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glynd
Melbourne, Victoria
381 posts
I recently just bought a custom computer via umart. They didn't have the graphics card in stock to waited a week. I got an email last friday saying:
"Your order has been processed,we are now assembling and testing your system.A ready confirmation email will be sent to you as soon as your machine are ready to be pickup"
Waited until today to give them a call and they've just informed me that the parts are ready but they haven't built it. Despite going through the "system build" form and emailing them about getting it "built", they haven't taken it into account for some reason.

......................

TL;DR - umart aren't building my computer despite jumping through the right hoops and saying so in emails and claiming there's a 5 day turn around for it to be built.


So considering picking up the parts now and doing it by myself out of spite. I've replaced graphics cards and ram but never build from scratch. Looked up a few tutorials and seems pretty simple. Zip lines, screw drivers and avoid touching certain parts of the components.

As long as I follow instructions and check on tutorials, is it difficult to put together your own computer from scratch with little previous experience? Anything I should be wary of?


Here's the build.
Intel Core i5 2500K Processor LGA1155 3.3GHz CPU
ASRock Z68 Extreme4-Gen3 Z68 4xDDR3 3*PCIex16 GBL RAID DVI HDMI DS
Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3
OCZ 120G Vertex III Series SSD
Western Digital CaviarGreen 2TB 64MB SATA 3
Gainward GTX570 1280M DDR5 2DVI HDMI Goes Like Hell
Samsung 22X DVDRW Black SATA (SH-S223C-BL)
CoolerMaster RC-912A-KWN1 HAF912 Advance Ver w Window
SilverStone ST85F-P 850W Strider Plus Power Supply
03:09pm 29/09/11 Permalink
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Sc00bs
Brisbane, Queensland
7848 posts
i got a mate to help me put mine together, the new mobos have heaps of new bits/ connections ive never seen and im useless at putting cpu's in.

its pretty much plug n play and if u read the manual im sure it will be pretty self explanatory.
03:13pm 29/09/11 Permalink
hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
9473 posts
So, are you asking a question?
03:18pm 29/09/11 Permalink
m3nt4l
Brisbane, Queensland
1386 posts
There are some decent diagrams in the mainboard books, just don't use too much thermal paste (or too little), don't force anything, if it doesn't slide in make sure you have everything the right way.

03:18pm 29/09/11 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
942 posts
tbh putting together a pc is easy, and hard to fuck up

putting it together and making it looks nice and tidy is the bitch
03:20pm 29/09/11 Permalink
DeadlyDav0
Brisbane, Queensland
919 posts
So, are you asking a question?

lol. Thought the same thing.

IMO make Umart build it for you. Sure, it takes a few days but you avoid the chance of your brand new PC being fucked because you did something wrong. I replaced plenty of ram, vid cards etc back in my day but i only every put a PC together once and it was a terrifying experience because i knew 1 wrong step n it was fucked.
03:20pm 29/09/11 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
33053 posts
building a pc is simple (but fiddly), but its madness to do it yourself.

if you have ANY issue with any of the parts, getting them fixed under warranty is going to be a nitemare.

sounds like you just did a bad job of ordering your pc.

i deal with umart and msy all the time, no issues with getting any of my pcs built
03:21pm 29/09/11 Permalink
Sc00bs
Brisbane, Queensland
7849 posts
yeah mine didnt turn on about 5 tries, finally found 2 connections with no power cables connected to it.

they seem to be pretty sturdy these days
03:22pm 29/09/11 Permalink
tspec
Melbourne, Victoria
3249 posts
I've built heaps of machines over the last 15yrs. If you live near umart VIC and get really stuck, let me know.
03:22pm 29/09/11 Permalink
hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
9474 posts
tbh putting together a pc is easy, and hard to fuck up
lol
when i was a pc systems builder, i saw a lot of failed attempts. most common one was screwing the motherboard directly to the case without the supports. second was getting stuff wrong - ie miswiring the front usb ports and shorting out the mobo. third was when people liked to 'customise', like too much paste on the cpu etc. there were other errors that weren't showstoppers, but otherwise bad, like having 6 drive bays available and mounting two hard drives together, and just general sloppy build practices.

