't really hold that against her, she kind of has to do that if she wants to survive. She's a prisoner.

***A Storm Of Swords Spoiler***
Spoiler:
I even found the parts as Alayne to be okay. I mean, I didn't look forward to those chapters, but I they didn't bore/annoy me, though that could have also been due to my curiosity regarding what exactly Little Finger was scheming.


last edited by Midda at 23:25:00 11/Apr/12
11:23pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4664 posts
I was pissed at her for just always telling Joffrey what he wanted to hear without sticking up for herself, but you can't really hold that against her, she kind of has to do that if she wants to survive.


It's good to be the king!

http://www.infendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/history-of-the-world-part-i.jpg
11:53pm 11/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18783 posts
I didn't really hate her for anything she did, I just hated her because she was the most vapid, bland, annoying character in the first few books and her chapters were so crap compared to a lot of the others. I guess hate is maybe a bit strong of a word, but her chapters were definitely, by a large margin, the weakest in the first few books and whenever I saw one of her chapters coming up I'd flick ahead to see how much of her I'd have to read before getting back into something interesting. The only good parts of her chapters was when she was interacting with other more interesting characters like the Hound, not because of anything she did herself.

She became a bit more interesting in the fourth book, with the stuff Midda was talking about, but I'm still not sure I actually like her any better as a character, or I just liked her chapters more because she was involved with one of the best characters/plot lines in that book.
12:02am 12/04/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1463 posts
@Khel

Might be a HUGE spoiler for TV show viewers:

Spoiler:
Did you not hate her for telling Queen Cercei about Ned's plan to forcibly take the throne and thus cuasing his capture+death!?
01:55am 12/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2570 posts
umm viper that never happened?
02:46am 12/04/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1464 posts

I'm almost certain it did, it's mentioned in passing by a few characters but not explained directly.
03:34am 12/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2571 posts
really?

season 1 spoiler>
Spoiler:
I thought she only found out because Ned was nieve enough to trust littlefinger to organise the gold cloaks and so that was how Cercei found out - via Littlefinger.
06:31pm 12/04/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1465 posts

Yeah I thought so, hard to verify unless Khel or someone can chime in, trawling through the books wouldn't be fun!

This is what I remember, SEASON 1/2 SPOILER ALERT:

Spoiler:
At some point in one of the books Cercei is talking about how stupid Sansa is, but also the irony of how fortunate it is, as Sansa came and told the queen about Ned's plan to hold the throne and send his household (arya/sansa) back to the North.

I also recall it may have been in some of Sansa's thought monologue, when shes trying to work out why the queen is so nasty to her once she starts oppresing her, she mentions she went and told the queen about her fathers plans as she thought it might win the queens favour.



Maybe I've got it all wrong. Though on a similar note, there are loads of seemingly unimportant tidbits throughout the books that in retrospect could be huge hints for things, like:

SPOILER ALERT, do not read unless you've read all the books.

Spoiler:
They talk about how the mad king used to take the right of nailing new wedding brides, and he slept with Tywin Lannisters wife (Which is why Tywin hated the mad king so much, that and he made Jamie a kingsguard) which suggests that Cercsei and Jamie might be of half Targaryen descent, given the Targaryen's penchant for incest.

09:58pm 12/04/12 Permalink
FraktuRe
Gold Coast, Queensland
4174 posts
Spoiler:
I'm pretty sure Sansa didn't tell Cersei that Ned planned to overthrow her, just that Ned was sending his girls home, and then Cersei pieced together more.
10:03pm 12/04/12 Permalink
kappa
Brisbane, Queensland
1878 posts
F*** this thread! It's just a minefield of spoiler tags.
10:17pm 12/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2573 posts
F*** this thread! It's just a minefield of spoiler tags.

Only the brave (and stupid) come to these threads once its passed a few pages.
10:58pm 12/04/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1467 posts
I think Frakture is correct.
11:04pm 12/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5703 posts
Only the brave (and stupid) come to these threads once its passed a few pages.

but I want all the amusing memes and announcements and stuff. :/
11:05pm 12/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18786 posts
Yeah, I was going to agree with you Viper, I do remember Sansa saying something and giving it away to Cersei, but I think Frakture is right with the details. Either way, yeah, Sansa is naieve and stupid and still worth hating (or at least, intensely disliking). Right from the moment in the first book/season where she sided with Joffrey and the Queen over what happened with Arya and the Butcher's boy, I hated her. Traitor to her blood.
11:18pm 12/04/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7770 posts
Actually, yeah, I wanted to punch her in the f*****g throat for that stuff with Arya and the Butcher's boy. I felt a bit bad for her afterward though when they had Lady killed. Actually, I felt more upset for Lady than for Sansa. Poor puppy. ;_;
10:53am 13/04/12 Permalink
Pirroh
Melbourne, Victoria
668 posts
Kid took an arrow to the knee.
04:27pm 16/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14910 posts
no daenerys this ep :(

loved how tyrion played varys, littlefinger and pycelle
07:02pm 16/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18820 posts
Hodor doesn't say Hodor anywhere near enough. There was a perfect opportunity for a confused "Hodor?" when he was staring at Bran and the wolf, but it failed to deliver :(

No Rainbow Guard either, maybe they figured it'd look a bit too camp. I suppose they don't have to worry about subtle indicators that Renly is gay when they can just go ahead and show blatant mansex.

Still awesome though!
09:49pm 16/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2578 posts
They really rushed through the part where Arya gets attacked. That took ages to develop in the book and it came about really differently. Not sure how I feel about that, I still feel the characters in that group dont know each other, when in fact they went through a hell of a lot before they get caught in the book. Guess it had to be done due to episode limitations.
12:08am 17/04/12 Permalink
Creepy
USA
1907 posts
10 episodes, one big book. S***'s gonna change.

And people are still arguing over Brienne's casting/appearance. :P
03:16am 17/04/12 Permalink
Saint
Cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
3176 posts
They really rushed through the part where Arya gets attacked. That took ages to develop in the book and it came about really differently. Not sure how I feel about that, I still feel the characters in that group dont know each other, when in fact they went through a hell of a lot before they get caught in the book. Guess it had to be done due to episode limitations.

I actually thought they compressed that part of the story well by having them captured at the same time as the main attack on the group. I'd agree that they really haven't shown the friendships between the characters in the group though and so far they haven't really shown the dudes in the cage were really dangerous either.
07:03am 17/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5724 posts
Coming from not having read the books, I got the impression that the dudes in the cage were pretty dangerous, I guess because everybody there is pretty much a criminal, and yet those guys are in the cage.

Didn't really get much impression of friendship though, it seemed that Arya and the King's bastard were sort of outliers, and I was surprised that the other people seemed to be going along with not ratting out the blacksmith dude.
07:10am 17/04/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1038 posts
And people are still arguing over Brienne's casting/appearance. :P


I thought her casting was great, fits the mold perfectly to what I had in my head.

They really rushed through the part where Arya gets attacked. That took ages to develop in the book and it came about really differently. Not sure how I feel about that, I still feel the characters in that group dont know each other, when in fact they went through a hell of a lot before they get caught in the book. Guess it had to be done due to episode limitations.

I actually thought they compressed that part of the story well by having them captured at the same time as the main attack on the group. I'd agree that they really haven't shown the friendships between the characters in the group though and so far they haven't really shown the dudes in the cage were really dangerous either.

Yeah I a bit shocked too at how quickly they were attacked and captured all in the one scene, goes on for a few chapters in the books. I'm still trying to work out how far into the this season might progress through the books, as alot of what has happened already I thought it would of been in the later episodes.

But overall I'm very impressed at how everything is progressing.
08:14am 17/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18823 posts
That wasn't even the Brave Companions that captured them was it? I missed the guy's name when he introduced himself when they first showed up, but I don't think he was Vargo Hoat

I liked Brienne though, not quite what I had pictured, but the way she moved so awkwardly and mannish while she was stomping around in her armor sealed it for me.
09:54am 17/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14914 posts
it wasn't vargo.
10:14am 17/04/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1039 posts
That wasn't even the Brave Companions that captured them was it? I missed the guy's name when he introduced himself when they first showed up, but I don't think he was Vargo Hoat


I thought it was 'The Mountains' men that captured her in the book as they were sacking a town and killing the villagers.

The Brave Companions show up later or am I mistaken?
11:29am 17/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2579 posts
Also was hoping they showed the burning and pillaging that occurred thanks to tywins orders
11:32am 17/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18824 posts
Hrmm, yeah, you might be right, its been too long since I read the book, I thought the mountain's men and the brave companions were one and the same.

I should probably re-read the books, while I can remember the broad strokes, a lot of the details are all muddied up and mashed together in my head.
11:42am 17/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4685 posts
I thought it was 'The Mountains' men that captured her in the book as they were sacking a town and killing the villagers.


Yeah I was really confused about this point as well because it looks like they've condensed it a bit and also I wasn't following the Arya chapters in Clash of Kings as closely as the other POVs.

Book spoilers of the next few episodes:
Spoiler:
Amory Lorch and crew crash them at a deserted town on the God's Eye lake, killing Yoren. Arya, Gendry, Hot Pie & Lommy Greenhands escape. Then Gregor Clegane recapture them as they're heading north, Raff the Sweetling kills Lommy and they take the rest to Harrenhal where they meet up with Jaqen H'ghar and other prisoners again.

11:53am 17/04/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6776 posts
another good ep ! http://www.ausgamers.com/res/static/images/icons/icon14.gif

i just started reading the first book last night. straight up the first scene with the 3 rangers out beyond the wall was so much better they way it was done in the books. i can see why they'd need to condense it a bit as the scene was much longer in the book. bit weird how they changed which of the 3 rangers survived to go back to the wall & have his head chopped off by ned stark. made more sense the way it was done in the book.


anyways... GAME OF THRONES !@#! w00t!
12:26pm 17/04/12 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
1957 posts
the sections about theon i think were done quite well
12:48pm 17/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5726 posts
Yeah, I'm loving the Theon story the most at the moment. Though I may be biased, for some reason I keep thinking "this dude reminds me of me somehow" - probably a shared feeling of being a lost f***up. :P
12:51pm 17/04/12 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
1958 posts
Yeah, I'm loving the Theon story the most at the moment. Though I may be biased, for some reason I keep thinking "this dude reminds me of me somehow" - probably a shared feeling of being a lost f***up. :P


ha! you won't want to associate yourself with him in a few eps. . . . . . ;)
12:54pm 17/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18826 posts
I wonder how far they'll go with Theon's story in this season, like, should we expect Reek to show up?

I'd assume theres going to be a few Daenerys-heavy episodes coming up too, since shes barely been in it so far and wasn't in Ep 3 at all. Haven't seen Rob or Jamie for a while either, needs more Jamie.

Also, the person they have playing Margarey Tyrell is bizarre, not in a bad way, just in a weird way. Its like she has this cute little pixie face, but then these incredibly piercing, intense eyes, and rides this line between innocent little girl and scheming whore. I'm a fan.
01:01pm 17/04/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1040 posts
I wonder how far they'll go with Theon's story in this season, like, should we expect Reek to show up?

I'd assume theres going to be a few Daenerys-heavy episodes coming up too, since shes barely been in it so far and wasn't in Ep 3 at all. Haven't seen Rob or Jamie for a while either, needs more Jamie.



*Don't read unless finished book 3*

Spoiler:
There were some images floating around on the internet that looked like the Iron army storming Winterfell so with a bit of luck we may/may not see that in the later episodes with, I could see this happening in the last episode to leave us with a cliff hanger along with Jon joining up with Mance Ryders men (apparently yet to be cast). I can see the battle for Kings Landing being the big battle of this season.

Probably see more of Jamie/Robb in the later episodes when Jamie is free and Robb runs around banging his misses fixing up the Frays mess, although this doesn't happen until after the battle of Kings Landing

Such as Daenerys should of found her Warlock friend by now, but she is still stuck in the desert.

01:48pm 17/04/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7776 posts
and rides this line between innocent little girl and scheming whore.

Which seems like a pretty dead-on description of her. They cast her brilliantly.

I reply to Mosfx's book spoiler:
Spoiler:
One of the trailers released before the season started had a clip with soldiers riding through the gates of Winterfell with the tarred bodies of two young boys hanging on either side, so I have little doubt that we'll see Winterfell taken.


I really liked the conversation between Yoren and Arya too. They managed to compress a lot of Yoren and Arya's relationship form the books into that one scene, and laid the foundation for Arya's little bedtime prayer. They're doing a great job at adapting a lot of the inner-monologues for TV.
02:39pm 17/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18828 posts
I actually thought Yoren felt like a better developed character in the show than he did in the books
02:44pm 17/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5727 posts
Yeah I loved Yoren. :(
03:08pm 17/04/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1473 posts
The mountains men and the brave companions are definitely different.

TV SHOW SPOILER ALERT

Spoiler:
I think the companions kill whats left of the mountains men after he gets called back to Kings Landing, or vice versa.. Or maybe its Roose Bolton's north men when they take harrenhal.


Margaery's character is interesting, as that scheming whore side of her is never confirmed.. and it's only impied at by the Queen.. and it doesn't get proven, no?


09:39pm 17/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4688 posts
Yeah I loved Yoren. :(

Yeah he was alright. I wouldn't advise get attached to any character though.

They had incest, gay & threeway sex all in separate scenes last season. This season they decided it'd be awesome to imply throwing them altogether into one. I can't remember that conversation Margaery Tyrell had with Renly - is that in the books? lol
10:02pm 17/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2580 posts
no lol. at that point in the book those characters were not POV characters so what is going on there is the directors interpretation of the book.
10:41pm 17/04/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1474 posts

Also anyone check out the SNL skit? Link here. Sorry can't embed.
10:41pm 17/04/12 Permalink
FraktuRe
Gold Coast, Queensland
4181 posts
We don't see very much of renly in the books at all, since he's not a POV character.
10:44pm 17/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18835 posts
what is going on there is the directors interpretation of the book


Well, it has GRRM's blessing anyway, thats good enough for me even if it wasn't in the books.
11:02pm 17/04/12 Permalink
The GuVna
Brisbane, Queensland
1790 posts
Explanation Of Nude Scenes in Game Of Thrones

Cant embed / SNL skit etc. etc.
11:18pm 17/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5728 posts
Heh yeah I saw the SNL thing the other day, and did feel that I wouldn't miss a lot of the superfluous sex, though what seemed like nothingness with Renly quickly went somewhere more interesting.
02:02am 18/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18840 posts
I don't think its all that gratuitous, there was even more sex in the books which they've cut out (but then I guess, to be fair, they've added other scenes full of tits and f*****g to make up for it). It all goes towards setting the tone for the story and the world and the characters that live in it. I mean, for me, part of what made the books such great reading at a time when I was completely burnt out on traditional fantasy was that it was such a dirty, cruel, "real" feeling setting, and I think if you sanitised it and took the sex out you'd lose some of that.
09:44am 18/04/12 Permalink
FraktuRe
Gold Coast, Queensland
4185 posts
Just as an FYI, the actress who played Old Nan died, which is why she isn't there attending Bran.
10:29pm 18/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18853 posts
Yeah, and Saint was telling me the other day, the actor they had playing The Mountain in season 1 was unavailable, so hes being played by a different actor now in season 2 :(
10:43pm 18/04/12 Permalink
IncrEdible_vEgetable
Brisbane, Queensland
2034 posts
and did feel that I wouldn't miss a lot of the superfluous sex


Why am i not surprised?

Dice round 2.
12:36am 19/04/12 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
629 posts
The Hound and the Mountain are cool, I dislike it when there is an actor change in a TV show.
01:39am 19/04/12 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
1960 posts
The Hound and the Mountain are cool, I dislike it when there is an actor change in a TV show.


i suggest you avoid spartacus then ;)
08:52am 19/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4692 posts
Heh, swapping out a character like The Mountain you'd expect they'll get away with fairly easily. I'd expect they will make it painfully clear to people not familiar with the story though, lest everyone think yet another f'ing character to figure out where they fit in.
09:27am 19/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14935 posts
the dude was in like 1 scene. not many people are going to notice.
09:30am 19/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14961 posts
the shadow!

next ep is gonna be a killer.

also joffrey is such as sadistic c***.

last edited by ravn0s at 18:57:55 23/Apr/12
06:50pm 23/04/12 Permalink
Jayman
Brisbane, Queensland
659 posts
Also, the person they have playing Margarey Tyrell is bizarre, not in a bad way, just in a weird way. Its like she has this cute little pixie face, but then these incredibly piercing, intense eyes, and rides this line between innocent little girl and scheming whore. I'm a fan.


