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Do I really want to buy a mac?
Caveboy
Brisbane, Queensland
133 posts
I've just gone back to study and am in the market for a new laptop. I've surprised myself and am actually considering switching to the dark side by purchasing a 15" Macbook Pro. This is largely to do with my positive experience with my jailbroken iphone that has been the single sexiest piece of equipment i've yet owned.

It’s either a Dell XPS for $1500 or Mac for $2500.

Is the sexiness really worth an extra grand?

Basically all I will be using the laptop for is word, excel and watching porn.
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Reverend Evil™
Wynnum, Queensland
18603 posts
So you'll spend an extra $1000 to watch porn. F*** that.

EDIT: For $1000, i could go to Club 88 and get four roots from the girls. Much better than browsing porn. Although the only bad thing at Club 88 is you cant go down on the girls unless they use that dental dam thingy.

>8-(
04:37pm 20/05/11 Permalink
ScrotumPhantom
Brisbane, Queensland
24 posts
if your only going to be using word and watching porn you only need a netbook or even just a piece of paper, a pen and some vaseline.
04:39pm 20/05/11 Permalink
kappa
Brisbane, Queensland
1508 posts
04:40pm 20/05/11 Permalink
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
33677 posts
First of all, haha @ kappa's sig

Second of all, you need to consider what else you can do with the ~$1000 you'll save by buying a Dell. You could buy an ipad with the leftover cash.
04:42pm 20/05/11 Permalink
Caveboy
Brisbane, Queensland
134 posts
You sold me Kappa. Thanks!



04:43pm 20/05/11 Permalink
d0mino
Brisbane, Queensland
5105 posts
Get a mac. Especially if you are a buffoon. I love my mac.

04:43pm 20/05/11 Permalink
Caveboy
Brisbane, Queensland
135 posts
$1000 cheaper for essentially a machine with more grunt really should be a no brainer. Darn you apple and your sexy branding!
04:45pm 20/05/11 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
3686 posts
Get a ipad for at uni, get a desktop for at home. same total price.
04:46pm 20/05/11 Permalink
Mantorok
Brisbane, Queensland
5831 posts
Get the Dell and $1000 worth of beer.
04:46pm 20/05/11 Permalink
Tiny
Brisbane, Queensland
2646 posts
When I see people with Ipads i want to throw a brick at them.
04:48pm 20/05/11 Permalink
Reverend Evil™
Wynnum, Queensland
18604 posts
Get the Dell and $1000 worth of beer.

THIS!

Or spend that $1000 at Club 88 and root some girls. Or maybe spend half of it on beer and get two girls. Either way it's a win win situation.
04:51pm 20/05/11 Permalink
Jayman
Brisbane, Queensland
351 posts
The base model 15" MBP is $1999 with an education discount. +117 for higher res screen, or +180 for hi res + anti glare, but even the default res is better than the Dell so I don't think you'd need either. The Mac has a better CPU (i7 vs i5), but worse graphics if you want to game.

Both laptops are probably overkill for your needs. Macbooks do look and feel great, they age well if you want it to last, won't really look dated in a few years time and hold they're value very well compared to windows laptops, so you can chuck it on ebay next upgrade and get a good price for it still. I'm confident that if you spent the extra on the mac you wouldn't feel ripped off anyway. They're a top machine and you defiantly get the feeling you got what you paid for.
04:53pm 20/05/11 Permalink
Caveboy
Brisbane, Queensland
136 posts
Rev didn't you pay like 6k for a desktop recently?
04:55pm 20/05/11 Permalink
simul
Brisbane, Queensland
1156 posts
Basically all I will be using the laptop for is word, excel and watching porn.


If thats honestly all your using it for, just get a cheap dell.
04:57pm 20/05/11 Permalink
Reverend Evil™
Wynnum, Queensland
18605 posts
I dropped $3000 on a new system. I think it was Trilly that dumped the big dollars. And with the money I saved I went to Club 88 and got some girls and had a good time.
04:58pm 20/05/11 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6206 posts
nah
04:59pm 20/05/11 Permalink
dranged
Brisbane, Queensland
1857 posts
Get the 13" Macbook pro.
for portability 15" it's too large.
You can also throw in a SSD later for extra oomph.
Or look at Macbook Air? They are pretty decent too and SSD built in.

