Hey all, I'm thinking about upgrading from my crossfired 5770 setup to a single nVidia 570 in the next few days, and I was just wondering what brand is recommended. I'd like to get it from MSY, as they are just up the road from me near my work, making it quite easier to pick up. Now I'm currently running i5 2500k, 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM, 2x 5770 and a 700W PSU, and so I'm hoping to compliment my current setup.
What I'm wondering as well, is would it be more economical to just get 2x 560's and SLI them, or stick with getting a single 570 and maybe later on getting another for SLI.
I was stuck in the exact same situation a couple of months ago and elected to go the 570 Twin Frozr III edition
Although technically the twin 560 may be faster, I'm always hearing issues with games not properly supporting SLI, with the latest game for people to complain about being Battlefield 3.
Actually, from what I have read, people everywhere are complaining about BF3 constantly crashing on 560's and SLI setups, so yea if I was you I'd get onto the 570. (Which I am running now and it kicks ass)
Oh yea, I was eyeing that one off when I made my purchase.
Decided to go with better cooling as opposed to the higher clock speeds. By far the absolute coolest running GPU I have ever had and on average around 20 degrees cooler than my previous, unbelievable.
They are quite good still, but I'm just wondering if it's worth upgrading yet. What I've done is with my old parts I had (AMD mobo and AMD X4 965), is given them to my girlfriend so she can play L4D and Dragon Age, so I'm slightly inclined to upgrade graphics card so she can have my 5770's and I can have a beauty of a 570, or what I'm thinking is keeping the 5770's, and just getting something cheap for her, maybe a 480.
They are quite good still, but I'm just wondering if it's worth upgrading yet. What I've done is with my old parts I had (AMD mobo and AMD X4 965), is given them to my girlfriend so she can play L4D and Dragon Age, so I'm slightly inclined to upgrade graphics card so she can have my 5770's and I can have a beauty of a 570, or what I'm thinking is keeping the 5770's, and just getting something cheap for her, maybe a 480.
Ah well if it's for Dragon Age, then I approve.
So long as she isn't like one of my friends with an enormous e-crush on Zevran, in that case you may lose her to elf-puss-in-boots. >_>
So long as she isn't like one of my friends with an enormous e-crush on Zevran, in that case you may lose her to elf-puss-in-boots. >_>
She's in love with that elf dude in DA2, the slave one. Always wants to fuck him. She hates the gay human mage dude though, says his a dick. Half the shit she spews out about DA2 I don't understand, as I only played 10 minutes of it and gave up. She loves Fallout series and The Witcher though.
Anyways, I'm still tossing up between what 570 to get, as I currently have no real transport to Milton Umart, besides train, and I'm not sure how far it is from the station, compared to MSY at indro.
Was running SLi through the BF3 beta over 3 monitors. Don't know what you're talking about.
There are games that don't natively handle SLi but 30 seconds on the internet gives you a little program called NVIDIA inspector, and there you generally find one of the many compilations of settings some other has compiled to import. Once imported you'll see most games boosted. Though this only helped me on games from 2005+ (like GT4 etc)
Although, frankly, it's usually only dodgy low end games which don't get support from SLi. Nvidia often does the profiles themselves when game makers don't actually create multiple threads properly. Nvidia is good with support like that. Any release in the last 2-3 years which sold more than a few hundred thousand copies world wide and is slightly graphic intensive usually is supported out of the box.
The only people who are complaining are generally those who don't update their drivers but have the time to complain on a forum.
Actually, from what I have read, people everywhere are complaining about BF3 constantly crashing on 560's and SLI setups, so yea if I was you I'd get onto the 570. (Which I am running now and it kicks ass)
I think the problem with this was that gigabyte undervolted their 560ti OC edition and people then got instability from it. A bios released by gigabyte fixed these problems.
How? 4series cards don't support more than 2 monitors on at once. If you have two cards you can run up to 4 on at once though. I run 3 monitors off two cards, but it treats it as 5300x1050 res so I can never "full screen" any word or messaging or internet browser or else they span 3 monitors.
I'd get a AMD if you want 3 monitors - they have eyefinity which is a genius solution to running more than 2 monitors on a single dedicated card.
Edit: and to answer that question. If you want to run SLi, then yes, i'd get another of the same card. You'll run up to 4 monitors, and also if you want to play games across them the performance is usually pretty good. I'm running 470gtx sli (bought both second hand).
