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orbitor
Brisbane, Queensland
6821 posts
Interesting...

Linky

Nissan haven't approved the 5% ethanol blend for use in pre-2004 vehicles, but I can't see why our cars wouldn't be fine on it - might need to replace fuel lines earlier but so what?

Anyway, will be interesting to see if it offers better knock prevention and power (as it should).

Oh, and you can get it from these stations: click me now
09:17am 17/11/05 Permalink
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Splash
Brisbane, Queensland
2287 posts
I think I'll be sticking with BP Ultimate for now.

It's probably just in my head, but the car seems to run better on it than it does on Optimax.
09:49am 17/11/05 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
15064 posts
yer, ill let others do the testing for me

if their cars are still fine in a few years, ill get on board!
10:43am 17/11/05 Permalink
cerb
Brisbane, Queensland
3055 posts
I think I'll be sticking with BP Ultimate for now.

It's probably just in my head, but the car seems to run better on it than it does on Optimax.

yer, same here
11:38am 17/11/05 Permalink
orbitor
Brisbane, Queensland
6824 posts
I might give it a go :)
11:49am 17/11/05 Permalink
nF
Wynnum, Queensland
11765 posts
i'll run it
01:10pm 17/11/05 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
15067 posts
not worth the hassle of having to tune for it and then being stuck with it

wont be good for fuel lines either

latest ep of hpi has a write up on it and it was good for 16rwkw on a r32 gtr over 98 ron

BUT FOR HOW LONG?
01:45pm 17/11/05 Permalink
maxe
Brisbane, Queensland
11765 posts
sif drive to Albany Creek or Virginia just for hi-ocu

Shell dont even do decent sausage rolls
01:46pm 17/11/05 Permalink
monkeymajik
Brisbane, Queensland
800 posts
No sausage rolls?

Fuck yo servo nga!
02:21pm 17/11/05 Permalink
Tung
Brisbane, Queensland
3381 posts
ill run it

but i found that bp are fuckheads and i swear that some servos are padding it... my cars and my gf's cars have always run worse on ultimate than on optimax :/
02:59pm 17/11/05 Permalink
nF
Wynnum, Queensland
11766 posts
i say 90% of "my car runs better on <some fuel>" is in the head of the driver
03:19pm 17/11/05 Permalink
Tung
Brisbane, Queensland
3383 posts
its hard trying to be objective, but over time ive basically made it fall into the order optimax > ultimate > vortex

oh i hear on the grapevine, that mobil are bringing out a 100+ octane fuel, somewhere around the 104/105 mark.

03:25pm 17/11/05 Permalink
maxe
Brisbane, Queensland
11767 posts
ultimate is better cos the logo is green
03:50pm 17/11/05 Permalink
orbitor
Brisbane, Queensland
6825 posts
i say 90% of "my car runs better on " is in the head of the driver


pfft, you wish.








I say it's more like 99%.
05:03pm 17/11/05 Permalink
Burgz
Brisbane, Queensland
2092 posts
vortex is the shit!
06:01pm 17/11/05 Permalink
nF
Wynnum, Queensland
11769 posts
since when is vortex 98 in queensland?
07:13pm 17/11/05 Permalink
Burgz
Brisbane, Queensland
2093 posts
what is vortex then? It always says 98 ron on the pump ...
07:48pm 17/11/05 Permalink
nF
Wynnum, Queensland
11772 posts
sorry i haven't been to a caltex station in ages
07:53pm 17/11/05 Permalink
spoon
Brisbane, Queensland
230 posts
I read that this new extreme shit has made a few skylines run like arse, stalling etc.
09:42pm 17/11/05 Permalink
nF
Wynnum, Queensland
11775 posts
thats cause its EXTREME
09:55pm 17/11/05 Permalink
Bj
Brisbane, Queensland
1155 posts
Maybe its so extreme the car needs new tuning :)

But serious, is vortex any good? Theres a woolies servo just down the road (*shudder*... i know) but I heard some workshop like nizpro it might have been uses it in their cars. Just it would be really convient with the location.