If you saw her in The Tudors her character has the same kinda feel.
08:28pm 23/04/12 Permalink
Scooter
Brisbane, Queensland
5790 posts
As someone who hasn't read the books, that ep left me asking "The F***!?"

Guess I was getting into the Medieval a bit too much and forgot that there is bound to be a heap of fantasy mixed in (You know, with the Dragons/North of the wall and all)
08:34pm 23/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14965 posts
yeah there's still magic, just not as much magic as you usually see with high fantasy.
08:43pm 23/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4704 posts
^ also high fantasy rarely involves shadowy creatures emerging from the hot priestess' snatch.
08:54pm 23/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5800 posts
As someone who hasn't read the books, that ep left me asking "The F***!?"

Guess I was getting into the Medieval a bit too much and forgot that there is bound to be a heap of fantasy mixed in (You know, with the Dragons/North of the wall and all)

Yeah, it struck me as unexpected too, then had to remember that there has been dragons and winter zombies and psychic wolves. :P

edit: And witches!
09:12pm 23/04/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7788 posts
That's about as in-your-face as the magical stuff gets. As I think Khel mentioned earlier, the magic is pretty dark and f***ed up, but infrequent.

Though there's always the chance that they'll ramp it up for the show.
10:18pm 23/04/12 Permalink
qmass
Queensland
10394 posts
It was epically f***ed up as described in the book and its part of what makes the magic in the series bearable - no spells with instant results... more like rituals performed for gods to deliver.
10:34pm 23/04/12 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
961 posts
...the actor they had playing The Mountain in season 1 was unavailable...


I f*****g hope the gig he chose was a lot better than the gig he took in Startacus: Vengeance.
The Mountain's scene from S1 was pretty f***** memorable.

It's good to see Targaryen's story actually going somewhere (seriously, they must have something F*****G HUGE lined up for that (which is plain enough to see), It's been a season and a half of character development for her.
Spoiler:
I found it quite interesting how close to discarding her
that the plot even hinted at in S2E4

Seeing Tywin Lannister again was f***** awesome, quite possibly the best single piece of casting I've seen in a television show.

Tyrion has also had a huge couple of episodes, it must be maddening trying to weave these plots as carefully as the show does (and what a fine line it is to have something included/cut from the screen)

As for 'the Magic'.... well that was quite out of the blue.
12:55am 24/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2594 posts
I really liked how they brought the shadow out into the tv show, by suggesting that the spell required Stannis's jizz. Certainly different to the book as it was never made so obvious that the two got it on. So you just assumed she just casted a spell.

Cool cool cool.

spoiler for ppl who havent read the book and want to know why they had to smuggle her in (most likely will be glossed over i suspect)

Spoiler:
Red b**** mentions that she would otherwise s*** out the shadow in the comfort of her tent but the walls around the castle that Renly resides behind still have very old magic protecting it from back in the day so Stannis had to smuggle her in behind the walls
01:15am 24/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4706 posts
It's good to see Targaryen's story actually going somewhere (seriously, they must have something F*****G HUGE lined up for that (which is plain enough to see), It's been a season and a half of character development for her.

Yeah I think you're right. The setup is painstakingly long, so the pay off needs to (and likely will) be enormous.
Then again...
07:24am 24/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14972 posts

I f*****g hope the gig he chose was a lot better than the gig he took in Startacus: Vengeance.


he's currently filming a role in the hobbit movies.
07:44am 24/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18883 posts
I really liked how they brought the shadow out into the tv show, by suggesting that the spell required Stannis's jizz.


Haven't watched the episode yet, so I dunno how they've done it in the show, but I definitely got the impression while reading the book that Stannis was f*****g Melisandre, and that the "spells" she was casting were using his life/energy/whatever as fuel (theres a couple of times where different characters point out how drawn Stannis is looking, like something is sucking the life out of him). I guess they just make it a bit more obvious in the tv show.
10:05am 24/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4707 posts
I think Davos muses in his POV chapter that the shadow unmistakably looks like Stannis.
10:11am 24/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2596 posts
Haven't watched the episode yet, so I dunno how they've done it in the show, but I definitely got the impression while reading the book that Stannis was f*****g Melisandre, and that the "spells" she was casting were using his life/energy/whatever as fuel (theres a couple of times where different characters point out how drawn Stannis is looking, like something is sucking the life out of him). I guess they just make it a bit more obvious in the tv show.


I must have powered through too fast and missed these hints. :(
10:12am 24/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18886 posts
I think Davos muses in his POV chapter that the shadow unmistakably looks like Stannis.


Ah yeah, that too.

I must have powered through too fast and missed these hints. :(


Yeah, some of it was pretty subtle. Same with the stuff about Renly being gay, I thought that was added for the show, turns out hes actually gay in the books too but that went completely over my head while reading them.
10:13am 24/04/12 Permalink
kappa
Brisbane, Queensland
1880 posts
When will the queen get her kit off like everyone else?

Also they really know how to end an episode.
10:14am 24/04/12 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
7902 posts
As someone who hasn't read the books, that ep left me asking "The F***!?"


Wifey and I said the same thing after watching it last night, if you haven't read the books you'd be staring at the end of the episode thinking "What the f*** was that?!".

All in all a good episode, the Qarth bit was strange, I don't recall them being so defensive in the books - in fact I thought they welcomed her in with open arms. Anyone else think that Joffrey was going to get the chick to shove that thing up the others hoo-hoo?
10:19am 24/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18887 posts
From the Game of Thrones wiki:

A shadow is a form of magic used by Melisandre to *removed spoilers*. Since a shadow is a "servant of the light", the sorceress is able to invoke the human-like shadow and direct it against her enemy. The shadow is formed through an act of sexual intercourse between Melisandre and her liege, Lord Stannis Baratheon so they are also known as Shadow Babies. After a period of "gestation", Melisandre can invoke the shadow by "birthing" it. During the birth, the shadow is visible and takes the form recognizable as Stannis Baratheon.[2] Later, the shadow becomes more shadow-like and difficult to detect by eye. The shadow is armed with a sword, similar to the flaming sword wielded by Stannis. .

The effect on Stannis Baratheon is significant. He appears to have aged years after siring a shadow on Melisandre.


I'd recommend not going and looking it up yourself though if you're worried about spoilers, I had to sanitise the above paragraph to make it spoiler safe :P
10:22am 24/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4708 posts
some people semi-recognise it and think it looks a bit like Stannis as well?

Possibly? I'm not sure.

ACoK book spoilers:
Spoiler:
I can't remember Catelyn or Brienne saying anything about it looking like Stannis when the shadow does its deed.
Although... I do remember later on Stannis doesn't want to use Melisandre in the big battles for fear of people thinking he stole the throne via witchcraft so maybe you're right.



When will the queen get her kit off like everyone else?

You heard Salladhor Saan - when he rapes her into next Tuesday.
I have a feeling the Winterfell tower with Jaime was the limit of her contractual nudity agreement though.

Anyone else think that Joffrey was going to get the chick to shove that thing up the others hoo-hoo?

Haha, I remember thinking something like "Uh oh, antler end first is a bit harsh, even for Joffrey."
10:22am 24/04/12 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
7903 posts

I have a feeling the Winterfell tower with Jaime was the limit of her contractual nudity agreement though.


Spoiler:
Who knows, maybe in the later seasons we get to some Cersei on girl action when she has the foreign chick in her bed giving her a rodgering pretending she was Robert after a drunken night.
10:45am 24/04/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7790 posts
When will the queen get her kit off like everyone else?

Just go watch 300 if you want to see Lena Heady's boobs.

Does anyone else think that the new guy playing The Mountain is way too skinny? He doesn't look anywhere near as imposing as the previous actor. He just looks lanky.
11:12am 24/04/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6788 posts
yeh i thought he was a new tall lannister banner-man at first. it wasn't until arya named him that i realised it was the new actor for the mountain. he's tall... but not mountain-like :(

very interesting development for arya & gendry (i'm reading the books but not up to shows as yet). if this was a typical formulaic tv show there wouldn't be so much tension... but coz it's game of throne i really thought gendry was gonna die in that episode.. & that's what makes it awesome :D

tyrion is killing it !@#!@ >.<
12:05pm 24/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5804 posts
He seemed pretty evil, so that worked well if that's his thing.

if this was a typical formulaic tv show there wouldn't be so much tension... but coz it's game of throne i really thought gendry was gonna die in that episode.. & that's what makes it awesome :D

Yeah, agreed, I'm still left with a hole inside over the night's watch recruiter.
12:24pm 24/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2597 posts
Oh that whole thing with arya being tywins wine b**** is totally different to how it is in the books and might have its own ramifications.
12:58pm 24/04/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1054 posts
Nah just saves introducing the other characters that she worked for csirac that don't really have a large impact in the great scheme of things.
01:07pm 24/04/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7791 posts
Yeah, I don't think Arya being Tywin's cup bearer is really going to make much of a difference.
01:09pm 24/04/12 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
12329 posts
For the curious re. Cersei nudity, f*****g huge spoiler if not interested so don't hover and have a cry:

Spoiler:
Eventually Cersei gets f***ed up and arrested, hits rock bottom and is dragged through the streets starkers on the way to the trial, while peasants throw s*** at her
01:14pm 24/04/12 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
7904 posts

Nah just saves introducing the other characters that she worked for csirac that don't really have a large impact in the great scheme of things.


Wifey commented on this last night, about how many story lines and plots in the books end up going nowhere.
01:16pm 24/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4709 posts
but coz it's game of throne i really thought gendry was gonna die in that episode.. & that's what makes it awesome :D


Haha that's the magic of not reading the books first I guess.
I was more squeamish at the fate of the no name dude before him..."Gendry doesn't die here (yawn)"
That mindset is going to screw me if the story diverges though.
01:58pm 24/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18890 posts
Just watched it, awesome stuff as per usual, seems to be starting to diverge more from the books though. Like it seemed to me they were almost sowing the seeds for Spoiler:
Rob to fall for that chick from Volantis who was helping the wounded soldiers, and if they make that the person he falls for and marries
, then thats a pretty big change. Also, like someone mentioned above, the whole arriving at Qarth thing played out very differently.

Also, maybe my memory is just s***, but does Tywin Lannister show up at Harrenhal in the books?

*spoilers for 2nd book*

Spoiler:
Wasn't it Vargo Hoat that got Harrenhal, and then Roose Bolton came and took it off him? How is that going to play out now? And how is the whole bit with Jamie and Brienne fighting in the pit, and Jamie losing his hand and all that going to happen now?
03:15pm 24/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5808 posts
Aw, sorry to be a b****, but even things like who Rob doesn't end up marrying in the books, could you possibly spoiler tag that? It's great not knowing at all what to expect.
03:22pm 24/04/12 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
637 posts
What happens in the books with Arya and Gendry at that castle place with Tywin?
05:30pm 24/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4710 posts
Re your spoiler, Khel (big spoilers for next 2-3 eps or so!):
Spoiler:

I think the order of events is something like this:
- Ser Amory Lorch kills Yoren, Arya, Gendry & co escape and they head north towards Winterfell
- Ser Gregor Clegane recaptures Arya & co, taking them to Harrenhal where they regroup with Amory Lorch & Jaqen H'ghar
- Tywin Lannister and Vargo Hoat arrive at Harrenhal from after being cut off from the Westerlands where Robb is wreaking havoc
- Tywin Lannister doesn't stay long and heads onwards to protect Kings Landing from Stannis
- Gregor Clegane heads off separately with his men to rape and pillage some more in the Riverlands.
- Arya & co escape, crossing a few peeps off the hit list she's reciting deciding that Riverrun is a better option now than Winterfell so they'll head there
- Vargo Hoat clashes with Amory Lorch, and kills him by feeding him to the bear. Hoat retakes Harrenhal , and then hands the castle over to Roose Bolton because they struck a deal.



What happens in the books with Arya and Gendry at that castle place with Tywin?

Small spoiler:
Spoiler:
They're prisoners, basically.

Bigger spoiler:
Spoiler:
Eventually they get scared they're gonna be killed at one of Ticker's interrogations so they escape.
06:12pm 24/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2598 posts
Yeah Khel should spoiler tag some of his post lol

SPOILER MINEFIELD in this page lol
06:35pm 24/04/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1055 posts
Spoiler:
WTF I JUST READ THE RED WEDDING I DID NOT JUST READ THAT MY BOOK IS BROKEN!!!
06:56pm 24/04/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1482 posts
Haha!

Spoiler:
The red wedding still haunts me.


07:06pm 24/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2599 posts
Spoiler:
If the red wedding has mindf***ed you. I take it you havent finished A Dance with Dragons....holy s*** does the end of that book just f*** everything you know up.
07:28pm 24/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18893 posts
Sorry, added some more spoiler tags to my post.

Anyway, Daz, I thought

Spoiler:
Arya was still around when Roose Bolton took Harrenhal, cos wasn't she like his cupbearer or something? Cos theres chapters where you see more of Roose Bolton in Harrenhal, and you see him leeching himself and stuff (the man does enjoy a good leeching), and I can't think of any other PoV character that could have been seeing those things besides Arya
07:40pm 24/04/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7792 posts
Haha Mosfx.

Khel, some of the stuff you mention in the spoiler is from Storm of Swords, not Clash of Kings.

And yeah, Tywin did show up in Harrenhal in the books. Arya wasn't his cup bearer, but he was still there. It seems like minor changes that shouldn't have much on an impact on Arya's story.

And (third book spoilers):
Spoiler:
The nurse on the battlefield is played by Oona Chaplin, who I'm pretty sure was announced as being the actress for Jeyne Westerling. She's possibly just hiding her identity from him. Jeyne was the one who nursed Robb back to health from an arrow wound in the books, so she obviously knows how to take care of the wounded. And Jeyne wasn't introduced to the story until after she and Robb are already married, so any number of things could have happened between them that weren't in the books.
07:43pm 24/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4711 posts
Ahh yeah I think you're right Khel, it'd have to be that way from a purely POV point of view. (heh)
08:10pm 24/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2600 posts
Khel: Spoiler:
Yea, Arya was Roose's cup bearer hence why i was a bit concerned with that whole change in plot, since i think it actually has a big impact.
08:39pm 24/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18894 posts
With regards to Midda's spoiler, thats fair enough then.

Spoiler:
Its probably better that they're introducing her earlier in the show, because in the books she really kind of comes out of nowhere and its just Rob going "Yeah I did all this stuff, and met this girl, and all this stuff happened, and we're married now" which wouldn't work so well in the show I don't think. I'm not sure it even worked so well in the books, it was one part that always felt a bit like sloppy, lazy storytelling to me, but I'm willing to let GRRM off for it considering all the other balls he has in the air.
09:47pm 24/04/12 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
7905 posts
Mosfx,

Spoiler:

Yep red wedding completed screwed me over, it was so disturbing I couldn't get to sleep - just kept thinking .. wtf have I read, that can't be right.

09:51pm 24/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18896 posts
I think this thread has officially become unsafe for anyone who hasn't read the books :P
09:54pm 24/04/12 Permalink
FraktuRe
Gold Coast, Queensland
4189 posts
10:03pm 24/04/12 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
783 posts

Spoiler:
red wedding will lose all viewers of the tv series, people cannot handle this s***
10:04pm 24/04/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7796 posts
I think this thread has officially become unsafe for anyone who hasn't read the books :P

Yeah, but is it really worth creating separate thread though? I mean, we're still talking about everything in the context of the show.

But yeah, I guess all of these spoiler tags must be awfully tempting/frustrating for those who haven't read the books.
10:27pm 24/04/12 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
784 posts
I think we need a completed discussion, TV discussion and maybe each book discussions.
10:51pm 24/04/12 Permalink
funky
Brisbane, Queensland
1629 posts
lawl, for those not up to the end of a dance with dragons, i would not go anywhere near viper's last spoiler, even by accident
10:54pm 24/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2602 posts
ahah yeah "spoiler" doesnt quite do that justice. its like the Chernobyl of spoilers
10:58pm 24/04/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1484 posts
Yeah.. maybe we do need a separate thread.
12:43am 25/04/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1056 posts
Yeah.. maybe you do need to deleted your last post :P

So good I wasn't going to continue reading, but now I want to see how it all plays out, this book series is so good no one is safe.
07:36am 25/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14983 posts
But yeah, I guess all of these spoiler tags must be awfully tempting/frustrating for those who haven't read the books.


it would be just as tempting to click on a thread about the books.

imo just skip the posts with spoiler tags since they're most likely about the books.



