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Looking at purchasing SSD drive
TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
4931 posts
Looking at purchasing SSD drive what do you think of this? Seems like a good price, i have bought from them before i bought 5 x 3TB hard drive when they were on special last year

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/768804-REG/Crucial_Technology_CT512M4SSD2_512GB_m4_SSD_2_5_.html
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tspec
Melbourne, Victoria
3550 posts
Yeah, they sell for about $700 in AUS so that's a pretty decent price. I've got the 128Gb version and been happy with it so far.
02:18pm 06/06/12 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
13244 posts
I had a Crucial M4 fail, but I was one of the unlucky ones supposedly. I'd buy it. Just treat it like it's going to fail.
02:20pm 06/06/12 Permalink
Damo
Brisbane, Queensland
6105 posts
I just bought 256gb crucial from crucial website last month and saved around $80.

With shipping that B&H is $5 less than buying from crucial themselvces, nice find!

Can't believe it's $700 for the 512gb from umart.
02:27pm 06/06/12 Permalink
Mass
Brisbane, Queensland
1212 posts
I've had a 256Gb for over 12months, its like the little engine that could......
02:44pm 06/06/12 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
6990 posts
Performance and risk on a 512MB drive I'd still consider to maybe be a tad too high, but that certainly is a fantastic price.

Best case, I'd rather be recommending 2x256GB drives if you really need 512. But an upgrade to an SSD is about the best performance upgrade to a system you can make. I now have 4xSSDs in my desktop.
02:47pm 06/06/12 Permalink
tspec
Melbourne, Victoria
3551 posts
I also have a lot of trust issues with SSD's, I've seen plenty fail at work, mostly the OCZ's (no Crucials yet). As Pinky mentioned, treat the drive as if it will fail, you'll be thankful you did if it ever does. In terms of a drive with reasonable capacity that I rely on at home on my gaming PC is the Segate Momentus XT hybrid drive, not quite as fast as an ssd but still noticably faster than a standard hdd.

750Gb SataIII for $189.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=210_267&products_id=19010
02:57pm 06/06/12 Permalink
TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
4932 posts
ATM I have 2 x 300gb Raptor drives which are pretty fast. So you think i should go for the 256gb. All i am going to have on it is a few games, adobe and windows... yeah ive worked with computers for years i always take the primary hdd as if its going to fail... that is why i use cloud services and NAS drives :)
03:00pm 06/06/12 Permalink
Snakeman
Queensland
815 posts
They had the M4 250 gig for $200 about a month ago on ozbargin. I was pissed off I never got one because a week late my master ssd failed.
03:06pm 06/06/12 Permalink
TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
4933 posts
03:12pm 06/06/12 Permalink
scuzzy
Brisbane, Queensland
15373 posts
Who hasn't had an SSD fail for a substantial amount of time?
03:47pm 06/06/12 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
6991 posts
I've had a DOA SanDisk Extreme in the last month, but haven't had an SSD fail on me yet once populated with data.
We have 7 SSDs in the house, plus my Zenbook is on an SSD.
03:56pm 06/06/12 Permalink
Snakeman
Queensland
816 posts
do u mean US$200? Cause they still do



F*** !!!!
03:59pm 06/06/12 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
33801 posts
my ocz II 64g is still cranking along, snappy as snappy can be.
04:46pm 06/06/12 Permalink
TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
4936 posts
256gb is $189 now
03:53pm 07/06/12 Permalink
d^
Melbourne, Victoria
1014 posts
Who hasn't had an SSD fail for a substantial amount of time?

Me, I still don't even have one. I'm tossing up between a Crucial M4 which everyone seems to love on this forum or an OCZ Vertex 4.
04:06pm 07/06/12 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1074 posts
My OCZ loves to corrupt the OS for unknown reasons every so often. Yet its not losing capacity and I can find no other faults with it.
I don't store anything except the OS on it for this very reason, its been dodgy since day 1.
Wouldn't personally touch another OCZ.
04:18pm 07/06/12 Permalink
scuzzy
Brisbane, Queensland
15374 posts
Me, I still don't even have one
So you haven't had an SSD fail because you haven't bought a SSD?
04:26pm 07/06/12 Permalink
d^
Melbourne, Victoria
1015 posts
So you haven't had an SSD fail because you haven't bought a SSD?


Hah yeah now that you mention it I skimmed your original question. But technically yes :P
04:28pm 07/06/12 Permalink
iTOM
Brisbane, Queensland
1272 posts
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TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
4937 posts
yes iTom same link that i posted here
04:36pm 07/06/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6833 posts
I blue screen once every couple of months and then it won't detect the ssd when it reboots. Turn it off and on and it's there again!