oh and OP i used to build PCs like yours all day long, if it took 40 mins from boxes on the table to booting to BIOS, then i was taking too long. srsly.
03:25pm 29/09/11 Permalink
glynd
Melbourne, Victoria
382 posts
So, are you asking a question?


haha, just realised that. added.


and not trying to bash on umart. ordered parts from them before and they've been nothing but awesome. just surprised this time that the invoice was for "system build", emails saying it's being built and tested but really was just getting the parts.
03:28pm 29/09/11 Permalink
Tiny
Brisbane, Queensland
2857 posts
If you are going to go down this track get someone to help you do it who has done it before. You could miss one cable and spend hours figuring out what mistake you made.

e.g You could plug the power cable in the wrong place on the mobo. You could spend a long time looking at the wrong thing trying to work out what you did.

I was stoned once and forget to plug the IDE cable in on a CD rom. I spent hours toiling over it. Moral of the story, don't get stoned and try and build a PC.
03:28pm 29/09/11 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
943 posts
lol
when i was a pc systems builder, i saw a lot of failed attempts. most common one was screwing the motherboard directly to the case without the supports. second was getting stuff wrong - ie miswiring the front usb ports and shorting out the mobo. third was when people liked to 'customise', like too much paste on the cpu etc. there were other errors that weren't showstoppers, but otherwise bad, like having 6 drive bays available and mounting two hard drives together, and just general sloppy build practices.

oh and OP i used to build PCs like yours all day long, if it took 40 mins from boxes on the table to booting to BIOS, then i was taking too long. srsly.


i would class the front usb ports as making stuff look pretty, in fact in the old case it would often take me many months (if not a year or two) to plug them in (they had a plug per wire, not the nice new all together jobbies now)

as for the screwing part (pun intended) that comes from not reading the basics i would think (or have a basic understading that metal on metal for something that uses elec is bad)
03:31pm 29/09/11 Permalink
Superform
Netherlands
6950 posts
make sure you apply the thermal paste on the cpu correctly.. its prob the only thng a noob misses when building a pc - you tube it when the time comes
03:44pm 29/09/11 Permalink
CHUB
Brisbane, Queensland
8120 posts
Be careful with the CPU, don't go bending any pins and shit... that seems to happen quite a lot.
03:45pm 29/09/11 Permalink
evıs
Brisbane, Queensland
6489 posts
lol pins
03:53pm 29/09/11 Permalink
tspec
Melbourne, Victoria
3250 posts
make sure you apply the thermal paste on the cpu correctly.

If he's using the stock cooler, it'll have a thermal strip already on it and he won't have to bother with paste.
03:53pm 29/09/11 Permalink
Tiny
Brisbane, Queensland
2858 posts
If he's using the stock cooler, it'll have a thermal strip already on it and he won't have to bother with paste.


One thing I have noticed with i7's. I have built two i7 systems now and each time I needed an aftermarket cooler. Even when not overclocked the fucker was peaking at 60-70 degrees. So i just bought an aftermarket cooler and it dropped to 30-35 idle. 35- 40 under load and overclocked.
04:03pm 29/09/11 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
945 posts
Be careful with the CPU, don't go bending any pins and shit... that seems to happen quite a lot.



pins.....on the cpu?, that shit is so 2005
04:11pm 29/09/11 Permalink
CHUB
Brisbane, Queensland
8121 posts
Seems like I'm too far of date, disregard :P
04:16pm 29/09/11 Permalink
glynd
Melbourne, Victoria
383 posts
Cheers for the advice.