08:04am 25/04/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2603 posts
11:52am 25/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18898 posts
Haha, nice
12:09pm 25/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5813 posts
That was all that was going through my head during that scene...
12:10pm 25/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14984 posts
they spent all the CGI money on the cool looking city.
12:12pm 25/04/12 Permalink
FraktuRe
Gold Coast, Queensland
4190 posts
Yeah, I was a little disappointed they made the city look so epic.. and then there's all of a dozen soldiers there.
01:13pm 25/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18900 posts
Well, its not like they really needed to bring too many soldiers outside to deal with Daenerys since she only had like a handful of people with her and they were all half-starved and dehydrated. I think in the book she still has a decent number of people with her, like a few hundred (though mostly old people and women and children and wounded/crippled people left behind when the rest of the Khalasar rolled out) but in the show she has hardly anyone left with her by that point.

Also, for people who've read the books:

Spoiler:
Is Qarth where she gets her army of Unsullied or is that later?
01:34pm 25/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4715 posts
I love how she gets a lesson from the Qartheen grammar police on the pronunciation of the city's name.
Nothing but big fan service to all those pointless internet debates on how things are supposed to be said.

Khel (storm of swords/season 3 spoilers):
Spoiler:
Nah, she causes a ruckus in Qarth with Pyat Pree (the weird looking dude in the back with the rest of the thirteen) and rebuffs Xaro Xhoan Daxos so he tells her to f*** off. They head to Astapor and pick them up there.
01:34pm 25/04/12 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
12340 posts
Khel: Spoiler:
Later, you're thinking of Astapor
01:36pm 25/04/12 Permalink
Crakaveli
USA
6089 posts
Spoiler:
you're all a bunch of f*****s
02:18pm 25/04/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7802 posts
Khel:
Spoiler:
Qarth is where she goes into the house of the undying, sees all of the strange prophecy-like stuff, and has Drogon burn the place to the ground, making the warlocks very cranky.
02:33pm 25/04/12 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
640 posts
This thread needs more funny pics. I approve. When the gates open to the city, it does look very nice.
06:28pm 25/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5816 posts
Did anybody else feel that the whole Qarth casting felt a bit cheesy, for the otherwise exceptionally high quality so far?

I'll watch it religiously still, it just felt like stepping into Dinotopia a little.

Dinotopia was f*****g awesome though. After about one hour in when you could just endure the acting, or they got better due to seemingly filming in sequence or something.
06:49pm 25/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
18911 posts
Did you really just compare Game of Thrones to Dinotopia? I think your right to post in this thread should be revoked after that.
07:14pm 25/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5817 posts
Only to describe how much better it generally is. ;)
07:30pm 25/04/12 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
786 posts
11:43am 27/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15011 posts
there was a pretty funny GOT scene on south park last night.
12:07pm 27/04/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5833 posts
This?

12:12pm 27/04/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6795 posts
hah yeh.. i had a larf at mr.garrison teaching the class the hierarchy of game of thrones :p
04:25pm 27/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15017 posts
This?


yep
05:37pm 27/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15052 posts
renly's death was a bit of a let down. was expecting more.
10:15pm 30/04/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7825 posts
That's pretty much how it happened in the books. Really quick, except he had his throat slit (cutting through his steel gorget, which I guess is a bit more fantastic) rather than just stabbed.
10:29pm 30/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15053 posts
i thought the shadow went around killing lots of people before it got to renly. guess i'm remembering wrong.
10:31pm 30/04/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
18955 posts
Spoiler regarding book stuff which probably wont end up happening in the show anyway:

Spoiler:
I think there was multiple shadows summoned in the book wasn't there? Like, Renly is killed by the shadow assassin before you really know what it is. Then after that, the people in Storm's End wont give it over to Stannis, and thats when he gets Davos to smuggle Melisandre inside and birth the other shadow to kill everyone inside who was resisting.
11:19pm 30/04/12 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
7933 posts
More importantly, there was no boobs in this episode. Big let down.
11:26pm 30/04/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4740 posts
Khel:
Spoiler:
Yeah, I think they've squished some plot points together to save time. The parlay between Renly and Stannis was supposed to have Storm's End as a backdrop instead of just some bare cliffs, because Stannis is laying siege to the castle at the time.

From memory, Renly dies from a mysterious shadow creature first in Catelyn's POV and it comes as a massive surprise to everybody (including the reader) so she flees with Brienne, and then you find out through Davos' POV that it's Melisandre making shadow babies.

The one she gave birth to underneath Storms End was actually intended for the castellan in order to end the siege quickly. To make things worse he'll probably die off screen, making the point about why they needed to head into some underground grate to give birth to the creature that kills Renly in his camp somewhat confusing.

12:04am 01/05/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1501 posts
Yeah Dahzel called it, as:

BOOK SPOILER ALERT:

Spoiler:
The whole point of taking storms end was to get one of Roberts son's that's in there, who then ends up chilling with Stanis and his daughter. Though given they cut his daughter out, wonder if he's cut too?


12:09am 01/05/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1070 posts
Yes all the above are correct,I thought it was an epic show, all building up now for some more epicness in the next 5 epicsodes
06:21am 01/05/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6578 posts
the creepy cage guy was awesome, pwning c**** for arya. so subtly bad arse.

also looking forward to jon snow stabbing things.

nice to see bran's character being developed more. goes against my better nature of assuming anyone in this show will survive for long but I can see big things for the lad.

and as always, can't get enough of tyrion and bronn. f*** I hope bronn doesn't die for a while! prolly favourite character in the show.
06:33am 01/05/12 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
1964 posts
don't worry reload, they all die.
07:48am 01/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4742 posts
the creepy cage guy was awesome, pwning c**** for arya. so subtly bad arse.

That's Jaqen H'ghar, yeah he's awesome. :D
He's smart, but Arya's smarter...
07:52am 01/05/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6804 posts
awesome ep :) even tho i knew that the shadow was coming for renly it was surprising how quickly they got to it :] 5mins into the ep & another main character bites the dust :D

yep, that jaqen h'ghar dude is cool :] thought i guess coz he mentions worshipping the red god that he is not from westoros?
10:06am 01/05/12 Permalink
kappa
Brisbane, Queensland
1882 posts
the creepy cage guy was awesome, pwning c**** for arya. so subtly bad arse.

and as always, can't get enough of tyrion and bronn. f*** I hope bronn doesn't die for a while! prolly favourite character in the show.

Totally!
10:14am 01/05/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15054 posts
phwoar, dragonstone built in minecraft.



they've done a few others like castle black and the eyrie.
11:01am 01/05/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7826 posts
yep, that jaqen h'ghar dude is cool :] thought i guess coz he mentions worshipping the red god that he is not from westoros?

Yeah, he's from elsewhere, but he isn't a follower of R'hllor (the red god) in the books, so I think it's strange that he said what he did. I really hope they don't change that aspect of the story, because it becomes important later on in the books.

EDIT: Looks like I was mistaken, he does mention the Red God at that point in the books. Seems a bit strange.

last edited by Midda at 11:03:34 01/May/12
11:01am 01/05/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6609 posts
holy epic f*****g episode

so much awesomeness!

f*****g loveddddddd the scenes with theon being a horrible c***.. they have done a fantastic job of making him understandably conflicted but extremely hatable. can't wait to see if he gets what he deserves.

the riot scene was unreal, wish bronn had smoked a few peasents but dog kicking arse and taking names was a sound replacement.

also cage man coming through with the goods again. oh and the scene with baelish and tywin.. TENSE!

pretty much every scene was a massive win. the wildling f*****g with jon snow as they're going to sleep made me lol.

things are heating up big time. oh for a time machine til next ep.
06:08pm 07/05/12 Permalink
HERMITech
Brisbane, Queensland
7849 posts
Well, throw the books out the window, s*** just deviated so far from them after that last ep.
06:21pm 07/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4773 posts
Tens of thousands of Harry Potter fans just collectively spooged over Nymphadora Tonks.
06:25pm 07/05/12 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
1971 posts
Tens of thousands of Harry Potter fans just collectively spooged over Nymphadora Tonks.


does she get her kit off? why?
06:30pm 07/05/12 Permalink
kappa
Brisbane, Queensland
1885 posts
Another awesome episode.

But the wait between is getting painful.
06:37pm 07/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4774 posts
does she get her kit off? why?

Not in Harry Potter she doesn't, no.
06:44pm 07/05/12 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
671 posts
Yay more tits. Great episode, Damn John Snow is such a softc***, Could not even kill the wildling or have his way with her.
06:50pm 07/05/12 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
1973 posts
Not in Harry Potter she doesn't, no.


Remind me never to watch Harry Potter then : no tits = no dice.
06:53pm 07/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
18982 posts
Pretty awesome episode, loved the Hound disemboweling that guy.

But yeah, it seems to be starting to deviate a fair bit from the books :(
07:19pm 07/05/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15085 posts
Tens of thousands of Harry Potter fans just collectively spooged over Nymphadora Tonks.


she has a pretty nice body.



07:49pm 07/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4776 posts
Remind me never to watch Harry Potter then : no tits = no dice.


Spoiler: Hermione does go topless in the last one.
08:05pm 07/05/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7838 posts
The riot in King's Landing probably seemed a bit out of place for those who haven't read the books. I don't think they ever really made it clear just how poverty-stricken the common folk of King's Landing are in the show, or how much they hate the king and company. It was something that you could see coming a long way off in the books, but kind of seemed to come out of nowhere in the show.
08:30pm 07/05/12 Permalink
Tiny
Brisbane, Queensland
3248 posts
I am bout to hit episode 5 and 6 on TV now.

They really have made lots of events and plot points mash together to suit a TV show more. Having read the books though it does make the entire tv experience easier to follow. Or at least it feels that way, I am guessing people who haven't read the books would often be left scratching there heads.

Renlys wife is pretty smoking hot.
08:39pm 07/05/12 Permalink
Saint
Cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
3182 posts
Good ep, but as others have said it's starting to deviate a fair bit. I hope it doesn't deviate too much further :s
10:02pm 07/05/12 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
7948 posts
Wow, should be called "Loosely based on Game of Thrones" .. But +1 on Tonk TIttys!
10:24pm 07/05/12 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
2582 posts
That was probably the best episode this season, if it's deviating more from the books then I guess it's working or the books were s*** to begin with.
10:38pm 07/05/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15087 posts
best part of the episode

11:02pm 07/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4777 posts
Heh, Tyrion sure likes spanking the monarch in public.
Anyone else caught beating the little Baratheon would surely get thrown into the black cells.
11:31pm 07/05/12 Permalink
FraktuRe
Gold Coast, Queensland
4209 posts
I think I see what they're doing at the end there with the dragons, since I imagine that when Daenery's goes to see the warlock dudes that wouldn't have translated to tv well at all.
11:43pm 07/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
18985 posts
The dragons bit I can live with, but they've totally f***ed around with the stuff at Winterfell and killed Ser Rodrik Cassell in a pretty s*** way which now means a whole bunch of other cool stuff isn't going to happen.

Spoiler:
One of my favourite bits was when Ser Rodrik is outside Winterfell with his men, laying siege to it, and the Boltons come and he thinks hes being reinforced and instead gets cut to pieces. That would have been such a better twist and such a better way for him to go out, but now they've pretty much killed the chance of that scene happening.


Jon Snow's stuff is diverging pretty rapidly too, dunno what direction they're going to go in with that either. Spoiler:
Is he going to end up fake-joining the wildlings to survive because hes stuck out in the mountains and can't find Qhorin Halfhand? And if so, does that mean we don't get the awesome duel between him and Qhorin Halfhand? Because that would suck
11:52pm 07/05/12 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
7949 posts
And in addition to Khel's spoiler

Spoiler:

wtf happened to the kids who go with Titty Tonks, Bran and Rickon - there is an entire sub plot gone without those two kids



W.T.F!@?!@
12:04am 08/05/12 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
7950 posts
Also this;

http://i.imgur.com/hSIuy.jpg

I said to wifey, goddamn Ygritte's a hotty - that wasn't supposed to happen!
12:06am 08/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4778 posts
I reckon the plot lines will sort themselves out, if we have some faith in GRRM guiding the series where it needs to go. If it diverges too far it'll cause them too many problems later. I still wouldn't rule out the sequence of events that everyone was expecting to play out for Jon Snow and Bran Stark in the near future.

Also, yeah out there in the frozen mountains Ygritte seems to have a great wildling dental care plan.
12:45am 08/05/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5901 posts
The riot in King's Landing probably seemed a bit out of place for those who haven't read the books. I don't think they ever really made it clear just how poverty-stricken the common folk of King's Landing are in the show, or how much they hate the king and company.

It was inferable.

Or at least it feels that way, I am guessing people who haven't read the books would often be left scratching there heads.

So far it's all making sense, though doesn't seem as compelling as season one tbh (it feels like everything has remained fairly static for awhile, and things like the aria/bastard teamup, and then the aria/lanister recruitment, are way too convenient).


The wildling supermodel casting definitely cheapens the scenes, wish they wouldn't do that. Though the dathraki were always too clean as well.
01:00am 08/05/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2622 posts
http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-old-gods-and-the-new-for-experts%2C73410/

good read for people who have read the books. talks about the deviations this episode has taken.
01:47am 08/05/12 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
1003 posts
... or how much they hate the king and company. It was something that you could see coming a long way off in the books, but kind of seemed to come out of nowhere in the show

As Nerfy said it's fairly heavily hinted at (and the seeds sewn (no pun intended) when it's discussed earlier how little grain the capitol has for the coming winter in an earlier ep)

I quite like the character development for 'The Hound', he's pretty much my pick for 'Best Anti-hero' for Season 2 thus far.
I like the way his affection/caring for Sansa is developing, sure he's not the 'whitest knight' but as that scene showed, he sure knows how to dispatch some fools. (I quite liked the touch of him not killing the 'witness' to his work... that actor had the 'holy f*** what just happened' face NAILED)

I presume the 'Kings guard with a beard' (the one who carried the king out of the riot) is supposed to be 'The Mountain'?

Also, yeah out there in the frozen mountains Ygritte seems to have a great wildling dental care plan.

Whilst I lol'd at this line, and to some extent agree with the 'ok, not a 'wildling' as such' I'm ok with it because the sharp lines of her face match the cunning she's portraying on screen. Also, who doesn't wanna catch a glimpse of what's under the 'wildling getup' she's sporting. (made that scene reload! was talking about (Jon trying to sleep) f***** brilliant)

... though doesn't seem as compelling as season one tbh ...

I couldn't agree more mate, I was just thinking the same at the end of episode 6. The end of this season is setting up to be a doozy tho.
01:53am 08/05/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2623 posts
I presume the 'Kings guard with a beard' (the one who carried the king out of the riot) is supposed to be 'The Mountain'?


No, the mountain was last seen in Harrenhal.
02:13am 08/05/12 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
1004 posts
I took plenty from it (without reading the section labelled 'spoilers') as a fan of cinema.

(It's a decent insight to the choices faced when turning a books pages into cinemas' frames.)
03:33am 08/05/12 Permalink
BlueWolf
Brisbane, Queensland
12 posts
On the matter of what caused the riot, it was previously mentioned by Tyrion that the people were starving and that they were against the king. Might have been the last episode or the one previous to that.

Haven't read the books, so I only go on what I've seen.

Dangling guts ftw!
06:16am 08/05/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6816 posts
tense episode :D

kinda disappointed they didn't include a scene with catlyn telling robb about the fkn shadow... instead she's all like 'now now robb stop eye humping the camp nurse, you gotta marry some inbred mutant remember!'. not like 'oh btw... a mthr fkn magic shadow man stabbed renly baratheon with a friggn ghost knife right in front of me just as i agreed to an aliiance with him!!!' ;)

the cleanliness of the new wildling chick did stand out... not just her good dental work but also the clean face & perfect makeup :/ the other wildling chick that humped theron greyjoy was done much better.. she hardly even looked female at first but cleaned up real nice :)

now another week to wait :(
09:17am 08/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4779 posts
Ser Rodrik losing his head is much more visceral than some minor character that we don't care about losing his head I reckon. There's still plenty of storytelling room to move for what's next to come.

