I don't know that Kinect would have the sensitivity and specific software built around it to harness for Flight Sims. I have a TIR 5 and it's great. You may be waiting a while for some Kinect specific solution to come about. As far as I know, Kinect just tracks skeletal information anyway, not small pointers like the TIR uses.

Plus I think TIR is cheaper than Kinect will be.

It depends on whether or not you want to tinker with a kinect sometime later down the line.

Not likely.

I bought my TIR5 direct from the states (INSANELY fast shipping... paid on Wednesday night @ ~2am, package arrived the following friday morning before work) as it was cheaper than buying in the au (incl shipping) by $40-50 at the time.

Where did you get it from?

Thanks!

Great thanks. Ordered direct.

Hit the vid below trog.

Specifically address at the 1 min mark, but the 5 minute vid explains (and demonstrates) some of the features (and you can see some of the drawbacks so-to-speak)




The 'motion scaling' itself takes a little getting used to (as does the system) but it really adds a massive amount of control when it comes to fine tuning, or the one place I've noticed it most is in a helo sim. It makes hovering in reference to the ground (so my eyes are looking for the direction the ground is drifting below me) I can literally move my head 15 odd degrees and look 90 degrees (so straight left or right) and can very easily identify if I'm drifting into a structure or cliff face etc without screwing about with buttons at all.

As far as I know, Kinect just tracks skeletal information anyway

Kinect tracks plenty more, it really comes down to the software. Expect to see plenty of API's and whatnot developed by enthusiasts. Don't be surprised to see something for flight simulator.

Kinect tracks plenty more,...

maybe, I mean I've seen what the Kinect actually tracks...

, it really comes down to the software.

There's the weakspot really.

I concede some really awesome stuff has been done by folks willing to mod wii-mote's, and tweak software for kinects, but I bought my TrackIR because it's a package that has support, integrated well into any of the products that have support for it, and is straight forward in application.

it's not for everyone (I still can't use it in driving games I find... I tend to use fixed reference points when cornering (e.g. fixed to the cars cockpit) and a moving camera just throws me waaaay off.

If you own a Kinect, hooray, you might finally be able to do something with it... for me, if I had to choose between the two now?

Well, the TrackIR still requires a hat, or headband/phones... but the reference point is consistent, and very well applied.
The Kinect (in technology terms) is capable of many things... but it isn't developed at all as yet, and is likely to be fairly hack and slash for a little while to come I think.

And then there's the price... before shipping the kinect for PC starts at $250 ($100 more than for 360.... why? is it a different unit? I really doubt that it would be, despite what the packaging or HN sales team tell you...)
http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/01/13/kinect-on-pc-more-expensive-less-useful-still-exciting/

WTF didnt that guy use the mic strapped to his fucking head...

lol, yea the vid is fairly quiet... I never noticed the lack of recording from the boom mic before

I've had a play with some serious simulators E.T. and you're on the money.... it would be pimp.

That being said, with this setup I can just use my computer desk, with 3x24" monitors (all angled back towards me) and still have a room usable for other things :P

That A-10 vid is awesome. in all seriousness, outside of hydraulicly mounting the entire room, the only other thing this guy is missing is the physical re-creation of the cockpit in the room and it'd be borderline milspec :P

EDIT: SWEET JESUS, if the 3xprojectors and screen weren't enough, have you looked at the price of 'Warpalizer'!?? 450 EURO's!!! and then you can buy it either for OpenGL OR DirectX... but not both!!!

You could run the projectors using eyefinity, and whilst you'd be tweaking the projectors (on any screen let alone curved) for a little while longer (maybe... I'm sure you'd still have to almost 'calibrate' the rendering frame for warpalizer as well, so maybe not) you could get very near the same result (unless I'm missing something...)

Have you seen eyefinity in action E.T.?

Whilst I know there are some nVidia fanboy's here (I used to be one) and I know nVidia are working on their own 'display spanning' interfaces for games, when you get eyefinity all hooked up, the end result is pretty phat. (and not 450-900 Euro's)

Yea I've got no doubt it would make setup quite a lot less painful by manipulating the imagery rather than the hardware per-se.

I think between Eyefinity (you can set it up to over-lay the image in the 'bezel adjustment' section) and the image adjustment on the projectors you could get it comfortably close to warrant saving yourself $1200+AU in software expense.

(if it is modifying the image, does that add any kind of delay or affect performance of the hardware at all? I mean does warpalizer interface at a driver level, or take a rendered image, 'tweak it' and then send it on to your display.)

http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/61303

OzBargain says Office Jerks are sellin 1080P projector's for <$1000

All you need is $2997 :P

that it would... right up until the IR camera lost sight of the reference point :P

tho in all srsns... that is kinda how the industry handles this sorta thing atm