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Battlefield 4 - General Discussion
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1057 posts
Well, figured I'd post this thread for general discussion, as pretty much every other BF4 thread was aimed at servers / beta / something specific.

Quick question to get the discussion started:

I bought the Mexican VPN version, but origin is saying it unlocks on the 31st like the Aussie version. Obviously I'm gonna have to VPN to America to play on launch, but will that also affect battlelog or will I need a US proxy set up on my browser as well?

Did anyone do this for BF3 launch and have any idea what to expect?
11:39am 28/10/13 Permalink
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11:39am 28/10/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
468 posts
Pretty sure you have to keep running through the VPN and therefore you'll be sitting at 180ms+. That's what I seem to be reading here when I look at people talking about if for BF3 a year ago.

On another note: What time on the 31st does it launch? I'm feeling a sicky coming Friday.
11:47am 28/10/13 Permalink
Malthius
Brisbane, Queensland
961 posts
I'm feeling a sicky coming Friday.

Me too.... oh, wait, no. That wouldn't be a good idea.
11:51am 28/10/13 Permalink
Lithium
Rockhampton, Queensland
456 posts
I also got a mexican edition. Im preloading at this very moment-- Had to use flyvpn and connect to a mexican server to enable the preload option on origin. Once it started downloading you simply disconnect from the vpn and it continues downloading at full speed. I dont want to be around at 9pm tonight when preload begins in Aus lol.

I remember when BF3 released, flyvpn was under too much load for most people to use and activate the game. I recall using some other more obscure vpn tool to activate the game from whatever country it was that had the earliest access. Once the game had activated release on origin there was no problems playing through battlelog on my aus connection. I suspect it will be the same for BF4.

Read somewhere the earliest release time is 2am Tuesday morning.
11:52am 28/10/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10523 posts
Me too.... oh, wait, no. That wouldn't be a good idea.

Don't think you'd want to entrust everything on me just yet hah. Wirl, I presume it will be just like BF3's launch, in that using a VPN doesn't do anything to Battlelog and you can go about your business shooting down jets. We'll have servers up for those who nabbed the cheap deal so you aren't left in the dark battling 600 pings.
12:01pm 28/10/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10557 posts
Singapore/Korea etc is the earliest unlock. I will try unlocking and see if it stays unlocked. If not I'll wait for the aussie unlock time I guess.

Not that anyone cares but apparently xboxone runs it at 720p and ps4 at 900p.

also my origin name = alexctd
(origin lulz)

last edited by ctd at 12:09:31 28/Oct/13
12:05pm 28/10/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8780 posts
BF3 was the Jew version, BF4 is the Mexican version..

Ok so I bought my copy from cjs-keys and they said it should all be OK and no stupid f*****g Russian patch file situation again. I ended up getting BF4 + China + Premium Membership.. figured I'd go all in.

Edit: TicclesAU is me.
12:43pm 28/10/13 Permalink
TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
5909 posts
I bought just basic Battlefield 4 from ozgameshop for $52. Will be buying Premium but haven't bought it yet as i will wait till the game launches to see who is selling it for the cheapest price.

My Origin is BushySquirrel
12:55pm 28/10/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1060 posts
Pretty sure you have to keep running through the VPN and therefore you'll be sitting at 180ms+. That's what I seem to be reading here when I look at people talking about if for BF3 a year ago.On another note: What time on the 31st does it launch? I'm feeling a sicky coming Friday.


I suppose I can wait a few extra days then, if I have to keep the VPN on. I'll be in class for most of it anyway.

As for what time it launches, it says "Available: 31st October 2013 - 00:00" So I'm assuming midnight launch. So you should be right to play it on thursday / friday. Sick day awaaaaay.

Singapore/Korea etc is the earliest unlock. I will try unlocking and see if it stays unlocked. If not I'll wait for the aussie unlock time I guess.



If it stays unlocked, then booyah! Let us know if it works out.


Not that anyone cares but apparently xboxone runs it at 720p and ps4 at 900p.


last edited by ctd at 12:09:31 28/Oct/13


People have been saying it for ages and people have been denying it, saying it doesn't matter or just plain out calling names.

Kinda makes you think that the "next gen" consoles will leave much to be desired...
12:59pm 28/10/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17566 posts
Not that anyone cares but apparently xboxone runs it at 720p and ps4 at 900p.


at 60fps, which is more important than 1080p imo.
01:19pm 28/10/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1062 posts
at 60fps, which is more important than 1080p imo.


It's still a let down, considering what people were hoping for for "next gen"

Basically, if you have a half decent PC now, don't expect to be upgrading for the next 10 year console cycle -_-
01:37pm 28/10/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
469 posts
I was just going to buy it from EA, the wankers.

Iron Bunnies will have pub heroes playing non-stop probably for the first few days. If anyone who wants to join in for some fun, feel free to join us on TeamSpeak.
01:43pm 28/10/13 Permalink
BiGGGGRED
Sunshine Coast, Queensland
2 posts
Any news on when we can have config access through the website. Also does anyone know when procon will have a update so we can add it on there also
02:31pm 28/10/13 Permalink
Dremark
Sydney, New South Wales
1 posts
Any news on when we can have config access through the website. Also does anyone know when procon will have a update so we can add it on there also



Gday,

My server is now online.

There is a Procon Release Candidate 1.4.1.0 for testing. (not available through the updater)

https://forum.myrcon.com/showthread.php?6389-Myrcon-Procon-1-4-1-0-RC

Cheers.
02:54pm 28/10/13 Permalink
imminentsoldier
4 posts
03:02pm 28/10/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1971 posts
I can wait for the release date for BF4, I'm not that eager to bother with VPN's etc even though I'm still keen for the game. One thing I'm not really a fan of is this whole water warfare focus :[ I'm sure there is plenty of content though.

03:13pm 28/10/13 Permalink
Dremark
Sydney, New South Wales
2 posts
there is no support yet for bf4 on proconhttps://forum.myrcon.com/showthread.php?5813-Download-Procon-1-X



Gday,

I am using 1.4.1.0 (RC) atm for my BF4 server.

After a few minor changes Procon will update to 1.4.1.1 on or just after release of BF4.

Cheers.
03:37pm 28/10/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
473 posts
I can wait for the release date for BF4, I'm not that eager to bother with VPN's etc even though I'm still keen for the game. One thing I'm not really a fan of is this whole water warfare focus :[ I'm sure there is plenty of content though.

Same, keen as f***. But cbf with a VPN and dealing with s***. If you played the beta, the water warfare didn't screw with the standard type of play, even though the original Battlefield had driveable Carriers and Destroyers.

Oh the fun of T-Boning the enemy carrier with another carrier.
03:41pm 28/10/13 Permalink
imminentsoldier
5 posts
Gday,I am using 1.4.1.0 (RC) atm for my BF4 server.After a few minor changes Procon will update to 1.4.1.1 on or just after release of BF4.Cheers.


I downloadd and added the server. add vars.adminPassword command to the config to set an admin password but it keeps saying incorrect pw for me?
03:51pm 28/10/13 Permalink
imminentsoldier
6 posts
Looks like you can only download v1.4.0.9. or that's what the download link is only downloading.

Edit: sorry for double post.
04:01pm 28/10/13 Permalink
Malthius
Brisbane, Queensland
963 posts
imminentsoldier: I don't do support via the forums, but...

There was a port conflict on one of your servers, so it couldn't grab the rcon port. I've changed the port assignment and its online properly now. Check your server config page for the new port details.
04:05pm 28/10/13 Permalink
imminentsoldier
7 posts
ok thanks

Edit: problem fixed. :D

thanks Malthius.

Just 1 question. do I need to set maxplayercount to 64 on the 70slot server to allow for 4 spectators and 2 commanders?
04:08pm 28/10/13 Permalink
Malthius
Brisbane, Queensland
965 posts
So we don't derail this thread: anything about server rentals, configs etc goes over here: http://www.ausgamers.com/forums/general/thread.php/3370238

Lets keep this thread just about playing BF4 etc etc.
04:37pm 28/10/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1064 posts
So we don't derail this thread: anything about server rentals, configs etc goes over here: http://www.ausgamers.com/forums/general/thread.php/3370238Lets keep this thread just about playing BF4 etc etc.


I'd suggest making a sub-forum specifically for server rentals imo. Split that into each of the main games you host, have tech support sub forums etc.

Would make it a lot cleaner. (Unless you've already done that, I havn't actually checked tbh :P)
06:05pm 28/10/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1068 posts
By the way, I think the game officially launches for the US at 2pm-ish Sydney time. Don't forget to get your VPN's cranking :P

If you're desperate, grab Fly VPN. Works a charm.

See you all there.
09:09pm 28/10/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10527 posts
I'm eager to see some of this "levolution" in action, really hoping for another open-area map. I just wish DICE would go back to themed expansions, like Bad Company 2's Vietnam pack, that was an awesome addition to the game. Also wish we had more destruction in being able to level the entire place and not set key points.

I'm still cautiously optimistic on BF4, though I guess that is in part due to the really badly optimised (and old build) open beta. One part of me thinks its just a BF3 expansion and the other part hopes to see more because what has been changed is interesting. Oh the dillema!
09:15pm 28/10/13 Permalink
evıs
Brisbane, Queensland
6670 posts
Preload is up now.
09:30pm 28/10/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1973 posts
I don't want BC2 type destruction, just ruins the level and game play when there is no structures around.
09:33pm 28/10/13 Permalink
Everlong
63 posts
Flood Zone looks interesting (sorry clueless how to imbed yt)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLaa9vpxJwI
09:37pm 28/10/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10529 posts
I don't want BC2 type destruction, just ruins the level and game play when there is no structures around.

Yeah I guess, though at least more destruction than what we have in BF3 would be nice. Maybe not on BC2's level, but somewhere in-between.

Everlong, just right click a YouTube video and select embed code, then copy/paste.
09:39pm 28/10/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17568 posts
09:40pm 28/10/13 Permalink
Adsa
Melbourne, Victoria
25 posts
I'm feeling a sicky coming Friday.


Done sickie booked.
09:41pm 28/10/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1974 posts
24gig download :o
10:22pm 28/10/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1069 posts
I'm still cautiously optimistic on BF4, though I guess that is in part due to the really badly optimised (and old build) open beta. One part of me thinks its just a BF3 expansion and the other part hopes to see more because what has been changed is interesting. Oh the dillema!


Considering the specs for BF4 are basically identical to BF3 (except more RAM) I'd imagine that it will probably run pretty similar as well.

Apparently the beta we saw was a super old version (older than the version they were showing off at cons etc) so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
10:23pm 28/10/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1975 posts
bf4 battlelog loads
10:36pm 28/10/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1976 posts
There are some single player campaign weapons, only get them if you finish SP :|
10:38pm 28/10/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10531 posts
There are some single player campaign weapons, only get them if you finish SP :|

Didn't they do that with BF3? Or was that MoH?
10:55pm 28/10/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1977 posts
10:56pm 28/10/13 Permalink
Audi
Perth, Western Australia
503 posts
3hrs boys.
11:00pm 28/10/13 Permalink
Ronnny
33 posts
activate game through vpn, join aussie server, disable vpn. Just like bf3.
12:30am 29/10/13 Permalink
Ronnny
34 posts
There's not 1 hardcore server worldwide, wtf?
01:12am 29/10/13 Permalink
Ronnny
35 posts
All works and now playing.
02:51am 29/10/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1070 posts
All works and now playing.


How? I thought the game didn't go live until 2pm tomorrow? Or are you connecting via korean VPN or something?
02:55am 29/10/13 Permalink
Ronnny
36 posts
Yep korean or mexican vpn, then disable and play. Heaps of people are on. Game runs sweet.
03:28am 29/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1551 posts
I did the VPN thing but I don't see anyone in servers, thats okay though lets me do campaign :)
(only see 1 person on a local server)
08:43am 29/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1552 posts
Urgh,
Game seems to be running perfectly fine framerate wise but whenever I move mouse + keyboard (circle strafe around a corner for example) its this god aweful stutter/tearing. So much so occasionally its almost like multiplayer lag and rubber banding and appears like there is missing frames.

Frame rates are ~70 with no drops so that's not the issue.
Not resolved by V-Sync or changing the mouse input to/from raw etc.

Latest drivers and my older drivers do the same thing.
Ideas?
10:26am 29/10/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
481 posts
What card you running and do you know how much VRAM you're sitting at? (Could be VRAM paging)
10:28am 29/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1553 posts
GTX590.

I've tried on the absolute lowest settings the game will allow.
There is zero difference.
Firefights, explosions etc. all going off, no problem.
Touch the mouse no probs. touch the mouse + keyboard to turn a corner smoothly.. Yeah, tearing issues.
10:30am 29/10/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
482 posts
So it seems to be happening when new textures and geometry appear? What is you walk backwards and repeat a second time? A 590 was a...... 3GB card? Giving you 1.5GB VRAM total.

Fire up afterburner/precision and check your usage. I'm not sure how low the game scales but I know you can go past 3GB on a single panel.

I'm curious to see fixes for as many probs as possible so all the boys can get in and enjoy on Thursday arvo.
10:34am 29/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1554 posts
Its not textures and geometry appearing. Happens even in a tiny corridor. Or staring at a wall for example.
Its purely related to mouse + keyboard inputs simultaneously.

Beta didn't do it.

Walking forwards or backwards is a non issue. Its only the dual inputs.
10:36am 29/10/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8781 posts
What's with the Mexican thing, is it just to get a jump start on the AU release date or something?
10:40am 29/10/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1072 posts
What's with the Mexican thing, is it just to get a jump start on the AU release date or something?


Yeah, instead of waiting until the 31st because "you're Australia, f*** you".

Also, what VPN is everyone using? Hotspot shield is twaddle and Fly VPN (the one I've been using) is pretty much at maximum capacity (I'd assume everyone around the world is trying to use it to play BF4 lol).
10:49am 29/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1555 posts
What.... Once I got out of the start area which was in tiny corridors it had all those tearing issues.. Got outdoors into a huge open area and the tearing/problems went away.
Go figure?
10:55am 29/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1556 posts
http://www.vpngate.net/en/

Connect to any korean/mexican. Open origin, launch campaign. As soon as cloud data is sync'd, disconnect.
10:56am 29/10/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8782 posts
Ah OK I got it.. I still haven't got my key from cjs yet :(
11:11am 29/10/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1073 posts
Ah OK I got it.. I still haven't got my key from cjs yet :(


Don't rush, so far the game seems to have rubber banding issues, hit rego issues (I crouched behind a wall, then a sniper killed me despite not being able to see me from the angle he was at while crouched).

I hopped in an armoured artillery vehicle and just crashed out too.

Game plays super smooth on ultra with my 7990 though :D
11:40am 29/10/13 Permalink
DeadlyDav0
Brisbane, Queensland
4203 posts
I crouched behind a wall, then a sniper killed me despite not being able to see me from the angle he was at while crouched

Reminds me of BLOPS2 MP when i tried it on a free weekend. So bad.
11:43am 29/10/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1978 posts
Damn it 25 gigs to download!
11:49am 29/10/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1074 posts
Damn it 25 gigs to download!


That's why pre-loading has been available for over a day :P (Assuming you VPN'd it)
12:00pm 29/10/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1980 posts
yeah but im close to my usage (i don't have a lot) :[

*shakes fist*
12:25pm 29/10/13 Permalink
Coldy
Brisbane, Queensland
241 posts
Pre-loaded last night. 40mins. Great speeds off Origin.

http://i.imgur.com/P8g0xKG.jpg
12:53pm 29/10/13 Permalink
TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
5913 posts
you probably called download a torrent version and use that as the copy?
01:10pm 29/10/13 Permalink
Coldy
Brisbane, Queensland
242 posts
no TiT, that's the speeds me and a few of my mates were getting last night. The joys of Telstra Cable.
01:58pm 29/10/13 Permalink
TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
5914 posts
no TiT, that's the speeds me and a few of my mates were getting last night. The joys of Telstra Cable.


yeah i know i was talking about people who wanted to download it but haven't received there key yet or want to play single player before release date :)
02:03pm 29/10/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10541 posts
I don't know if I want to put my GTX570 through this much pain...
02:13pm 29/10/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10558 posts
Damn flyVPN is clogged as f*** with everyone using it for bf4!

downloading that vpngate to give it a try
02:15pm 29/10/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1075 posts
Damn flyVPN is clogged as f*** with everyone using it for bf4!

downloading that vpngate to give it a try


Yeah, was having trouble, but I took the avice from the last page and got on for a while earlier :)
02:28pm 29/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1557 posts
What.. Don't download anything for vpngate.
just connect to it through windows as a VPN connection.
I'd probably recommend you *dont* download anything.
02:33pm 29/10/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10560 posts
jokes on you, I already have, so suck it

all good now, activated, it was just some auto vpn installer for noobs and the most worstest virus known to man

last edited by ctd at 14:40:07 29/Oct/13
02:39pm 29/10/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10561 posts
played half a round on the train map. horrible sound issues and lag. Loaded to a map with lots of little islands and game froze. sick.
03:20pm 29/10/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1981 posts
Eorl, I've got a 570 and the beta ran fine for me. It didn't run as nicely as BF3 did though.
03:22pm 29/10/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8783 posts
13hr download.. :(
03:49pm 29/10/13 Permalink
Pandaemonean
Queensland
51 posts
Fraps this s*** so I dont have to go on ur gay f*****g Mexican VPN and get caught up in a pedo sting operation.

EDIT: Show off the jets.

EDIT: f*** this permanent 24hour post limit.
03:56pm 29/10/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10543 posts
Eorl, I've got a 570 and the beta ran fine for me. It didn't run as nicely as BF3 did though.

What settings were you running it at? I think from memory I had it on "medium" with shadows off and blur off, seemed to run alright, but didn't look pleasant :S
03:56pm 29/10/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10562 posts
I keep getting this f*****g error:
http://i.imgur.com/z7I45y3.png
windows 8
i5 750 @ 3.8ghz
gigabyte gtx 770 fac OC
8gig ram
SSD 256gig

The 770 is factory overclocked, some have reported as underclocking can fix. Maybe I am overheating?

Any ideas?
04:17pm 29/10/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1076 posts
Fraps this s*** so I dont have to go on ur gay f*****g Mexican VPN and get caught up in a pedo sting operation.


Stop looking at pictures of naked children and you won't need to worry.

And CTD, try updating to the newest drivers (331.65 or whatever) and see if that helps at all.
04:18pm 29/10/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10563 posts
oh fark thought I had the latest ones. gg ges*** experience.
04:28pm 29/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1558 posts
Running everything on Ultra with the exception to "effects detail" that has to be on high.
i7 2600k
6gb Ram
GTX 590.
...

In campaign coming out of the Shangai tower (the beta one).... 6 frames per second [raining, bucket loads of water in the air + lots of reflections on the ground + raindrops creating splashes I assume is the framerate killer).. :|
Turn it down to high from ultra and was getting 50-60 frames again.

Have left it on that playing through campaign and its been fine so far. HAven't tried multi, not really any local servers with people on them
04:52pm 29/10/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
494 posts
^ Wouldn't be surprised. Crysis 3 had 2 massive lag spikes. One with water then you splash in it, or shoot it. The other was objects that swing from ropes and wires etc.

It was quickly identified and fixed by Crytek though.

---------

Anyone who is reinstalling drivers over and over and finding faults, be aware that Afterburner and Precision (if you use it of course) can/may corrupt your videocard drivers during install. If it does, this will manifest as slow/pissy performance, crashing ranodmly, not starting randomly, even youtube vids blacking out. After years of playing with drivers, I recommend that you

1: Revert your clocks to stock through Afterburner/Precision.
2: Close down After/Prec COMPLETELY (check processes)
3: Install the driver using Clean Install method.
4: Reboot before touching After/Prec.

See if that helps. After people give up in gaming forums they go to videocard manufacturer forums, and a good 20-30% of the time it's been found to have been caused by the above. Even EVGA recommend it and they make the software.
05:29pm 29/10/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10546 posts
I'll be unlocking this later tonight, will jump onto my server to see how things play out but I think my main go is single-player first. Never actually finished Battlefield 3's campaign, bugged out about 10 minutes in and could never go any further.
05:33pm 29/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1559 posts
Well I finished SP. its uhm, very short and ends rather abruptly with a lot hanging.