I'm ok with it because the sharp lines of her face match the cunning she's portraying

Yeah, I have no real problem with the casting. When she gets her kit off no-one will be complaining. What I did have a problem with, was that by refusing to utter the line she's most famous for she managed to tease a section of the audience just as much as she teased Jon.
09:40am 08/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
18986 posts
I presume the 'Kings guard with a beard' (the one who carried the king out of the riot) is supposed to be 'The Mountain'?


Thats Ser Meryn Trant, he hasn't been used in the show much, but hes a complete c*** too, he suits Joffrey well. Theres a number of scenes in the book where Joffrey orders him to slap Sansa or beat her, and he quite enjoys it.
09:50am 08/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4780 posts
Yeah Ser Meryn Trant was also the one that went to collect Arya when the business in the throne room with Ned and the City Watch went down. He's an all round nasty dude.
10:14am 08/05/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7839 posts
I only just realised after reading Ticman's post that Meera and Jojen Reed are completely absent. What the f***, that's a huge omission. They're the entire driving force behind the rest of Bran's story. Are they just going to run into them now that they've fled Winterfell? Seems a bit dumb.
10:56am 08/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
18987 posts
I got the impression that most of the direction that would have come from them, will come from the wildling chick Osha instead, but then I dunno what they'll do with Rickon if thats the case.
11:02am 08/05/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1093 posts
Season three perhaps for the reeds? Season 2 is very much battle of Blackwater

Spoiler:
Maybe they meet the Reeds running around the forest, they will definitely need them in Season three they pretty much set Bran up for going over/under the wall.


I'm not too upset with how they have deviated from the books slightly, there are sooo many characters in the books who aren't even around for long I have enough trouble trying to keep up at times. I think the show is still awesome and they haven't ruined anything yet.
11:53am 08/05/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1513 posts

I just caught up on eps 5 and 6. Thought they were pretty good all round.

Regarding the book plot deviations, I tend to agree with the views in the blog post csirac mentioned, don't worry it has spoiler tags.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-old-gods-and-the-new-for-experts%2C73410/

Whilst they deviate slightly, it still has the core themes and emotions, it doesn't feel like that much of a deviation and makes it a bit more interesting!

I actually teared up a bit when Rodrick got axed, I'm also totally starting to sympathise more with Sansa (After hating her character). Actually read an interesting interview with Sansa's actress which revealed a lot to me about Sansa's character type and how she evolves.

10:36pm 08/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
18994 posts
But as the story has grown more muscular, the series has as well, and nearly every scene now shows, rather than tells. It’s the oldest lesson in cinematic storytelling, but it’s one too many series forget, and I’m glad this one hasn’t. It’s one of the reasons this season has so much more momentum. What tells you more about how Theon’s unfit to rule: Maester Luwin saying he’s unfit to rule or Theon being unable to chop off Rodrik’s head with a single stroke?


Thats pretty true. Even my brother commented after that scene he was like "Theon is s***, Ned Stark can do that in one swing"
10:57pm 08/05/12 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
7952 posts

refusing to utter the line she's most famous


It was killing me waiting for her to say it and then nothing!! Just some ass wiggling (which was OK too).
11:06pm 08/05/12 Permalink
Scooter
Brisbane, Queensland
5843 posts
Now that everyone should have enough time to watch the ep... What was the Line you were all waiting for the Sexy Wildling to utter?
08:35pm 10/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4790 posts
Scooter:
Spoiler:
The basic purpose of Ygritte's character is to chart Jon's journey out of naivety and into maturity:
"You know nothing, Jon Snow"

08:48pm 10/05/12 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
681 posts
Just so I'm clear, What was the hot red head doing when she and Jon were lying on the ground. She was wriggling around. Trying to get a rocket in his pocket? At first I though she may have been trying to move her hands/arms back up her sleeve to try and get free or something.
03:03pm 11/05/12 Permalink
Tiny
Brisbane, Queensland
3257 posts
I don't recall this ever happening in the book BladeRunner. I think the sexual connotations in that scene were conjured up for the viewers pleasure given they cast an attractive redhead in her place.
03:05pm 11/05/12 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
885 posts
Just so I'm clear, What was the hot red head doing when she and Jon were lying on the ground. She was wriggling around. Trying to get a rocket in his pocket? At first I though she may have been trying to move her hands/arms back up her sleeve to try and get free or something.



Messing with him, Crows are supposed to be celibate.
03:38pm 11/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4800 posts
Messing with him, Crows are supposed to be celibate.


She was messing with him, but celibacy isn't strictly enforced.
The oath is simply: "take no wife, hold no lands and father no children".

There's multiple references to members of the Night's Watch nipping down to Mole's Town for a bit of unofficial R&R in the brothel.
05:14pm 11/05/12 Permalink
kappa
Brisbane, Queensland
1888 posts
Bump ... it's that time again. Only reason to love Mondays.
02:54pm 14/05/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6641 posts
woooop woop

ok ep, not as good as last week. was good to see jamie lannister again.

don't believe theon found the stark kids, burnt some peasents instead.

although knowing this show he really did find them and really did burn them :/
05:09pm 14/05/12 Permalink
foolix
Brisbane, Queensland
137 posts
next ep out..

Has anyone found a massive family tree yet? I thought someone would have made a decent one by now
05:55pm 14/05/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15122 posts
06:55pm 14/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4822 posts
ok ep, not as good as last week. was good to see jamie lannister again.

Yeah, agreed on both points.
The Targaryen plot thread is doing loop-de-doodles outside of where people expected it to be, and the Winterfell bit at the end felt a little forced. But hey, the last few episodes are expected to be epic!
08:39pm 14/05/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1114 posts
Yeah not the best episode, but setting it all up for the next couple to come, can't believe there are only a few episodes left :(
09:37pm 14/05/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15124 posts
3 to be precise.
09:41pm 14/05/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7851 posts
They're leaving the books further and further in the dust behind them. I'm getting a bit worried about a lot of these changes they're making.
10:16pm 14/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4823 posts
Yep, though because events are unfolding somewhat differently, it's interesting. Now I wonder if viewers will start to form different impressions of the characters and their motivations than readers.

Some bits seem to be coming back together and some bits are flying apart. I was wondering a while ago when they'd show Rickard Karstark all fired up because there wasn't any mention of him or his sons killed in the earlier battle.
11:07pm 14/05/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2637 posts
Bring on the Blackwater episode!
11:16pm 14/05/12 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
686 posts
I am glad I never read all the books cause I think I would be annoyed at them deviating from it. Not a bad episode, Next week should be awesome though.
11:22pm 14/05/12 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
1010 posts
I'm still digging the sequences with Arya and Tywin.

Was also good to see the development (or breakdown I guess) of 'The Hound' and Sansa.

It's kinda hard to say the Targaryen plot is doing loop de loops.... it's f***** stuck in the mud; and getting messier the longer they remain in 'Qarth the greatest city that ever was or will be'.

The bottom line is, episode 7 was an excellent exercise in prick teasing to set up the finish of season 2.

Are all the pieces in place yet?

EDIT: Fixed 'Qarth' (I knew I'd missed it's actual spelling... cheers)
02:11am 15/05/12 Permalink
mission
Brisbane, Queensland
8502 posts
I've only just started watching season one. I'm usually not into the whole medi-evil type movies/shows with horses, swords and the like but I'll persist on this.

One the plus side there has been plenty of doggy style action so far.
07:11am 15/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4825 posts
Carth the greatest...


http://i.imgur.com/R6EpL.jpg
Qarth
09:24am 15/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19033 posts
Theres something awesomely weird and creepy about the way the warlock guy says "Mother of Dragons" that I just can't get enough of.
09:40am 15/05/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6827 posts
yeh that warlock dude is creepy.. well cast! :D

i have almost caught up to where the tv series is at with reading the books. i am going to purposely stay behind the tv show to make it more enjoyable & surprising for myself :) lots of times whilst reading the book i have seen a small omission & thought it would have been better if they had stuck closer to the book... but later could see the reason why they made the omission in the tv script. i am really enjoying reading the books after watching the show... it puts faces in my imagination :D

i re-watched s02e06 last night before watching ep7 & one bit really jumped out at me that i didn't really notice the first time. during the scene where the mob is attacking the king's party & the hound goes out to look for sansa... this bald dude runs up to the hound n hits him on the breastplate with a stone.. it's hilarious :D the hound just pushes him against the wall n stabs him :p
09:57am 15/05/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5946 posts
Can anybody clear up regarding the end of the latest episode -

Spoiler:
Theon actually only burned the orphans right?


edit: Nvm, checked a book wiki.
10:45am 15/05/12 Permalink
FraktuRe
Gold Coast, Queensland
4221 posts
Spoiler:
Nope, he killed the stark boys
10:49am 15/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4828 posts
Nerfy: who the hell knows anymore? They seem to be going off on their own with respect to the story.
10:51am 15/05/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5947 posts
Wat, frak me Frak

Spoiler:
the wiki made it sound like... s***, really?
10:56am 15/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19037 posts
I've stopped really worrying about how its deviating from the books, just enjoying the show and interested to see how their telling of the story turns out.
11:02am 15/05/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2641 posts
frakture is f*****g with you nerfy :P
11:47am 15/05/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6648 posts
in either case, it is just building more and more reason for Theon to get his arse handed to him by Rob.. just a matter of how much. They're really doing an excellent job of making you hate him. I know I do.
11:49am 15/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4829 posts
Theon is never really a likeable character. Now he's just revealing the large stupid streak of his character as well.
Stupid and unlikeable is a perilous combo.
12:29pm 15/05/12 Permalink
mission
Brisbane, Queensland
8504 posts
Not really a spoiler as I'm referring to season one, but who is the dude boning the king's wife? Up in the tower that the kid witnesses... I kind of missed who (and what relationship) the boner dude is, kind of a pretty boy?
01:31pm 15/05/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6655 posts
Jamie Lannister. The chick he's boning is his sister the queen, Cersei.
01:32pm 15/05/12 Permalink
mission
Brisbane, Queensland
8505 posts
Oh I thought that was the queen (up in the tower and the dude pushes the kid off).

So if that's the queens sister, what relationship is the guy that pushes the kid?

I really should have paid more attention, or maybe I'm just a bit slow....
01:38pm 15/05/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2643 posts
you missunderstood what reload meant

The guy is Jamie Lannister
The woman he was f*****g is Cercei Lannister (THE Queen)

They are brother and sister (in fact, they're twins)
01:40pm 15/05/12 Permalink
mission
Brisbane, Queensland
8506 posts
Oh I see, now I re-read it :)

So Jamie is like the brother in-law to the King?

I must just be a bit slow heh

I'll watch another ep or two tonight

last edited by mission at 13:46:30 15/May/12
01:45pm 15/05/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6656 posts
lol, mission. if you want to enjoy the show you kinda have to pay attention to what's going on. I suppose it is enjoyable just for the classic HBO titties and violence, but the story is really the best part.
01:46pm 15/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4831 posts
and the...


http://i.imgur.com/kpTtT.gif

Hehe, to be fair to csirac:
mission's probably going to see much worse spoilers in a thread entitled 'Game of Thrones Season 2'
01:47pm 15/05/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7853 posts
Good job on that spoiler there, csirac.
01:52pm 15/05/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2644 posts
oo guess he hasnt watched it up to that point. hmmm ill edit
01:57pm 15/05/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7854 posts
Hehe, to be fair to csirac:
mission's probably going to see much worse spoilers in a thread entitled 'Game of Thrones Season 2'

Yeah, he's got balls coming into this thread. Hell, even the people who are up-to-date with the show are at risk of spoilers in this thread. :P
02:21pm 15/05/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9123 posts
Spoilers for next episode.

07:54pm 16/05/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9124 posts
Also, stop f*****g posting spoilers from the books you twats. If you want to discuss the books make a separate thread. This is about the show, for those of us who haven't read the books.

I think a book thread would be an excellent idea.
08:22pm 16/05/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7859 posts
The spoilers from the books are clearly marked as such, so what's the problem?
08:28pm 16/05/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9126 posts
It clutters the thread and some people still discuss it openly. I don't want to stumble on some major spoiler in here. It makes sense to have a separate discussion.
09:25pm 16/05/12 Permalink
IncrEdible_vEgetable
Brisbane, Queensland
2065 posts
09:50pm 16/05/12 Permalink
IncrEdible_vEgetable
Brisbane, Queensland
2066 posts
Also this has some mildly amusing comments/character descriptions (new thread with updated info for each ep):http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3482977

10:16pm 16/05/12 Permalink
Creepy
USA
1930 posts
I thought I'd lost this thread.

Anyways, I don't think I've ever heard the word c*nt so many times in one hour...much less from a tv show. :)
01:14pm 22/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4861 posts
Indeed, I thought the censors across the pond get their nose out of joint with such language warping the minds of precious television viewers.
01:18pm 22/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19092 posts
Haha, my brother commented on that too, first thing he casually noted after the episode was over, "Lot of c*** in that tonight hey".

Was hoping for more Jamie Lannister though, why do they tease me so :( At least it looks like Jon Snow's story is mostly back on track and we're not going to miss out on a scene I was really looking forward to.
01:28pm 22/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4863 posts
Qhorin Halfhand has hair! Last ep he had a cap on the entire time and this ep he turned up looking like Richard Gere.
I had to check whether it was the same dude.
01:31pm 22/05/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6834 posts
halfhand is totally different in the tv show to how he is described in the books. he is supposed to be very tall, solemn with long hair.

it's a bit weird the way they blended bran with jojen & seemed to have removed jojen & meera's characters completely. :/

i am guessing that the chick that robb is humping is not even in the book? i am just behind s02e07 in the books & there is no mention of her. also the whole scene seems out of place with the rest of the show.
01:50pm 22/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4864 posts
Nah she is in the books (more or less), but you don't really see any of it since Robb isn't a POV character. He goes off to fight some battles and returns to Riverrun with her so she just appears out of nowhere.
01:57pm 22/05/12 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
12436 posts
Don't worry about Robb's weird behaviour, it will sort itself out!
02:00pm 22/05/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15162 posts
looks like next weeks ep is going to be all about the battle of the blackwater.

02:09pm 22/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4865 posts
Hogfather, you're obviously referring to Robb's latent symphorophilia tendencies.
The first time he got that look in his eyes she was sawing some blokes leg off and the second time he got hot over her telling the story of her brother near drowning.
02:17pm 22/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19094 posts
Oh yeah, thats another thing thats missing that disappointed me a bit, what about Tyrion's giant chain!
02:48pm 22/05/12 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
902 posts
I just learned a new word!
02:48pm 22/05/12 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
694 posts
That preview looks awesome. Stupid waiting.
06:07pm 22/05/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7867 posts
It clutters the thread and some people still discuss it openly. I don't want to stumble on some major spoiler in here. It makes sense to have a separate discussion.

Nobody would post in such a thread, because the book spoilers posted here are always in relation to the latest events of the TV show, so it's entirely relevant. You can either read the books, be more careful about reading spoilers, or stop complaining. Besides, I haven't seen any book spoilers in here that weren't in spoiler tags.
07:22pm 22/05/12 Permalink
IncrEdible_vEgetable
Brisbane, Queensland
2073 posts
Is anyone else getting a bit sick of Daenerys Targaryen and her persistent whinging and tantrums about being the "mother of dragons"?

I take it all this indignant ranting and pacing about leads to some sort of real effectual action befitting of such a key player, but right now she seems to be kind of a spoilt brat.

Typical. How's the old saying go? No matter how hot you think she is, there's some guy who's just about had enough of her s***. Jorah Mormont is surely winding up for an epic backhander in the not too distant future.
10:46pm 22/05/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6749 posts
yeah, all the Daenerys scenes have become massively yawn worthy since she stopped getting her tits out.
10:54pm 22/05/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9156 posts
It mainly sucks because Khal Drogo is gone.
10:55pm 22/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19107 posts
Yeah, was just saying to Saint earlier today, her story is sooooooo drawn out and dull, I don't hold much hope for it picking up this season, but hopefully when they move onto her stuff from the third book next season it picks up pace.
11:05pm 22/05/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1125 posts
Oh yeah, thats another thing thats missing that disappointed me a bit, what about Tyrion's giant chain!


Yeah I've just assumed it will show up in the TV show people will understand what it is without the explaination.

Yeah, was just saying to Saint earlier today, her story is sooooooo drawn out and dull, I don't hold much hope for it picking up this season, but hopefully when they move onto her stuff from the third book next season it picks up pace.