Guess it wouldnt hurt to try
09:58pm 17/11/05 Permalink
maxe
Brisbane, Queensland
11773 posts
dont do it, its a trap
10:57pm 17/11/05 Permalink
Tung
Brisbane, Queensland
3386 posts
vortex was 94, now they are coming out with a vortex 98

ultimate is 98.1, optimax is 98.9

optimax extreme is apparently 100, and mobil premiumuberslaw (TBA) is 105ish
06:27am 18/11/05 Permalink
Tung
Brisbane, Queensland
3387 posts
oh, and bp and shell have intermediate premiums at 95, and standard at 91.
06:28am 18/11/05 Permalink
nF
Wynnum, Queensland
11777 posts
where have you got the numbers for the 2 fuels from?

i have seen the apparent differences between the 2 and optimax has a higher aromatic percentage apparently (ultimate = 2%, optimax = 5%)

the mobil synergy fuel isn't in queensland yet (is that what you are talking about?) and is 98
08:47am 18/11/05 Permalink
Tung
Brisbane, Queensland
3394 posts
the catchphrase when they came out was optimax had the highest octane of any australian fuel, with 98.9.

it isnt the synergy one, its a development fuel, albeit this information was about a year old when i was talking to a guy that worked in mobil marketing at a party, he said that there was an increased demand to bring in a 100+ octane, and it would happen in the next couple of years. i wonder if that has been changed to synergy now :/

Okay, looking at the shell website, it no longer says 98.9 :/ i swear i remembered there being a diff between the two, shell billing themselves as the highest octane petrol avaialble with 98.high numbers. checking bp site, says 98 too... blargh.

guess i was wrong, or that was a marketing ploy and had to wind it back :/



last edited by Tung at 09:01:53 18/Nov/05
09:00am 18/11/05 Permalink
monkeymajik
Brisbane, Queensland
802 posts
The general consensus I have seen from a few forums, is that Optimax and Ultimate are very simular, except for one main difference. Optimax goes "off" more quickly i.e. loses it's octane rating due to the way it is made.

You can get 98octane vortex in qld, but I have not tried it.
09:30am 18/11/05 Permalink
Tung
Brisbane, Queensland
3400 posts
hence why they say ultimate gets you more km's i guess monkey. thats an interesting statement, i want to know the stuff behind it, any linkies?
09:43am 18/11/05 Permalink
nF
Wynnum, Queensland
11778 posts
i have seen the apparent differences between the 2 and optimax has a higher aromatic percentage apparently (ultimate = 2%, optimax = 5%)


possibly that

vertex 98 is apparently 5% aromatics as well

more than likely thats toluene

ultimate does it differently

interestingly mixing more toluene into your fuel (i think 10% makes 100octane) makes the car run too rich, which may account for people saying ultimate gives better kms
12:52pm 18/11/05 Permalink
Crunch
Perth, Western Australia
860 posts
I use Vortex thanks to the woolies servo down the road and have also used a few tanks in succession of bp ultimate. Can't say I notice the difference.

ALso, if any of you guys do use vortex they are running a comp for free fuel on the caltex site so keep your receipt and enter! :)
06:16pm 18/11/05 Permalink
Burgz
Brisbane, Queensland
2094 posts
i always use vortex in the vlt, havent had any problems ....
06:33pm 18/11/05 Permalink
nF
Wynnum, Queensland
11780 posts
with the fuel or the car?
07:34pm 18/11/05 Permalink
Domo Supreme
Brisbane, Queensland
5 posts
07:55pm 18/11/05 Permalink
Jerds
Brisbane, Queensland
755 posts
Fucken, I'll use it.

What fuel rating are jap vehicles tuned to anyway? :)
12:37am 22/11/05 Permalink
whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
9468 posts
98ron?
01:20am 22/11/05 Permalink
Ecstasy
Australian Capital Territory
3907 posts
I think it's 101 ron if my initial D fanboyism is corrrect.
07:52am 22/11/05 Permalink
Tung
Brisbane, Queensland
3445 posts
140ron for some of the other jap cars
12:58pm 22/11/05 Permalink
nF
Wynnum, Queensland
11809 posts
99% sure its 100RON

also tung i've never heard of 140RON fuel, and its certainly not available on any pumps anywhere in the world
03:58pm 22/11/05 Permalink
Paveway-3
Brisbane, Queensland
2874 posts
lol ^
05:38pm 22/11/05 Permalink
Jerds
Brisbane, Queensland
756 posts
lol
Maybe he meant 104 :)

LOLLLLLLLLLLL@#L@#@@222
Fuggen
06:07pm 22/11/05 Permalink
Paveway-3
Brisbane, Queensland
2875 posts

(he didn't jerds)
07:28pm 22/11/05 Permalink
Tung
Brisbane, Queensland
3452 posts
*shrug*

i guess i was completely misled about fuels :(

thats my bad.
01:29pm 23/11/05 Permalink
Jerds
Brisbane, Queensland
757 posts
Okay, I've used it, and I'm converted.
I can significantly feel the difference.
The GT-Four has the power like it's meant to. It runs better than it ever has.