Geez by short I mean. I had the SP running for 7 hours.
In that time I've done cleaning of house, out for lunch, mowing lawns etc. etc. etc.
SP is only about ~4ish hours long I'd say.
05:45pm 29/10/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1982 posts
07:34pm 29/10/13 Permalink
Lithium
Rockhampton, Queensland
457 posts
Played about 40 minutes worth and the first 2 missions on the campaign.

Just discovered Operation Metro v2. sigh.
08:02pm 29/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1560 posts
Played about 40 minutes worth and the first 2 missions on the campaign.

That is without kidding, about 28% of the campaign completed already.
It's so insanely short I am left wondering if the DLC/expansions will contain some SP to them this time around
08:56pm 29/10/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10547 posts
Sigh, time to upgrade my GPU. What's the consensus, GTX770 or one of those new 280X AMD cards?
09:31pm 29/10/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1079 posts
Sigh, time to upgrade my GPU. What's the consensus, GTX770 or one of those new 280X AMD cards?


280X is basically a 7970 iirc. So just go check out benches. Though if you play lots of Physx games, you'll miss it when it's gone (Borderlands 2 just ain't the same!).
09:59pm 29/10/13 Permalink
baz
Victoria
173 posts
Does it have voip or do you need to communicate with morse code on the jeep horn like BF3?
10:02pm 29/10/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1080 posts
Does it have voip or do you need to communicate with morse code on the jeep horn like BF3?


Squad only.

Now if only the servers would be hosted on something other than a 486... Can't get a good f*****g game between the laggy servers and the random f*****g CRASHING every other game.

And the ANNOYING thing is the exp from my 100% is applied AT THE F*****G END of the game... I can't GET to the end of a game, so that was a f*****g waste...
10:25pm 29/10/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8784 posts
Which servers are available to play on, are they AU based or ones from overseas where BF4 is already released?
10:45pm 29/10/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10548 posts
Which servers are available to play on, are they AU based or ones from overseas where BF4 is already released?
All of our servers are available to play on right now. Once you've unlocked the game via VPN you cna ditch the VPN and play as normal. I'm getting about 25 ping to my server atm.
10:49pm 29/10/13 Permalink
Lithium
Rockhampton, Queensland
458 posts
You know its a s*** game when this stuff like this happens.

What were they thinking?

12:57pm 30/10/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10555 posts
Haha that was brilliant. Guess they were just spamming the knife key, which is something I kind of do if I happen to turn around a corner and find someone there.
02:37pm 30/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1564 posts
F*****g lol there are some glitches in this that should never have made it.
On rounds with one life (such as defuse mode).
The entire server you will just randomly start switching into spectator mode, whilst alive.
If you're spectating yourself, fantastic you can do something.... otherwise... wait until you're spectating yourself again.
Rather funny watching the entire server running into walls shooting at the air and all the "wtf's"

Worst bug ever.
02:42pm 30/10/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17577 posts
You know its a s*** game when this stuff like this happens.


more like s*** players
02:50pm 30/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1565 posts
Well, first experience of jets are that they are totally f*****g useless.
A tank will kill one from halfway across the map in a few rounds but takes like 6 seconds of continuous fire from another jet to bring them down.
The flying area for the stealth jet was stupidly small almost forced to do continuous circle and pretty much in range of every AA known to man.

avoid them.

Attack jets seem much better. Too laggy at ~250ms to do much with them though. But still seem fragile
03:40pm 30/10/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1081 posts
Well, first experience of jets are that they are totally f*****g useless.A tank will kill one from halfway across the map in a few rounds but takes like 6 seconds of continuous fire from another jet to bring them down.The flying area for the stealth jet was stupidly small almost forced to do continuous circle and pretty much in range of every AA known to man.avoid them


Welcome to pretty much every BF since BF2 / 1942 Desert Combat.

The thing that really s**** me is there's no independant land / air vehicle sensitivities. I might have to delv into ini's to see if they're hidden or something.

Also, for anyone with Xfire, make sure you grab the latest 13.11 v7 drivers. "Up to 20% extra scaling in BF4".
03:51pm 30/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1566 posts
Yeah, its not a case of "welcome to" if you saw how many 10's of thousands of kills I had with the BF3 jets.

Found a local server with ~53 odd. lucked into getting a jet to test it out.
Insane 'turbelence' type lag with huge rubber banding as hell even with ~23 ping.. Even swapping views would swap a few times due to the lag.

Not complaining, it should smooth out over a few weeks. Just giving an idea of what to expect when people who haven't unlocked early get in.
03:55pm 30/10/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10558 posts
Mephz are you playing on Oz servers or overseas ones? I know not many are full at the moment but I have seen a good handful active so should be able to get some low ping games.
04:00pm 30/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1567 posts
I just tried the local. Jets are definitely broken as hell with the rubber banding currently. (ping 21).
Was just in metro v2.0 (only worse) then crashed.

Ah seems i didnt crash, admin changed the map (yeah, operation locker is really that bad)

Another map with jets. laggy and rubber bandy (ping 21). A quick google "bf4 jets lag" yields they just seem to be.. broken.
04:04pm 30/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1568 posts
Why did they get rid of server queuing? spamming join is such a step backwards :/

Asked a few people on different servers now. Seems to be very common problem people experiencing rubber banding with jets (and jets only - heli's are ok).
Lots of people getting random EA disconnects too.
04:25pm 30/10/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
507 posts
I played for 3 mins this morning before work to test.

Random colours everywhere (should be drivers), rubber banding non-stop while walking (I was going through proxy still)

Home time now, i'll be back.
04:33pm 30/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1569 posts
God there is bugs everywhere. Its like Battlefield (original) all over again.
I had my back to a solid concrete wall, below ground... Got killed by a guy.. inside the wall according to kill cam..
05:09pm 30/10/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10561 posts
We've heard reports of Multiplay and Gameserver having some trouble with their servers, however haven't heard reports yet on AG side of things. If you guys want, can test my server out and see how it handles: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/servers/show/pc/55aceae8-efb5-44e9-ae90-fe92e5fe6431/Team-Dslyexic-Hosted-by-AusGamers-Conquest-HC/
05:11pm 30/10/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10565 posts
anyone confirm that you lose the remainder of your ammo magazine when you reload? Apparently it is on by default accidentally
05:57pm 30/10/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
509 posts
God there is bugs everywhere. Its like Battlefield (original) all over again.I had my back to a solid concrete wall, below ground... Got killed by a guy.. inside the wall according to kill cam..

I loved Battlefield 1942..

Re: VPN's. After you guys have activated, preloaded etc (as I have) - Origin seems to want to disable the game each time I boot the computer. - What's the exact process you are using to keep it activated?

If you're using the VPN each time, how long do you need to run it, and can you get into servers without having to use the VPN?

Eg: Boot computer, (quit Origin), log into VPN, start Origin, disable VPN, load a match?
06:11pm 30/10/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10566 posts
If I restart origin I have to use a VPN again.

Maybe someone knows better cause I have only played a few dodgy games so far... I've had to keep the VPN running until connected to a server. Once in server disconnect VPN and reconnect to bf4 server. zzzzzzzz
06:20pm 30/10/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
510 posts
With the game alt tabbed and left running I assume?

What VPN are you using? My router won't do its thing properly (minimal VPN passthrough support) but the hidemyass software seems to tunnel through that. The guy who gave my his login yesterday is afk and I really wanna plllaaaayyyyyy..... :(
06:23pm 30/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1570 posts
anyone confirm that you lose the remainder of your ammo magazine when you reload? Apparently it is on by default accidentally
Seems to be.

Ph33x I posted earlier how to bypass and where.
vpngate.
Just create a windows VPN, open origin. Load single player (until the menu screen) --> quit singleplayer, diconnect VPN..
Connect multi.
As long as you never close down origin you can pull plug from router for all it cares (i've disconnected and resynched multiple times).
I havent' re-authed/VPNd since yesterday, just left my PC up.
06:25pm 30/10/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8786 posts
No hardcore servers? Wtf is this pansyness.
06:27pm 30/10/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8787 posts
I just used one of the VPNs on VPNGate to launch Origin so BF4 became available, then disconnected. Found a server on Battlelog and hit join and it looks like it's all working as intended.

Was a bit of magic in connecting to server, then disconnecting VPN, then reconnecting to the server to get it to login.
06:35pm 30/10/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10567 posts
These sound cutouts are soooo annoying. Think I am going to wait for thursday/friday and hope it is fixed. Want my first big MP session to be good.
06:43pm 30/10/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10564 posts
Yeah pretty much use Mephz VPNGate suggestion (http://www.vpngate.net/en/) and connect to single-player, let it sync to the cloud then close off the VPN. Don't log out of Origin and you are all sweet to keep playing Australian servers with minimal ping.
06:50pm 30/10/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
511 posts
Yeah but as I said, my router won't allow a standard VPN connection through it. At first I thought it was laggy VPN servers, then I tried a legit service with a random user/pass and it still wouldn't connect.

Had to use some software which probably has its own type of tunnel, figured borrowing a paid service would be best bet. All good, I got the login now.

Cheers for the step by step though, sp just loaded fine. It's awn!
06:58pm 30/10/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10566 posts
No hardcore servers? Wtf is this pansyness.
I'll be running hardcore only, and hopefully do a mixed one soon when DICE sort out the issue of Battlelog reporting smaller player caps when you choose a smaller map/mode.
07:00pm 30/10/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8788 posts
I like the cut of your jib Eorl!
07:16pm 30/10/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10568 posts
tried the SP. holy crap s*** the FOV sucks. give it a miss.
07:31pm 30/10/13 Permalink
Malthius
Brisbane, Queensland
980 posts
anyone confirm that you lose the remainder of your ammo magazine when you reload? Apparently it is on by default accidentally
That is a server variable that is meant to be on for hardcore and off for normal (and whatever you like for custom). If the server reports as normal, it should be locked off.

No hardcore servers? Wtf is this pansyness.
As Eorl mentioned, there is a bug in Battlelog (or the server, not sure) that prevents the servers being found with the hardcore filter. I know some of our AusGamers Server Rentals (subtle plug!) customers have set the servers up to be hardcore, so as soon as its fixed...
08:01pm 30/10/13 Permalink
Everlong
64 posts
Apparently you have to check 'custom' not hardcore to see HC games.

I get a red screen of death and a PC restart at map change. Tried 3 different drivers. Glad I went with AMD since they and Dice are working together to give us the smoothest gaming experience...
09:32pm 30/10/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1983 posts
10:26pm 30/10/13 Permalink
Audi
Perth, Western Australia
507 posts
lolz.
10:35am 31/10/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
516 posts
lolz.

r u havin' a gigl m8 ?
10:40am 31/10/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10569 posts
Sound cutouts are doing me f***en head in like. Not the only one with the problem. hoping the c**** fix it soon.
11:00am 31/10/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10571 posts
Alright my server should actually be hardcore now, seems there are a few bugs regarding settings for servers at the moment that DICE are hoping to fix soonish. I've yet to actually get into a game but glanced last night and a handful of servers were full after the unlock, though presume low numbers were due to it being 11pm on a Wednesday.

Also, do not play single-player. It is atrocious, boring and too many doors. Its pretty though, has that going for it, but about it.
11:02am 31/10/13 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
58 posts
God jets look so horrible.
11:21am 31/10/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
518 posts
I see the jittering mephz was talking about when moving and using the mouse. If you look closely however, it's always on the mouse. You just notice it more when strafe/circling the edge of a wall etc.

Hopefully it's a simple mouse fix in the next patch. It almost felt like it got worse through the first 5 mins of campaign.
11:44am 31/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1571 posts
If anyone is getting stuttering almost 'texture' loading type microstutters.
If you are using Win7 + i7 processor this is the culprit.
Disable core parking, game runs a thousand times better now..
01:37pm 31/10/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
524 posts
Oddly enough, none of my cores were parked and all of them were in use.

I'll try that though when I get home.

Are you running a multi-card system?
01:43pm 31/10/13 Permalink
TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
5922 posts
So I have been more interested on how Commander mode is especially with Tablet. (As i would love to play some battlefield in lunch time). So read to day it wont launch till November 19

http://bf4central.com/2013/10/battlefield-4-commander-tablet-app-launches-november-19th/
02:08pm 31/10/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8790 posts
Stupid game, only played it for like 2 hrs and already bought a better video card this afternoon :(
06:46pm 31/10/13 Permalink
RuleofBooKz
Other International
379 posts
well i just checked my registry and seems some of my cores could be parked (max value vs min value)so fixed that. thx for the tip
07:15pm 31/10/13 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1453 posts
I get sound cut outs too. I was hoping they would make the tank shell trajectory longer. Same with sniper rifle, it drops quickly.
07:33pm 31/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1572 posts
Sniper rifles have zeroing. Drop doesn't matter if you zero correctly as the scope is adjusted accordingly, much like a real rifle.
Zero too far and you will have to aim down a little, zero too close and you'll have to aim up.
Most distances are 200 & 400m zero's, not many maps are over that.

Gave commander a go. Spamming team chat with what was happening and where to move tanks + issues orders, deploying C130's and supply drops etc. People seemed to appreciate it.
Utilised the evac orders when you could see an entire team converging on one point, then got those guys to move to a different less guarded area etc.

Team did really well and got some shoutouts so that was cool.
I was expecting you could do a lot more as commander but really comes down to whether or not your team wants to listen to move orders
08:28pm 31/10/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10582 posts
Most maps seem to work well with a good commander, but that Metro-like snow map is just stupid. Corridors: the game. Overall though had a heap of fun, played with a squad of friends on TS and worked out really well.

I've only experienced a crash once so far, booted back in and it was alright. Running everything on medium but did turn AA and lighting off/low.
08:32pm 31/10/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8791 posts
Jesus f***, the game on Ultra video settings is amazing.. can't wait until kids (and wife) are in bed so I can get back into it.
08:32pm 31/10/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1985 posts
Has anyone downloaded new nvidia drivers for bf4? made much of a difference? I'm still on the same version as I used on the beta (320.49).
08:36pm 31/10/13 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20712 posts
Logged in last night. I was blown away.
09:08pm 31/10/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1086 posts
Logged in last night. I was blown away.


Get better, scrub :P
09:34pm 31/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1573 posts
[edit] seems latest patch you need parking and the patch now creates issues without parking.
Weird
10:34pm 31/10/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1986 posts
Sweet, played with no FPS issue, only 1 server crashed
11:15pm 31/10/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1574 posts
Cool. Had a server crash on me. Now I can't join anything for the last 45 minutes just get

"ERROR
Game disconnected: client closed down connection."
or
"Game disconnected: could not join server."
or any other type of variations.
Tried resynching internet, reboot. updating PB. "repair" under origin.

[edit]
Can launch singplayer fine.
Can join servers with 1 person on it fine.
Can't connect to any server with decent amount of people on it.
Sigh. GG EA/Origin/DICE.
11:50pm 31/10/13 Permalink
Pandaemonean
Queensland
52 posts
Dont know if DICE is just lazy or stupid (probly both) but if they don't apologise for this train wreck release the game media should burn them.

Then again the entire industry is morally bound by advertising funds.
12:17am 01/11/13 Permalink
3x0dus
Townsville, Queensland
1811 posts
hope its so bad they offer a free game or two if you buy it like they did for sim city lol, is premium worth it tho?

any bargains around for standard/premium version?
03:14am 01/11/13 Permalink
funky
Canada
1820 posts
i really want to get into this on PC (loved battlefield 3 (even though i played on the 360)) but i think i'll have to pass, can't afford to buy a PC good enough to run it! i'll just have to observe from the sidelines until I'm settled back down somewhere i guess! the PS4 price of $399 is mighty tempting though
04:32am 01/11/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1088 posts
hope its so bad they offer a free game or two if you buy it like they did for sim city lol, is premium worth it tho?

any bargains around for standard/premium version?


Yeah, it's only like $30 if you use a mexican VPN and buy it from origin. Ignore the $399 price tag, that's 399 pe$o's
09:10am 01/11/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8792 posts
I bought BF4 + Premium Pack from CJS for AU$114 (GBP64.99). Works fine and no language hack thing either like BF3 had.
09:28am 01/11/13 Permalink
TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
5924 posts
The game seems to run alot smoother than the beta in terms of FPS. However I've only really played 32 player Rush maps. As I prefer Rush mode the best
09:45am 01/11/13 Permalink
IncrEdible_vEgetable
Brisbane, Queensland
2513 posts
lolz at the PC woes. Takes me back to my PC gaming days. Seriously the s*** you have to put up with just to play a game you pay for...ridiculous.

Having said that I walked into Target yesterday and bought BF4 on XBox 360 for $58 (with a $10 off flyer the chick serving me grabbed off the counter and offered me). Got home loaded the updates, installed to save my CD drive some work and I was in the game.

However, my initial reaction = underwhelmed. The graphics look ordinary (too colourful, rather garish actually, models look s***, it's as if I was playing BF1 or 2). I dunno, BF3 looked way better but maybe that's just the couple of maps I played.

Gameplay was a bit clunky. May be because I'm used to my levelled up BF3 soldier giving an all round smoother performance (easier to use guns etc) so I'm willing to persevere.

All in all a bit disappointed and if I had picked this up sight unseen or as a demo I'd probably give it a miss, but on the strength of BF3 experience I will give it a good chance.
10:18am 01/11/13 Permalink
TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
5925 posts
I am using my brother PC at the moment which is older i5 with GTX670 video card and looks pretty dam nice smooth and good graphics running 1900x1200
11:00am 01/11/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8793 posts

lolz at the PC woes. Takes me back to my PC gaming days. Seriously the s*** you have to put up with just to play a game you pay for...ridiculous.


I don't know about anyone else, but my experience has been pretty seamless.
11:53am 01/11/13 Permalink
3x0dus
Townsville, Queensland
1812 posts
Yeah, it's only like $30 if you use a mexican VPN and buy it from origin. Ignore the $399 price tag, that's 399 pe$o's


Do you have to use the mexican VPN to play it, or just to purchase/activate.
11:58am 01/11/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1092 posts
Do you have to use the mexican VPN to play it, or just to purchase/activate.


Just to get the origin store to show you the Mexican version.

Now that the game has launched world wide, it's just a matter of VPN to buy, then disable it after and start downloading / playing. No language hacks / VPN needed to play, it installed in US English for me.
12:05pm 01/11/13 Permalink
TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
5926 posts
I just bought Premium Addon from Mexican Store this morning for AUD$33

I used this setup.
http://dd.reddit.com/r/GameDeals/comments/1ohy1r/origin_mexico_battlefield_4_premium_2831_2281/

Didn't work with my American Express but worked with my Master Card
12:10pm 01/11/13 Permalink
3x0dus
Townsville, Queensland
1813 posts
yer i got off my ass and searched google lol.

used the same reddit post, bought BF4 + Premium$74 aud.
12:32pm 01/11/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1575 posts
Anyone with a similar setup to me I've gotten it running quite well.
Win 7 x64
i7 2600k
6gb ram
SSD.
GTX 590.

If having any stuttering issues and Win7, disable core parking makes a world of difference.
Issue then can become texture pop in.
Run everything ultra bar Mesh and effects set to high and texture pop in gone, stutter/rubberbanding gone.
I run a few things on high rather than ultra just because im picky with frame rate but everything else on ultra should maintain 45+ FPS on those settings.
Core parking is a must to turn off though.
12:36pm 01/11/13 Permalink
IncrEdible_vEgetable
Brisbane, Queensland
2514 posts
Played a couple more maps this morning and I really can't believe how s*** this game looks compared to BF3 on Xbox. Really disappointing. It looks like COD. I fired up BF3 to compare and miles apart in terms of the look and feel.

WTF.
12:37pm 01/11/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10595 posts
Played a couple more maps this morning and I really can't believe how s*** this game looks compared to BF3 on Xbox. Really disappointing. It looks like COD. I fired up BF3 to compare and miles apart in terms of the look and feel.