Her story in Book 2 was pretty dull in it's own right.

Nah she is in the books (more or less), but you don't really see any of it since Robb isn't a POV character. He goes off to fight some battles and returns to Riverrun with her so she just appears out of nowhere.


I feel they spent too much time on Robbs love scene, it's boring I wonder if they just threw it in to keep the lady watchers happy.

Cersei is pissing me off even more in the TV show than in the books, I loved that last line Tyrion spits out at her and she has that smirk.

Spoiler:
Just wait until Season 4 b****, just wait until season 4
10:50am 23/05/12 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
12439 posts
Yeah, was just saying to Saint earlier today, her story is sooooooo drawn out and dull, I don't hold much hope for it picking up this season, but hopefully when they move onto her stuff from the third book next season it picks up pace.

Yeh Astapor is where i's at for Daenerys!
I feel they spent too much time on Robbs love scene, it's boring I wonder if they just threw it in to keep the lady watchers happy.

Having read the books though you'd have to agree that this relationship is absolutely essential to the plot? Would kind of make no sense if they dealt with it in an offhand kind of way, his motivations are wacky to begin with, if they treated it without gravitas then lots of the big s*** next season just wouldn't work properly.

(Hopefully that's not too spoilerific, skirting the edges here...)
10:57am 23/05/12 Permalink
greazy
Brisbane, Queensland
5363 posts
I just started following this thread. Just as long as people don't do something like this:

"I can't wait for Spoiler:
AWESOME S*** TO GO DOWN.


They didn't do the death scene of the two little boys very well. Spoiler:
It was no surprise that they were alive and that they just took two little boys from the farm and killed them, which was why they were burnt
11:44am 23/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4868 posts
I feel they spent too much time on Robbs love scene

Fair enough, but after she nuded up I felt they spent not enough time on that love scene. :P

yeah, all the Daenerys scenes have become massively yawn worthy since she stopped getting her tits out.

Stick with the Daenerys storyline, it gets so much better than this (tits or not). They must have a cash strapped B unit shooting the Essos scenes, because last season I agreed with complaints that I heard from workmates about the production values not feeling anywhere near as good as the Westeros scenes.
11:51am 23/05/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6836 posts
Jorah Mormont is surely winding up for an epic backhander in the not too distant future.

hahah rekn! :D

daenerys's scenes need more dragons :p

the whole show could do with more cool cgi... they shoulda done old bear's raven as cgi (instead of just leaving it out completely).

the scene where cersei thinks she has tyrion's whore is epic :D tyrion totally owns it once again :D

now more stupid waiting @!$!
12:14pm 23/05/12 Permalink
Twisted
Brisbane, Queensland
11661 posts

I hope they continue to deviate from the books story line. The books IMO go on to be quite boring and almost a bit Wheel of Time in how stuffs gets stretched out. So far the show has been pretty good this season, maybe a little bit slow at times for a TV show.
Anyways, I don't think I've ever heard the word c*nt so many times in one hour...much less from a tv show. :)
Mustn't have watched Deadwood :p
01:54pm 23/05/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9161 posts
http://delimiter.com.au/2012/05/22/australia-top-game-of-thrones-pirating-nation/

According to TorrentFreak’s analysis, currently more illegal downloads of Game of Thrones take place in Australia than in any other country of the world — including the US, which has a population of 313 million, compared with just 23 million in Australia. Currently, some 10.1 percent of Game of Thrones downloads originate in Australia, the website wrote, compared with 9.7 percent in the US, 7.7 percent in Canada and 7.6 percent in the United Kingdom. Some 3 percent — or 90,000 — downloads take place in Sydney alone, with an additional 2.9 percent taking place in Melbourne.
05:56pm 23/05/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6753 posts
winners!
06:28pm 23/05/12 Permalink
FraktuRe
Gold Coast, Queensland
4235 posts
Clearly Australians have taken to them using the word c*** so much.
06:50pm 23/05/12 Permalink
Crakaveli
USA
6110 posts
or don't feel like waiting a month or two to watch it.
07:08pm 23/05/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6771 posts
epic episode was epic

from the hound, "Any man dies with a clean sword, I'll rape his f*****g corpse!" made me lol
04:28pm 28/05/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6843 posts
hmph that blackwater battle lacked the epicness & really changed the story around :| no chain!? stannis leading the charge? no ship bridge, etc...
tyrion just copping a slice on the cheek was especially poor given how he cops it hard in the books.
rarararar grumble b**** moan, i knew i should have stayed behind the tv series in the books but train journeys are boring :(
04:39pm 28/05/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5986 posts
Sweet jebus at that episode.

The credit for writer on that episode was actually the author of the book, so I wouldn't worry too much about them changing things. Within the limits of what they could do, that was amazing.
06:19pm 28/05/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9179 posts
Spoiler:
I don't understand why the King's Guardsman turned on Tyrion.


last edited by Jim at 00:44:43 29/May/12
06:28pm 28/05/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5987 posts
^ Ep 9 spoiler - I presumed that he either hated him, or the king ordered tyrion to have an 'accident' on the field...
06:31pm 28/05/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15204 posts
damn awesome episode
06:53pm 28/05/12 Permalink
Zoidberg
Brisbane, Queensland
76 posts
You're really going to b**** about that episode demon? Have a little think about how f*****g expensive the books battle would have been to film. I'm grateful that we got a battle at all, let alone such and awesome one.
The original plan was for the entire episode to take place in the Keep with Cersie and Sansa with only reports of the battles progression. Thank god HBO was convinced to pony up more cash, and Neil Marshall (Centurion and the Descent) was available to work magic with low budgets
07:03pm 28/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4884 posts
tyrion just copping a slice on the cheek was especially poor given how he cops it hard in the books

Yeah, it wasn't too bad though. I had a feeling they'd cop out with it but I reckon they made the right choice.
If Tyrion lost his entire nose like in the books Peter Dinklage would be shafted with some epic prosthetic makeup hours and/or they'd be up for some ongoing CGI costing loads of moola.
07:33pm 28/05/12 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
2630 posts
tyrion just copping a slice on the cheek was especially poor given how he cops it hard in the books.
The cut went right across his head, from forehead to cheek and through the nose.
07:40pm 28/05/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6772 posts
bronn kicking arse as usual.
also another awesome hound line, "eat s***, dwarf."
07:43pm 28/05/12 Permalink
assag
Brisbane, Queensland
38 posts
That was the best hour of television i have ever seen! amazing!
07:44pm 28/05/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15205 posts
The cut went right across his head, from forehead to cheek and through the nose.


yeah at first i thought it was just the cheek, but you can see a faint line of bloody running across his whole face.
07:49pm 28/05/12 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
704 posts
Was a good episode, Having not read the books I wanted the keep to fall.
07:57pm 28/05/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5988 posts
07:58pm 28/05/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15206 posts
hahaha

08:27pm 28/05/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7879 posts
Yeah, it was a bit different from the books, but whatever, it was still a pretty awesome battle. They did pretty damn well.

Did they ever explain in the show that The Hound is scared of fire? I feel that some people might have been left confused when he gets scared all of a sudden in the middle of the fight, because I don't recall them ever really mentioning it in the show.
09:35pm 28/05/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15207 posts
they mentioned how his brother burned in face.
09:38pm 28/05/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5989 posts
Yeah I think they said that he was pushed into the fire, but that episode all came together so well, they were building up to his fear of fire right throughout.
09:42pm 28/05/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15208 posts
you could see the fear on his face when they blew up all the ships.
09:47pm 28/05/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7880 posts
Right, so I guess they suggested it... Still, I would have thought they'd actually clarify that a bit more prior to the episode.

I just read that the episode was apparently written by GRRM himself, so I guess that helps explain how they managed to execute it so well.
09:52pm 28/05/12 Permalink
Bah
Brisbane, Queensland
4708 posts
you could see the fear on his face when they blew up all the ships.
I at first read that as "holy s*** i thought i was good at killing, but THIS is killing", but when the flaming guy came at him it clicked when thinking of the scar on his face.
10:02pm 28/05/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5990 posts
He mentioned the fire arrows not going near him as well. There may have even been other stuff, because it seem really heavily implied to me (not overly so, just very clear that he didn't like fire, linked to his face wound).

Though it may just be due to a prince zuko/hound crossover meme which I saw yesterday. >_>
10:06pm 28/05/12 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8009 posts
Was a great episode I thought. Part of me was hanging out to see that they changed the story line significantly enough

Spoiler:
to see Stannis win!@


Explosion was epic too.
10:06pm 28/05/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5991 posts
The one part which confused me was the stag-helmet attacker at the end. Apparently (for those who haven't read the books) it was the flower-knight guy wearing renley's armour, which was supposed to be some epically terrifying moment for stannis' troops.
10:10pm 28/05/12 Permalink
Mantorok
Brisbane, Queensland
6482 posts
Did they ever explain in the show that The Hound is scared of fire?
Wasn't that explained in Season 1? Pretty sure Littlefinger told Sansa about The Mountain and The Hound.
10:16pm 28/05/12 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
2631 posts
It's episodes like this that make me really glad I haven't read the books. I didn't have a clue who would win that battle, who would die and who would live and it kept me guessing the entire time. When Bron and the Hound were facing off I was thinking, holy s*** is it about to get epic?

It didn't, but the suspense was still pretty awesome.
10:27pm 28/05/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1133 posts
I don't understand why the King's Guardsman turned on Tyrion.

You'll found out in either episode 10 or Season 3 some mysteries are left unsolved.
10:32pm 28/05/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5992 posts
Yeah, they really played up the characters on both sides so that there was no way to know who was going to come out on top. It didn't seem like both the guy and his son on the boat could die, so the explosion wouldn't be that big, and then, bam.
10:32pm 28/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19154 posts
That was f*****g AWESOME. Haha, and so violent, so many people getting carved in half or bits cut off them.

The one part which confused me was the stag-helmet attacker at the end. Apparently (for those who haven't read the books) it was the flower-knight guy wearing renley's armour, which was supposed to be some epically terrifying moment for stannis' troops.


Yeah, was a bit disappointing they glossed over that, it was a big thing in the book cos he shows up looking like Renly and everyone is like "OMFG Renly is back from the dead! How can this be!" But meh, not a big deal, and probably doesn't even matter to anyone who hasn't read the books.

He mentioned the fire arrows not going near him as well. There may have even been other stuff, because it seem really heavily implied to me (not overly so, just very clear that he didn't like fire, linked to his face wound).


Yeah, there was also a bit earlier where a guy with a burning torch walks a bit too close to the Hound and he jerks away from the fire, that was the first sort of hint that I noticed, but I thought they built it up really well. And really it was good acting from the guy who plays the Hound that sold it, with him getting that real haunted "Oh f*** this" look in his eyes when hes seeing all the fire.

Also was awesome that the whole episode focused on the one storyline and never cut away, it really kept the tension high and gave them enough time to put together a truly epic battle.
11:03pm 28/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19156 posts
yeah at first i thought it was just the cheek, but you can see a faint line of bloody running across his whole face.


I don't mind that they changed that, it makes sense cos its probably not the best move to have a main character that is nauseating to look at for the rest of the series. The thing that was a bit stuupid though was they turned his injury into what looked like a relatively minor cut accross the face, yet he still acted like he had been mortally wounded and was dying (as would have been in line with the injury he copped in the books). Just seemed like a massive over-reaction to a relatively shallow cut accross the face.
11:17pm 28/05/12 Permalink
XaartaX
Adelaide, South Australia
478 posts
Who was the kid with the queen in the final scene? You see him earlier in the women's room. Also is the reason the queen called the king back to her explained later?
11:27pm 28/05/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6774 posts
that's her other son. and I assume she called the king back because she knew he would get slaughtered.

tywin lannister looked pretty boss when he struts into the throne room at the end. it's a shame the rest of the lannisters are such unlikeable c****, because tywin is pretty cool. with the exception of tyrion of course. it's funny actually that his hated imp son is the most useful and the promising one, jamie, is a talented d******* that roots his sister and starts wars.

last edited by reload! at 23:47:10 28/May/12
11:40pm 28/05/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5993 posts
Cersei had 3 kids, that was the king's little brother.

Tyrion seemed perhaps dazed from the hit, plus losing blood, so it seemed ok. To be honest I thought that he might be dead, until you guys said that they probably did it to avoid having to somehow hide his nose from then on.
11:40pm 28/05/12 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
705 posts
My guess would be that the Queen ordered the gold cloaks to kill Tyrion if they got a chance on the field of battle. I assume she she still has her nickers in a knot over him sending her daughter away. I liked the green fire too and the hound is a cool guy.
03:08am 29/05/12 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
1035 posts
LOL Nerfy, that strip is AWESOME.

It was a thrilling episode no doubt.
Good to see some of the development around kings landing finalized.

This episode has given a good indication of what they'll 'skip over' in ep 10 (and thus leave for Season 3).

It'll be interesting to see what becomes of the Hound... the Lannisters won't be too keen to welcome him back into court anytime soon.
I'm also curious as to what will happen to 'Stannis choice' for the kings hand. He got sent as the ships went up, but he's readily retrievable as a character. (and another thing... where did the red b**** go? she's gonna sit just out side of kings landing poisoning/scaring the f*** out of the 'establishment' coz she's not made an appearance since dealing with Renly...)
03:37am 29/05/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9184 posts
Davos (Stannis' Hand) told him to leave her behind or it would be her victory, and Stannis agreed.

Also I just discovered Grand Maester Pycelle is the bad guy from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (and the Imperial who leads the attack on Hoth)!

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002103/
08:38am 29/05/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6844 posts
ok perhaps i was little harsh in my criticisms :) in my defense i had just read that section of the books the day before & the details were fresh in my mind. so whereas in the books tyrion's trick is awesome & subtle.. in the tv show it was a bit too obvious. but it all came together sorta the same i guess :p

also, tyrion's cut on the face was ok... got the nose n all... but in the books he was hit heaps of times by stannis's men before the whiteguard betrayed him. he was also shot with an arrow.
I don't mind that they changed that, it makes sense cos its probably not the best move to have a main character that is nauseating to look at for the rest of the series.

tbh i'd preferred it if tyrion was the proper horror with mismatched eyes n all :D n after blackwater, half a nose & a missing chunk of lip.

also... what was with the queen punching lancel on the chest & him going down like a squealing girl? did she stab him or something? coz prior to that he copped an arrow in the chest n was like "pout! imma go tell the queen!' lols
09:05am 29/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19158 posts
I assumed it was cos she punched the spot where the arrow went in

jamie, is a talented d******* that roots his sister and starts wars.


He becomes awesome as the series goes on, should be a lot of great Jamie stuff in the 3rd series, cos by the end of the 3rd book he was one of my favourite characters.
10:27am 29/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4885 posts
He becomes awesome as the series goes on, should be a lot of great Jamie stuff in the 3rd series, cos by the end of the 3rd book he was one of my favourite characters.

This.

jamie, is a talented d******* that roots his sister and starts wars

When does Jaime have time to start a war? He's been sitting in a filthy cell ever since he attempted to finish the one Catelyn and Ned Stark started.
10:47am 29/05/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6776 posts
I blame jamie for it since he shoved bran outta the tower and fathering the false king joffrey, which sends ned on his unfortunate course. I guess really it's more cersei's fault since she made all the really s***** decisions, jamie just had to go along with it. shoulda kept his pimp hand strong though, so still partially at fault.
11:02am 29/05/12 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
12511 posts
When does Jaime have time to start a war? He's been sitting in a filthy cell ever since he attempted to finish the one Catelyn and Ned Stark started.

That war was started by Joffrey straight up. You don't f*****g kill the head of one of the families without a war coming from it, even the Lannisters were spewing; nobody was marching until that event. Neddy shoulda gone to the wall but Joff's a complete f***wit.

Pretty sure the Kingslayer started a pretty big war though ;)
11:21am 29/05/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7882 posts
Pretty sure the Kingslayer started a pretty big war though ;)

If you're talking about Robert's Rebellion, that was started by Robert, Ned and Jon Arryn. Jaime ended it by killing King Aerys Targaryan.
11:31am 29/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4886 posts
That war was started by Joffrey straight up. You don't f*****g kill the head of one of the families without a war coming from it, even the Lannisters were spewing; nobody was marching until that event.


Yeah they were, by the time Robb gets word his father's head and body have gone their separate ways the Stark army is already on the road and hacking at trees - "Robb, you've ruined your sword!". They were marching because Tywin and Jaime are in the Riverlands raising hell in response to Catelyn capturing and accusing Tyrion of trying to murder Bran.