I wish I was racing on track day now.
08:02pm 29/11/05 Permalink
Frag
Queensland
1746 posts
lol Jerds.

I'll be in Bris on Fri, Sat, Sun so with an empty tank so i'm up to try it.

/me squezes eyes shut
10:32pm 30/11/05 Permalink
applor
Brisbane, Queensland
2445 posts
Jerds I thought you had your ECU remapped for 91 RON?
01:01pm 03/12/05 Permalink
Jerds
Brisbane, Queensland
760 posts
OMIGOD WHY WOULD I DO A STUPID THING LIKE THAT!!!!!

Neg.
09:11am 05/12/05 Permalink
Paveway-3
Brisbane, Queensland
2943 posts
he did
09:50am 05/12/05 Permalink
Jerds
Brisbane, Queensland
761 posts
Neg.
09:27am 10/12/05 Permalink
paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
3008 posts
he did
12:11pm 10/12/05 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
6237 posts
Theres a woolies servo just down the road (*shudder*... i know)
You're a fucking dickhead burt and prove you know fuck all about anything, go to a mechanic and pay to get your work done you unknowledgable woman.

It's been proven that supermarket servo's use the same quality fucking fuel as everywhere else, fuel regulations are strict in Australia.

Is it true that independents and supermarkets often have "dodgy" fuel?

Many people are under the incorrect impression that some fuel retailers sell fuel that is of sub-standard quality.

All fuel in Western Australia has to comply with very stringent fuel quality standards.

In fact the WA standards are the most stringent in Australia and within our region.

Those standards are administered by the Department of Environment Protection. For more information about the standards contact this Department.

There are also Commonwealth standards in place (administered by Environment Australia) that are very similar to the WA standards.

All fuel sold in WA is required by law to comply with the State and Commonwealth standards. Where those standards conflict the requirement is to comply with the more stringent of the two standards.

As well as this, WA has quite unique supply arrangements for petrol. BP operates the only refinery in the State at Kwinana and a very high proportion of the petrol sold in WA (90%+) is produced at that facility.

There are a small number of petrol imports that occur from time to time, however these are generally from either eastern states or Singapore refineries. The same requirement to comply with State and Commonwealth fuel quality standards applies to those imported products.

Of course it is possible that adulteration of the fuel can occur as it moves along the supply chain between the refinery and the consumer. If you have concerns about the quality of fuel at a particular site it may be a good idea to raise your concerns with the site manager in the first instance.


That said, I still don't go to them either, but I wouldn't pretend like they have bad fuel that's going to OH NOES BLOW UP MY FULSIK RAD SKYLINE.
P.s. WA is the same as QLD

last edited by Loki at 12:44:43 14/Dec/05
12:39pm 14/12/05 Permalink
spoon
Brisbane, Queensland
277 posts
Sorry loki you're a few months late, we dont hate on burt anymore.
02:16pm 14/12/05 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
6238 posts
Sorry, you're a bit late, I've never liked burt since before you even knew qgl existed.
03:19pm 14/12/05 Permalink
spoon
Brisbane, Queensland
278 posts
No I'm sorry.
03:39pm 14/12/05 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
15319 posts
u both should be sorry
10:36pm 14/12/05 Permalink
wolfieee
Brisbane, Queensland
1345 posts
I've got a tank of the extreme juice running in my car. I definitely notice a bit more torque down low, which means its burning just a touch cleaner than the BP Ultimate i used to run.

But it hasn't been on a dyno to prove the difference between fuels. Might give CNJ Motorsport a call and see what they think about the fuel as they always recommended optimax for most of their customers cars.
10:25am 22/12/05 Permalink
nF
Wynnum, Queensland
12008 posts
running that shit now

fuck its a cunt to get it though, only 2 bowsers at the moorooka shell have it

as for the fuel, it works like petrol
07:15pm 22/12/05 Permalink
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