The build quality on these unibody macs is so good now, that I would expect 4 or 5 years good use out of it before 'needing' to upgrade.
05:01pm 20/05/11 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
10113 posts
Rev, you have something on your mind you want to share bud? lol

I have never had sex with a prostitute. Not because I'm above it - just because I really haven't felt the need to. I know if I did have sex with a prostitute I sure as s*** would not go down on one.

If PC's do your head in then buy a Mac.

Personally I love the technical and open-hardware aspect of PC's, so I have never bought a Mac.
05:01pm 20/05/11 Permalink
kryzil
Adelaide, South Australia
120 posts
cheap small macbook air 11.6" one if you really want a mac i spose.
05:03pm 20/05/11 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
9655 posts
Get the Dell and $1000 worth of beer.

Seriously, that's a f***en lot of beer.

Do what this man says.
05:04pm 20/05/11 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
293 posts
get the dell, chuck the $1000 in the bank, use it to buy a new laptop in 3 years,

will last longer than the apple for the same cost
05:07pm 20/05/11 Permalink
Caveboy
Brisbane, Queensland
137 posts
get the dell, chuck the $1000 in the bank, use it to buy a new laptop in 3 years,


Or get the mac, sell it in three years and actually get something for it?
05:09pm 20/05/11 Permalink
Reverend Evil™
Wynnum, Queensland
18607 posts
I have never had sex with a prostitute. Not because I'm above it - just because I really haven't felt the need to. I know if I did have sex with a prostitute I sure as s*** would not go down on one.

I've always wanted to go to a brothel just for curiosity's sake. However they aren't all they're cracked up to be though. Although I've always gone when I'm drunk so that might have something to do with it. Maybe if I was sober and I could connect with the girls and share my feelings things might have been different.
05:10pm 20/05/11 Permalink
foolix
Brisbane, Queensland
108 posts
15" MBP $1999 with education discount - Lighter, thiner, higher res screen, better battery life, better build quality (aluminium unibody etc etc)...
05:17pm 20/05/11 Permalink
Infidel
Netherlands
3544 posts
wouldnt get it if I was a student worrying about money but why hasnt anyone else made laptops with build quality like the unibodys yet?
05:18pm 20/05/11 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
294 posts
Or get the mac, sell it in three years and actually get something for it?



I honestly dont think the resale value is better than the money saved

if you spend 2500 on some, and can sell it in 3 years for 800, you have a laptop or 800 bucks

or spend 1500 on a dell, in 3 years you'll have a laptop, and 1000 plus whatever interest, or a wall of empty glass bottles from the beer, anyway after three years, you can have a laptop + money/beer, or buy an apple and have no beer, or only 800 worth of beer and no laptop

resale is hardly going to be anywhere near the money saved
05:22pm 20/05/11 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
10944 posts
mac +1 for all the reasons outlined in the officeworks thread and my post about the charger specifically
05:44pm 20/05/11 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
9102 posts
A mac is a nice idea.
But you will probably end up wanting to run a program that is windows only and so you will probably want to buy fusion/paralleles... and a copy of windows.
So on top of the "MAC" tax you pay a MS tax.

imo get a desktop and an ipad... and probably some piss
06:05pm 20/05/11 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
6953 posts
13" MBP would be a better choice.
06:19pm 20/05/11 Permalink
RockitMan
Brisbane, Queensland
6035 posts
I bought the 13" Macbook Pro a few months ago and I'm very happy with it but still don't really understand the Mac OS. I haven't put effort into learning all the shortcuts and how to do things though. That said, I love the build quality of it - the keypads, touchpad, everything is just solid and perfect.

I bought it on education discount and got a free ipod touch which i sold so it was a good deal for me. I also installed an SSD - never tried it without the SSD but it's pretty damn quick now - 17sec bootup. If you can spare the coin you cant really go wrong with a MPB but I would never buy a laptop over 13".
06:31pm 20/05/11 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
10950 posts
RockIt man you can often think of the Apple key like a Windows key, lots of shortcuts are the same
I was in your position once and I didn't take the time for ages, but when I did it was well worth it

if I could give you one bit of advice, go and setup mouse gestures

click on System Preferences and then 'Expose & Spaces', spend 2 minutes in that for great success
06:41pm 20/05/11 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
297 posts
so i just went thru and spec a dell 15" xps in silver

win 7 ultimate
2nd gen i7 (2.3ghz, or TB 3.4)
HD led screen
backlit keyboard (because it a nice touch)
8gig ram, 1333MHz,
normal 750gig hd
Blu ray burner
2gb geforce 540m
5.1 audio
9 cell battery (for that extra life)
tv tuner (it was like 40bucks extra)