I blame jamie for it since he shoved bran outta the tower and fathering the false king joffrey

Ahh, but until the dude with the dagger comes in, everyone's thinking Bran had an accident. Also, you can't blame Jaime for the crap that Joffrey pulls, because Joffrey is stupid. (Although SMBC has a relevant comic on ethics when accounting for future results hehe)
11:40am 29/05/12 Permalink
XaartaX
Adelaide, South Australia
479 posts
also, tyrion's cut on the face was ok... got the nose n all... but in the books he was hit heaps of times by stannis's men before the whiteguard betrayed him. he was also shot with an arrow.
Whiteguard? Betrayal? Hasn't happened in the TV series I take it?

Also Stannis at the end was wasbeing dragged off by his own men or assumingly the defenders?
11:58am 29/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4887 posts
Also Stannis at the end was wasbeing dragged off by his own men or assumingly the defenders?

Spoiler:
The TV show makes it unclear, but it's his own men. The way they portrayed that was a bit silly though to be honest, Stannis' forces are retreating and Stannis is stuck up there holding his d*** on the battlements and yet evades capture?
12:11pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
12514 posts
If you're talking about Robert's Rebellion, that was started by Robert, Ned and Jon Arryn. Jaime ended it by killing King Aerys Targaryan.

F*** you for being right, c***. Had totally forgotten about the kidnapping etc ><
Yeah they were, by the time Robb gets word his father's head and body have gone their separate ways the Stark army is already on the road and hacking at trees - "Robb, you've ruined your sword!". They were marching because Tywin and Jaime are in the Riverlands raising hell in response to Catelyn capturing and accusing Tyrion of trying to murder Bran.

F*** you too :p

Joff cemented the war at the very least; Tywin and crew were talking about exchanging prisoners etc and had a meltdown about the Starks being committed to the war after the death of stupid Neddy.
12:48pm 29/05/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6845 posts
Whiteguard? Betrayal? Hasn't happened in the TV series I take it?

i meant the kingsguard, white cloaks... & it happened in the latest episode where tyrion is fighting stannis's men & there is a lull in the combat. he sees one of the kingsguard & smiles at him & the kingsguard slashs him in the face. it's the kingsguard that hasn't got much screen time in the past.. can't remember his name but the one everyone says is dangerous coz he never shows any emotion.
Also Stannis at the end was wasbeing dragged off by his own men or assumingly the defenders?

yah this bit stuck me as quite silly even though it did make for heroic scenes. stannis & tywin are supposed to be the careful commanders that lead from the rear. stannis leading the landing, leading the charge & leading the climb up the ladder was out of character but i think they did it that way to make joff look like more of a coward.
01:20pm 29/05/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6780 posts
the guy cersei had in the tower with the other wenches to kill them if the battle was lost.. dude was seriously creepy. was that a significant part of the books/ will we see that guy again? or was he just there for creepy effect. he sure was creepy.

creepy.
01:23pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
5996 posts
^ He was the guy who beheaded ned stark.
01:26pm 29/05/12 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
911 posts
Did Cersei call Joffrey back so she could mix drinks for him as well? Otherwise why would she call him back?
01:26pm 29/05/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6846 posts
the guy cersei had in the tower with the other wenches to kill them if the battle was lost.. dude was seriously creepy. was that a significant part of the books/ will we see that guy again? or was he just there for creepy effect. he sure was creepy.

yeh that's ser ilyn payne, the king's executioner. the dude that cut ned's head off & joff' personal torturer.
he had his tongue cut out & he just stares really crazily O_O
Did Cersei call Joffrey back so she could mix drinks for him as well? Otherwise why would she call him back?

nah she called him back coz she was scared that tyrion planned to lead him into dangerous combat. just being overly motherly.
01:27pm 29/05/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6781 posts
what a creep!
01:27pm 29/05/12 Permalink
funky
Brisbane, Queensland
1661 posts
yeah, he's had his tongue cut out and can't read or write, lulz! that'll teach naughty ilyn to say the wrong thing around the mad king aerys.
01:55pm 29/05/12 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
1037 posts
what a creep!


What a weirdo?
02:06pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19164 posts
What the hell is he doing there?
02:14pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4888 posts
He don't belong there!
02:17pm 29/05/12 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8014 posts
He doesn't care if it hurts.
02:24pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Outlaw
Gold Coast, Queensland
2097 posts
03:03pm 29/05/12 Permalink
XaartaX
Adelaide, South Australia
480 posts
Been waiting for a mod like that for Mount and Blade.
03:16pm 29/05/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6783 posts
looks like it's worth a go. I'm a fan of kingdom management style of games like the total war series. that kotaku review is reporting crusader kings 2 is $10 on amazon however it's $40 on steam. would prefer to get it digitally and quickly but not at a difference like that. files sizes are quite small too.
03:17pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1542 posts
Sounds good, they seem to be keeping to the main plot points in the books, just through different minor events.

@Dazhel and hoggy

Yarr there be spoilers and dragons here!

Spoiler:
Pretty sure the Lannisters started the first war by imprisoning Ned Stark, with threat of execution or banishment to the wall, murdering Jory Cassel and the rest of Ned's household/northmen in Kingslanding, and allegedly holding Sansa and Arya to ransom. Not to mention making Joffery king after Robert died.

That's the public start, not counting their crippling of Bran (Which the Starks suspect), the murder of Jon Arryn, and the overall sub-plot to murder Robert and take the throne for the Lannister family

05:31pm 29/05/12 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
1040 posts
Also I just discovered Grand Maester Pycelle is the bad guy from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (and the Imperial who leads the attack on Hoth)!


Yeah I spotted that in season 1 (took a bit of a double take before it clicked tho).

Not related to thread:
If you think that's a surprise piece of casting, wait til you figure out who the villain in MIB 3 is (don't hit IMDB before you see it... his mouth (and the way he speaks) is a dead giveaway, but it is still awesome seeing him step up to the plate like that!)
05:42pm 29/05/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15211 posts
it's jemaine clement from flight of the conchords.
06:02pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Bah
Brisbane, Queensland
4709 posts
nah she called him back coz she was scared that tyrion planned to lead him into dangerous combat. just being overly motherly.
Um she was about to poison her other kid, was she going to do Joffrey too is what i assume eski was asking.
06:33pm 29/05/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6847 posts
it doesn't make a whole lot of sense i agree. it's different in the books. tommen isn't even in king's landing during the siege so the scene was added as a bit of tv drama i spose.
06:51pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Mantorok
Brisbane, Queensland
6483 posts
looks like it's worth a go. I'm a fan of kingdom management style of games like the total war series. that kotaku review is reporting crusader kings 2 is $10 on amazon however it's $40 on steam. would prefer to get it digitally and quickly but not at a difference like that. files sizes are quite small too.
"Requires Steam account for installation and activation"
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006ULENFG
06:55pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4890 posts
Yarr there be spoilers and dragons here!

Spoiler tags not really necessary, that's all Season 1/Book 1 plot.

I get that the Lannisters certainly aren't blameless in the whole war deal, but the trigger for all of that stuff is when Catelyn and Tyrion meet at the Crossroads Inn. Ned gets swept up in things and lies about ordering Catelyn to do it and Jaime and the rest of the Lannisters are off to the races.
07:07pm 29/05/12 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
2633 posts
Yeah I'm beginning to think that Catelyn is a walking catastrophe. Not sure if she's meant to be represented that way but it kind of cemented it for me when she let Jamie go and I thought back on her previous actions and how many of them seemed to be motivated more by ego and self-centred self-interest rather than any kind of real love for her children or noble intentions.

I think being reminded of how she treated John Snow helped form that image during the Jamie Lannister goading.
07:56pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
12518 posts
Yeah I'm beginning to think that Catelyn is a walking catastrophe.

LOL ... man, someone remember this post for future reference! :))
08:12pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4893 posts
Haha deadlyf you're a prophet
08:20pm 29/05/12 Permalink
HERMITech
Brisbane, Queensland
7880 posts
Yarr there be spoilers and dragons here!


Nah,
Here Be Dragons!

http://i.minus.com/iTtOwdxrMezr5.gif
08:25pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19169 posts
Another thing I remembered just earlier when talking to my brother that I liked, was when Bron was in the tavern with all the Lannister guardsmen and they were singing the Rains of Castamere, thought that was a nice touch..
09:02pm 29/05/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15213 posts
they used the song for the end credits too.

Some non-spoiler background: Its about Tywin Lannister's suppression of a rebellion. When he was still a teenager two bannermen of house Lannister: the Tarbecks of Tarbeck Hall and the Reynes of Castamere rebelled and Tywin crushed the rebellion and killed every member of both houses. The song is used by the Lannisters as a warning to anyone who would oppose them




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09:18pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
9659 posts

Yeah Khel was pretty cool... there are some very bad versions of this song on you tube, but that's the tv version
09:30pm 29/05/12 Permalink
HERMITech
Brisbane, Queensland
7882 posts
Also:

10:58pm 29/05/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6786 posts
damn, she looks a lot better with dark hair and hasn't been trudging through wastelands for weeks
12:49am 30/05/12 Permalink
r3wind69
Sydney, New South Wales
4 posts
damn, she looks a lot better with dark hair and hasn't been trudging through wastelands for weeks


+1, looks gorgeous as a brunette.

Regarding what started the initial war/bad blood that a few of you have been discussing... (Major spoiler from A Feast of Crows)
Spoiler:
Lysa Tully/Arryn poisoned Jon Arryn, not the Lannisters. She was in love with Littlefinger and he told her to do it to further his own plots. He also told her to write her sister, Catelyn, pinning the blame on the Lannisters. Jon Arryn was like a father to both Ned and Robert and was one of the main reasons that Ned took up the position of the Hand, so that he could get to the bottom of Jon Arryn's death. This also kicked the Lannister-hating up a notch.
02:09am 30/05/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1544 posts
Ah good shout r3wind, I'd forgotten about that. I remember now how surprised I was at the revelation at how involved/cunning Littlefinger has been in the whole game of thrones.
03:38am 30/05/12 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
914 posts
I can't unsee her eyebrows. Happened when she was ranting in Qarth a few episodes back, and now I just cant take my eyes off them.
09:30am 30/05/12 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
12533 posts
This is speculation I saw on Reddit and not a true spoiler, but I suspect its true and has the potential to spoil the major plot twist utterly if so. Read at your own risk, it contains not just speculation but also information from the later, unaired books as well.

Serious f*****g spoiler follows, unsafe as s*** for the TV watchers, probably unsafe for the book readers :)
Spoiler:
Jon Snow is not actually Ned's bastard, he is the son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen.

This explanation fixes the seemingly ignoble behaviour of Ned in siring a bastard during the war (which has always been a wtf to me). Taking on the smear of dishonour was the only way to protect his nephew, a typically disgustingly self-sacrificing Ned act. Robert never knew this because he probably couldn't be trusted to let Rhaegar's bastard on Lyanna live.

Its why Jon's mother is a mystery.

It fits the timeline as Ned's supposed infidelity was while Lyanna was kidnapped.

It explains why THREE of the Kingsguard were protecting Lyanna. There were protecting the heir.

It also makes the over-arching "Song of Ice and Fire" make sense; the true protagonists are Jon and Dany, Ice and Fire. Jon is Robb's acknowledged heir to the King in the North throne. As he is a legitimised Stark and also a Targaryen, he can marry Dany to unify the kingdoms and defend Westeros against the Others.

03:31pm 30/05/12 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
1984 posts
why did i read that... it makes so much f*****g sense!
03:44pm 30/05/12 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
12534 posts
why did i read that... it makes so much f*****g sense!

I know .. I didn't want to post it!

BUT IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!
03:46pm 30/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4896 posts
F*** that would be awesomely epic if that was true Hoggy.
Nobody hover over Hog's spoiler unless you've finished reading all of the books released to date!

Also:
Spoiler:
That would tie in nicely to when Ned says to Jon "Always remember, you're a Stark" when Jon heads off to the wall. Ned pulls an Obi-wan Kenobi, what he said was true, from a certain point of view...
03:48pm 30/05/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15216 posts
yeah i've read what hog posted before. would be good if that's how it turns out.

also to add to hog's spoiler: Spoiler:
doesn't jon dream about him self wearing armour made of ice and a burning sword?


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03:50pm 30/05/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15217 posts
and it could also mean that jon is Spoiler:
azor ahai reborn.
04:09pm 30/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19176 posts
Yeah, hoggy's post is one rumour I've read, but theres quite a few, and most of them are backed up with stuff from the books and make sense. Also DO NOT HIGHLIGHT THIS SPOILER UNLESS YOU HAVE READ ALL THE BOOKS

Spoiler:
Like the one about him being at the center of the prophecy that Stannis has adopted and Jon Snow being the actual Azor Azhai reborn (or however you spell it). I can't remember the details and I'm too busy to google it up, but theres some line in the prophecy about him being reborn with salt and smoke and when he gets stabbed at the end of book five it makes a point to talk about how his wound is smoking and Donal Noye is crying (the salt). And yeah, hes dreamed about himself wielding a flaming sword.

I guess the two theories aren't necessarily mutually exclusive though. But that would mean a lot of Targaryens survived, Robert really did a pretty s*** job at it. Dany, her brother, the other kid that showed up in book five and Jon Snow as well? It starts to strain what I'm willing to believe.

I'd always assumed he wasn't really Ned Stark's bastard though, cos sif Ned Stark would be that disloyal. And I doubt he would have been so hedgey about who the mother was if there wasn't some big secret behind it.

04:13pm 30/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19177 posts
Spoiler:
I think I'd prefer the Azor Azhai theory to be true personally, and have Jon Snow's story all about him fighting the White Walkers like a badass. I don't want him to get involved in all the politics and stuff, we've got plenty of other characters to cover that angle
04:17pm 30/05/12 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
918 posts
Spoilers!

Spoiler:

I thought Stannis was a pretty strong candidate for being Azor Ahai, considering he has smoke(dragonstone), salt(his ships) and the sword lightbringer. Seems too obvious though......

04:18pm 30/05/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15218 posts
khel: Spoiler:
it's prophesied that azor ahai would be reborn from the targaryen blood line
04:20pm 30/05/12 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
919 posts
Spoiler:
all signs point to Dany
04:22pm 30/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19178 posts
Eski: Spoiler:
Except that he faked/staged lightbringer
04:29pm 30/05/12 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
922 posts
Spoiler:
haha, fake lightbringer is still better than no lightbringer :P
05:28pm 30/05/12 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
1985 posts
christ.
07:03pm 30/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19179 posts
Yeah, I think thats enough book spoilers, you know its gone too far when entire conversations are spoiler tagged out :P
07:09pm 30/05/12 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
2636 posts
From what I can tell, this is what's going to happen.
Spoiler:
F*** you and your tempting spoiler text!


Pretty sure anyway, it's the only thing that makes sense!
08:06pm 30/05/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1545 posts
Just read all those spoiler tags and OMGWTFBBQ!!!

I hadn't read Hoggy's rumour but it makes so much sense!

What about, and this is only a half-rumour and not major plot one - but it is a TV SHOW SPOILER.

Spoiler:
Cersei and Jamie being half-targaryen because the mad king claimed 'king marriage rights' and slept with Tywin wife on the night of the wedding, this is hinted at why he hates the mad kind so much. I suppose Cersei/Jamie are f***ed anyway though as house Lannister is pretty much ruined by the end of the last book.
08:12pm 30/05/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6795 posts
Spoiler:
snape kills dumbledore
08:33pm 30/05/12 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
1986 posts
farrrk reload just unloaded a bombshell
09:27pm 30/05/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1134 posts
This thread has gone too far!

/quit
09:46pm 30/05/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7885 posts
Yeah, I read about the speculation from Hoggy's post a few months back, and it is pretty solid. I did read something recently that shot chunks of it down though, and it did so pretty convincingly. I don't remember any of the details, and I couldn't be bothered looking them up, but it was enough to leave me skeptical about it all. I guess that's a good thing, because whatever the outcome is, it'll be more surprising.
10:01pm 30/05/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7886 posts
Just saw this on Reddit. They've announced some of the characters being introduced in season 3.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/05/29/game-of-throne-season-3-cast/

I'm happy to see that they actually are introducing Jojen and Meera. The Tully family is finally being introduced, a bit late, but at least they're there. We might finally see Riverrun. I'm pretty sure Brynden Tully was supposed to be the one who met Catelyn at the Vale when she had Tyrion hostage in season 1.
10:56pm 30/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19180 posts
So they haven't written out Stannis' daughter after all. Glad they've got the Tyrell grandmother in there too, I was just thinking about that the other night.

