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Intel 520s SSD Format Problem
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
7359 posts
Hey all, so I just bought a Intel 520s 240GB SSD two days ago and have been trying to install Windows 8 onto this bloody thing however the situation isn't quite going the way I wanted it. Basically I get the error
"Windows cannot be installed to this disk. This computer's hardware may not support booting to this disk. Ensure that the disk's controller is enabled in the computer's BIOS menu."
and I can't for the life of me figure out why I'm getting that error.

I'm running a ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 in AHCI mode
The SSD is plugged into the Sata 3 connection along with my other SSD (which shows up)
It does not appear in BIOS yet appears in the install screen for Windows 8 and on my previous version of Windows 7 it appeared/was formatted

It previously stated that it need to be in GBT mode to install windows however that seems to have disappeared now that I'm booting my bootable USB into UEFI mode.

Any help is much appreciated, at my wits end here.
08:24am 29/08/12 Permalink
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Opec
Brisbane, Queensland
7645 posts
Not sure if this is related but is it formatted > 4096K sector size? I know standard windows backup will not work if the disk has large sector size as these days large USB drives formatted this way.

i.e.
http://practicalsbs.wordpress.com/2012/05/25/windows-backup-and-large-sector-portable-drives/

Not sure if the boot sector disk of Windows needs to be a certain sector size though.... just something to check.
09:12am 29/08/12 Permalink
mental
Brisbane, Queensland
3459 posts
I had a similar problem with my Intel 520s and Windows 8.

Disconnect all other drives except the one you are installing too and the one you are installing from.
When you boot from the install media it should pick up the uefi info from it and you should be able to boot it with the uefi flag.

My flash drive wouldn't allow me to boot from it in uefi mode so I had to make a dvd.

Once its booted into Windows 8 install and you get to the partition screen, just select the disk and hit new.

It should create three partitions, one 'system' one 'msr' and one big one 'primary'.

If it does then it is gpt (I don't think it tells you anywhere that is done properly except the amount of partitions).

Carry on the install, it might say you can not install to 'primary' partition but if you can hit next you're good to go.
09:15am 29/08/12 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
7360 posts
Hmm okay, I'll give that a shot later today then. What is strange though is that it isn't showing up in BIOS however it is definitely there and definitely not DOA. Must be a Windows 8 thing.
09:27am 29/08/12 Permalink
mental
Brisbane, Queensland
3460 posts
Didn't see it not showing up in bios.
Mine does. How are you going to set it as primary boot drive if you can't see it?
Does it show up on the windows partition screen?
Is you bios the latest firmware?
09:37am 29/08/12 Permalink
tspec
Melbourne, Victoria
3628 posts
I installed Windows 8 on 2 Intel 520 Series SSD's last night, no issues. Both drives detected in the BIOS. They were just single drive machines.
09:59am 29/08/12 Permalink
ara
Sydney, New South Wales
3504 posts
Hmm okay, I'll give that a shot later today then. What is strange though is that it isn't showing up in BIOS however it is definitely there and definitely not DOA. Must be a Windows 8 thing.


i would find out why it isn't showing up in the bios, if it is connected to one of the ports that shows up in the bios, the drive connected to that port should show up.
10:08am 29/08/12 Permalink
mental
Brisbane, Queensland
3461 posts
If you have two separate controllers for sata try plugging it into the other one.
10:13am 29/08/12 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
7361 posts
Didn't see it not showing up in bios. Mine does. How are you going to set it as primary boot drive if you can't see it?Does it show up on the windows partition screen?Is you bios the latest firmware?