WTF.

Welcome to current-gen. Battlefield 3 didn't look that hot on X360/PS3 either so I guess no one really cares. Could also be a push to go next-gen.

Agree with Mephz, disable core parking and the performance will be phenomenally better. Even noticed a difference of performance in Batman as well so yay for extras!
12:43pm 01/11/13 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
59 posts
Seriously the s*** you have to put up with just to play a game you pay for...ridiculous.


Yeah all the console port fabulism, fueled by awful gamers buying awful games... ridiculous

bl pc
12:55pm 01/11/13 Permalink
BiGGGGRED
Sunshine Coast, Queensland
3 posts
Are the servers back up yet and what fixes did they do this time
01:39pm 01/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
535 posts
Core parking did nothing for me either on or off. All 12 cores are being used by BF though so I very much doubt parking would have helped me.

I run Ultra Textures and Filtering, High everything else. 0xAA, Low "Post" AA, Ambient Occlusion off. Supersampling at 170% (res: 3264x1836). I get about 90fps average, 55-60 min, about 140 max. Sits at about 2.4GB VRAM for the most part.

There is a lot of variance in the frame rate which makes tweaking the game rather difficult. I found in Dom maps I was able to pump up the Sampling to 180%.

On a side note, ShadowPlay hardly uses any resources, but the output video could be a little smoother.
01:46pm 01/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
536 posts
Are the servers back up yet and what fixes did they do this time


Below: (Not much detail but that's what they've fed us. I hope future change logs have some actual info put on them.)
The launch of Battlefield 4 is in full swing and the majority of our fans are having a good time. We’ve noticed that some players on PC are experiencing crashes, something that we understand can be frustrating. Rest assured that we are working to address these issues.

If you’re having problems, please make sure to follow these steps:
-Make a clean install of PunkBuster by removing your original install and re-download the client.
-Repair the Battlefield 4 installation by right-clicking on your game inside of the Origin client.
-Make sure that you have the latest drivers for your graphics card.

AMD: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download

Nvidia: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx

Note that the recent issue where players that were using AMD cards on Windows 8 would get a red screen has been fixed with the recent AMD graphics cards driver update.

Also note that we are aware of the issue of players not being able to join a queue for game servers. We hope to resolve this issue resolved.

Please help us gather more information about issues by posting at EA Answer HQ.
01:51pm 01/11/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1987 posts
Apparently a fix for the audio issues if you are having it

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2832654347729882788/
02:39pm 01/11/13 Permalink
IncrEdible_vEgetable
Brisbane, Queensland
2515 posts
I'm not entirely sure I understand your post, but my point is that as much as I think PC is the undisputed home of FPS and I dearly loved playing Quake and Q3 and kingpin and CS and TF2 and so on, the f*****y around getting a game to run properly and patches and all the rest was one of the factors that eventually put me off continuing with PC.

Yes, the XBox is the red headed stepchild of the PC in terms of FPS but at least it actually with minimal effort and my gaming hours aren't spent troubleshooting.

Anyway, I'm sure that discussion is played out so my other point was that BF4 looks and feels terribad on XBox and now that you mention it Eorl maybe it is to push the XBONE which is highly s***house marketing if you ask me.

The End.
03:25pm 01/11/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
21208 posts
Didn't BF3 have an extra highres texture pack you needed to install so it didn't look s*** on XBox? Does BF4 have the same thing?
03:48pm 01/11/13 Permalink
TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
5928 posts
I'm not entirely sure I understand your post, but my point is that as much as I think PC is the undisputed home of FPS and I dearly loved playing Quake and Q3 and kingpin and CS and TF2 and so on, the f*****y around getting a game to run properly and patches and all the rest was one of the factors that eventually put me off continuing with PC.


While I understand and tottally agree it is now alot easier. Pretty much all games automatically update especially if they are from Steam and Origin. And the only other thing you need to keep up to date is your GPU drivers which all now are automatic or tell you too anyway.
03:57pm 01/11/13 Permalink
3x0dus
Townsville, Queensland
1814 posts
have to say i really like the V zoom adjustment. much love.

i have a relatively piddly computer

i7870 @ 2.9ghz
12gb ram
Radeon HD 5770

Game runs pretty good, i just had it set to auto, obviously everything is low but it looks decent enough.

Hopping to pickup a radeon HD 7 series with people dumping them for new and better or clearance for the new R2x series.

MSY has one such this weekend,, http://www.msy.com.au/images/ADbanner/eletter/30102013/online/html.html
08:39pm 01/11/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1988 posts
This isn't bf4 but its awesome

09:20pm 01/11/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8794 posts

Hopping to pickup a radeon HD 7 series with people dumping them for new and better or clearance for the new R2x series.


I just bought a 270x over a 7850 because there was only ~20-30 difference. On my rig (i5, 8gb ram) I can run at Ultra without any problems.
10:12pm 01/11/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10603 posts
Tic what are the temperatures like? Are you just on air cooling or go the extra mile? Thinking about either the 280X or the 770, either one seems it will do the job well for next-gen.

Got into a few matches tonight, servers are still pretty shoddy. I've found games.on.net to crash the most but that might just be my experience.
10:19pm 01/11/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8795 posts
Just normal cooling, bought an ASUS brand if that helps any. I'm not hearing any massive fan noises so the temps can't be too high at all. Pretty well impressed with the card actually!
10:56pm 01/11/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1093 posts
After hearing that windows 8 / 8.1 makes a MASSIVE difference in playability VS Windows 7, I've decided to take one for the team and see if that's true or not.

Had a free 8.1 pro key lying around, so I just installed it and will have a crack at it tomorrow. I can run pretty solid on mostly ultra settings @ 1080p but it still feels a little stuttery in Win7, despite having 70+fps at all times.

I'll let you know if it helps or if it's just the same. Also, thank god for Classic Shell app. I love you, start menu.

On a side note, I've just noticed my scroll wheel doesn't seem to work in the Ausgamers forums anymore o.0
11:09pm 01/11/13 Permalink
3x0dus
Townsville, Queensland
1816 posts
Well I have windows 8 and have none of the twitching issues people have described.

I was getting crashes , but less so after I felted punk buyer and redownloaded/install
02:14am 02/11/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10570 posts
Gunna give it a shot today after reinstalling punkbuster (reallllllly doubt it will help).

Probably crashed in most of my games so far if I haven't already quit because of s***** audio cut outs.
05:01am 02/11/13 Permalink
3x0dus
Townsville, Queensland
1817 posts
it may not help i just remember with BF3 i always had issues even after a brand new install from origin, and "updating" punkbuster i was still getting kicked from servers (which could at least see the message in BF3)

I usually download a new pbsetup from punkbuster, remove the pb folder from the game, and re add / update
09:46am 02/11/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10573 posts
Yeah done that. Still getting crashes.

Using a 770 it got up to 60-70 degrees which I assume shouldn't be a problem?

Running on ultra with turned down to 2x msaa

Also: whats the best way to get aussie (and preferably ausgamers) servers to show up?
10:03am 02/11/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1576 posts
Search for servers --> Advanced --> Filter by name
Plus the Oceania check box...................................................................................................................
10:18am 02/11/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1577 posts
Is there a way to blacklist servers so they dont show up on your list?
There are some that are just so laggy and terrible they arent worth even refreshing
10:56am 02/11/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10606 posts
Is there a way to blacklist servers so they dont show up on your list?There are some that are just so laggy and terrible they arent worth even refreshing
Don't believe so, best to just ignore I guess.
Also: whats the best way to get aussie (and preferably ausgamers) servers to show up?
Hit up the advanced filter options, make sure you tick custom as hardcore servers for Australia won't actually appear as hardcore due to a DICE bug.
11:23am 02/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
542 posts
Using a 770 it got up to 60-70 degrees which I assume shouldn't be a problem?\

Not a problem at that temp. If anything, it's on the cool side of things.
12:03pm 02/11/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10574 posts
Bleh I swear when I use Oceania filter different servers show up every time.
01:13pm 02/11/13 Permalink
BOOST
Brisbane, Queensland
613 posts
So is there any point in buying this yet or better off waiting for the first patch? Is there anyone not having issues?
02:43pm 02/11/13 Permalink
3x0dus
Townsville, Queensland
1819 posts
Bleh I swear when I use Oceania filter different servers show up every time.


have you got the filter set to hide full servers ? (seems to be by default), as that kinda describes what i thought it was like when that option was on.

03:44pm 02/11/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10614 posts
So is there any point in buying this yet or better off waiting for the first patch? Is there anyone not having issues?
I've sold what looks to be most client crashes by opening core parking and running each .exe as administrator. Server wise things are still a bit hectic, but as usual stuff will be fixed in due time.
03:48pm 02/11/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1989 posts
04:28pm 02/11/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8796 posts
Eorl: After ~15 minutes of playing my GPU temp is 55 degrees. I'm running Ultra at 1920x1080 with the 13.11 beta drivers.
04:49pm 02/11/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10575 posts
Seems luck of the draw. I have a 50% quit ratio. I have only quit due to crashes or sound bugs.
05:06pm 02/11/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1569 posts
I did the sinful thing and picked this up on the Xbox 360, I just cbf with PC games anymore I don't have the drive to keep my PC up to date.

Anyone else playing this on the 360? add me asyoung85@gmail.com
07:11pm 02/11/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10576 posts
haha go crashes. Just lost a 50-15 run on the metro style map.
08:17pm 02/11/13 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1454 posts
I have not encountered any problems, it runs well on my system on high. 35-50FPS.

i5 2500k (stock speed)
Inno3D GTX 570
12:06am 03/11/13 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
36765 posts
This isn't bf4 but its awesome


that video was awesome!!!!!
06:53am 03/11/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22362 posts
Just when I was thinking of getting it, I come across all these people having issues. I had a tonne of issues with Bad Company 2. I think I'll avoid BF4. By the time they fix their broken s***, another version will be out anyway.
07:56am 03/11/13 Permalink
BOOST
Brisbane, Queensland
615 posts
Bought it off cjs... just gotta download (23 fuggin gig) then suffer the pain with everyone else :)
09:45am 03/11/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10579 posts
Im waiting for the patch. Hopefully in the next few days. At least they have acknowledged the terribleness
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/forum/threadview/2955065217944685108/

10:26am 03/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
548 posts
I think it's good they are listing faults as it gives me hope and faith they're actually trying to fix all of it up.

I mean, I've personally been having a blast with the occasional crash, so I'm not too fussed. I can see how it'd be a pain in the ass on match.

Really for me, fix the queues, the crashes, and optomise the game a bit better so the framerates are consistent. Happy days.
11:52am 03/11/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1578 posts
You forgot the rubberbanding lag to be fix, should be second to the crashing.
I only crash every half a dozen games but friends crash almost every second round.
The rubberbanding lag lately has been troublesome across almost all servers.
12:29pm 03/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
550 posts
You talking about network lag or the video with input lag?

I don't seem to notice the video problem anymore.
12:32pm 03/11/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10580 posts
I seem to have fixed my client crashes by installing the directx redist in the bf4 folder as suggested by someone. Haven't crashed in a few hours when I was crashing every 2nd or 3rd game.

Didn't even think of doing this because I originally went to the microsoft site and made sure directx was up to date.

fingers crossed anyway
01:09pm 03/11/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1579 posts
ph33x - network lag
01:15pm 03/11/13 Permalink
Pandaemonean
Queensland
53 posts
There is a Network Smoothing feature in options.

Try changing that if you havent already.
02:44pm 03/11/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8797 posts
I've only crashed out because of a server dying which is probably 2 or 3 times in about 25 odd games. Graphics are fine, no network lag, etc. The only problem is I'm bad at it :(

Although I got a 6 kill streak before wifey distracted me and I died.. stupid wife.

Edit: Also would be nice to nominate to join a serious squad or something. I hate ending up in a squad where the leader isn't doing any orders, nobody follows each other or (worse) it's got a sniper or two in it that hides in the bush on the other side of the map while you're all working together to take an objective.
02:50pm 03/11/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10581 posts
Game is definitely a lot more fun with a bit of coordination or with friends.

More people add me to Battlelog! user: alexctd

Suggestion: If you are playing alone play Rush or Obliteration as conquest solo can be hit and miss.
02:59pm 03/11/13 Permalink
3x0dus
Townsville, Queensland
1820 posts
sud0x

- Today getting heaps more actual PC crashes, where as it was just server crashes:(

Tried upgrading to windows 8.1

Ran the DX from the folder like mentioned
Upgraded to 13.11 B8 Drivers.

made sure overboost was turned off on gfx card.

the B8 catalyst seem to have some issues or/bf4 contribs to becuase somehow managed to have 10gb of ram stuck in pooled memory gg.

last edited by 3x0dus at 15:22:51 03/Nov/13
03:20pm 03/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
551 posts
I'm ph33x on battlelog.


Anyone played around with making any kind of emblem better than making d*** emblems? I made a sweet ass picture perfect Swastika but people didn't appreciate the effort I had put in. I'm thinking of making it acceptable to the community by making it out of d**** and calling it a Swasd***a.

I then moved on to trying a character. Everyone knows Homer Simpson right? It's a bit rusty and takes time working out how to layer the shapes to make an image like that, but it's fun when you're sitting there baked on a quarter and 10 cans of rum.

http://i.imgur.com/qHnVm3R.png.

The awesome face however is almost picture perfect. I'll try and do Doge next.

(Edit: I have absolutely no imagination or ability to draw freehand. Everything I do has a form of logic to it, so this was fun to play around with as you're playing a puzzle game with shapes and layers to make the image.)



TLDR: I was doing this and it was b****in' fun.

http://i.imgur.com/RhYSLAv.jpg
03:33pm 03/11/13 Permalink
3x0dus
Townsville, Queensland
1821 posts
ugh, the rush / dm servers etc majority have the tickets far to low, spend more time loading maps.
04:08pm 03/11/13 Permalink
Adsa
Melbourne, Victoria
30 posts
ugh, the rush / dm servers etc majority have the tickets far to low, spend more time loading maps.



yeah I upped the Tzu server to 150% for both time and tickets
04:15pm 03/11/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
21212 posts
I'm Khelz0r on origin, haven't had a chance to have a bash at the game yet but I will be, so feel free to add me, looks like a couple of people found me anyway
04:54pm 03/11/13 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1455 posts
The game froze 2 times just now. Perhaps I am not immune as I thought.
06:18pm 04/11/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10583 posts
I crashed again today. Yayness.
06:51pm 04/11/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1096 posts
Anyone played around with making any kind of emblem better than making d*** emblems? I made a sweet ass picture perfect Swastika but people didn't appreciate the effort I had put in.


I tooled around a little with it but couldn't be bothered to make most of what I was thinking of. Ended up just doing this:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d110/WirlWind494/bftag.png

The writing looks a little off there, but it looks pretty good in-game when it's on the side of a tank (it seems to get blurred a little)
07:34pm 04/11/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1992 posts
Only crash on Siege of Shanghai, besides that it's been good.
08:23pm 04/11/13 Permalink
Crakaveli
6391 posts
can only get about 20 minutes or so before a server crash or game crash... Think i'll wait a week or so.
10:48pm 04/11/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1100 posts
can only get about 20 minutes or so before a server crash or game crash... Think i'll wait a week or so.


Yeah, just bought a 256gb SSD, so I'm not gonna play BF4 again until it's installed on that damn SSD and it's had a few patches.
11:49pm 04/11/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1993 posts
06:30am 05/11/13 Permalink
blah
Gold Coast, Queensland
89 posts
geezus that FOV is over the top.
04:48pm 05/11/13 Permalink
blah
Gold Coast, Queensland
90 posts
I tooled around a little with it but couldn't be bothered to make most of what I was thinking of. Ended up just doing this:http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d110/WirlWind494/bftag.pngThe writing looks a little off there, but it looks pretty good in-game when it's on the side of a tank (it seems to get blurred a little)


how many layers that ?
04:52pm 05/11/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1995 posts
06:31pm 05/11/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1101 posts
how many layers that ?


It came very close to 40 lol.

Real pain in the arse to do the lettering, that's why I left it as it was instead of making it perfect. Would have taken me another hour to fix it at the rate it was taking.

Not worth it for something you didn't notice in-game.
06:48pm 05/11/13 Permalink
Everlong
65 posts
TBH I think it would work fine without the lettering anyway. Good emblem, mines like 2 layers, a skull with some cross-hairs on it lol
07:13pm 05/11/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1996 posts
08:19pm 05/11/13 Permalink
Cemax
Brisbane, Queensland
783 posts
Is the battlelog down or something? I can login into Orgin but it wont allow me to load the battlelog, it asks for login details..which it wont recognize exists
08:23pm 05/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
574 posts
Yep, tis down.
08:24pm 05/11/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1103 posts
TBH I think it would work fine without the lettering anyway. Good emblem, mines like 2 layers, a skull with some cross-hairs on it lol


Cheers, simple usually = better when it comes to emblems.

As for the text, I originally wanted to make it say "Engineer Corps" but I ran out of layers. I think the "Engineer" tag is good in-game. It's quite large on the side of vehicles. Had a few people notice it and they immediately started saying "Hey, come gun for me next time you die" etc.
08:55pm 05/11/13 Permalink
MARLINBLADE
Queensland
591 posts
That vid Python put up is PRO... awesome
09:20am 06/11/13 Permalink
Moridin
Wollongong, New South Wales
23 posts


I like the game.. has alot of potential. TTK is to high.. e.g. you die to easy and s*** like this happens all the time.

Really ruining it for me atm
10:05am 06/11/13 Permalink
blah
Gold Coast, Queensland
91 posts
i don't get what's bad about that?

you shot his body, he shot your head, you die.
04:52pm 06/11/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1583 posts
He didnt die from a headshot, he died because the server thinks the other guy got a lot more hits first.
Currently whoever rounds the corner first has the advantage simple as that.
Notice how he doesnt even see the other guy firing until after at least 2-3 frames into the death animation and grey screen? pause and see for yourself.
It's not being headshot, its s*** netcode.

Another great example of this currently is to fly around in a helicopter or a jet.
There are two warning tones
1) locked
2) misisle fired/incomming.
The same as BF3.

Currently quite frequently you will get the lock warning, if you wait to deploy ECM/Flares (because sometimes you get out of range whilst being locked so why blow your cooldown) then sometimes you will get hit THEN hear the second warning tone.
that never happened in BF3... ever.
05:41pm 06/11/13 Permalink
D-Sub
Brisbane, Queensland
257 posts
Is anybody else getting huge load times?

QuadCore AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 955
4 gig G Skill RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 (4095 MB)
05:46pm 06/11/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10649 posts
What type of hard drive are you running the game off? Also what speed is your RAM at?
06:19pm 06/11/13 Permalink
D-Sub
Brisbane, Queensland
258 posts
The hard drive is a 1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200

This is the value for the RAM
G Skill F3-16000CL9-2GBRM
06:36pm 06/11/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
14569 posts
What is a 'massive load time'

Also the ol 955 is going to be having to be slogging itself playing BF4, have you overclocked it yet? They make for a nice overclock, with an aftermarket cooler you push it up to 4.0ghz on average. Mines at 3.4ghz (from 3.2) using stock cooler and it makes a pretty big difference.
06:38pm 06/11/13 Permalink
Pandaemonean
Queensland
55 posts
The hard drive is a 1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200

This is the value for the RAM
G Skill F3-16000CL9-2GBRM


I ran the beta on a HDD, took forever to load so I bought a Samsung 840 EVO Series 120GB SSD.
07:04pm 06/11/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1107 posts
Is anybody else getting huge load times?

QuadCore AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 955
4 gig G Skill RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 (4095 MB)


Yeah, running on:

Wind0ze 8.1 64-bit
i5 3570k @ 4.2ghz
8gb DDR3 1600Mhz RAM
XFX HD7990 running stock (3gb VRAM)
7200 RPM freshly de-fragged HDD

I can get upwards of minute long load times in some cases. It's rare that I load before then, but it's happened on smaller maps at least.

I'm getting a 256GB SSD this week to help mitigate it.