Also, Beric Dondarrion and Thoros of Myr, f*** yeah.

And just for the hell of it, I reckon this guy would make a pretty good Mance Rayder
11:50pm 30/05/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9205 posts
http://i.imgur.com/Kiy78.jpg

last edited by dais at 17:55:53 31/May/12
05:54pm 31/05/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9207 posts
11:11pm 31/05/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9223 posts
07:48am 04/06/12 Permalink
Creepy
USA
1945 posts
Well then. Last episode is 10mins longer, and still manages to short-change a few key moments into "oh, that just happened, you missed it."

Needless to say, the stage is well and truly set for A Storm of Swords (Part 1). The predictions of the ending scene that I've seen around the interwebs were largely off. Still awesome though. :)

One thing I noticed...

Spoiler:
Luwen didn't tell Osha to split up Bran and Rickon. Probably just a 'who really cares' omission, but could also lead to a deviation from the books, for a little while?
02:30pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19217 posts
I thought it might end Spoiler:
with Walder Frey finding out about Robb and the other girl hes with and starting to scheme
but then that might cut a bit far into what they're planning for season 3.
02:42pm 04/06/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15247 posts
sweet last ep is over an hour. cant wait to watch.
03:29pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Creepy
USA
1946 posts
Khel, it was pretty much covered enough for a 'tease' for next year. To introduce yet another character in an episode (and season) would probably make peoples' heads explode. :)
03:59pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Tele
Gold Coast, Queensland
318 posts
So when's season 3 out? Oh wait it got cancelled well thats a dam shame.. thank god its not FOX
04:17pm 04/06/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9225 posts
Had me worried for a second there.

The actor who played Syrio Forel (Arya's dancing instructor) did an AMA on reddit.
05:59pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Bah
Brisbane, Queensland
4713 posts
What happened to winterfell?
I thought the ironborn c**** were going to surrender and give up Theon.. but then they torched the place?

Is the answer to this spoilers or did the show just not make it very clear?

Also lol at the speech.
06:21pm 04/06/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6815 posts
yeah I thought robb's old mate's bastard was coming to take back winterfell.. how come that s*** got sacked and there was no one to be seen? what happened to that f*****g hornblower?

decent enough end to the season. I lol'd when the dothraki finally got to loot the black dude's house, looked like they were having a ball.
06:30pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4903 posts
Also lol at the speech.

Hahaha so true.

what happened to that f*****g hornblower?


He got promoted to Admiral of the Fleet eventually, I believe.
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h82/drsills/vlcsnap2790120.jpg
06:55pm 04/06/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6854 posts
Is the answer to this spoilers or did the show just not make it very clear?

any answer is gonna be pretty spoilery even though at this point in the book you do know what happened there. i assume they are going to explain it in the next season.

hehe, it was a good speech :D

anyone know when they plan to air season 3?
07:16pm 04/06/12 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
2643 posts
Man I knew that dude had an empty vault!

"I have a ridiculous amount of gold in there... that only I've seen, I'd let you see it but my unlocking the vault wrist is a little sore today."

I wanted way more political fallout from last ep in Kings Landing, was really disappointed by the way that just kind of fizzled out for the end of the season. By the time the next season is out it won't have the same impact.
07:26pm 04/06/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15251 posts
those white walkers are freaky looking.
07:47pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Jayman
Brisbane, Queensland
698 posts
I started reading the first book this week. Half way through. I really want to get in front of it all before next season. Even only having read half of the first book you get a much better understanding of everything. So many times in the show you see what's going on but without really understanding everything. It's still enjoyable but I can't wait to get through these books.
07:48pm 04/06/12 Permalink
shad
Brisbane, Queensland
3733 posts
What I can't understand is why Iggy Pop was riding on a horse at the end of the episode.
09:01pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19222 posts
That was f*****g epic, wasn't expecting the white walkers to show up. When they cut back to Sam and the other guys in the snow I said to my brother "I bet it ends with them blowing the horn three times", but I didn't think they'd show white walkers. Awesome!

Pretty much delivered on everything it needed to deliver on, was a really good ep. And yeah, they did kind of rush over what happened to Winterfell but I would assume its something that will be revealed next season, cos its a pretty huge plot point. Keep an eye on the castings for season 3, if a "Ramsay Bolton" shows up as a new character being cast, thats Roose Bolton's bastard, and that'll be a good sign we'll find out more about what happened to Winterfell.

I wanted way more political fallout from last ep in Kings Landing, was really disappointed by the way that just kind of fizzled out for the end of the season.


I'm suprised there was any Kings Landing scenes at all, I figured after a whole episode being set there, there wouldn't be anymore Kings Landing stuff for this season.
11:30pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Creepy
USA
1947 posts
anyone know when they plan to air season 3?


April 2013.

HBO have True Blood next week, then Boardwalk Empire, then three months of some show that won't be about horse racing, then back to Game of Thrones.
12:32am 05/06/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1135 posts
yeah I thought robb's old mate's bastard was coming to take back winterfell.. how come that s*** got sacked and there was no one to be seen? what happened to that f*****g hornblower?


In the books the Boltons bastard burns Winterfell to the ground...
As mentioned in E08 when Robb sends Boltons bastard to retake Winterfell he orders all Pyke men who surrender the chance to return home except for Theon, hence why they captured him themselves.

Good Episode, I thought they rushed a few things especially the bit at the end, it's so intense that scene in the books but the show didn't really do it that well.
07:54am 05/06/12 Permalink
Mass
Brisbane, Queensland
1210 posts
I lol'ed at the non fire proof warlock........ wtf did he think a bunch of dragons was going to do?
09:25am 05/06/12 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
12562 posts
I lol'ed at the non fire proof warlock........ wtf did he think a bunch of dragons was going to do?

AFAIK they hadn't been full-blown fire breathing yet, d******* probably thought he was safe. That whole segment is a bit of a divergence from the books AFAIK, so I could be wrong.
I wanted way more political fallout from last ep in Kings Landing, was really disappointed by the way that just kind of fizzled out for the end of the season. By the time the next season is out it won't have the same impact.

They set up a LOT of stuff in this last ep. A few things to keep in mind:

- Sansa and Littlefinger's discussion is not random, every scene in GOT is there for a reason.
- Obviously Joff's new betrothed. This in particular will be a major part of S3, and we'll see more of House Tyrell.
- Tyrion basically being shanked despite holding the city together until Tywin arrived.
Spoiler:
Little c*** really can hold a grudge :)))
09:53am 05/06/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15255 posts
bit of a spoiler there mosfx
10:18am 05/06/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9233 posts
What happened to The Hound taking Sansa home like he promised? He wasn't even in the episode.

I just assumed they left at the end of episode nine. Or is that something he means to do later?
10:20am 05/06/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6857 posts
sansa was too girly scared to go with the hound so he left without her during the blackwater battle.

the hound couldn't really hang around king's landing now that he is a self-confessed traitor to the king & the white cloaks.
10:33am 05/06/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19223 posts
Yeah, she didn't go with the hound, she was all like "Stannis is going to take the castle, and hes a good guy so he'll look after me"
10:36am 05/06/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6858 posts
whinge time :)
i wish they had done roose bolton like the books :/ in the tv show he is a harsh, loud spoken, northern bannerman.. not like the leechlord in the books with his whispering & sliminess :(
ghost & melisandre should both have red eyes.
april 2013 !@#! :( :(
Spoiler:
isn't it kinda important that robb's wife is from a family that are lannister bannermen? i haven't quite finished book3 yet so i dunno if it is truely important or not but they made a bit of a deal about it in the book which made me wonder if it wasn't "true love" but more of a lannister plot to put robb in the frey's bad books.
10:46am 05/06/12 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
12563 posts
demon:

Spoiler:
Probably not - Martin oversees the script, so its probably just one of those things that won't ultimately matter. If there was an intent to make it a big deal later they wouldn't have deviated, so Random Overseas Noble Chick was inserted instead, because who she is doesn't matter, aside from the fact that Robb goes back on his word and pisses off the Freys.

Kind of funny how watching the TV show can maybe spoilerise the future books due to changes :)

11:19am 05/06/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6859 posts
yeh you are probably right there :)
Spoiler:
book3 is so full of treachery i am prolly seeing it where it doesn't exist ;)
11:49am 05/06/12 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
12564 posts
Yeh S3 has so much gold coming, I can't believe we have to wait until f*****g April!
12:00pm 05/06/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15256 posts
wish they had that one scene daenerys sees in the house of the undying that hints at the big wtf event that will happen in season 3.
12:00pm 05/06/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6818 posts
04:01pm 05/06/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19227 posts
Yeah, I figured they just made her a random overseas noble so they didn't have to introduce yet more characters (ie her family). The only real important thing is that Robb married a girl he wasn't supposed to marry and broke his vow.

Even though the show deviates a bit, it still does seem to hit all the same notes in the end and head in the same general direction, even if some of the smaller details get changed. I agree with demon about Roose Bolton, I was really looking forward to seeing him and his leeches, but in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter too much and to someone who hasn't read the books, it wouldn't matter at all.

I'm wondering who they're going to cast as Ramsay Bolton though, or if hes even going to show up next season or if they'll move things around to have him show up later.
04:11pm 05/06/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4907 posts
What I can't understand is why Iggy Pop was riding on a horse at the end of the episode.


lol
05:08pm 05/06/12 Permalink
HerbalLizard
Brisbane, Queensland
5545 posts
The Unsullied better be mad c*** rspca ganstsa's
09:27pm 05/06/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15261 posts
just had to post this

http://i.imgur.com/Nq5ca.jpg
10:14pm 05/06/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7887 posts
Just watched it, I think it was a pretty good end to the season. The changes they've made seem like they're still pretty much keeping everything heading in the right direction, so no harm done there. I wasn't really worried too much anyway, but it keeps things interesting. Pretty rad to see the White Walkers up close too!
12:26am 06/06/12 Permalink
Creepy
USA
1955 posts
The comments for the post are gold.

12:37am 06/06/12 Permalink
Scooter
Brisbane, Queensland
5894 posts
Having not read the books I was wondering WTF happened to Winterfell. I know Robb said 'Let them live if they surrender' etc (they even had the flash back at the start) and they did that. Hog tied Theon and then the next time you see Winterfell it's Burning...

Left wondering WTF happened. Thats s***. Knowing that the bastard son of one of Robbs Banner men burned it doesn't make any more sense to me either. I haven't even seen the guy, is he jelouse of what Robb has/had or just did it for the lulz?

Also, back at kings landing, Tywin is a very proud man, but he seens like a smart and resonable enough General/Leader... you would think he would hear the stories of what Tyrion did. He seems like he would also be able to see through the bulls*** that would be fed to him via Joffery / Cersei.
07:51am 06/06/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4908 posts
Left wondering WTF happened. Thats s***.

Yeah, that plot thread had changed a lot from the books, and with the exception of Theon hacking off Rodrik Cassel's head I got left with the feeling that the action fell a little flat as well. They hit the major plot point of Theon having enough surprised to capture Winterfell but too inept to realise that he couldn't hold it worked out the same though.

Book spoiler on Winterfell sacking (and possibly first ep of season 3):
Spoiler:
In the books Rodrik Cassel and crew leave Winterfell unguarded so Theon captures the castle with a tiny force. After Torren's Square is safe Rodrik's men learn that Winterfell has been occupied, they head back to lay seige. Ramsay Bolton shows up, and attacks the Winterfell men, so Theon foolishly thinks Ramsay's on his side so he opens the gate. Ramsay captures Theon, kills his men, and burns Winterfell to the ground so the Bolton's can take control of the North.
09:03am 06/06/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19235 posts
you would think he would hear the stories of what Tyrion did. He seems like he would also be able to see through the bulls*** that would be fed to him via Joffery / Cersei


Its more that he just doesn't give a f*** about Tyrion. Hes not a nice guy.
10:04am 06/06/12 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
2646 posts
What time frame do the books cover? There is like 5 with 6 or 7 planed right? So that would be 6-7 years of the show running, I'm wondering if the child actors they have in the show will fit within that if they continue with the current pace of 1 book per season per year.

I mean it's not like Harry Potter where each book more or less represents a school year, from what I can tell from the show the first two books only cover a matter of months.
11:03am 06/06/12 Permalink
greazy
Brisbane, Queensland
5384 posts
I want to know how Kalesi went from being in the tower of the undead with her dragons to breaking into the f*****g kings quarters of Quarth with a handful of misfits left over from the slaughter. What?

Really rushed episode only good bit is the Walkers.
11:59am 06/06/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4909 posts
What time frame do the books cover?


The books play it a bit fast and loose with respect to timescales, so events can be overlapping between chapters and even between later parts of one book and the next. It's roughly one year story time per book though. (and five years real world time per book release.. blah!)
12:18pm 06/06/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19237 posts
That means five years have passed in the books? Doesn't feel that way at all to me, feels like a year or two at most. Doesn't seem like the characters have aged that much either.

A bit of googling and the consensus seems to be 2 to 3 years.

AGoT covers the most time -- approximately 1 year.
ACoK seems to cover rough 6 months
ASoS covers about 4 months
AFfC covers about 6 months
ADwD covers about the same six months, and adds one-two months (there's an exception to this that I won't get into because of spoilers)
12:31pm 06/06/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15265 posts
dragons must grow fast if they're big enough to ride in the last book.
12:42pm 06/06/12 Permalink
Scooter
Brisbane, Queensland
5898 posts
I thought this season covered quite a bit of time. Long war campaigns that were just skipped / glossed over. But It takes a lot of time to mobalise troops etc. Season 2 would pass heaps of time. Even Lady Stark riding to / from the little Stannis dude would of been over a month.
12:47pm 06/06/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6862 posts
dragons must grow fast if they're big enough to ride in the last book.

dire wolves too :) ~2 years from new born pup to hulking man-killers :]

i just finished book3 on the train this morning.
Spoiler:
holy s*** at the epilogue !@#! zombie starks! :p


winter is coming
01:02pm 06/06/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7891 posts
I thought it would have been at least 3 years, but I dunno. I'm not too concerned, kids grow up fast, I'm sure they'll pull it off.

600th reply!
01:48pm 06/06/12 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
721 posts
I still don't understand what happened at Winterfell. Just going on the episode.

So Theon's guys just clobbed him and they took him to the guys out side keep, so they could trade him for safe passage out of there? They are soldiers loyal to the Starks or someone else. So many characters to remember.
06:09pm 06/06/12 Permalink
Enska
Sydney, New South Wales
1783 posts
haha, theon getting pwnt was the best part of the ep.
06:33pm 06/06/12 Permalink
HerbalLizard
Brisbane, Queensland
5547 posts
I wonder if someone would do a GoT diablo 3 mod
07:58pm 06/06/12 Permalink
XaartaX
Adelaide, South Australia
482 posts
Ugh, don't see how a GoT D3 mod would work. GoT isn't a hack 'n slash fest from beginning to end but to do with politics and war.

There's a Mount & Blade mod in progress atm which fits and a Crusader Kings 2 mod that's been released.
08:04pm 06/06/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1552 posts
Yeah I thought last few eps were good.

I did find that the white walkers weren't as foreboding as I'd imagined them to be from the books.

Be interesting to see how the larger plot arcs from the Winterfell stuff play out, as it becomes a pretty central part of the books further on. Theons story arc is pretty intense!

So much unbelievably epic s*** coming up!
09:09pm 06/06/12 Permalink
3dee
Brisbane, Queensland
7040 posts
The white walker chief dude and the zombies in general were well done and creepy.

I caught up on Season 2 in about 3 days. Killer season. Bad ass ending eps.
10:33pm 06/06/12 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
723 posts
I don't like how the chief walker guy on the horse was designed, too wrinkly looking. Just my 2 cents, Maybe he was described that way in the books or something, I dunno.
05:31am 07/06/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9249 posts
12:56pm 07/06/12 Permalink
Taipan
USA
3769 posts
Sorry if this has already been posted, i didnt want to check through 30+ pages to see if itbhas because i am on my phone.