Has happened maybe 5 times in the almost 12months I've had it.
OCZ 120G Vertex III
04:41pm 07/06/12 Permalink
icewyrm
Brisbane, Queensland
2499 posts
Seems like intel based SSDs are still a little bit more reliable than their cheaper competitors, at least from what I've read over the last few years.
04:55pm 07/06/12 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
13254 posts
my ocz II 64g is still cranking along, snappy as snappy can be.

Not sure how you even manage with that size.

I've been really careful to install every program on my SATA drive (Program Files and Program Files x86 are on that drive) and I am still using 60GB on the SSD.

reload, that sounds like a typical SSD problem that firmware updates can fix. Do you have the latest firmware?
05:01pm 07/06/12 Permalink
evıs
Brisbane, Queensland
6562 posts
intelll
05:16pm 07/06/12 Permalink
tspec
Melbourne, Victoria
3558 posts
The OCZ bluescreens related to the sanforce chipset I believe. I have actaully done firmware upgrades on several hoping it would stop it happening again but out of the five done in the last couple months, already had one fail since. It's worth doing the firmware update anyway though as it may help sort the problem.
05:19pm 07/06/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6834 posts
I went to update the sandforce thingy the day I got it but then when I tried to update it apparently already had the latest and fixed version.
I'm not too concerned.. nothing on it that can't be replaced and it still works perfectly other than that. Been doing it since day 1. shrug
05:27pm 07/06/12 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
12973 posts
for anyone who doesn't yet have one, they really are a top investment
the overall speed improvement to your entire pc is awesome sauce

the only thing that really s**** me is when i run out of space on it
i've had to move a few things from my crucial m4 (only 128gb) to a slower sata drive
but that can be remedied cheaper these days
06:10pm 07/06/12 Permalink
koopz
Brisbane, Queensland
9664 posts
do Crucial M4's come with the firmware fix already loaded in now or do you still have to DL and burn the ISO and do it yourslef?

for anyone who doesn't yet have one, they really are a top investment


couldn't agree more (if you're talking C-M4's or Intels) - though that said, an SSD upgrade is a good way to fast-track the death of a cheapy (or unreliable) motherboard.

I blue screen once every couple of months and then it won't detect the ssd when it reboots. Turn it off and on and it's there again!


that's exactly what turned me off them when I had easy access to them @ a previous workplace.

still - I would often take home a client's SSD (that was reported dodgy), ghost my own gaming PC OS onto it and use it flawlessly all weekend. It's hard to think it's not something else going on with the client's machine if I can't replicate the fault..

sometimes, we just have to accept that we lack the resources to test every option to get to the root of the issue..

it might just be something else in your PC causing the problem

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Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
33805 posts
i still got 10gig spare on my windows 7 install with the lot
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parabol
Brisbane, Queensland
7041 posts
Just so everyone is aware the Intel 520 drives are based on SandForce. However they've got Intel's strict quality control behind it, so they've fixed most of the bugs that have plagued the other manufacturers - even those that Sandforce themselves were unaware of. I think they spent a year on getting the firmware/hardware stable before releasing the drives, which I think is pretty cool.

Was about to get one, but I want to do full-drive encryption (with Truecrypt) for a laptop. Sandforce relies on compression for much of its speed, and encrypting a drive like that makes compression almost impossible - so you get a big performance hit. So the M4 may be the way to go if anyone is looking to encrypt their drive, as they don't rely on compression for performance.

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Viper119
UK
1556 posts
Generally good or bad views on the Intel ones? I'm looking at getting one to be the OS drive for my new build.
02:59am 08/06/12 Permalink
parabol
Brisbane, Queensland
7043 posts
Good so far. But then again it hasn't been out for that long. I remember the OCZ/Corsair drives had great reviews when they first came out, before people accumulated enough crashes to realise something was up with the drives themselves.

If you want to play it safe, go the M4 as that's kicking all the drives in terms of reviews/reliability. But I think the Intel ones won't be bad either - they typically sell reliable products overall.
10:00am 08/06/12 Permalink
SwissCM
Gold Coast, Queensland
168 posts
Theres a reason why the SSD thread on the SA forums is called "The SSD Megathread - F*** OCZ, Do Not Buy Their Products".

Basically, avoid OCZ at all costs. They're terrible. Sandforce isn't really the issue either since the Corsair Force 3 series use the same chip and they're quite reliable. Instead, it's mostly that there are reports that OCZ are using low quality/defective flash chips and have very low quality control standards.

I have a 2 Corsair Force 3 SSDs (a 128GB and a 64GB) and they work very nicely.
12:20pm 08/06/12 Permalink
piddlefoot
4 posts
Corsair force 3 here as well, awesome drive, megga fast game load times, windows runs faster smoother, movie editing is sped up, windows boot time is reduced alot, less noise from pc, damn thing cant cook bacon and eggs for me but !
Get an ssd if your a gamer.Run windows off if.
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