Also the ol 955 is going to be having to be slogging itself playing BF4, have you overclocked it yet? They make for a nice overclock, with an aftermarket cooler you push it up to 4.0ghz on average. Mines at 3.4ghz (from 3.2) using stock cooler and it makes a pretty big difference.


My old 965BE managed a stable 4ghz on the stock cooler with no change in voltage (though I bumped it up a notch just to be safe). I ran it stock voltage for about a week and it was solid as. Those Phenom II's were pretty badass for $120 CPU's at the time.
07:20pm 06/11/13 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
4477 posts
What is a 'massive load time'


I think it is like a multiball on the Ron Jeremy pin ball machine, only whiter, and full of protein.
07:30pm 06/11/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
14570 posts
Wirlwind, what sort temps you getting on stock? I'm at 65* on 3.4 I dare not go higher.
07:35pm 06/11/13 Permalink
D-Sub
Brisbane, Queensland
259 posts
By massive load times I mean 80-100secs
Not to be mistaken for "Massive Load Time", the game your mum and I play
07:49pm 06/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
585 posts
By massive load times I mean 80-100secs
Not to be mistaken for "Massive Load Time", the game your mum and I play

SSD or Platter?

If platter, buy SSD.

If SSD, f***.
10:18am 07/11/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8808 posts
BF4 is sitting on a 1TB platter while the OS sits on an SSD. I've got 8Gb RAM, R9 270x, an i5 and my load time is between 25-30seconds.
11:11am 07/11/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1109 posts
Wirlwind, what sort temps you getting on stock? I'm at 65* on 3.4 I dare not go higher.


Well I'm using my i5 now.

I don't remember too well what temps my old 965 used to run, but it probably would have been about 5-10c lower than your temps depending on the day as I had a pretty baller cooler on it (I bought a new one because I was planning on OCing it past 4ghz and didn't want to rely on the stock cooler. Never did OC it any further though...)

But when it was using the stock cooler, I would probably say it was close to your temps, it may have hit low 70's on a warm day under a heavy load.

Bear in mind that my old 965 was a higher base clock though. I could hit 4ghz without touching voltage, so CPU temps never went up. Yours could still hit 4ghz, you might just need a better cooler + a bit of a touch on the voltage to keep it stable. Still, it's worth a try. Test it out and set 70c as your CPU shut-down temp. A single bump in voltage has never made that much of a diff, I've found.

BF4 is sitting on a 1TB platter while the OS sits on an SSD. I've got 8Gb RAM, R9 270x, an i5 and my load time is between 25-30seconds.


Sounds like even though it's only for the OS, the SSD is making a big difference.

Platter for OS AND game takes me far too long. There was one server with a 64 player TDM but was first team to 100. The game was half over by the time I'd loaded.
11:22am 07/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
589 posts
Same problem a mate was having after installing to a platter. Literally half the round to load on a short server.

He reinstalled to an SSD, loads as fast as the fastest players now. Can spawn into vehicles before others get on etc.

Think he's got a 2600K and a 580.
11:36am 07/11/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
14578 posts
Yeah max operating temp for 955BE is written as 62*, so I'm already pushing it over at 67* max load. I'm pretty sure I can get it to at least 3.8ghz, those 955's have a good rep for OCing.

Should just bite the bullet and get a nice cooler. Any recommendations for around $50 - $100ish?
11:41am 07/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
593 posts
Noctua's top end coolers are pretty awesome.

What fits on an AMD CPU though? Not sure.
12:11pm 07/11/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10655 posts
If you are looking for air coolers, go CoolerMaster V8. Its a brilliant air cooler and works a treat on both AMD and Intel CPUs.
12:17pm 07/11/13 Permalink
MARLINBLADE
Queensland
594 posts
For bugger all you can get a water cool setup mate $80 - 120 for the RTG ones on pccasegear.

I had a V8 like Eorl mentions and while it was a bloody good cooler, it was a dust magnet man...

The water cool option made a massive difference and is pretty easy to install
01:53pm 07/11/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1112 posts
Yeah max operating temp for 955BE is written as 62*, so I'm already pushing it over at 67* max load. I'm pretty sure I can get it to at least 3.8ghz, those 955's have a good rep for OCing.

Should just bite the bullet and get a nice cooler. Any recommendations for around $50 - $100ish?


Really, though, when you start getting into that sort of range, you might start thinking about just buying a better CPU for another $100. That's the trouble with the good ole 9xx series Phenom II's. They're falling behind now and for not much extra, you can just buy something that will do twice as good.

But if you're planning on keeping it cooled, OCing like a champ and sticking with AMD for a long while, grab an all in 1 watercooling kit for the CPU. Can pick them up around $100 and you can OC the balls off it.

Noctua's top end coolers are pretty awesome.What fits on an AMD CPU though? Not sure.


Most coolers come with both AMD + Intel chipset brackets unless they specifically say.
02:39pm 07/11/13 Permalink
D-Sub
Brisbane, Queensland
260 posts
So after buying a new cpu and a ssd, my load times around 30secs. Thanks for the suggestions
03:19pm 07/11/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
14590 posts
That's the plan Stan. I can justify $100 for a cooler that can be used on the next chip to keep me going for another year or so, however I find it harder to justify $300 or so at this current time.
03:35pm 07/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
609 posts
FYI: Almost all socket 2011 boards can fit socket 1333 coolers on them.

There's probably a ton of other matchups like that, but that's one I know of.
03:56pm 07/11/13 Permalink
$ack
Brisbane, Queensland
1527 posts
Interesting how there's no count down timer for the game to begin anymore. I'm usually one of the first in game each round and already capping points before the game fills up.
04:27pm 07/11/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10659 posts
According to this graph it looks like I'll be going the either the 280X or the 7970. Both seem to offer 3GB of VRAM, though I'm more interested in input slots as I have three HDMI monitors, one of which is currently connected with a DVI converter. Any suggestions?

http://i.imgur.com/FVVr0rIl.png
04:32pm 07/11/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
14595 posts
Gees, that R9 290 just pulls ahead doesn't it. AMD scored well with that one.
04:36pm 07/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
610 posts
Are you going to use Surround/Eyefinity as the results on this graph differ largely as they are single panel.

If you are, you'll need '2 of the big ones' for playability.

On a single panel in the Beta I could hit 3400MB VRAM, but in vanilla the highest I've seen is about 2600MB and that's playing with Supersampling. The res was somewhere around 3200x1800 by that stage.
04:37pm 07/11/13 Permalink
glynd
Melbourne, Victoria
1058 posts
Running on a GTX 570 w/ i5 2500k atm and enjoying it. I've set everything up to OC the CPU and hopefully pick up a 770 in the next month or so.

team red's offerings are damn tempting though. 290 results seem amazing. near titan @ 770 price.
04:43pm 07/11/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10660 posts
I'm only starting to lean towards the red flag because of just how damn cheap the cards are, and the results have been staggeringly better compared to nVidia. Ph33x, I'm only planning on playing with a single monitor for now, I have two 23" but my third monitor is actually a 55" HD LCD TV so its not really that important I guess for extra slots.

Mind you, I'm tempted to just grab two 280X's alongside a full cooling revamp at the end of this year. Guess I can grab one for now to at least ease my poor medium performance. I'm not really an eye candy person - hell I hate shadows in games as they make no sense and are pointless - but I would like to proof myself a bit leading into next-gen.
05:04pm 07/11/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
14596 posts
Decided on a Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO for a poultry $38, will do the job. yay.
05:27pm 07/11/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
14597 posts
My God, this thing is monster big. Not sure if I can fit it in. O well, fortune favours the bold, it's going in!
08:04pm 07/11/13 Permalink
glynd
Melbourne, Victoria
1059 posts
My God, this thing is monster big. Not sure if I can fit it in. O well, fortune favours the bold, it's going in!


yeah put it in couple weeks ago myself haha bloody massive.
08:42pm 07/11/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1585 posts
My God, this thing is monster big. Not sure if I can fit it in. O well, fortune favours the bold, it's going in!
yeah put it in couple weeks ago myself haha bloody massive.


.......Hmmmmmmmm
08:59pm 07/11/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
14603 posts
Get back in your c***pit Mephz. (LOLZ PUN INTENDED)
09:17pm 07/11/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1113 posts
Mind you, I'm tempted to just grab two 280X's alongside a full cooling revamp at the end of this year. Guess I can grab one for now to at least ease my poor medium performance. I'm not really an eye candy person - hell I hate shadows in games as they make no sense and are pointless - but I would like to proof myself a bit leading into next-gen.


7990 *cough*

Cheapest you're gonna see them, they'll probably vanish from stores soon enough.

280x's are about $350 a pop and you'll only get about as much performance from them as you would a single 7990. Difference is the 7990 is probably going to be $50-$100 cheaper.

Just make sure you have some good ventilation. As with any xfire / SLi, it can get warm.
10:31pm 07/11/13 Permalink
Pandaemonean
Queensland
56 posts
ATI is complete and utter garbage which has nothing to do with the thread.

BF4 launch went sideways then fell off a f*****g cliff.

Stay away.
10:51pm 07/11/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1586 posts
Get back in your c***pit Mephz. (LOLZ PUN INTENDED)
heh heh
10:53pm 07/11/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1116 posts
ATI is complete and utter garbage which has nothing to do with the thread.BF4 launch went sideways then fell off a f*****g cliff.Stay away.


It has a lot to do with the thread when someone is talking about upgrading their PC for BF4.

As for the "ati is garbage" comment, go fanboy somewhere else. I can't stand the smell of all that jizz.
11:07pm 07/11/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22379 posts
My God, this thing is monster big. Not sure if I can fit it in. O well, fortune favours the bold, it's going in!

well, that's an interesting comment to walk into without having read the rest of the thread :)

So have the issues been fixed yet? Blops 2 seems to be experiencing issues (in that it's s***) and I don't want to touch ghosts. How are the BF4 issues going? Fixed yet?
11:13pm 07/11/13 Permalink
glynd
Melbourne, Victoria
1060 posts
.......Hmmmmmmmm


haha
11:15pm 07/11/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10664 posts
ATI is complete and utter garbage which has nothing to do with the thread.BF4 launch went sideways then fell off a f*****g cliff.Stay away.
No need for the fanboy hostility Panda, I've been a staunch supporter of Nvidia for awhile. However, when a better card comes along that just so happens to be the other camp it doesn't mean betrayal, it means opportunistic.

Thanks for the suggestion Wirl, I figured that both seem to come in at just around the same performance so it was either one or the other. Checking Umart it does seem that the 7970's are now all out, with only one available for pre-order. Thing is I probably won't be upgrading until after Christmas due to all the money being spent on gazebo, PlayStation 4 and of course Christmas itself. Maybe better to just wait and grab a 290/290X in Jan?
12:27am 08/11/13 Permalink
BOOST
Brisbane, Queensland
617 posts
So have the issues been fixed yet?


In about four-five hours of online gameplay I've had about five bf4.exe crashes and 3 or 4 server disconnects. Only other problem is occasional rubber bandy helicopters. Overall pretty good considering what people are reporting.
06:33am 08/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
616 posts
Reading this today Eorl: http://www.maximumpc.com/nvidia_geforce_gtx_780_ti_benchmarks?page=0%2C1

Here's the rub: Even though the card provided to us by AMD didn't exhibit drastic clock speed fluctuation, other news outlets are reporting that retail boards acquired through e-tailers are showing major fluctuations. This would indicate that the board provided to the press were "golden samples," or boards tested or configured to not exhibit the same behavior seen in retail boards. This is obviously a problem, for several reasons. The boards we receive should be *exactly* the same as retail boards, period. But in this instance something is amiss, either with the press boards or with the retail boards, at least according to sites like the Tech Report and Tom's Hardware. AMD says the problem lies with the retail boards, and it's working on a driver fix that will "minimize this variance" according to the statement provided to the Tech Report.
10:26am 08/11/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10589 posts
The other night I went 3 whole maps without client crashing. Was pretty excited. Keen to play this weekend to see if it was a coincidence or not.
11:48am 08/11/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10670 posts
Heh, interesting Ph33x. I could always see both companies offering up pristine boards just to make sure they get the best score in the benchmark, but it does suck when a customer is looking for an honest opinion. I don't think I'll be touching the 290X anyway, way too many heat issues from what sounds like a rush to beat Nvidia.
11:56am 08/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
622 posts
That is true. The difference is (from what I gather) is that in Uber Mode, there is no such thing as a base clock or turbo clock. It just maxes the clock until you hit 94/95 degrees. This means golden chips will be faster while in uber mode as a golden chip will go faster at the same voltage, and voltage determines heat for the most part.

With nVidia's golden chips, they will get reviewed at the base clock rates and the only thing that makes them look good is when the reviewer overclocks them on air to see what they can max out at.

Most manufacturers have pro overclockers working for/with them so the chance of getting your hands on a truly golden chip is minimal as they snap them up during the bin/test process. Sad. :(
12:06pm 08/11/13 Permalink
mickeytg
Melbourne, Victoria
1 posts
Well I'm currently a Powercolor Radeon HD 6900 2gb and it sees to run ok. Obviously would like a better card but it's not a priority right now. The high end CPU and 8gb of ram probably helps a bit.
12:21pm 08/11/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10674 posts
Yeah Mickey that should be fine for now. You may see a struggle in a few years with the more intense titles like Witcher 3 and Watch Dogs, but otherwise it should be sweet.
01:45pm 08/11/13 Permalink
EBTVHD
Sydney, New South Wales
5 posts
I wana get this game, looks so good in the trailer
08:47pm 08/11/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
14619 posts
So I stuck it in this evening, all the way. Took a little force during the screwing but nothing broke. Almost forgot to apply the paste, that would have caused problems with flow.

Anyway, bumped it up to 4.0ghz right away to see what would happen, it crashed not long after booting windows. So dropped it to 3.8ghz and it ran fine for a while then artifcated, had a hunch it was low voltage so I upped to the voltage a fraction. 1.4 to 1.424. It has been running fine ever since. HWMonitor shows voltage dropped from 1.424 to 1.416v during gaming, so perhaps when it was set at default it dropped too low.

Max temp was 59degC, idles around 40degs. Case air flow isn't the best but it will suffice.

4.0ghz at 1.424 might be a little too hot :(

All in all, not bad for a $38 cooler. Oh and it is HEAPS quieter, damn that stock fan was noisy, I thought it was my vid card, lol nope.

12:16am 09/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
642 posts
The voltage drops because of vdroop. You need to make your CPU LLC settings more aggressive if you want to hold a stable voltage under load.
12:43am 09/11/13 Permalink
baz
Victoria
233 posts
Pheex knows alot about load.
12:49am 09/11/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
14620 posts
I'm just being an overclocking noob and using the multiplayer until it borks in windows, then I bumped the voltage up a tad and its stable. At 3.9ghz now. Can't get 4.0ghz to hold, temps are still good. Haven't really stressed tested it though.
12:53am 09/11/13 Permalink
Everlong
66 posts
I cannot find AusGamers servers in battlelog, any tips pls?
10:42am 09/11/13 Permalink
Towley
Sydney, New South Wales
3 posts
Dear Ausgamers Please update PB on my server , it is an old version and I keep getting kicked off it. No problem joining WARS (Warlords Australia) server also hosted by Ausgamers.
10:45am 09/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
643 posts
Everlong, I'm seeing if we can get a loosely compiled list of names of all the servers hosted on AG. 1: For unmetered access, and 2: My friend randomly dc's from anything except AG servers.

You can determine if the server is hosted at AG by clicking "View Full Server Page" and checking the IP address. If it's 203.46.x.x then it's an AG hosted server. As far as I know, all AG servers start with 203.46

------------------------------

Towley, go here: http://www.ausgamers.com/forums/gsr/index.php
10:51am 09/11/13 Permalink
Everlong
67 posts
So is AG only doing server rentals, as I can see clan servers hosted by AG, but not running their own servers? Thanks
12:14pm 09/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
644 posts
So is AG only doing server rentals, as I can see clan servers hosted by AG, but not running their own servers? Thanks

Last I checked, AG aren't hosting their own pub server farm. There are a few test servers and that's it.

Instead they're renting them out to everyone. So you have a pile of AG hosted servers without AG written in the name of the server, and AG admins don't run the server or choose the ingame rules for it.

----

You can find a few servers by turning off every filter except 'Oceanic' - Then search for AusGamers.

Again, checking the IP for a leading 203.46 is another way to confirm. Some servers say 'Bigpond Unmetered' as well and as far as I know, only AG hosted servers are unmetered.
12:20pm 09/11/13 Permalink
Everlong
68 posts
Ok cool, thankyou, much appreciated.
12:22pm 09/11/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10692 posts
Okay, I've come to the conclusion that Paracel Storm is the worst map ever. Even Metro 2.0 AKA Locker is better, at least it doesn't have PB boats that are incredibly hard to destroy and one hit kill everything.
01:31pm 09/11/13 Permalink
maRtz
Brisbane, Queensland
4137 posts
I'm having an issue with punkbuster:

Game disconnected: you were kicked by PunkBuster. Stated reason: PunkBuster kicked player '' (for 0 minutes) ... RESTRICTION: Service Communication Failure: PnkBstrA.exe


anyone had this and know how to get around it? I have already updated punkbuster using the pbsetup app.
03:07pm 09/11/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1123 posts
I'm having an issue with punkbuster:



anyone had this and know how to get around it? I have already updated punkbuster using the pbsetup app.


If you're running something like game booster, check that it's not shutting down the PB services.

Otherwise, hit windows key + r and type services.msc

Have a look and try find the punkbuster services and turn them on.
04:01pm 09/11/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10694 posts
If you are playing on an AusGamers server we've had an issue with PunkBuster not updating on the servers, in the process of being fixed.
04:06pm 09/11/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8816 posts

anyone had this and know how to get around it? I have already updated punkbuster using the pbsetup app.


This happened after I installed BF4 and I just went and ran the pbsetup.exe file and let it do its thing. Has been fine since.
05:07pm 09/11/13 Permalink
Vash
3862 posts
game is unplayable for me. crashes once every game, or the audio drops out.
i havent got these issues with the many other games i play.

keenly awaiting a patch.
05:16pm 09/11/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1591 posts
Okay, I've come to the conclusion that Paracel Storm is the worst map ever.
:O
I love paracel storm. Mainly because it's so pretty and the weather effect/storm is incredibly awesome.
I always seem to do alright on it too even as infantry.
Just gotta avoid the OP boats (I jumped in one for the first time the other day and jeez they destroy anything they look at)
05:24pm 09/11/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1124 posts
game is unplayable for me. crashes once every game, or the audio drops out.i havent got these issues with the many other games i play.keenly awaiting a patch.


Agreed. I have a bunch of boosts (inc a 200%) waiting for the next patch that will supposedly fix a lot of the common client crashes...

So sick of wasting them (exp boost apparently only gets counted at the end)
05:31pm 09/11/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
14622 posts
Arg, got my 955be stable at 3.85ghz. Voltage is at 1.448V max load temp at 57deg. I want MOARRR, cheap arse motherboard though, $40 as rock jobby.
06:09pm 09/11/13 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1460 posts
I played on a Ausgamers Test Server, it was laggy as s***. I still get freezes too. I only got to play Locker once, it was alright. Also DMRs are awesome, I seem to do better with those than assault rifles.
06:48pm 09/11/13 Permalink
maRtz
Brisbane, Queensland
4139 posts
Otherwise, hit windows key + r and type services.msc

Have a look and try find the punkbuster services and turn them on.


any idea what these services might be called? can't see anything that is obvious.
11:01pm 09/11/13 Permalink
maRtz
Brisbane, Queensland
4140 posts
never mind, this fixed it:

8. Go to C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games\Battlefield 4 and delete "Pb" folder.
9. go to these 2 links:
http://websec.evenbalance.com/downloader/download.php?file=1
http://www.evenbalance.com/downloads/pbsvc/pbsvc.exe
10. download and install both
11. Run Pbsetup.exe (the first link)
12. add a game (eg. bf4)
13. check for updates.
11:33pm 09/11/13 Permalink
crasht01
Gold Coast, Queensland
2 posts
:OI love paracel storm. Mainly because it's so pretty and the weather effect/storm is incredibly awesome.I always seem to do alright on it too even as infantry.Just gotta avoid the OP boats (I jumped in one for the first time the other day and jeez they destroy anything they look at)


lol boats don't last long against jet's and other boat tear them apart as well as those MBT LAW launcher's so making a few quick kill's in between quick deaths is kinda balanced.
09:48am 10/11/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1129 posts
The boats aren't really that OP anyway:

- They only have the combined power of a tank (hell, less than imo)
- They can't hide as well as a normal land vehicle since the ocean is kind of large and flat
- The armour on them can be pinged by miniguns

I've had games in actual tanks where I've gone 30 - 1.