I found it pretty good amd funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rapo0h-RDnk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
11:15am 10/06/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15289 posts
lol

that's better than the original song

last edited by ravn0s at 11:20:00 10/Jun/12
11:18am 10/06/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6865 posts
heheh key of awesome nailed it :p
11:36am 10/06/12 Permalink
Tiny
Brisbane, Queensland
3280 posts
F*****g halarious taipan thanks for sharing.
11:41am 10/06/12 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8026 posts
No Ygritte boobies, disappointing episode.
02:24pm 10/06/12 Permalink
Triamks
Brisbane, Queensland
3500 posts
Sorry if this has already been posted, i didnt want to check through 30+ pages to see if itbhas because i am on my phone.

I found it pretty good amd funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rapo0h-RDnk&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Funny
02:31pm 10/06/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9277 posts
Very good Taipan!
05:11pm 10/06/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19286 posts
One of the comments there raised a good point, with her handmaidens dead, I guess we don't get to see some of those hot girl-on-girl masturbation scenes. Shame.
02:52am 11/06/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1141 posts
One of the comments there raised a good point, with her handmaidens dead, I guess we don't get to see some of those hot girl-on-girl masturbation scenes. Shame.


Yeah I thought the exact same thing when the last one died in Ep10 :(

No wonder Darnearys is cranky
08:30am 11/06/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15300 posts
i forgot about the girl on girl action. i am sad now :(
09:23am 11/06/12 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
1995 posts
crusader kings 2 is $9.99 on steam today for those wanting to play that game of thrones mod !
11:16am 11/06/12 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8027 posts
Cersei has some girl love later on.
11:21am 11/06/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9289 posts
Spoiler tags ffs.
01:10pm 11/06/12 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8030 posts
Spoiler:

Half a page of girls flicking each others beans is not a plot twist

02:13pm 11/06/12 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
732 posts
Hot girl on girl action? Yes Please.
10:54am 12/06/12 Permalink
3x0dus
Townsville, Queensland
1634 posts
Lol just watched mirror mirror.

A movie where Sean bean didnt die!!

Well they thought he was dead, then wasnt.
10:55pm 16/06/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7907 posts
The lack of future lesbian scenes was the first thing I said when the gf and I were watching the scene where she finds Irri dead. A disappointing deviation from the books, for sure. :(
11:39pm 16/06/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15338 posts
wow HBO has pulled all digital copies of the last ep of season 1 and all DVD's and BD's from shelves because of the head that looks like george dubya.
12:02am 17/06/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9403 posts
01:11pm 24/06/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19416 posts
Game of Thrones theme covers are so last year
01:18pm 24/06/12 Permalink
Monkeez
Sydney, New South Wales
136 posts
Nah lets have more.

03:00pm 24/06/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9522 posts
01:58pm 07/07/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19500 posts
Thats pretty gay
02:15pm 08/07/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9546 posts
But it has the three-eyed raven and everything.

also dragons
02:48pm 08/07/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9567 posts
This is awesome!

11:11am 10/07/12 Permalink
existence
Brisbane, Queensland
7393 posts
im a 6th of the way through the 3rd book.. 1200 pages fml. f*** its good
03:34pm 10/07/12 Permalink
greazy
Brisbane, Queensland
5453 posts
nevermind.
05:58pm 10/07/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1182 posts
half way through book 4, damn it's slow
07:32pm 10/07/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9581 posts
Incredible Minecraft versions of the locations from GoT:

http://imgur.com/a/zqtpz
09:15pm 11/07/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5052 posts
This is awesome!

Haha, gold
09:37pm 11/07/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9590 posts
Game of Friends (0:45)

11:16am 13/07/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15493 posts
new cast members were revealed at comic con

Clive Russell, as Bryndon “The Blackfish” Tully
Kerry Ingram, as Shireen Baratheon
Tara Fitzgerald, as Selyse Baratheon
Paul Kaye, as Thoros of Myr
Thomas Brodie-Sangster, as Jojen Reed
Ellie Kendirck, as Meera Reed
Richard Dormer, as Beric Dondarrion
Nathalie Emannuel, as Missandei
Tobias Menzies, as Edmure Tully
Anton Lesser, as Qyburn
Philip McGinley, as Anguy
Kristofer Hivju, as Tormund Giantsbane
Mackenzie Crook, as Orell





also season 3 will premiere on march 31 next year.

last edited by ravn0s at 09:41:40 14/Jul/12
09:40am 14/07/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19547 posts
They should totally cast Peter O'Toole as Lord Hoster Tully
10:48am 14/07/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5065 posts
Holy crap Mrs Peel & Gareth Keenan are in GoT now
10:51am 14/07/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19548 posts
Wow, it is creepy how much the guy they have playing Jojen Reed exactly matches what I had imagined him to look like.
10:55am 14/07/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15494 posts
They should totally cast Peter O'Toole as Lord Hoster Tully


there's not much chance of that happening because he announced his retirement from acting a few days ago.
11:29am 14/07/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1189 posts
Wow, it is creepy how much the guy they have playing Jojen Reed exactly matches what I had imagined him to look like.


Yeah he looks like a frog man
12:41pm 14/07/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6897 posts
good casting for the blackfish too.
pity they couldn't get the same guy to play beric dondarion again but i spose he has only had a tiny part so far.

bring it awn
01:30pm 14/07/12 Permalink
FraktuRe
Gold Coast, Queensland
4302 posts
Wow, it is creepy how much the guy they have playing Jojen Reed exactly matches what I had imagined him to look like.


Yeah, same here.

Be interesting to see them once they're all done up with their make up and clothes.

I wonder if they'll put the greyscale on shireen.
02:07pm 14/07/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9689 posts
11:37am 27/07/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9690 posts
hawt

12:01pm 27/07/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1195 posts
holy s*** Daenarys is smoking as a brunette
12:06pm 27/07/12 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
994 posts
Who is sitting between Robb and Theon? (dunno the actors names...)
12:14pm 27/07/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19639 posts
One of the producers
12:21pm 27/07/12 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
995 posts
Ah right, that explains my lack of recognition
12:29pm 27/07/12 Permalink
funky
Brisbane, Queensland
1699 posts
lena headey and emilia clarke are both smoking hot with dark hair imo
02:11pm 27/07/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9691 posts
I liked it when they dry humped for Rolling Stone.
02:17pm 27/07/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9716 posts
11:35pm 30/07/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9911 posts
12:10am 17/08/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19770 posts
Look at this, I'm posting an ACTUAL Game of Thrones post in the Game of Thrones thread that doesn't involve fan art!

Ciaran Hinds (ie, Caesar from HBO's Rome) is Mance Rayder

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/08/17/game-of-thrones-mance-rayder/
01:50am 18/08/12 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
1210 posts
That's f***** awesome news Khel.

I understand the gravity behind the speculation of said character, but having rewatched Rome completely in the past week (off sick with this seasons flu/sinus infection... do no recommend) I am f***** keen to see Ciaran back in a HBO show.

Also Emilia Clarke is a f***** stunner full stop.

EDIT: poached from Khel's link:
The news marks the second actor to join Thrones‘ third season from Rome. Tobias Menzies (who played Brutus) was recently cast as Edmure Tully, the younger brother of Catelyn Stark, who has has become Lord of Riverrun in the wake of his father’s death.

AWESOME!!!

(now to see how they can cast Ray Stevenson to play some towering sword swinging maniac...)
03:13am 18/08/12 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1222 posts
Yeah yeah, saw this this morning, looks exactly as I expecting, damn they do a good job casting
06:22am 18/08/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9931 posts
Ciaran Hinds (ie, Caesar from HBO's Rome) is Mance Rayder


Wow nice!
08:58am 18/08/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7968 posts
I pictured Mance a little bit younger, but other than that, I think he's a good choice.
11:06am 18/08/12 Permalink
Taipan
USA
3797 posts
Not sure if i like the choice. I kind of agree with what midda said about picturing him as younger but also a bit rough around the edges. I have seen Hind in Rome and John Carter and in both of those he had an air of royal arrogance about him and thats not how i picture Mance.

Of course that doesnt mean he wont pull this role off because he obviously wouldnt be aiming to portray Mance in the same way as those roles i mentioned. I seem to recall him playing a russian president in a Ben Afleck film aswell, the name escapes me now.
11:37am 18/08/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19771 posts
When they mentioned in the article that James Purefoy (the guy who played Mark Antony in Rome), I thought f***, he matches the image I had for Mance in my head absolutely perfectly, but hes contracted to a different series. Still Ciaran Hinds is a top actor, hes pretty awesome in everything I've seen him in, so I reckon he'll nail this.
12:19pm 18/08/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6927 posts
yeh i rekn james purefoy would have been a better choice for mance too. younger n more of a c***y smart-arse.

i kinda feel sorry for tobias menzies... he was cast as a loser as brutus in rome & now he gets edmure tully. lols.


(edit) had to edit out a book spoiler.... the spolier tags don't seem to be working :(
01:46pm 18/08/12 Permalink
Taipan
USA
3798 posts
Actually that you mention it he would of been more the type i would of expected for Mance. He does pull off the c***y experienced solider thing pretty well he also nails the charistmatic leader too. The kind of leader that wins respect because he'll gets his hands dirty. To top it off he is a fai. Bit more athletic than Hind.
01:54pm 18/08/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5144 posts
I pictured Mance a little bit younger, but other than that, I think he's a good choice.


Same, great actor though. I can't say I'm disappointed at all!

Ray Stevenson would be interesting as Oberyn Martell I thought Khel. All the other major badasses have been cast, yeah?
04:30pm 18/08/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19773 posts
Maybe Ray Stevenson could be Strong Belwas :P
07:04pm 18/08/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5145 posts
Strong Belwas doesn't have a huge part so will probably get dropped, but Aussie Derek Boyer (Thunder from Gladiators) would be pretty damn good for that role.
09:23pm 18/08/12 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
7970 posts
Strong Belwas doesn't have a huge part so will probably get dropped

Don't say such things! :(
01:14pm 19/08/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19777 posts
Is Victarion going to be in this season? I'm looking forward to seeing who they cast as him, and Euron (though I'd imagine Euron will be coming a fair bit alter)
01:38pm 19/08/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
10002 posts
07:27pm 21/08/12 Permalink
bepatient
Melbourne, Victoria
1062 posts
08:00pm 22/08/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5158 posts
Cat sings game of thrones theme


Heh, you sure can tell season 3 is still around eight months away.
08:39pm 22/08/12 Permalink
Rhys84au
Brisbane, Queensland
42 posts
belwas is a semi important part.

he is her in for conquering a certain city.
08:59pm 22/08/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19797 posts
Cat singing the theme song beats fan art any day
12:13am 23/08/12 Permalink
Ivonin
Brisbane, Queensland
1094 posts
About 300 pages into Dance of Dragons ...

Plus I still can't stop playing Crusader Kings II with the GoT mod ... so f*****g good.
05:11am 23/08/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16192 posts
11:29am 15/11/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20194 posts
Yeah, saw that on Facebook this morning, so far away :(
11:43am 15/11/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16287 posts
08:33pm 03/12/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1869 posts
01.04.2013 - Not long now!

I was reading this conspiracy theory that gives background to the rebellion and the whole start of the series, pretty interesting.

http://towerofthehand.com/blog/2012/01/05-southron-ambitions/index.html
10:25am 15/02/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2830 posts
Nice

On a side note i feel like reading the last book again just as a refresher, and its only been a year. F*** my memory is so bad :(
10:41am 15/02/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20643 posts
Wow, that site has an awesome spoiler hiding system
11:15am 15/02/13 Permalink
Tanaka Khan
Brisbane, Queensland
5347 posts
I think we should start a new thread for season 3.
12:45pm 15/02/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16647 posts
peter dinklage (tyrion) has been cast in xmen: days of future past. the rumour going around is that he will be playing the main villain.
01:27pm 15/02/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2831 posts
Tyrion could totally play taht slimey guy!
05:43pm 15/02/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16698 posts
05:17pm 23/02/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20690 posts
I'm assuming the guy with his eyes rolled back in his head in the scene with Mance Rayder is Varamyr sixskins? F***, still another month to go, I want it NOW!

In other news, season 2 is out on DVD and Bluray now as well
05:38pm 23/02/13 Permalink
TufNuT
I like eel pie
Brisbane, Queensland
4117 posts
soo close yet soo far.. damn it, i really want season 3 to start already.
05:52pm 23/02/13 Permalink
JakeG
Thailand
1166 posts
Just finished reading Storm of Swords.. really looking forward to seeing what is included/excluded in this series from the book.
07:16pm 23/02/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20693 posts
Yeah, I think it'll take a few seasons to do the whole of the third book, but II think anyone whos read Storm of Swords can imagine the season finale. I think there should be a rule though that we don't even talk about the events of the book, or even name them, or subtley hint at them or anything because if was even spoiled in the tiniest, tiniest way it wouldn't be the same.

Should keep book spoilers out of the Game of Thrones threads and make a separate thread for book related discussion stuff for this season, cos I think its gonna be more important than ever to keep the two separate.
07:33pm 23/02/13 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1142 posts
Awesome trailer, I am not sure I feel ready to watch such awesomeness.
06:39pm 24/02/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
13368 posts
I hope we get some real nice Khaleesi spoot this season!
08:55pm 24/02/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16702 posts
i look forward to her lesbian sex scene. i think that happens in a storm of swords.
09:09pm 24/02/13 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
10827 posts
^ That is why we need a book thread. I would start one but I haven't read them.
09:52pm 24/02/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1883 posts
Haha, I wonder if the actresses have read all the books and know what filthy sex scenes they're signing up for!
09:55pm 24/02/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16703 posts
i believe so. that's why the first chick cast as daenerys quit. she didn't want to go nude.
10:29pm 24/02/13 Permalink
HonkyHanka
UK
17 posts
Haha, I wonder if the actresses have read all the books and know what filthy sex scenes they're signing up for!


I thought the sex scenes aren't real or they cover up or have a stand in...
12:30am 25/02/13 Permalink
Creepy
USA
2032 posts
Showrunners have said that Episode 7 is the one that'll be the gamechanger. That's all I'll say.
05:30am 25/02/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20697 posts
O rly, guess this season is going a bit furthur than I thought, I figured it end there
02:53pm 25/02/13 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1143 posts
Lesbian sex you say, GoT can not get any better then this.
03:41pm 25/02/13 Permalink
Nerf Lord
Brisbane, Queensland
7328 posts
Screw lesbian sex, that's freely available all over the net, I want more peter dinklage and bron being amusing and clever. Can't get a hit of that s*** anywhere.
05:30pm 25/02/13 Permalink
Monkeez
Sydney, New South Wales
178 posts
I thought the sex scenes aren't real or they cover up or have a stand in...

Nah, they're real. The actors actually have sex on set while everyone watches, how else do you think they'd get it to look so authentic?
06:20pm 25/02/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20699 posts
Shame they didn't cast a real brother and sister as Jaime and Cersei, for that genuine incest flavour.
06:32pm 25/02/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1297 posts
Showrunners have said that Episode 7 is the one that'll be the gamechanger. That's all I'll say.


Episode 9 in each season so far seems to be the big game changers / battlers ie Ned Starks head in S1 and Battle of the Bay in S2.

Either way if it is E7 or E9 the world is not ready...
07:37am 26/02/13 Permalink
Creepy
USA
2035 posts
They have their work cut out for them, given it has a high chance of alienating non-book audiences...
08:17am 26/02/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13529 posts
Indeed ... its the RW we're talking about, right? This is where we see if TV audiences can handle the GRR effect...
09:41am 26/02/13 Permalink
Scooter
Brisbane, Queensland
6197 posts
If TV audience gets annoyed with 'The Characters you love best are going to die' then they're watching the wrong show.

P.S. I haven't read the books, so please STFU about them in this TV show thread.
10:53am 26/02/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13532 posts
lol
10:57am 26/02/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8470 posts
I can't believe Snape kills Dumbledore.
11:09am 26/02/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13533 posts
what a c***
11:20am 26/02/13 Permalink
Monkeez
Sydney, New South Wales
179 posts
The bit that surprised me the most was when you find out that Hodor is Azor Ahai reborn.
11:28am 26/02/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16711 posts

P.S. I haven't read the books, so please STFU about them in this TV show thread.


everyone dies and there will be a whole new cast for season 4.
11:34am 26/02/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16735 posts
new extended trailer

10:19pm 03/03/13 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1159 posts
Why the 31st.....I wants it sooner. I like that music too.
12:20am 04/03/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16736 posts
11:21am 04/03/13 Permalink
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