SLi though creates a lot of heat. I had to introduce 2 new case fans to stop the temps from going past 95c, now they're at 85 and my room heats up pretty quickly. Also they suck a lot of power.
So if you don't want noise, don't want heat, don't want huge electricity bills, go a single AMD card, but if you want more power for price, then go a second card in SLi.
Edit 2: One more tidbit about multi monitors with nvidia: in SLi mode you can only run 2 monitors again. In "Span displays with Surround" mode, you'll run all your monitors (i'd running 3) but then your game spans 3 monitors. There's no easy solution for having maximum performance, and also running 3+ monitors with only 1 doing games.
one running on the vga, one on dvi, and one in the hdmi
the only reason i used the vga, was i couldn't find another adapter,
it also wasn't something I did for any legnth of time, as i lack enough monitor of like size, and desk space (was dont for shits and giggles, but was done, and run none the less)
one running on the vga, one on dvi, and one in the hdmi
Even with all of the ports used, on a NVIDIA card (well until the 500 series), you can only have two displays active...
Are you sure you weren't disabling and enabling one of the monitors? I have spent a bit of time on looking at that myself. I have a 42"TV and 3x 22" monitors which i have to swap around and the internet mostly agree's that unless you have a 5series card (550, 560 or 590) that you won't see 3 monitors off one card..
i found this cheap gainward gts 450 since i am thinking about going SLI, and then i noticed the weird output they have.. it is almost as if it supports 3 screens? .. look how many outputs there are!!
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Two displays per one Nvidia GPU. I suppose the extra vga port is just there for an extra option. If you go with SLI, as you probably already know, you can run three displays.
Sharp looking card!
Yeah copius I definitely can't do it off this single card, and I am not super excited about running 2 cards TBH.
Having said that I'm not that excited about AMD cards either haha
If it was for a gaming PC I'd suggest do the SLi, if it's for just media watching and so on, just go the AMD imo. Doesn't need to be expensive. Does your motherboard actually support two card for SLi anyway?
Has anyone experienced any troubles with the Gainward graphics cards? I was just talking to the guy in that PC parts place in Toowoong, one near the station. He was saying every Gainward card his sold has been returned under warranty. Says Asus or Gigabyte would be best bet.
I was thinking of getting a gtx580 but I was going to wait for the next price drop (which will probably happen when the next gen comes out). Any ideas when this will happen ???
She's in love with that elf dude in DA2, the slave one. Always wants to fuck him. She hates the gay human mage dude though, says his a dick. Half the shit she spews out about DA2 I don't understand, as I only played 10 minutes of it and gave up.
Weird, I thought that Anders (and his extra along for the ride) were awesome. His story carries over hugely from Dragon Age Awakening though (which was pretty sweet, in every new expansion/game/dlc they always seem to use one party character from a prior story).
DA2 does get better after the first 10 minutes, if you liked DA1. It's nowhere near as epic and enormous and awesome as DA1, but it's still pretty damn good.
So long as she isn't like one of my friends with an enormous e-crush on Zevran, in that case you may lose her to elf-puss-in-boots. >_>
Glad you approve. And I do have a major crush on Zevran - fucked him first playthrough and now I'm on my second, but I had Fenris in my party who i'd romanced already and he did not approve of me sexing more than on elf :(
Weird, I thought that Anders (and his extra along for the ride) were awesome. His story carries over hugely from Dragon Age Awakening though (which was pretty sweet, in every new expansion/game/dlc they always seem to use one party character from a prior story).
DA2 does get better after the first 10 minutes, if you liked DA1. It's nowhere near as epic and enormous and awesome as DA1, but it's still pretty damn good.
I just... I hate clingy, overly emotional guys.
Anders was a whiney little bitch who ruined everything.
I didn't have Sebastian, but totally have to play both dragon ages through at least six more times each, with all characters, some day.
I replayed the DA1 Dalish intro the other day to see if Merril was mentioned, and was super surprised that she was actually a party member. Then I played witch hunt, and it was all about that damn mystery mirror too. So much unexpected intertwisting.
Anders was a whiney little bitch who ruined everything.
This video with loud angry music which I stumbled across the other day begs to differ. :P
I think you can get totally different characters out of him, depending on how the Justice/Vengeance possession situation works out.
Thinking of cross firing 2 6770's they seem dirt cheap at the mo and want more bang for my buck. ($99 per card powercolor)
Any idea's comments? Basically for a gaming rig in particular BF3 gaming...