It shows up in both the Windows 8 installation screen and when I previously had Windows 7 on before formatting it appeared. I'll have to check what my BIOS is at, but I'm pretty sure it is at current version. It is plugged into the SATA 3 port, as well as my other OCZ 60GB SSD (which does show up in BIOS), so I'm not sure what is going on.
10:42am 29/08/12 Permalink
mental
Brisbane, Queensland
3462 posts
Intel communities went into maintenance but in one of the google snippets it said someone had a sim prob but putting the other ssd into a different port sorted it. Another said clear cmos.
10:44am 29/08/12 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
7363 posts
I believe I may have figured out the problem, there seems to be 4x SATA 3 ports on my mobo, however 2 of them are Marvel branded, while the other 2 are Intel branded. Apparently the Marvel ones don't work for OS drives, so I need to plug it into the Intel ones. Will post back results after work.
12:14pm 29/08/12 Permalink
HERMITech
Brisbane, Queensland
7960 posts
You have a Specially Smart Drive
It's currently in self preservation mode and trying to protect itself from Windows 8

That said,
I actually have an Intel 520S running Windows 7 on one of the 6GB Marvel ports (Rampage III Extreme) which I also installed it on from the get go.

You probably just need to slipstream the Marvel driver into the install or just load the driver prior to attempting install.
01:58pm 29/08/12 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
7366 posts
Heh, well I'm giving WIn 8 a try first to see how radical the changes are, though apparently performance is huge. If that doesn't bode well I've got a Windows 7 Lite version I made that will run supper dooper fast.
02:09pm 29/08/12 Permalink
mental
Brisbane, Queensland
3463 posts
Na Windows 8 has the right drivers included, and that wouldn't stop the bios showing it anyway.

Looks like a quirk in the implication of two sata controllers on that particular motherboard. If not drive might be doa.
02:33pm 29/08/12 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
6041 posts
I believe I may have figured out the problem, there seems to be 4x SATA 3 ports on my mobo, however 2 of them are Marvel branded, while the other 2 are Intel branded. Apparently the Marvel ones don't work for OS drives, so I need to plug it into the Intel ones. Will post back results after work.

Looks like you beat me to the punch, i would have suggested this right away. The error message gave it away too.

Any offboard controller is often hard to handle. Things like OCZ tools don't work on offboard controllers.

My gigabyte z68 has 2 intel sata2 2 intel sata3 and 2 marvell sata3 slots. so lolsy.

Edit: I don't know what people are talking about about with performance gains. 5 runs of arkham city on both machines for me at the same graphics settings equalled win7 to be winner (by 3fps on average, a performance of about 5% higher on win7).

Anyway, win8 boots faster but SSD vs SSD comes down to literally about 1-2 seconds difference out of 14 seconds max. In fact the biggest problem is because if you enable all the sata controllers into their respective stuff then you end up with the first 8 seconds being just going form bios to controller to controller. Then the difference between one windows and the other is pretty much a 5 vs 7 second boot.
02:56pm 29/08/12 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
20495 posts
In fact the biggest problem is because if you enable all the sata controllers into their respective stuff then you end up with the first 8 seconds being just going form bios to controller to controller. Then the difference between one windows and the other is pretty much a 5 vs 7 second boot.
Yeah, my computer sits there for ages finding drives, usb devices, memory, whatever, then when it hits the windows booting part it just flies.

I think the manual for my motherboard might also say something about not using a particular set of slots for the OS drive.
05:05pm 29/08/12 Permalink
mental
Brisbane, Queensland
3464 posts
I told you to swap the ports two hours before you figured it out, did it do the trick?

With the fast boot button it takes 2 seconds from pressing the power button to be at Metro/login screen apparently.

http://event.asus.com/mb/windows_8/#feature

There are heaps of little things in Windows 8, like:



If you can't get used to Metro though it doesn't really matter though.
05:18pm 29/08/12 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
7369 posts
Hah yeah it did work Mental, thanks a heap gang. I'm actually really liking Windows 8, it isn't as bad as people seemed to portray it. There are some little quirks like going an extra step or two for certain things, but otherwise I like that as soon as I turn my computer on I'm greeted with my most common applications, and I can switch and choose at will.
07:47pm 29/08/12 Permalink
mental
Brisbane, Queensland
3467 posts
ninite.org
and then right click the 'start' tile at the bottom left of the desktop -> control panel > default programs and set your normal programs as the defaults (so it doesn't jump to metro apps when you don't want to use it).

press winkey + c
press winkey +q
press winkey+i

there are a heap of other things, but that will do for now
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