I don't think I've seen anyone come close in a boat. Most people seem to realize they need to blow them up pretty quickly.
10:15am 10/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
650 posts
I find the boats are all about positioning.

You keep at long range wit a boat as they can smash things from a long distance.
You dodge almost all incoming rounds by driving side on when at long range.
They take like 5% damage from them LAW launchers that engies carry stock.
The miniguns and main gun rape helicopters and jets that come close.

We've had runs in the boat pulling averages of around 40-5. Take them close to the land and they won't last long. The only time I seem to lose my boat is when the other boat suicide runs at me with the help of a rib or heli. That or engi vs non engi, etc.
12:18pm 10/11/13 Permalink
Vash
3865 posts
loving the sound in this game, when it works.
the boat, and riding the waves.. sweet noise from the motor
07:56pm 10/11/13 Permalink
blah
Gold Coast, Queensland
92 posts
vash you should update your sound drivers and not use windows default drivers.
11:32am 11/11/13 Permalink
blah
Gold Coast, Queensland
93 posts
:OI love paracel storm. Mainly because it's so pretty and the weather effect/storm is incredibly awesome.I always seem to do alright on it too even as infantry.Just gotta avoid the OP boats (I jumped in one for the first time the other day and jeez they destroy anything they look at)


agreed, paracel stort is an awesome map especially when the storm comes in.
11:50am 11/11/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1999 posts
06:53pm 11/11/13 Permalink
Vash
3866 posts
im using the latest drivers Asus provide for my xonar DGX. they havent updated them for a good year so that's balls.
09:26pm 11/11/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1131 posts
im using the latest drivers Asus provide for my xonar DGX. they havent updated them for a good year so that's balls.


At least you can USE yours :P

I have a Xonar DG (the headphone amp was awesome) that won't fit because my motherboard doesn't have any PCI slots XD

I honestly didn't look because, seriously, who makes a mobo without any PCI? o.0

The answer is Asrock Micro- ATX lol. To be fair, it was a pretty cheap mobo and it's solid besides all that
10:37pm 11/11/13 Permalink
diggersfall
Geelong, Victoria
13 posts
where can i get a auto high ping kicker.
05:07am 12/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
653 posts
Cough https://forum.myrcon.com/showthread.php?3139-PingPlayers-(1-0-1-1-03-12-2011)-BF3

BF3 just lots of plugins are working between the two.

*fart
09:14am 12/11/13 Permalink
Keato
Melbourne, Victoria
589 posts
Repaired a boat on Paracel Storm for a guy MrSushi who went 77-0.

Was fun..44k exp map.
10:01am 12/11/13 Permalink
Towley
Sydney, New South Wales
11 posts
I recorded a video of me playing Operation Locker with Bandicam.. I probably take too many risks and amd gung-ho !!



Please join our server votemap plugin active

http://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/203.46.105.24:22255/b_560_95_1.png
02:44pm 12/11/13 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1470 posts
The patch did not fix my freezing problems, froze 2 times this evening,
09:00pm 15/11/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22408 posts
I just got BF4 and before I even started installing origin itself crashed and burned on installing that. lolz. Come on EA, do at least one thing right for once.

It's installing now though and I'm pretty rubbish at battlefield games so if anyone wants some target practice in their game or someone to use as bait, befriend me on origin I guess. : NorahTihtzoff
05:07pm 16/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
676 posts
The patch did not fix my freezing problems, froze 2 times this evening,

Try Windowed Fullscreen.
06:52pm 16/11/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10597 posts
Well. Played my first map in a while. At least the game waited for the round to finish before crashing.

Directx error crash.
07:50pm 16/11/13 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1474 posts
Try Windowed Fullscreen.


Nope, still froze. Froze quicker this way too.
06:36pm 18/11/13 Permalink
Keato
Melbourne, Victoria
590 posts
I did ;

Run Directx installer from BF4/_installer/directx as admin
BIOS - turned off multi threading on CPU performance

99% of crashing resolved, maybe once a week now (1-2 hours a night, 3 times a week)

I now get some kind of 3d red/blue/green blur every now and then, like a screen wobble effect... /sigh headaches
10:32am 19/11/13 Permalink
Keato
Melbourne, Victoria
591 posts
Towley, you are not sticking with your squad, that's why you keep running into 3-4 opponents, but i like your aggression, fun to watch ;)

Thanks for the video
10:42am 19/11/13 Permalink
Towley
Sydney, New South Wales
28 posts
Thanks Keato come join us on server sometime
01:58pm 19/11/13 Permalink
Towley
Sydney, New South Wales
29 posts
I did ;

Run Directx installer from BF4/_installer/directx as admin
BIOS - turned off multi threading on CPU performance

99% of crashing resolved, maybe once a week now (1-2 hours a night, 3 times a week)

I now get some kind of 3d red/blue/green blur every now and then, like a screen wobble effect... /sigh headaches



thats the emp scanner
01:59pm 19/11/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1610 posts
thats the emp scanner
Is it a bug?
Why would an EMP make our vision blur? :/
It's a very annoying feature if it is one.
02:00pm 19/11/13 Permalink
Towley
Sydney, New South Wales
30 posts
I was thinking of running a S of O night QLD vs NSW would you guys be in it?
02:01pm 19/11/13 Permalink
TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
5943 posts
yeah lets do it!
02:14pm 19/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
685 posts
That EMP thing is manifesting itself differently on various configs.

I see it as a slight warping of my recticle in red dot sights, the UI will warp a little as well. But its hardly noticeable. The way I've seen people complain it would seem they are experiencing something far worse than this. I have commanded for many hours now (almost 3rd in .au for global command score) and hardly seen anyone complain after dropping thousands of EMPs (a few but comparably hardly any).

Any screenshots of it?
02:35pm 19/11/13 Permalink
crasht01
Gold Coast, Queensland
4 posts
I was thinking of running a S of O night QLD vs NSW would you guys be in it?


This could be fun I like this idea it could have potential
02:42pm 19/11/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
2002 posts
I'll play!
05:18pm 19/11/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1613 posts
I dont think it is EMP, have it happening without any commanders in the map.
The effect I get is sort of like it's rendering a 3D image and I'm not wearing 3D glasses. Happens briefly then reverts back, can't figure out what causes it.
05:57pm 19/11/13 Permalink
Towley
Sydney, New South Wales
31 posts
OK I have made up a State of Origin Application on the Banditos Website

http://bf4b.enjin.com/home

Hopefully this works and I have explained everything clearly , excuse me as I am complete novice and noob when it comes to doing these things but I reckon a Canetoads Vs C***roaches match to end all matches and grudge match would be great !!!
06:42pm 19/11/13 Permalink
Towley
Sydney, New South Wales
32 posts
I have fixed the application now you don't have to be regstered with Enjin to sign up

Come on guys sign up!

Can we make this a sticky?
01:16pm 20/11/13 Permalink
glynd
Melbourne, Victoria
1070 posts
I figure this is the best thread to ask. Going to upgrade my 570 to a 770. I use about 3 screens (2 monitor and 1 TV) but only game on 1 monitor or TV. Should I get a 2GB card or spend a bit more for 4GB. I'm generally on a 2 year rotation on my graphics cards although 2 years down the track I'll be replacing my whole computer.
01:45pm 20/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
692 posts
I figure this is the best thread to ask. Going to upgrade my 570 to a 770. I use about 3 screens (2 monitor and 1 TV) but only game on 1 monitor or TV. Should I get a 2GB card or spend a bit more for 4GB. I'm generally on a 2 year rotation on my graphics cards although 2 years down the track I'll be replacing my whole computer.

I'd recommend a 4GB.

BF4 on a 770 with the right settings will sit right around the 1.9-2.1GB mark leaving you with no headroom.

I dont think it is EMP, have it happening without any commanders in the map.The effect I get is sort of like it's rendering a 3D image and I'm not wearing 3D glasses. Happens briefly then reverts back, can't figure out what causes it.

I haven't had this problem. nVidia card? They released a new driver today - I'd suggest a clean install and afterwards setting up SLI (if you have it) and setting Single Display Performance mode if you single screen as Multi is default. This will mean your driver settings are identical to mine.

For a good week I played with video settings and I didn't see this issue. I have a feeling it's driver/config related and not something caused through ingame settings. The amount of people with this issue isn't extremely rare but not very common either. I saw a 20-odd page thread floating around on Blog forums around it - didn't see a fix last I read, I'll try and find it.
02:38pm 20/11/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1147 posts
I figure this is the best thread to ask. Going to upgrade my 570 to a 770. I use about 3 screens (2 monitor and 1 TV) but only game on 1 monitor or TV. Should I get a 2GB card or spend a bit more for 4GB. I'm generally on a 2 year rotation on my graphics cards although 2 years down the track I'll be replacing my whole computer.


Honestly, the 2gb should be fine. There are plenty of people playing BF4 and such on similar cards. Worst case scenario you might need to drop textures down a notch.

If money isn't an issue, go the 4gb because why the hell not *shrug*
02:41pm 20/11/13 Permalink
glynd
Melbourne, Victoria
1071 posts
Not a bad thing to mention I'm running i5 2500k CPU w/ hyper 212 evo but haven't OC'd it yet.

If it's already getting to that 1.8-2.1 mark, I'm probably better off spending the extra $40 just to get that head room just in case as I'd imagine other games will be following suit soon enough. Thanks heaps.
03:03pm 20/11/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
2004 posts
Gulf of Oman game play



Metro walk through

09:57pm 20/11/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
2005 posts
10:04pm 20/11/13 Permalink
Towley
Sydney, New South Wales
36 posts
I think I will be running Metro 24/7 after seeing this video !!
It's dramatically been improved to alleviate those choke points !!

It's going to be great !!

The textures and colours are magnificent !! that blue hue is gone thank God !!!
06:54am 21/11/13 Permalink
AngusHades
22 posts
Hey guys I'm looking for some ppl to group up with and play bf4 with.I have a teamspeak server with some mates that play but not enough to have a fun with. Add me on origin if you're interested . Age around 18+ and be ok with abit of s*** talk. Blokes with family's is OK too as I have one.

Origin Gamer Tag
Leodemiles
01:00pm 22/11/13 Permalink
AngusHades
23 posts


Honestly, the 2gb should be fine. There are plenty of people playing BF4 and such on similar cards. Worst case scenario you might need to drop textures down a notch.

If money isn't an issue, go the 4gb because why the hell not *shrug*


I run 2 680GTX in sli with 4 screens, i have no problem running bf4 at around 120 to 160FPS on ultra.
01:19pm 22/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
713 posts
I run 2 680GTX in sli with 4 screens, i have no problem running bf4 at around 120 to 160FPS on ultra.
http://i.imgur.com/98w3RDe.jpg

Crank that up. I'm running 3-way on a single screen and it's only just good enough to maintain solid 70-80fps in most instances unless flying or in the middle of nowhere with this at 200%.

Looks awesome though and is why I now play single screen and leave the other panels off. 4K internal res if you run that at 200% on a 1080 screen.
01:41pm 22/11/13 Permalink
AngusHades
24 posts
Yea i was playing with that last night looks great. I game on one screen but the 2 monitors are for viewing films or web surfing, plus i have the TV hooked up for watching movies with the family.
01:49pm 22/11/13 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1479 posts
The new metro looks good, I hope there are Locker and Metro only servers when it comes out.
01:58pm 22/11/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
2006 posts
Registered for state of origin!! fknpyth
06:39pm 22/11/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22434 posts
does the game look awesome on an AMD video card? Because on my old 570's the graphics are kind of meh. Even on ultra it looks no better than CoD 4. I'm not talking about the crispness of it but just how the textures are applied, everything seems to be flat. Sure there's rocks here and there but it's mostly just a flat leaf / grass texture on everything.

also, why is there even an option to make it look like this? lol
http://i.imgur.com/U1zbeJg.png
08:31pm 22/11/13 Permalink
Towley
Sydney, New South Wales
48 posts
Hey guys I'm looking for some ppl to group up with and play bf4 with.I have a teamspeak server with some mates that play but not enough to have a fun with. Add me on origin if you're interested . Age around 18+ and be ok with abit of s*** talk. Blokes with family's is OK too as I have one.

Origin Gamer Tag
Leodemiles


Can you join our server ? We have Teamspeak as well

http://battlelog.medalofhonor.com/bf4/servers/show/pc/66160d1f-5064-4b24-99f1-07c4f03538ff/BF4-Banditos-CQ-Large-Fast-Vehicle-Spawn/

Also sent friend request too.. Let's have some fun.. I can change maps (votemap is enabled)

How about some SQDM ? Can do that !!
12:33pm 23/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
727 posts
does the game look awesome on an AMD video card? Because on my old 570's the graphics are kind of meh. Even on ultra it looks no better than CoD 4. I'm not talking about the crispness of it but just how the textures are applied, everything seems to be flat. Sure there's rocks here and there but it's mostly just a flat leaf / grass texture on everything.

6 series. All ultra, 200% res scaling. Some good explosive pics too at the bottom which reveals the bump mapping and how it affects the lightning.

http://i.imgur.com/hQQwafd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VpEKVhl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UoJq3Ns.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OWCQtDn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6osVqcw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/skeXTif.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fhfFpCn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lgaClzo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Em5QIGy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sSqKykX.jpg
01:30pm 23/11/13 Permalink
Towley
Sydney, New South Wales
53 posts
http://bf4b.enjin.com/home/m/17713802/article/1918913

We are running a Pistols and Knives only night this Friday on Operation Locker

You are all welcome to join !!

Start sharpening your knives and counter-knife skills

DOUBLE XP WEEK !!!
12:22pm 27/11/13 Permalink
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Victoria
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01:26pm 28/11/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1633 posts
So my sound keeps cutting out, apparently I'm not the only one anyone have this issue?
02:19pm 28/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
752 posts
On every map?

Start with Hi-Hi/Headphones as your first setting in the sound options, and "Stereo" as the second option. There is a map that's still playing up as well.
02:25pm 28/11/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1634 posts
I played two maps last night and yeah issues on both, I've played around with the audio settings I'll give it another crack tonight.
05:35pm 28/11/13 Permalink
TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
5967 posts
yeah im getting sound issues as well
05:51pm 28/11/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22455 posts
My ambient sounds will cut out sometimes but gunshots and footsteps still go on around me. Eventually it fixes itself.

Using a USB sound blaster x-fi if it matters


6 series. All ultra, 200% res scaling. Some good explosive pics too at the bottom which reveals the bump mapping and how it affects the lightning.

images removed

Yeah mine look much like that in the built up zones, I'm talking about paracel and that other map with the big tower that people like to snipe on and the broken boat (only ever played that one once dunno what it's called). I can't take any screenshots because my PC is in bits and I'm far to lazy to put it back together and I doubt it'll run on the laptop.

All the grass is just a flat texture, there's no substance to it. It's like someone took a photo of some leaves and grass and just tiled it across the ground of the map. There are bushes and stuff that look like bushes and stuff but there's no blades of grass at all.

This is what I mean about the grass in CoD, there's blades of it. e.v.e.r.y.w.h.e.r.e.
http://i.imgur.com/oQVR4Ly.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DlsgGBa.jpg
06:38pm 28/11/13 Permalink
Towley
Sydney, New South Wales
63 posts
I can't believe he just walked behind and shot those players behind the prison gates,(0.41) I guess that's what happens when you don't attack and just camp in the one position lying down!!





the punish system is working because at 2.06 he used an incendiary and killed a player and he was also killed for using explosives...
12:39pm 30/11/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
786 posts
All the grass is just a flat texture, there's no substance to it. It's like someone took a photo of some leaves and grass and just tiled it across the ground of the map. There are bushes and stuff that look like bushes and stuff but there's no blades of grass at all.

What about these?

http://i.imgur.com/zizxB7E.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IRxdHls.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/G2JKj6D.jpg
02:39pm 30/11/13 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
111 posts
How does the game actually play?

All derp and no win?
03:26pm 30/11/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1644 posts
Plays like Battlefield it's good when it works
07:50am 01/12/13 Permalink
kappa
Brisbane, Queensland
2132 posts
Playing it on ultra with a 670 and it runs awesome + looks amazing.

Servers can be a little s***** at times though.
10:29am 01/12/13 Permalink
Ronnny
39 posts
So patch is out at 8pm brisbane time tonight and china rising at 9pm.
Looking forward to some new maps.

Actually patch is downloading now.
07:52pm 03/12/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
2014 posts
Installed new patch + china rising.

Load game, play for 4 minutes. Crash.

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

11:26pm 03/12/13 Permalink
Tyoson
Perth, Western Australia
295 posts
Been downloading all night. Bought it with the expansion for 56 bucks off CJS. Hope it runs alright :/
12:35am 04/12/13 Permalink
Murf
Gold Coast, Queensland
11 posts
I've actually had hardly any mid game crashes. It happened all the time in BF3 but hasn't really been a problem for me in BF4. One crash i do tend to get quite alot is when the game ends and we win the match, the game just crashes and goes straight back to battlelog... it doesn't take me back to the game lobby. Anyone else have this issue?
12:47am 04/12/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
809 posts
I've actually had hardly any mid game crashes. It happened all the time in BF3 but hasn't really been a problem for me in BF4. One crash i do tend to get quite alot is when the game ends and we win the match, the game just crashes and goes straight back to battlelog... it doesn't take me back to the game lobby. Anyone else have this issue?

Yeah here and there. It's about the only crash or problem I get.

Other than that, the game has terrible hit rego. I see people strafing left to right really fast while firing (Im talking about spamming the keys like 10 times a second) to misalign their hitboxes to their characters. It seems to work a treat for them.
09:08am 04/12/13 Permalink
Towley
Sydney, New South Wales
72 posts
Some Video footage in Spectator Mode -Rogue Transmission "MP_TheDish"

http://youtu.be/z5mfgrKE_HU
10:17am 04/12/13 Permalink
Towley
Sydney, New South Wales
74 posts
Where do I report Hackers on my server with Ausgamers?

Now I am registered with GGC Stream.net but they won't accept anything but PB Screenshot but Ausgamers have disabled this function due to performance issues.

I have plenty of video footage
10:58am 04/12/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
21296 posts
I committed the cardinal sin and bought BF4 on console, got it for XBox one. It was a spur of the moment thing :( Its actually quite good though, looks great and isn't *quite* as spastic on a controller as I was expecting. I mean, I'm still pretty spastic at it, but I guess everyone else is too, so it self-balances a bit hehe. Pretty fun though, maybe its cos I can just stretch out on the lounge while playing it, and cos it feels less serious I give less f**** when I die or when I lose.
11:04am 04/12/13 Permalink
Timmeh
Brisbane, Queensland
2512 posts
Any bough it for ps4? Im just trophy whoring on cod ghosts till mates can afford a console/shops get stock.
12:48pm 04/12/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22485 posts

What about these?

http://i.imgur.com/zizxB7E.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IRxdHls.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/G2JKj6D.jpg

grassy, but see those stupid leaf textures? they're everywhere. It just looks tacky to me. Though I suppose with the levels as huge as they are, if they were really detailed they'd probably run like ass.
08:45pm 04/12/13 Permalink
MrPenguin
4 posts
It's still very buggy for me but for some reason I keep going back?
11:30pm 04/12/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8862 posts

I committed the cardinal sin and bought BF4 on console


It's happening.. Khel is turning.
08:59am 05/12/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
21301 posts
Its just my experimental phase!
10:40am 05/12/13 Permalink
Timmeh
Brisbane, Queensland
2515 posts
"It was one time in college"
11:06am 05/12/13 Permalink
Tyoson
Perth, Western Australia
298 posts
Tried joining 3 different servers, game keeps crashing. Got to weapon selection once. F*** this game, f*** EA, and f*** origin. F***en bulls***. Should still be in Alpha.
12:57am 06/12/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
844 posts
Something's wrong with your s*** Tyo. Most people are way past that now.