You get what you pay for really. Have a look around on google, try "the brand name 6770 review". You'll usually find some good reviews outlining any problems.
Rather than starting another thread i may aswell hi jack this one. I want to get an nvidia 580 but i have no idea which ones are any good. I'm currently running a 6950 so is it worth upgrading yet? or should i wait for the next gen cards next year some time?
Yeah I have two different 470GTX's both with 3 fans each and the one from inno3d takes up 2.5-3 slots The Gigabyte is slightly lesser clocked (although the box still says superOC) and it still has 3 fans, but only takes up the standard 2 slots.
The problem with 3 slots is i needed a wireless card for a brief period, so I had the 3 slot on top, the 2 slot underneath and the PCI wireless card under that. There was 0 space between the two video cards, the actual frame for the inno3d fan shorud was less than 3mm from the gigabyte card.
Luckily i'm back to wired network so i removed the wireless card, so instead it's the 2 slot gigabyte on top and the 3 slot inno3d one under, that at least leaves a 1 slot gap between them for a tiny amount of airflow.
I made a bracket to hold a fan above them too to add more air flow. If you are into wall mounted network/electrical plates you might have seen this bracket before..
Just wanted to add an aside, see how the gigabyte here has all 3 fans run the same direction?
the inno3d runs the back and centre pulling the air down between them and the front and centre pushing the air up.
I think the inno3d is far cleverer it's also why my fan blows air down on the back of the cards to try and assist with what i call that "Spill air" which is basically the air that doesn't get pulled into the fan shroud and into the heatsink fins but spills out.
Hey all, I'm thinking about upgrading from my crossfired 5770 setup to a single nVidia 570 in the next few days, and I was just wondering what brand is recommended. I'd like to get it from MSY, as they are just up the road from me near my work, making it quite easier to pick up. Now I'm currently running i5 2500k, 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM, 2x 5770 and a 700W PSU, and so I'm hoping to compliment my current setup.
What I'm wondering as well, is would it be more economical to just get 2x 560's and SLI them, or stick with getting a single 570 and maybe later on getting another for SLI.
I saw somewhere that 2x560's are a pretty solid choice, I ended up just going for a single 580 though.
I would have to recommend an ASUS Direct CU II 570, my card (the 580 version) is AMAZINGLY cool and quiet, plus comes factory overclocked, is usually cheaper compared to the other cards and comes with some nice software / headroom for OCing.
not far from the train, and trauma had recommend the same card as I have,
go the gainward,
do it
you know you want to
I remember seeing (while hunting around) a comparison on the gainward VS direct CU II version of the 580 and the ASUS one beat it out by a small margin while being cheaper.
I would imagine the same holds true for the 570.
OH and to bepatient, My 580 version of the same card I've never seen it go over 70 under heavy load, it's currently (at 7am) running 34 degree's idle (it's probably 25 ambient atm).
Just ran Crysis 1 on mostly Very High for about 10 minutes and checked it, it was at 58 degree's. And in the time it's taken me to type this sentence out, it's gone back down to 34 idle lol.
Having a look on Umart, brand new 460 is still worth $200 or so. Interesting considering a GTX 560 is same price. I think I'll hold out, going to get this 570 on the weekend and the girlfriend can have my 5770's.
Doesn't use SLI, it's ATI which uses Crossfire. I would recommend just buying another off Umart, $144.
was just wondering Eorl, how that asus gtx 570 direct cuii is holding up? what games do you play on it with etc? thinking of getting that or the gainward gtx 570 phantom, but just cant decide! :/
Never got the Asus upon further reflection, instead got the Gigabyte version, the OC'ed one. Going awesome so far, plays BF3 on ultra, though I turn shadows off in all games I play, hogs resources, and don't really like them.
plays BF3 on ultra, though I turn shadows off in all games I play, hogs resources, and don't really like them
I have a similarly stock-overclocked 570 card (EVGA). I can play BF3 at 1920x1200 on all Ultra with shadows on full without the slightest stutter.
It's anti-aliasing (and related AA options) that're almost always the biggest framerate killers and most people put them onto full, without realising the game will look better overall and run faster cranking everything ELSE up but keeping AA at around 2 or 4X. In the extreme case (e.g. Crysis 2 uber-detail), high AA settings can actually make the game look horribly blurry.
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Just wanted to add an aside, see how the gigabyte here has all 3 fans run the same direction?
the inno3d runs the back and centre pulling the air down between them and the front and centre pushing the air up.