$2561.48, not to bad for around the same price as the mac (but this option give you no spare beer money)

yes the mac is good, the girl ended up with a mac air (which meant i ended up with an SSD, so i was happy) and she is happy with it, but wasn't happy about the dosh spent, (she is suffering a little buyer remorse but mostly down to the price factor)

i look at it this way, if this was a car, it is like asking should i spent $X on a c class merc or $Y on a falcon, well, you could spend $X on a G6E turbo, which has lots of good points over the merc,

the merc has a better build, but are you going to really use it more than 5 years, if not, the ford will do

you could get the falcon and spend the rest on beer (and in if this was the real case, the difference between the dollar values would keep you drunk so long if will be time to get a new car by the time you sober up)

both do the same job at the end of the day, are you going to be using it more than 4 hours a day?, if so get the up spec'ed dell or the apple, if not save your pennies and get drunk
06:43pm 20/05/11 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
18494 posts
I've always wanted to go to a brothel just for curiosity's sake. However they aren't all they're cracked up to be though. Although I've always gone when I'm drunk so that might have something to do with it. Maybe if I was sober and I could connect with the girls and share my feelings things might have been different.

or if they looked like mandy moore?
06:43pm 20/05/11 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
298 posts
oh and much like the merc/apple ford/dell, you'll get to see want options/features are on their way

like the very old saying goes, wanna see what windows is going to look like, buy a mac,

and as teq/rockitman have kinda hinted, there is a learning curve, but it should take long to get into,

i would still save the money unless your going to be using it alot, both play porn pretty good
06:51pm 20/05/11 Permalink
mission
Brisbane, Queensland
7602 posts
Just get the 13" for $1.5, done.

Coincedently that's what I have and it's great. I'd ever spend much more the $1.5 on a laptop though... that's alot dollar.
07:04pm 20/05/11 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
362 posts
Get a ipad for at uni, get a desktop for at home. same total price.


there's sense in this.

Tho copius' argument is sound also.

I like the look of the 11" Macs atm, I think that'll be my next lappy.

if I were going to uni today (and the uni supported iPads like the ACT uni's do) you'd be mad not to consider one...
07:10pm 20/05/11 Permalink
dranged
Brisbane, Queensland
1858 posts
The basic 13" (which is what I have) is A$ 1,399.00.
EDU discount is another 9-10% off that I recall. So call it $1300.
Macbook Pros are right at the end of the product cycle so if you want a really fast mac with little or no issues, this is the one to get.
I put in a SSD and it's significantly quicker. You could basically just use it as it and then in a year or two buy a SSD and it will be like new.
07:12pm 20/05/11 Permalink
RockitMan
Brisbane, Queensland
6036 posts
Yeah this probably sounds stupid but for my uses I can't really ever seeing having to upgrade this macbook pro in the foreseeable future. I just use net and office on it, nothing too intensive, and with the SSD everything is instant. Haven't even looked into the specs to see if you can even game on it...
08:29pm 20/05/11 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
10952 posts
I play portal2 on mine, under OSX
i dual boot to windows but i rarely bother unless I need to run some obscure app that only runs under winblows
09:06pm 20/05/11 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
18501 posts
I play portal2 on mine, under OSX
i dual boot to windows but i rarely bother unless I need to run some obscure app that only runs under winblows

I just use vmware fusion for that, used to dual boot but windows is a battery whore.
09:21pm 20/05/11 Permalink
RockitMan
Brisbane, Queensland
6037 posts
Yeah I read you only get 1 hour of battery under windows?
09:49pm 20/05/11 Permalink
Mr.Bumpy
Melbourne, Victoria
477 posts
If you don't need the high resolution of the 15" display or the graphics card just go the 13" MacBook Pro. You'll have a portable, kick-arse and refined laptop with awesome build-quality and still have 1.2k leftover! That's just $200 shy from a 21.5" iMac or a gaming desktop PC!