How old is the system? Give it a format, probably full of old porn.
09:00am 06/12/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
14734 posts
Oh Khel, buying Bf4 on Console is part of the next phase. Your experimental phase was playing maybe Halo or something. You are going to go through a range of emotions; denial, anger, depression and eventually acceptance.

I'm sorry bro, it's over. The PC Master race must remain pure.
09:08am 06/12/13 Permalink
Tyoson
Perth, Western Australia
299 posts
Something's wrong with your s*** Tyo. Most people are way past that now.

How old is the system? Give it a format, probably full of old porn.

Nah the games just an unstable piece of s***. Defragged and ccleaned my PC last night as well. Had no issues with any other game.

Got an ATI 5850, 12GB of ram, an i5 750. I can still max source engine games, and play bf3 on high.
09:37pm 06/12/13 Permalink
Tyoson
Perth, Western Australia
300 posts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MknLARblrDQ

I feel like this guy right now...

EDIT
It was punkbuster. Had to manually update it, and now I'm having no issues. God what a piece of trash.
09:43pm 06/12/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1674 posts
Looks like there was another update this morning, game is running smoother and smoother with each update


Edit: Nope crashed again...
10:33am 08/12/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22500 posts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MknLARblrDQ

I feel like this guy right now...

EDIT
It was punkbuster. Had to manually update it, and now I'm having no issues. God what a piece of trash.

Punkbuster is the biggest pile of s*** ever to plague the gaming community. Considering it doesn't even work half the time (you still see hackers on PB servers) I don't know why everyone doesn't just ditch it and get more active admins on the servers. Oh right, because that would be too much effort.

Oh and as per the other thread, I fixed my mousey input lag type of deal. I googled about for "tweaks" and one of them addressed the feeling of input lag. It still feels like inputs are queued though, one behind the other.
05:08pm 08/12/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
2017 posts
I'd much rather play the new maps than the original maps. Having a lot more fun with them.
10:06am 09/12/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
868 posts
I'd much rather play the new maps than the original maps. Having a lot more fun with them.

I think the air superiority with 10+ helicopters per team is bad.
10:45am 09/12/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
2018 posts
Ah I don't play air superiority, didn't enjoy it in bf3 so I don't bother with bf4.

I mainly play conquest.
11:30am 09/12/13 Permalink
Dan
Special Text
Brisbane, Queensland
14906 posts
Air Superiority was good for leveling the stealth jet and attack chopper. Way faster than I would have gotten all those unlocks in the other game modes.
11:34am 09/12/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
2019 posts
Good point, might look at doing that for the chopper. No interest in jet's myself :o
11:43am 09/12/13 Permalink
natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
8309 posts
I've been enjoying the update (i think, it's all new to me). Since i followed advice on here and don't join 64 player servers everything's been great. Mainly playing 32 or 48 player hardcore servers where there's variety in missions and maps.

I don't like the pewpew bs of Normal (i'm too inaccurate to hit someone 20 times).
03:49pm 09/12/13 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
123 posts
Yeah when I spam guns I like getting value for it.
04:10pm 09/12/13 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1490 posts
I found Infi in the game the other night, He got me 2 times and I got him once.
09:06pm 09/12/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22505 posts
I've been enjoying the update (i think, it's all new to me). Since i followed advice on here and don't join 64 player servers everything's been great. Mainly playing 32 or 48 player hardcore servers where there's variety in missions and maps.

I don't like the pewpew bs of Normal (i'm too inaccurate to hit someone 20 times).

I hate noobcore in any game. I shot a guy in the chest with a sniper rifle from about the equivalent of maybe 2 car lengths away in real life.... he just kept on going. Yeah, what a load of BS. Noobcore gives you way too much health / nerfs the guns far too much.

Getting hard to find a non china game that isn't full now though :(
10:23pm 09/12/13 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1491 posts
I got the mortar the other night, Got a few kills with it. I play on the Locker only server half of the time.
07:40pm 10/12/13 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20852 posts
XD Bladerunner

Locker is soooo boring do something that requires skill
08:27pm 10/12/13 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1492 posts
The problem is I lack such things as skill and just need some easy upgrades. I unlocked 2 machine guns tonight. Next going to do more stuff with recon.
09:23pm 10/12/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22507 posts
what's with every server running either paracel or that one with the snow (I think it's locker?). I love paracel, but I want some others with jeeps I can attach c4 to. (I don't have china rising)

The problem is I lack such things as skill and just need some easy upgrades. I unlocked 2 machine guns tonight. Next going to do more stuff with recon.

I'm not even bothering trying to unlock stuff. I'm just running around like an idiot trying to blow s*** up with c4 or flying around in the choppers being a fly in the enemies ointment.

What game mode are you lot playing and which server?

Tonight I had a bit of a d*** about with nvidia's shadow play, recording some of my shenanigans. It's the best thing ever! I didn't even notice any slow downs at all with it recording (unlike fraps). I like how you can just not bother recording everything but if you do something awesome hit a hot key and it saves x amount of time before you hit the button.
02:00am 11/12/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
886 posts
Tonight I had a bit of a d*** about with nvidia's shadow play, recording some of my shenanigans. It's the best thing ever! I didn't even notice any slow downs at all with it recording (unlike fraps). I like how you can just not bother recording everything but if you do something awesome hit a hot key and it saves x amount of time before you hit the button.

Yeah, last I checked it's a b**** with SLI still.

SOON!
09:22am 11/12/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22508 posts
I've just got a single card and it seems to work well. Recorded my c4 jeep shenanigans last night


Unlike fraps, I didn't even notice it was running while it was recording. Some stuff I recorded manually and some I let it do its automatic time shifting thing. Both worked well with no noticeable lag in the game. The s***** quality of the video is just the way I encoded it for youtube, the raw video looks like it does in game more or less.
06:07pm 11/12/13 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10613 posts
I got china rising for 33 dollars off mexico origin. I think 30 bucks is a fair deal for the small amount of hours I'll play this game.
06:55pm 11/12/13 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1494 posts
I have stopped using Fraps these days, I use Dxtory. http://exkode.com/dxtory-features-en.html

Only trouble so far I have had with it was, the audio recording was set to PCM instead of MP3 for videos.

Just started using the SKS, its got a nice fire rate, no wonder I see people using it a lot. I should really play on some other servers, I only been playing on locker.

Yeah i got premeium now, thanks to the glorious mexico and a VPN thing. Looks like EA/Origin Mexico don't care about region locking as much.
09:11pm 11/12/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22511 posts
man i hate operation locker. like tonight the team i was on blocked the other team in their spawn, they couldn't get out or move at all. same happened last night except I was on the team locked into spawn. Just random nades lobbed into enemy spawn from just outside, camping on the paths leading from spawn and inside randomly firing rockets into the doorways to the enemy spawn. such a fail map
10:28pm 11/12/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
901 posts
man i hate operation locker. [...] such a fail map

It's the Metro map for now. Once locked into uncap you're pretty much f***ed unless they derp it up big time.
11:35pm 11/12/13 Permalink
Tyoson
Perth, Western Australia
311 posts
I have stopped using Fraps these days, I use Dxtory. http://exkode.com/dxtory-features-en.html

Only trouble so far I have had with it was, the audio recording was set to PCM instead of MP3 for videos.

Just started using the SKS, its got a nice fire rate, no wonder I see people using it a lot. I should really play on some other servers, I only been playing on locker.

Yeah i got premeium now, thanks to the glorious mexico and a VPN thing. Looks like EA/Origin Mexico don't care about region locking as much.

Dxtory is well worth the money. Far better than fraps. Haven't tested in BF4 yet though, hoping to record some gameplay when I can get myself in the mood to play again.
12:30am 12/12/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
903 posts
Action! is also good recording software.
08:49am 12/12/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
21327 posts
Yeah, shadowplay is awesome, my only real gripe with it is you can only record things that are in fullscreen. I usually play WoW for example in a maximised window, and shadowplay wont record it unless I change it to fullscreen in the graphics options :(
11:33am 12/12/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22515 posts
man, I gotta say. I'm loving this whole c4 + jeep thing. I never got the chance to do it in bad company 2 because others would always steal the jeeps or it would end up killing team mates. But in BF4 I've stuck to noobcore servers and no one seems to want the little jeep things so I just go to town sticking c4 all over them and go chase some tanks. It's awesome fun.

Did a bit of a distraction tactic the other night. Drove a C4 laden car up to a tank but missed the mark. Dude got out to take a look, snuck up behind him and stole his tank. lol.

Dunno what's up with the s***** quality, don't bother with 1080p. It looks flawless on my PC, youtube has broken it :(
07:14pm 12/12/13 Permalink
Towley
Sydney, New South Wales
86 posts

Our pistols and knives only server was a blast I took it to another level, now it is shotguns only , everyone is having a good time on our server !!

BF4 Banditos

http://battlelog.medalofhonor.com/bf4/servers/show/pc/66160d1f-5064-4b24-99f1-07c4f03538ff/BF4-Banditos-Shotguns-ONLY/


07:25pm 12/12/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1688 posts
Nice one Whoop lol
07:30pm 12/12/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8871 posts
Since China Rising, my two fav servers are now empty when they used to be at capacity or full :(
11:20pm 12/12/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22518 posts
tell me about it. I don't have china rising and it's getting hard to find decent games that aren't 24/7 paracel or fail locker. I love paracel but some times I just want to drive a jeep :*(

beep beep
12:01am 13/12/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
929 posts
Put the right 3 people into a Littlebird and it's unstoppable..

..and hilarious..
09:23am 13/12/13 Permalink
Keato
Melbourne, Victoria
603 posts
yeah i play with 5 guys, we either boat it with me being repair b**** or little bird with 2 repairers.. its insane how OP that little bird is with 2 repairers.
11:54am 13/12/13 Permalink
kappa
Brisbane, Queensland
2135 posts
Even just 1 repairer can keep it up for ages.

Those attack boat things on Paracel storm are very OP if your team can hold A and keep 3 boats up and running. Have at least 1 with SAM as secondary for taking down aircraft. Dominates the map.
11:59am 13/12/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
935 posts
Even just 1 repairer can keep it up for ages.

Those attack boat things on Paracel storm are very OP if your team can hold A and keep 3 boats up and running. Have at least 1 with SAM as secondary for taking down aircraft. Dominates the map.

We can dominate 3 boats, even if each one had a stinger/repair on them. Littlebird and teamwork = the most OP vehicle in the game by a mile. We were taking out boats over 1000m away and out of lock range, not that getting hit by 4+ stingers in a hassle with the right setup.

I pilot as a Support and I throw a bag onto the chopper before leaving. One squaddie as stinger+rep and one as SMAW/SRAW+rep. Unlimited ammo. Sting a vehicle at 300m to flare it out, then 3+ missiles fired after flare for a '1 hit'. If they have repairers, the stinger guy needs to hold off firing for about 1 second longer than he should to ensure they can't get any repair time in.

SRAW/SMAW smash the boats in about 3-4 shots, 1-2 with help from the heli's cannons, which take out the guys in the back so quick that they have to pick between going for a swim or dying. We flew into a clusterf*** with 2 boats and a heli against us, came out on top with a server on the rage. Jets? No problem. If anything, AA using machine guns with someone who's a really good s*** is the only thing that can get in the way of said rape-fest.

Adding the kdr among the three chopper people and you're looking at a round average of between 8 and 10 to 1. I hope they don't nerf it, but instead buff everything else. It's rewarding for the whole chopper crew when all this teamwork makes the difference.
12:30pm 13/12/13 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20872 posts
The China Rising maps are fully sick.
02:39pm 13/12/13 Permalink
Dan
Special Text
Brisbane, Queensland
14933 posts
I'm pretty satisfied with the stability of BF4 on PC now, so I'm pretty miffed that we still don't have a date for Second Assault DLC. If they hadn't have made that pledge to supposedly redirect all development efforts onto fixing stability issues across all platforms, it would have been out by now.

Surely it's feature complete, because the maps have been on Xbox One for weeks now, so release it on PC already :S
03:10pm 13/12/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
942 posts
Yeah it's been good since the first big client patch. S***** hit rego still but that's Battlefield.
10:45am 14/12/13 Permalink
Crakaveli
6404 posts
Anyone having issues with getting auto balanced away from their friends? S*** is so frustrating because you can't change teams once one of us has been auto changed.
05:12pm 14/12/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22599 posts
Question for the jet pros (if there's any here) do you use a joystick? I see people doing some absolute bulls*** with jets / choppers. Flying the choppers with a mouse is ok but trying to fly the jets with one is just retarded. I've tried an xbox controller and I just can't get used to it for either planes or choppers (weird considering i can fly an rc chopper with a controller which is pretty much the same layout as an xbox controller).

Like turning around in a jet. I see people pretty much turn on a dime to go from in front of me to directly behind me and I have no idea how the f*** that's even possible because it takes (me) forever to turn around using the mouse because you have to keep moving it for pitch up / down to work.

So does anyone use a joystick / pedals setup? Are you THAT into it? I only ask because it seems a bit bulls*** that you've got guys on the server going 30+ kills to 0 deaths in a jet that no one can seem to catch or shoot down. I want to try and beat them at their own joysticky game.
01:16am 30/12/13 Permalink
Tyoson
Perth, Western Australia
338 posts
Been playing the campaign and glitched through the door of the ship and couldn't walk back. I wandered around for a while, fell out the edge of the ship and swap around underneath it, unable to return to the surface while being swarmed by large waves. Excellent game. 0/5
02:24am 30/12/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22600 posts
heh. couple of weeks ago in conquest I spawned under the map and was wandering around under there. dunno how the hell that happened but yeah, spawned and fell through the floor.
03:23am 30/12/13 Permalink
Timmeh
Brisbane, Queensland
2570 posts
ICompared to pc people on ps4 are beyond s***. I cant get in a helo without some cod knob flying straight into the ground. There goes 6 tickets.
09:35am 30/12/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1629 posts
Question for the jet pros (if there's any here) do you use a joystick? I see people doing some absolute bulls*** with jets / choppers. Flying the choppers with a mouse is ok but trying to fly the jets with one is just retarded. I've tried an xbox controller and I just can't get used to it for either planes or choppers (weird considering i can fly an rc chopper with a controller which is pretty much the same layout as an xbox controller).

Like turning around in a jet. I see people pretty much turn on a dime to go from in front of me to directly behind me and I have no idea how the f*** that's even possible because it takes (me) forever to turn around using the mouse because you have to keep moving it for pitch up / down to work.

So does anyone use a joystick / pedals setup? Are you THAT into it? I only ask because it seems a bit bulls*** that you've got guys on the server going 30+ kills to 0 deaths in a jet that no one can seem to catch or shoot down. I want to try and beat them at their own joysticky game.
Just use Mouse+Keyboard.
Battlefield jets are so stupid and dogfights in them are even more stupid though.
They require no energy management skills (apart from airbrake/afterburn if fighter jet) and whether you high yo-yo or low yo-yo to maintain ~300 speed (if it doesn't have AB's like the Q-5 fantan or A-10).
Even real modern jets can't just keep pitching a high angle of attack and pulling 9G's forever, it will eventually run out of kinetic energy and eventually stall.

#1 - the optimum turn speed in BF4 is the same as BF3, 300.
Anything more than +/- 10kph of that is a big difference to your turn radius.

#2 - you can't just keep looking at your target (can only look around when flying straight) so it's kind of a guess as to what they're doing based on what you think their move should be to what your move is.

#3 - Use Mouse, Bind a key to up elevator (Pitch up). for e.g. I have "F" bound to pitch up, so in dongfights you can just hold F and don't lose any time where you would be picking up the mouse once you ran out of room.
Then use mouse for aileron roll, A/D for rudder (useless in Battlefield really)

#3 - ACM, the type of turn you make makes a difference. You don't always want to just be turning horizontal or vertical loops.
You can do rolling scissors in Battlefield jets which will usually get you behind most scrubs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF70t5qJpoU
Here's a vid of me in a 2v1 dogfight playing IL-2 Cliffs of Dover on ATAG the other day. [Full engine management]. SpitfireIIa vs x2 BF109 Emil-3's.
Flying CLOD makes Warthunder FRB look like child's play.

Note the first ~30seconds how I do a reversal without ever doing a full 180' turn or 360' turn by using scissors. Burned too much Kinetic E and couldn't close the gap afterwards.
~2:00 is high and low yo-yo's.

After those tips, its just practice. I highly recommend not getting too bothered about being a Battlefield jet pro. I only jump in them these days if I'm getting destroyed on foot or need to take out an ok pilot that keeps taking out all our stuff.
09:57am 30/12/13 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
148 posts
That makes me so sad reading how s*** bf3/4 jets are. I mean the fact someone can compete with a kb+mouse and it's a valid tactic to slow down and just circle around like a spastic shows how low the skill ceilings really are. How did they f*** up this game so badly?
11:38am 30/12/13 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1535 posts
Infi got me again last week. http://imgur.com/4I8bHen
04:13pm 30/12/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22602 posts
My setup is this-
Throttle: W / S
Roll: A / D
Yaw: Mouse left / right
Pitch: Mouse up / down

I think the instant turns I see people making (in choppers at least) comes from a keyboard or joystick set to yaw because I tried last night in the test range and it makes one hell of a difference to turn speed but I can't actually play like that, I end up all over the place.

It just sort of ruins a game when you have one person in a jet with a stupid score like 30 kills to 0 deaths and no one can shoot them down because the out of bounds ranges take them outside of the range of ground to air missiles, and no one in a chopper or jet can shoot them down because they're somehow able to magically get behind and instantly shoot them down.

I am considering the possibility of maybe they are hacking but i do realise people probably are that good. Just pisses me off when "pros" jump into a game that's obviously full of newbs, just for easy kills.
08:09pm 30/12/13 Permalink
Timmeh
Brisbane, Queensland
2572 posts
On a side note I bought this book today about battlefield 4 like a walkthrough book with placecards of maps. Has a behind the scenes of dice section at the front with info from bf1942 to bf4.

pretty good read.
08:27pm 30/12/13 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20937 posts
BladeRunner it ain't personal, it's business. That was on Rogue Transmission? That's a real fun map. Now that I am unlocking assault rifles armor whores can sleep at night. Once I am doe and back to engineer God help them.

That Little Bird is a f***en joke though. I sank 6 stingers into one on Paracel and the c**** kept repairing it. They need to fix that s***.

I had the same bug in campaign Tyoson. You just have to keep reloading the level and try getting to the door different ways until the next part is triggered.
08:44pm 30/12/13 Permalink
Tyoson
Perth, Western Australia
342 posts
Gotta f***en love how this game crashes in the campaign as well. And when you get passed that bulls*** hard tank bit only to get headshotted by infantry was passed that bit and have to go all the way back to the tank bit, and then the game crashes again.
-1/5
09:25pm 30/12/13 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1536 posts
Perhaps repair needs a change. For example if you get hit a few times in a tank and have 30% hp left, then you repair. The overall hit points should be reduced to, say 95%. Every time you repair from heavy damage, your maximum goes down, to a minimum of 45%. That way you can not sit there in a boat/chopper and keep taking hits. Damage will out pace repair at some point.
10:33pm 30/12/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22603 posts
BladeRunner it ain't personal, it's business. That was on Rogue Transmission? That's a real fun map. Now that I am unlocking assault rifles armor whores can sleep at night. Once I am doe and back to engineer God help them.

That Little Bird is a f***en joke though. I sank 6 stingers into one on Paracel and the c**** kept repairing it. They need to fix that s***.

I had the same bug in campaign Tyoson. You just have to keep reloading the level and try getting to the door different ways until the next part is triggered.

this. 100 times this. I hit a little bird so much with so many f*****g stingers and had another team mate helping and nothing, just kept flying.