Don't have any mates that can help me out this weekend so might just get umart to do it. Would have liked to do it myself for curiosity sake but for warranty and irreparable first timer mistakes, probably not worth it. if it was a lower end basic home PC, i'd be all for it.
04:18pm 29/09/11 Permalink
tspec
Melbourne, Victoria
3251 posts
As mentioned, happy to give you a hand if you need if you don't live bajillions of miles away. No biggs.
04:39pm 29/09/11 Permalink
BladeHunter
Sydney, New South Wales
4713 posts
It's harder to fuck it up than it is to get it right. Most things in a PC only fit where they are meant to go and only the way they are meant to go.
05:04pm 29/09/11 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
4498 posts
Just make sure the heat sink is on right. Seriously, it's the only thing you can probably do wrong in modern computers.
06:17pm 29/09/11 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
776 posts
Honestly, if I was building a cheap(ish) system, I'd build myself.
If you're going to drop a good deal of cash on a high end system you may as well get it built.
for the potential chance of destroying a ~$800 video card for example you may as well spend ~$50-80 getting it built.
06:35pm 29/09/11 Permalink
m3nt4l
Brisbane, Queensland
1387 posts
How do you destroy a video card putting it in?
Actually how do you destroy anything putting it in?
06:40pm 29/09/11 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
19880 posts
^ static electricity?
06:41pm 29/09/11 Permalink
Vash
2996 posts
back in the day i killed a few main boards trying to pry a heatsink on the CPU with a screwdriver. those were downright fuckers. gotta love the modern ease of it all
06:43pm 29/09/11 Permalink
m3nt4l
Brisbane, Queensland
1388 posts
06:51pm 29/09/11 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
777 posts
Actually how do you destroy anything putting it in?
Could always accidentally slip or even just accidentally drop a component, doesn't necessarily have to relate to the action of sliding it into place.
07:35pm 29/09/11 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
4500 posts
I built my first PC at 13 and i've never let anyone else build my computer since. Mostly because all that extra effort (about an hour of deboxing, clicking shit in running cables, cutting cable ties and booting up) makes me appreciate the up to a couple of grand worth of machinery. Also I know I can make it right.

To be it's confusing how people can sit on their computer for hours per day, perhaps at work for 30+ hours a week and not even have a basic grasp of how the components even connect to peripherals.
07:38pm 29/09/11 Permalink
m3nt4l
Brisbane, Queensland
1389 posts
Could always accidentally slip or even just accidentally drop a component,


If you accidentally slip or drop a component worth hundreds of dollars you have bigger problems with life.
07:46pm 29/09/11 Permalink
hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
9475 posts
To be it's confusing how people can sit on their computer for hours per day, perhaps at work for 30+ hours a week and not even have a basic grasp of how the components even connect to peripherals.
I disagree. Just because you're the driver doesn't mean you need to be the mechanic too.
08:01pm 29/09/11 Permalink
dazedandconfused
Sydney, New South Wales
319 posts
building a pc is simple (but fiddly), but its madness to do it yourself.


The first PC I built was on my own by opening up my own old PC and winging it. Honestly it is so easy you can just look at a photo of an open case and couple that with the motherboard manual and put it together like that.
08:02pm 29/09/11 Permalink
Murderer
Tasmania
1745 posts
type in how to build a computer into youtube

theres some dude who does it all from scratch in like 3 vids.

gets it running on the mobo box first then installs into a case
08:03pm 29/09/11 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
779 posts
If you accidentally slip or drop a component worth hundreds of dollars you have bigger problems with life.
So you've never slipped or dropped anything in your life... *ever* ?
08:48pm 29/09/11 Permalink
m3nt4l
Brisbane, Queensland
1393 posts
Once when I was 13 in England, it was raining and I was wearing hiking boots, coming back from a 50 mile walk in Dartmoor, I got off the bus and stepped on a metal drain cover and slipped. I didn't slip over though, I found grip with my other foot and shifted my weight and carried on like a boss.
09:07pm 29/09/11 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
8293 posts
Crap ending to that story.
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