RockitMan, when you're in Finder (Mac OS X's Explorer) and there's a file you want to preview without opening the associated program just hit the space bar, then hit it again to escape. Also, make sure you use the four finger gestures on the trackpad. Swipe up with four fingers pushes all windows aside to reveal the desktop; swipe down goes in to expose to show all windows.
10:41pm 20/05/11 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
10954 posts
three fingers left & right will go forward/back with your browser
10:49pm 20/05/11 Permalink
Jayman
Brisbane, Queensland
353 posts
three fingers left & right will go forward/back with your browser


I always enable 3 finger dragging personally. And tap to click is must.
11:02pm 20/05/11 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
10957 posts
why not just use one finger dragging?
it's right under tap to click
11:18pm 20/05/11 Permalink
foolix
Brisbane, Queensland
109 posts
Macbook Pros are right at the end of the product cycle so if you want a really fast mac with little or no issues, this is the one to get.

Not really, its only been 85 days since update:
Recommendation
Neutral - Mid-product cycle
Last Release
February 24, 2011
Days Since Update
85 (Avg = 201)

http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#MacBook_Pro
11:21pm 20/05/11 Permalink
koopz
Brisbane, Queensland
9368 posts
it'd be good to see more Mac action on this forum
11:54pm 20/05/11 Permalink
Jayman
Brisbane, Queensland
354 posts
why not just use one finger dragging?
it's right under tap to click


I used it for a while but found it activating accidentally a lot.
12:00am 21/05/11 Permalink
koopz
Brisbane, Queensland
9370 posts
I used it for a while but found it activating accidentally a lot.


for a second there i thought you were talking about the VM version.. but there's no such thing
12:18am 21/05/11 Permalink
mission
Brisbane, Queensland
7604 posts
Four fingers down is also a winner.

I should try that tap to click option as the only thing that doesn't work so well for is dragging stuff.... but other than that the trackpad is awesome.......
06:14am 21/05/11 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
32000 posts
f*** no to the mac, do you have rocks in your head!?
07:01am 21/05/11 Permalink
HerbalLizard
Brisbane, Queensland
4927 posts
Spook you still on the hate wagon hey

Just buy the 15" some ram and swap out the optical drive for an ssd and bracket from owc
07:07am 21/05/11 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
32001 posts
no, im against forking out extra cash for no return

if macs were competitively priced id consider them*





*lolz, no i wouldnt
07:09am 21/05/11 Permalink
imitation
Brisbane, Queensland
4784 posts
My next computer that isn't for work will run linux. My next phone which isn't for work will be an android.
07:29am 21/05/11 Permalink
Clubby
Brisbane, Queensland
570 posts
Work just let me buy myself a new lappy (well 6 of us) and we went with these:

HP 8560W

With mostly the higher selections on the options -eg-

Intel® Core™ i7-2820QM (2.30 GHz, 8 MB L3 cach
16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 SDRAM
Up to: 750 GB (went with size over speed cause we want to run some virtuals on it)
NVIDIA Quadro 2000M with 2 GB dedicated DDR3 video memory
etc

I think they came out around $2600 each or something (not sure if that's work pricing or normal pricing but we usually don't buy HP so probably not far off retail).
08:40am 21/05/11 Permalink
hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
9027 posts
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HerbalLizard
Brisbane, Queensland
4928 posts
Clubby...snip
I looked at this as an option too, since we are in the hp camp as well. Mostly for the new work notebook that's coming post tax cheque

But I think I might stick with my original thought which is the 15" mbp running on 16gb of ram
09:15am 21/05/11 Permalink
evıs
Brisbane, Queensland
6449 posts
Only get a mac if you are a total f***** who hates money.
09:21am 21/05/11 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
32003 posts
reckon
10:47am 21/05/11 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
10959 posts
thats like saying only buy a mercedes if you are a f** who hates money
they're more expensive than a commodore but they do the same thing, one is just better than the other

learn to love it

haters gunna hate
01:05pm 21/05/11 Permalink
BillyHardball
Brisbane, Queensland
12139 posts
Like a lot of others in this thread, I strongly recommend the 13 inch MacBook Pro. The size and speed is fkn awesome. The new models are so fast you don't really need an SSD, but I'd recommend upgrading RAM yourself to at least 4 gig.

Airs are really really damn nice, but too expensive when you consider you can get the MBP for the same price. I'm thinking about trying to convince my supervisors to buy me an 11inch just for super portability.
01:33pm 21/05/11 Permalink
Timmeh
Brisbane, Queensland
358 posts
buy whatever the f*** you want.

I have a Dell Laptop, I dont like it.
I have a Asus Laptop, I dont like it.
I have a gaming PC, I like it.
I have only ever owned a ipod nano, and that about the most experience i have with apple,
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