Also what's with the totally f***ed up 3d looking red / blue shift when you try to spectate on a server? it's retarded
10:58pm 30/12/13 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20938 posts
It would be a great meme for "haters gonna hate". Little bird flying away with 4 stingers chasin it.
11:00pm 30/12/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1050 posts
It would be a great meme for "haters gonna hate". Little bird flying away with 4 stingers chasin it.

Heyyy, don't f*** up the Little Bird gravy train. :( If they didn't have a support bag stuck to the side of it, they're doing it wrong anyways.
11:15pm 30/12/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22604 posts
i reckon for a repair the vehicle needs to be parked, soon as it's moving the repair stops. I've seen choppers survive multiple missile hits + AA guns shooting at it. It's just pure bulls***.
12:09am 31/12/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1752 posts
i reckon for a repair the vehicle needs to be parked, soon as it's moving the repair stops. I've seen choppers survive multiple missile hits + AA guns shooting at it. It's just pure bulls***.


No what's pure bulls*** is when your trying to play a decent game and your entire team are Recon guys sniping so they all hide and your the only one taking points, imo needs a limit on snipers makes some rounds boring as bats***.
10:02am 31/12/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1058 posts
i reckon for a repair the vehicle needs to be parked, soon as it's moving the repair stops. I've seen choppers survive multiple missile hits + AA guns shooting at it. It's just pure bulls***.

Use a laser deg for 1 hit. There's nothing more hilarious than smashing the other heli so hard that when he sees the missiles coming he starts jumping out instantly from then on. ;)

We take a stinger engy, and a sraw engy. I pilot as a support and throw a bag onto the chopper before we take off. Unlimited ammo. You can fire several sraws and chase them across the map to the passenger to guide them in. Downside is jets, laser deg, AA turrets shooting out passengers. It's certainly not infallible.
01:46pm 31/12/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22613 posts
aaand just had this guy in a plane the entire game. His 1 death was a suicide, no one was able to actually kill him (he ejected over his spawn, not sure why he suicided)
http://i.imgur.com/2zngD5L.jpg
Use a laser deg for 1 hit. There's nothing more hilarious than smashing the other heli so hard that when he sees the missiles coming he starts jumping out instantly from then on. ;)

You can't. They fly the plane / chopper outside of the boundaries and your laser can't lock on, they're not in the boundary long enough for it to lock on before they fly off out of the map again. You literally CAN'T shoot them down. There's nothing that will lock on.
10:47pm 31/12/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1067 posts
Oh, we just fly over the top of everything. Stinger + heatseakers is a quick death for anything. The other guy carries the wire guided for tanks, boats etc.

Pussies.
12:57am 01/01/14 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22616 posts
wish i could get a decent team where i'm not the only one trying to shoot these a******* down! add me to origin or some s***, I can fly a chopper ok but jets I suck at.
01:17am 01/01/14 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22617 posts
here's the video from willieoooo
He doesn't so much "exploit" the out of bounds areas like I've seen others do but seriously, the opposing team doesn't seem to make any effort to even try to shoot him down from the ground, and it seems like he'd shoot down choppers as soon as the opposition get in them (I was on the opposing team for a bit before I got sick of being the only one going after him)
06:20am 01/01/14 Permalink
LordHelyi
Brisbane, Queensland
1631 posts
And if you want to take them out just spam stingers at them, you might not kill them but you can lock them out of an area
That or stealth jet/AA with active radar.
10:04am 01/01/14 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22620 posts
You can't though, stingers are useless s*** from the ground, they take ages to lock on and by the time you've locked on they're out of range. Then they fly off to let their counter measures recharge and go for another run. Needs some decent opposing team members who actually try to take them out in jets / choppers. It's s***.
11:34am 01/01/14 Permalink
LordHelyi
Brisbane, Queensland
1632 posts
counter measures take 20+ seconds to recharge.
they will stop flying over certain parts of the map if they are constantly locked/disabled when they get near
04:11pm 01/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1072 posts
counter measures take 20+ seconds to recharge.
they will stop flying over certain parts of the map if they are constantly locked/disabled when they get near

Only things that can take down a littlebird with 2 engies is at least 4 stinger/aa hits within about 1 second, laser guided missile, jet ram from above, or direct tank/rocket hit.

We fly over areas where we get locked so we can get ze kills. If it's a stinger guy, we count each one and pretty much wait for him to run out of ammo and move on. It's only when I see at least 3 seperate stinger locks that I start moving away. It's those times I'll use a countermeasure.
05:33pm 01/01/14 Permalink
LordHelyi
Brisbane, Queensland
1633 posts
Nobody is talking to you about the littlebirds, we get it, you and your team are an unstoppable elite force.

It was about the jets.
06:45pm 01/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1075 posts
It was about the jets.

Oh. In that case your idea is pretty useless. You'll only take out a jet with another jet or good AA skills with the gun.

Unless they're derp, which Willio is not.

However, if he came at me and my mates in a Littlebird, he'd have no chance mk.
07:10pm 01/01/14 Permalink
LordHelyi
Brisbane, Queensland
1634 posts
Well I think I have more of an idea than you on the subject of what does and doesn't work so I'll leave it at that.
The idea isn't to kill the pilot, it's to dissuade it entering an area and if you're lucky you'll get a hit and force it to land and repair.

In battlefield there is little reason to deliberately take a run at an area knowing you'll have to drop your counter-measures when it's such a target rich environment that you can just go elsewhere on the map until the person gives up carrying the stinger which they usually do because they have tank/armour troubles.

1016 kills with the jets in BF4, BF3 jet kills was 5,927 (combined) [I stopped playing before close quarters].
Haven't played BF4 in about 2 weeks, and last game I played in a jet from battlefeed:

843
SKILL
+20
KILLS
41
DEATHS
2
K/D RATIO
20.5
LordHelyi
41 2 11,760

I avoid using them personally unless my team needs a boost and is getting absolutely destroyed. That's just my personal preference because battlefield jets to me are just a joke and I find it boring to "fly" them. It's not flying, it's driving in the sky and the 'dogfights' are hilariously bad.
08:42pm 01/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1079 posts
Well I think I have more of an idea than you on the subject of what does and doesn't work so I'll leave it at that.

Not when you come across me in a Littlebird with my team on board. Let me get all my stats up, hang on dude.
10:07pm 01/01/14 Permalink
LordHelyi
Brisbane, Queensland
1635 posts
You are mentally challenged aren't you
10:31pm 01/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
150 posts
Unless they're derp, which Willio is not.


looked pretty derp to me.

battlefield jets to me are just a joke and I find it boring to "fly" them. It's not flying, it's driving in the sky and the 'dogfights' are hilariously bad.


Come play some bf2 bro I'll show you how it's done.
01:10am 02/01/14 Permalink
LordHelyi
Brisbane, Queensland
1636 posts
Come play some bf2 bro I'll show you how it's done.
Do you do Falcon BMS or Cliffs of Dover? Actual Sims?
If so would be happy to join for some flights
02:26am 02/01/14 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22622 posts
i tried to get some people to sit in a chopper with me and repair it, no one wanted to so we all just made a mad dash to be the one sitting in the AA at spawn all map. oh yay

pheex what server do you play on? so i can join in the fun
05:37am 02/01/14 Permalink
Timmeh
Brisbane, Queensland
2583 posts
getting real sick of these recon f*****s who get in the choppers and fly and ditch onto certain buildings overlooking d and b on Seiege of Shanghai. dont even try to cap flags/defend flags.
09:15am 02/01/14 Permalink
BOOST
Brisbane, Queensland
629 posts
Only things that can take down a littlebird with 2 engies is at least 4 stinger/aa hits within about 1 second, laser guided missile, jet ram from above, or direct tank/rocket hit.


This is in non-hardcore mode? In hardcore the engineers usually get wiped out pretty easy. Also a good round of canon hits from the opposing littlebird usually does the trick.
09:17am 02/01/14 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20944 posts
Hah timmeh i know, total d bags
09:44am 02/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1085 posts
i tried to get some people to sit in a chopper with me and repair it, no one wanted to so we all just made a mad dash to be the one sitting in the AA at spawn all map. oh yay - pheex what server do you play on? so i can join in the fun

I haven't played in about a week or two, but sure. Add me on blog, ph33x. Won't be on till later this arvo though.

This is in non-hardcore mode? In hardcore the engineers usually get wiped out pretty easy. Also a good round of canon hits from the opposing littlebird usually does the trick.

I was referring to normal. Yeah the time I find I die is when my engies get shot out cause it's rare to have so many locks at the same time.
09:46am 02/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
151 posts
Do you do Falcon BMS or Cliffs of Dover? Actual Sims?
If so would be happy to join for some flights



Once you jet in bf2 you have no need for flight sims.
11:41am 02/01/14 Permalink
LordHelyi
Brisbane, Queensland
1637 posts
Once you jet in bf2 you have no need for flight sims.
Arcade driving in the sky isn't for me.
02:23pm 02/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
152 posts
Arcade driving in the sky isn't for me.


What does that even mean?

Oh you play games for "realism"?
02:33pm 02/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1089 posts
What does that even mean?

Oh you play games for "realism"?

Why are you talking about BF2 anyways? We're up to BF4 now dude, swallow whatever s*** you're chewing on and move into the future.

Unless you want to face me in UT99 and I'll show you what skills are about. Or Mario 1, or Asteroids on Atari 2600. Geddit?

Now stop being a b**** and tell me the order for drum cymbals, left to right. I just bought a DM10 and dual kick pedals and I'm gonna become George Kollias overnight you watch. Crash > Ride > Crash/China yeah?
02:36pm 02/01/14 Permalink
LordHelyi
Brisbane, Queensland
1638 posts
What does that even mean?

Oh you play games for "realism"?
When it comes to flight, yeah.
I'm an avid aviation fan in the real world as well so naturally yeah, I like my combat flight stuff to be close to the real thing. Flying fighter aircraft (be it WWII or modern) is about a lot more than who can just pitch-up constantly (stick in stomach disease) and making the correct geometrically shortest turn to the targets six or deflection shot.

In real aircraft and sims if you mismanage your energy and the aircraft you can't/won't always be able to take "the best angle".
Pointing a real aircraft very precisely is actually very difficult.
Planes wobble, bounce and drift around if you manhandle them to get shots. They're like boats in the sky. Not trains on rails in the sky (battlefield/arcade games).

I'm by no means a Sim. Ace. It's very difficult, but fun!

last edited by LordHelyi at 15:04:57 02/Jan/14
02:59pm 02/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
153 posts
Why are you talking about BF2 anyways?


Because there isn't a single fps game out post-bf2 worth talking about?

I'll show you what skills are about.


ahahah stop it

Now stop being a b**** and tell me the order for drum cymbals, left to right. I just bought a DM10 and dual kick pedals and I'm gonna become George Kollias overnight you watch. Crash > Ride > Crash/China yeah?


hmm not sure. Think it depends on whatever your setup is. I'm just a guitarist.

When it comes to flight, yeah.
I'm an avid aviation fan in the real world as well so naturally yeah, I like my combat flight stuff to be close to the real thing. Flying fighter aircraft (be it WWII or modern) is about a lot more than who can just pitch-up constantly (stick in stomach disease) and making the correct geometrically shortest turn to the targets six or deflection shot.


That's fair enough.

I still think you might be confusing jets in bf3/4 to jets in bf2. See the thing that s**** me most about bf3/4 jets is that it's stupid to try and track the other jet because there are no rear facing or flyby external views - just a stupid chase front cam that offers f*** all. People circle in bf3/4 because it's impossible to keep the enemy jet on cam during a split-s or rolling scissors for example.

In bf2 you have 3 main cam views and the management of those views is essential. Being able to scissor, using the correct rudder for the situation, close to the ground/water isn't ezmode bf3 jet bulls***.

The thing that, imo, sets bf2 jets over sims is that it doesnt matter what jet you or I choose, I'll still beat you if I'm a better pilot. There's no jets that outclimb or outrun other jets, there's no running away, no slowing down no "perfect turn speed" bulls***. Even if your jet turns sharper than mine I'll still win because I can boss you with rolls that you can't follow and you'll end up failing to manage the distance between us and pop out in front of me.

It's very difficult, but fun!


Sounds exactly like bf2 jets :)

Here's one of the best pilots in the world:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NsIXTmhx-Q

First opponent and last opponent aren't bad, middle two give away their lead with poor turns.
03:55pm 02/01/14 Permalink
cherocha
Queensland
312 posts
It's weird seeing people talking about jet killstreaks, jihad jeeping, and OP littlebirds as if it's all very fresh, instead of BF3 two years ago.
06:07pm 02/01/14 Permalink
LordHelyi
Brisbane, Queensland
1639 posts
The thing that, imo, sets bf2 jets over sims is that it doesnt matter what jet you or I choose, I'll still beat you if I'm a better pilot. There's no jets that outclimb or outrun other jets, there's no running away, no slowing down no "perfect turn speed" bulls***. Even if your jet turns sharper than mine I'll still win because I can boss you with rolls that you can't follow and you'll end up failing to manage the distance between us and pop out in front of me.
But if you were to try to fly like that in a real aircraft or sim you'd be out of energy in no time.
Looking at that vid, the basic necessary skill is knowing which turn to take (and managing views). Which is cool, it still takes knowledge to know which way to turn and when.

But no 'dogfight' from the invention of the Wright Flyer to the F35 of today can dogfight like that. Not even a modern jet has enough thrust ratio to overcome inducing that much drag from constantly flying at high angles of attack.
You also can't just hold the rudder full over as that induces extreme amounts of slip and induces a roll due to one wing not being shielded by the fuselage thus generating more lift than the other.
Hold it with a little counter aileron and some elevator pressure to keep the nose up and hey presto you've got an induced spin from stalling one wing out ;)
(which if you're trying to track a target and take a shot, people do accidently do it - it's called cross-controlling an aircraft, it's usually a big no-no unless your intention is to spin out)

Anyway, I'm not saying that BF2 fighting doesn't take skill, that guy would know what turns to take and when better than I would (Like I said I'm no ace).
But I'm just saying it's not flying. It's almost like saying being a Mario Kart pro makes you the next Ken Block :)
08:33pm 02/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1093 posts
It's weird seeing people talking about jet killstreaks, jihad jeeping, and OP littlebirds as if it's all very fresh, instead of BF3 two years ago.

So edgy.
08:58pm 02/01/14 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20946 posts
I just shoot guys in the head.
09:20pm 02/01/14 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22624 posts
It's weird seeing people talking about jet killstreaks, jihad jeeping, and OP littlebirds as if it's all very fresh, instead of BF3 two years ago.

I'm new to battlefield. I played bad company 2 online but I don't remember jets. The majority of games I played in, it was all about the tanks and sniping each other from either end of the map (meaning you had to aim straight up to compensate for the drop lol). Also choppers were useless because people would always just snipe the pilot and be done with it so no one used them.
10:33pm 02/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1095 posts
I'm new to battlefield.

Are you SHAD on blog?
10:48pm 02/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
154 posts
Not even a modern jet has enough thrust ratio to overcome inducing that much drag from constantly flying at high angles of attack.


I agree, I guess it's like how no person can be hit directly with a tank shell and then revived by defibrillators and continue fighting, still fun though right? :)

I'm new to battlefield. I played bad company 2 online but I don't remember jets. The majority of games I played in, it was all about the tanks and sniping each other from either end of the map (meaning you had to aim straight up to compensate for the drop lol).


Yeah there were no jets in bc2.

I always wondered why they included scopes with turrets, like some classy NXS or AI scope (that you could easily dial in ranges negating the need to hold over) but didn't let you adjust the zero. The as50 and others in arma/dayz were awesome for that reason.
10:52pm 02/01/14 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1544 posts

Are you SHAD on blog?


I am. :D
04:03am 03/01/14 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22629 posts

Are you SHAD on blog?

I don't know what that means

if "blog" means battlelog, this is me here for clicking
06:48am 03/01/14 Permalink
LordHelyi
Brisbane, Queensland
1641 posts
I agree, I guess it's like how no person can be hit directly with a tank shell and then revived by defibrillators and continue fighting, still fun though right? :)
Good point! :)
My enthusiasm for aviation blinds me to that idea I will admit :P
09:30am 03/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1102 posts
It's funny watching Noah on the other end of the same debate which happened a month ago. No really, lol.

Comparing BF2 jet fighting (totally arcade, fly how you want) to a flight sim is like comparing bullet deviation in Quake (none, arcade, hardcore, shoot as accurate as you want) to bullet deviation in BF (lots, random, rng, not skill based). To say you need to be skilled to beat the rng bullet deviation in BF is like saying you need to be skilled in a real flight sim to handle the real nuances of flying a far more real jet.

Pick your poison.
12:20pm 03/01/14 Permalink
LordHelyi
Brisbane, Queensland
1647 posts


I think you're trying to say flight sims don't simulate the real nuances of flying a real aircraft.
To which I'd say unless you fly both flight sims and real aircraft. What authority are you?
Your analogy was really bad.

last edited by LordHelyi at 12:36:47 03/Jan/14
12:34pm 03/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
155 posts
Comparing BF2 jet fighting (totally arcade, fly how you want)


It's funny watching you still talk about bf2 like you have any idea how anything in the game works or feels. You never played it, you were never good at it so your opinion of bullet deviation, dogfighting or anything else in the game means nothing.

In fact, you've never offered any evidence you're remotely good at any game you play (unless your pr0 w0w guild or your strong littlebirding in bf4 is supposed to be evidence?) At least when I make statements about bf2 it's backed up by the fact I boss it up.

btw if it's "totally arcade, fly how you want" then come show me how it's done. See? Never going to happen.


BF (lots, random, rng, not skill based).


lol can't aim, blames deviation. bad
01:53pm 03/01/14 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
23956 posts
Now would be a good time for a smug Arma post.

Except I suck majorly at it :(
02:27pm 03/01/14 Permalink
Tyoson
Perth, Western Australia
346 posts
Come mining with me on Runescape. I'll show you how much faster I smash out coal mate.

Is the multiplayer stable yet? I haven't tried again since the first time I played it. I fear for my fists.
02:53pm 03/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1108 posts
I think you're trying to say flight sims don't simulate the real nuances of flying a real aircraft.
To which I'd say unless you fly both flight sims and real aircraft. What authority are you?
Your analogy was really bad.

You didn't pick up on my analogy. If you were here, you'd see this is the tail end of a second debate. (In on your side if you like 'sides' so shut up)

lol can't aim, blames deviation. bad

You've even admitted yourself there is deviation, just like how in a flight sim there are a ton of other things to manage so get with the times and stop telling us how good you are in a close to decade old arcade game with a simple flight engine. It's old now dude. Telling us how good you are in a game which is 2 generations old simply points out how bad you must be in the newer games. You know, the newer games that nobody besides you has a problem playing.

I didn't play BF2? Whoa f***. I wonder why I have all these memories of running my own clan and competing in several ladders. Them 500 odd hours of play are just a dream. Please say something that indicates to me that you have any clue on what you're talking about.

Evidence of bossing it up. Dude. A screenshot of a random scoreboard and a montage video doesn't indicate much. If I really gave a s*** I'd bother to make one, but I feel that people who make 'look how skilled I am' videos are compensating for something else. I could do one, sure, but I'd feel lower afterwards. The people I play with daily know I'm great at all games I play, except for hardcore RTS such as ladder games in Starcraft. (Even then, Starcraft is my fav RTS game because of custom maps and what the game offers me.)
03:57pm 03/01/14 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
14891 posts
ph33x going on about non skilled based anything but quake games. Bahha you wont change his mind, he is a fanatic.
04:00pm 03/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1109 posts

ph33x going on about non skilled based anything but quake games. Bahha you wont change his mind, he is a fanatic.

Quake was merely an example, there are tons of great games with great hit rego. CS, DoD, UT, Quake, even Borderlands. Actually, my original post said that BF was the only game I know of with s***** hit rego. I used Quake instagib as an example because I'll assume a sheer majority have played it or seen it played, and nothing more. (UT is a better, more balanced game, but it still has perfect rego)

FWIW: I've played Quake twice last year, both times having to sign up new QL accounts, and they were to pass time while I waited for other games to update. You're just making strawman points after the fact. Weak sauce dude.

Deviation: http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f10-pr-bf2-general-discussion/33803-bullet-deviation.html

Urban Dictionary (lol): http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=random%20bullet%20deviation

Blog for BF3: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2832654489502587437/
Also. It has been in every battlefield game to date, bad company 1, 2. battlefield 2, vietnam. Every single game. Your post was for nothing. It was already in the game, they just increased it. In case you missed my first line.

Saying there is no deviation or randomness just reveals yourself to be some kind of social gamer who hasn't probably played anything but BF, and therefore have nothing to compare it with. I mean how else can't you notice it? If you've ever worked with modifying BF2 files for servers (I have) you'd know there are files for each gun and within the files there are settings for deviation. They even have the word 'deviation' in settings. Just lol.
04:03pm 03/01/14 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20947 posts
this is not brain surgery, it's a game.
04:31pm 03/01/14 Permalink
LordHelyi
Brisbane, Queensland
1650 posts
(In on your side if you like 'sides' so shut up)
Mate, you have some serious psychological attributes that are rather alarming.
04:45pm 03/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1110 posts
Mate, you have some serious psychological attributes that are rather alarming.

Because you drew a totally opposite conclusion from what I had said? Grats.

Mate, champ, buddy, allow me to slow down - just for you though. I was explaining to Noah that a flight sim will be harder to operate/play/fly/dogfight with than a silly arcade game such as BF and if he wants to be all "Come boss me" at you (or anyone for that matter), then he should do so in a game which actually requires some form of skill to play. Maybe a game without fake external switch-to cameras which he's already indicated that he needs to survive.

From what he's written so far, he hasn't even played BF3/4 enough to realise he can manually look around from inside the c***pit. A very basic feature that he's not aware of, yet he wants to give opinion of the game. Just lol.

Capishe?
04:52pm 03/01/14 Permalink
LordHelyi
Brisbane, Queensland
1651 posts
No, I got it.
But you are disturbed.
05:38pm 03/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1111 posts
No, I got it.
But you are disturbed.

Haha. Constructive debate goes out the door once again.
05:58pm 03/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
157 posts
Evidence of bossing it up. Dude. A screenshot of a random scoreboard and a montage video doesn't indicate much. If I really gave a s*** I'd bother to make one, but I feel that people who make 'look how skilled I am' videos are compensating for something else. I could do one, sure, but I'd feel lower afterwards. The people I play with daily know I'm great at all games I play


I posted a screenshot? You either understand the content of the vids that were posted or you don't. Even helyi, who I don't think has played bf2, recognised that tokei knew how to fly.

The videos I've posted, both mine and others', aren't there to convince you I'm good at bf2. That's not even up for debate. It's to demonstrate that there are many forms of the game that require skill.

The only people I've ever heard say s*** about vidoes like that are complete s***bads.

I was explaining to Noah that a flight sim will be harder to operate/play/fly/dogfight with than a silly arcade game such as BF and if he wants to be all "Come boss me" at you (or anyone for that matter), then he should do so in a game which actually requires some form of skill to play. Maybe a game without fake external switch-to cameras which he's already indicated that he needs to survive.


500 hours of bf2 and you still didn't work out how to manage deviation? F*** you must have been bad.

If you think bf2 has no skill then you should be able to load up and compete with me right? So load up and jump on dalian and we'll see how much skill you do or don't have. But you won't.

What clan did you run? If you had any old BRs it would nearly be worth downpatching to watch them for the inevitable lols.

Fake external switch-to cameras? As opposed to fake self-engy littlebirds with ammo packs magically rearming SRAWS stuck to the side? Or fake 3d map showing enemies on your screen?

From what he's written so far, he hasn't even played BF3/4 enough to realise he can manually look around from inside the c***pit. A very basic feature that he's not aware of, yet he wants to give opinion of the game. Just lol.


Freelook is nothing new. It's in bf2 as well. But its woefully inefficient when using a joystick and doesn't come close to using flyby, chase rear etc. If you weren't horrifically bad that point would have been f*****g obvious.
06:18pm 03/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1112 posts
500 hours of bf2 and you still didn't work out how to manage deviation? F*** you must have been bad.

How do you manage something which is random? I suppose you clean up with poker machines too.

Also, why would I keep old BRs of old games which I haven't had installed for years? BRs mattered for the 2 hours it took for a match judgement to be filled out. After that they were trash unless you need the occasional d*** reinforcement. If you weren't so bad at everything else besides BF2 you would have let go of that game when everyone else did. Changing camera view while flying isn't hard stuff. Basically what you're saying is you're good at jets, only in BF2. Grats man. It's 2014 now.

I did 3 things (very well) in BF2, flew helis, drove tanks, and super fast medic spam. I did the same things in BF3, and still do in BF4 (but less tanks now). See ya in there when you're done wiping your feet in the sandpit that nobody wants to play in anymore.
06:27pm 03/01/14 Permalink
LordHelyi
Brisbane, Queensland
1652 posts
Haha. Constructive debate goes out the door once again.
Good edit.
This one isn't quite as insane.
06:36pm 03/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
158 posts
How do you manage something which is random?


By knowing how to move and shoot so the deviation is always as small as possible. It has had almost no effect on my gameplay since about 2007. The biggest thing is dropped packets/netcode causing dust and thrus. Hitting the model isn't hard, getting them to rego can be sometimes.

Also, why would I keep old BR's of old games which I haven't had installed for years?

Landaxe and other old school bf2 players kept a lot of bf2 brs of good ladder finals and stuff they were a part of. Since you were a bf2 esports champion I thought you might have saved some of the epic moments.

If you weren't so bad at everything else besides BF2 you would have let go of that game when everyone else did.


lol how can I be bad at games I never played? Why would I spend money and time playing games I don't enjoy? Look at ali3nz, of course you can get good at bf3/4 I just find it totally unenjoyable. I'd rather stay boss at bf2 and invest my time playing guitar instead.

Changing camera view while flying isn't hard stuff.


Then show me you cam changes bro I'm dying to see them. Dalian?

I did 3 things (very well) in BF2, flew helis, drove tanks, and super fast medic spam


Ahahah ph33x the chopper legend? Sorry doesn't ring a bell. Tell me more about what dojs you were good at. Inb4 you could solo mg and thought that meant good at chops. How much 2v2 did you play? None? What's a map key? duddage.

Super fast medic spam? lol I don't even know what to say. You're sure you're not stockweaponry?

Come on bro if you want to bulls*** how good you are at games then at least pick another game.
06:49pm 03/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
159 posts
Good edit.
This one isn't quite as insane.


haha
06:49pm 03/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1113 posts
Ahahah ph33x the chopper legend? Sorry doesn't ring a bell. Tell me more about what dojs you were good at. Inb4 you could solo mg and thought that meant good at chops. How much 2v2 did you play? None? What's a map key? duddage.

What? Why so terminology? I fly with a gunner and use my long term experience to know when to favour the gunner, when to roll/dodge, when to attack or avoid. My job is keeping the s*** in the air, keeping an eye out for what's coming and cleaning up armoured vehicles. Attacking jets from the pilot seat of a chopper in BF2 was never ideal, so you make sure the gunner is in a good position to attack when times are favourable. The key to a good chopper was both a decent pilot and a decent gunner with good communication. - How many more failed inb4 hurdurr attempts are you going to make? Since when did very well turn into 'legend'? So drama.

See, if you genuinely thought I was bad, you wouldn't have bothered engaging in this discussion any further. However, since I've come to realise that all you have is flying jets in Battlefield 2, I'll be the one to terminate the bickering. Come play BF4 when you're good and ready man, you can m4d b0$$ my Littlebird anytime you like, haha
07:09pm 03/01/14 Permalink
Tyoson
Perth, Western Australia
348 posts
1v1 ill fokn rek u all
07:25pm 03/01/14 Permalink
LordHelyi
Brisbane, Queensland
1653 posts
I'm beginning to think ph33x is one of those people that spins lies in a vain attempt to earn respect which actually has a paradoxical effect.
07:32pm 03/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
161 posts
What? Why so terminology?


Wrong answer I'm afraid. If you were even an average heli player you would have understood everything I said.

Attacking jets from the pilot seat of a chopper in BF2 was never ideal


Soloing jets has been easy since Jack.Nader used to do it in 2006. Please stop talking, that entire paragraph is f*****g tragic.

Thank you, though, for confirming my suspicions that you were never even slightly good at bf2.
07:52pm 03/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1114 posts
"In before solo chopper hurdurr" - *Talks about soloing stuff*

You're a retard man. Learn to BF4.

I'm beginning to think ph33x is one of those people that spins lies in a vain attempt to earn respect which actually has a paradoxical effect.

Your opinion lost traction when you went from constructive debate to sarcastic baseless insults. Enjoy your day.
07:59pm 03/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
162 posts
"In before solo chopper hurdurr" - *Talks about soloing stuff*


I don't think you really underst....

Yeah, nevermind. I'll accept your rage quit and move on.

2 from 2. I thought you were good at forums?
08:08pm 03/01/14 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1546 posts
ITT
http://i.imgur.com/1zFC09C.gif

This battle is between Ph33x and Noah. I support team Ph33x, mainly because his avatar is Dave Chappelle.
08:17pm 03/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
164 posts
Not a fan of the kevin rudd pikachu :(?
08:33pm 03/01/14 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1547 posts
Its Kevin Rudd pikachu? I had no idea. That is pretty cool but old Dave gives me lols.
08:38pm 03/01/14 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20949 posts
Noah, move with the times mang. Get with the program. You sound like an old man who only plays canasta.
09:23pm 03/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
165 posts
Noah, move with the times mang. Get with the program. You sound like an old man who only plays canasta.


Na when the last aussie bf2 server shuts down I'll probably quit gaming. I've resigned myself to the fact there will never be another game like it.
09:27pm 03/01/14 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1548 posts
Noah, move with the times mang. Get with the program. You sound like an old man who only plays canasta.


http://imgur.com/TXtFQw6
09:31pm 03/01/14 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20950 posts
bf2 was s***. the reason i left (eventually) was it was impossible to get a one shot kill with sniper. and i f***en hate snipers. but if a game cannot allow a sniper to get a one shot kill then it is s***.
09:34pm 03/01/14 Permalink
Tyoson
Perth, Western Australia
349 posts
bf2 was s***. the reason i left (eventually) was it was impossible to get a one shot kill with sniper. and i f***en hate snipers. but if a game cannot allow a sniper to get a one shot kill then it is s***.

Nah. Snipers are as irritating as one shot archers in Chivalry. Just annoying human beings.
09:43pm 03/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
166 posts

bf2 was s***. the reason i left (eventually) was it was impossible to get a one shot kill with sniper. and i f***en hate snipers. but if a game cannot allow a sniper to get a one shot kill then it is s***.


Please allow me to put your mind at ease:

The best in the world:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXzxkUV5efI&feature=player_detailpage#t=50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pRm_mvFhtY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMOdV3clo-A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7qq16yBHnA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrTIuMzz9uM&feature=player_detailpage#t=27

After those, here's 3 of mine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ccXam6No4I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li5CTLE3nOY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GM0Pxwxz1E

Ah man so good watching all those old videos again. Cheers infi.
09:52pm 03/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1116 posts
11:43pm 03/01/14 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22632 posts
Holy s***, what have I done? All I wanted to know is if using a joystick in bf4 is the way to go and I've started world forum war 3.

In case anyone cares, the answer to my original question is: yes. I bought a cheap $30 joystick and although it still feels weird (maybe if I held it between my legs it'd feel more natural, hurrrrrr) it's a lot easier than quickly swapping between the keyboard to pull massive g's and I actually had a pretty decent run. Didn't manage to shoot many down but I did manage to not get shot down instantly! (I think I did have like a 7 kill streak though, maybe 5, which is amazing for me)

In other news, got myself an RC chopper, gonna put my BF4 mad chopper skills to good use flying this bad boy around my back yard
11:59pm 03/01/14 Permalink
baz
Victoria
392 posts
Bf4 is OK, I just hate sun glare, lens flare, fog, smoke and s*** that generally means you can see a f*****g thing.

The puddles look mint tho. It should be a game about collecting water samples imo.
12:08am 04/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
167 posts
lol
12:33am 04/01/14 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1550 posts
@ Whoop - Cool, tell us how the joy stick works out more once you break it in a bit. Post pics and details of this RC chopper you got. I have an RC Tiger 1 tank.
08:45pm 04/01/14 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22637 posts
nope, not posting anymore. look at this thread! all because I mentioned joysticks! I am a bad person :(
01:36am 05/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
168 posts
nope, not posting anymore. look at this thread! all because I mentioned joysticks! I am a bad person :(


I'm going away for a month tomorrow so I won't be around to post my anti-bf4 propaganda.
10:12am 05/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1127 posts
I find your videos pretty lol. Look at the time differences between each segment in a single clip. 10:26AM, 11:55PM, 2:40AM, 5:32PM, 3:45PM, etc etc.

All these highly varying times between every sub-clip indicating that s***fest of you pulling out days of source vids to find 3 mins of good shots. In your 2v2 heli vids you wrote in the vid description how well you smashed them but you happen to press tab during the match to reveal the fact they're bashing you haha!

You do the occasional slowmo to show when a true shot misses, however you never do a slowmo on them shots where the round hits a wall 4 feet from their head and then you get a kill for it. Cool game when you shoot a wall several feet away and get a kill for it. Must be why it's still really popular.

Nothing special here. Upload some source vids, or a vid of you nailing more than 2 people in a single segment. I couldn't find anything that impressive. I bet the pub noobs you were up against in that old game are all highly regarded esports professionals too lol.

Is this yours? I don't think you qualify for giving judgments on BF3 or BF4. Churs m8.
01:29pm 05/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
170 posts
lol it continues.

Yes because all clips must be in chronological order right? On average I frapsed for about a week for any inf video. Some specific kills like wake drags, huge no scopes etc were saved until I could be f***ed frapsing. The three videos are called "Singles" because they are exactly that, single kills that I thought were cool.

Just to put your mind at rest. I have no issue hitting streaks in a game where they're actually a thing.

What 2v2 video? I sure hope you didn't mean this one. Might just wanna read the description again bro, notice the large dose of sarcasm? The video was pure trollins of the highest order, between myself and aza.

The inf box is tiny. I play with 30 ping. I do slow down chopper boxes where the box is far greater, especially when we're playing against euro pilots with 350 ping. It's a product of server side hit detection and not limited in any way to bf2 - as I'm sure you already know.

lolstats. I guess you might have a point. It's ok bro, kdr is overrated.
01:51pm 05/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1129 posts
Well you asked people to check out your vids and I'm commenting on them, don't get sad over valid points. I could just call you a virgin like the Youtube people but I have more substance than that, even though you actually are a virgin.

I just mouseover'd your links to see if I was mistaken and you had given your BF3 account that qualifies you for opinion. Alas, I am disappoint. :(

(And slowly your undoing begins, as you prove against yourself that I did play BF2, even if you did link the wrong account. Such a fail.)
02:03pm 05/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
171 posts
So pretty much your entire post of straw clutching gets shut down and now you've given up.

Oh well back to the cricket.
02:08pm 05/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1130 posts
Not at all. I made a claim that your videos would be full of edited sections and they ended up being just that. I knew this would be the case because I've seen countless videos of countless games and it's always the same stuff. The killstreak vids are the best.

'lolstats?' - more like 'lolvideos' where you simply handpick the good moments to show how 'skilled' you are. Glory seeking at it's finest right there.

I didn't bring up the stats to show how bad of a player you are, but to show the minimal hours you've spent in it. S*** man, I spend half my time throwing C4 at people and ramming mates in flying vehicles, not that super serious about stats.
02:16pm 05/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
173 posts
Not at all. I made a claim that your videos would be full of edited sections and they ended up being just that. I knew this would be the case because I've seen countless videos of countless games and it's always the same stuff. The killstreak vids are the best.

'lolstats?' - more like 'lolvideos' where you can handpick just the good moments and use that to show how 'skilled' you are. Glory seeking at it's finest right there.


That's because its a frag video and not a commentary or a playthrough. Look at all the videos I posted to infi from hint, kirste, reflex etc. They're all edited clips together. It's what fragvideos are. A vid showing short streaks with amazing kills > long killstreak of easy kills.

I didn't bring up the stats to show how bad of a player you are, but to show the minimal hours you've spent in it. S*** man, I spend half my time throwing C4 at people and ramming mates in flying vehicles, not that super serious about stats.


But yet you're still an authority on whether bf2 takes skill or not. Ok.

I'm sure you and I are the only ones who even remotely give a f*** about this discussion, so if you want to continue it lets do it in PMs. Otherwise gg.
02:30pm 05/01/14 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
23968 posts
It's actually kind of refreshing to see an argument about video games. You guys should have a Quake 3 duel and record it on fraps or something.
02:42pm 05/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1131 posts
That's because its a frag video and not a commentary or a playthrough. Look at all the videos I posted to infi from hint, kirste, reflex etc. They're all edited clips together. It's what fragvideos are. A vid showing short streaks with amazing kills > long killstreak of easy kills.

Amazing kills aren't hard. Amazing kills all the time is hard. I would record my play and pull out all the good s*** but my give-a-f*** meter for that stuff is pretty low considering how easy it is to achieve.

But yet you're still an authority on whether bf2 takes skill or not. Ok.

Coming from BF1942 and with 600 hours played and having a ton of other great FPS games to compare to, I feel I am. It's also reinforced when much time was spent by some of the better players mucking around with interpolation/extrapolation settings to get the best hit rego. Remember that? Come on meow... - Because you admittedly only play BF2, I don't even think you know what real skill is unless your get-off is aiming at invisible hitboxes and being all like "f** yea im pr0 at this bad game".

I'm sure you and I are the only ones who even remotely give a f*** about this discussion, so if you want to continue it lets do it in PMs. Otherwise gg.

"Hurdurr - So pretty much your entire post of straw clutching gets shut down and now you've given up." - Please spare us any more trainwreck BF2 videos and BF2 banter unless you have something seriously impressive that we all haven't seen a thousand times before, over 8 years ago. gg lol.
02:44pm 05/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
176 posts
My "get-off" is dominating a game that because of rego is difficult to inf (cqc snipe) in, and backing it up by being a decent pilot in jets with high skill ceilings and a handy chopper gunner. Does that give me the right to comment on whether games I haven't played take skill or not? No. BF3 for example, does take a lot of skill to snipe as well as ali3nz does, but my issue is that I don't enjoy playing it. I'm not arrogant enough to claim that a game like UT, css, quake, which I never really played, takes no skill.

Coming from BF1942 and with 600 hours played and having a ton of other great FPS games to compare to, I feel I am


And despite that experience were absolutely horrid at every aspect of bf2? Total cabbage player with no evidence of being good at anything, forgive me not valuing your opinion. You're like those duddage guitarists that post on Hendrix videos saying "bro i can soo play beta then this" and you click on their channels and they have no videos.

unless you have something seriously impressive that we all haven't seen a thousand times before


Find any other bf2 player from Australia who can hit wake drags like I did, or snipe in general like I could. You won't find any, because there are none. It's that simple. Don't compare me to players from other games, compare me to other bf2 players.

inter and extra has f*** all effect on inf box under 200 ping. Its main use is for chopper boxes and tv curl. These "better players" sound like duddages. And that is the problem, you don't even understand what you're talking about but you think you know the game well enough to comment on how much skill it takes.

What the f*** is a trainwreck frag video?

I would record my play and pull out all the good s*** but my give-a-f*** meter for that stuff is pretty low considering how easy it is to achieve.


Then record an entire round and upload it. I can't wait to see these boss inf skillz.
03:20pm 05/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1132 posts
My "get-off" is dominating a game that because of rego is difficult to inf (cqc snipe) in, and backing it up by being a decent pilot in jets with high skill ceilings and a handy chopper gunner. Does that give me the right to comment on whether games I haven't played take skill or not? No. BF3 for example, does take a lot of skill to snipe as well as ali3nz does, but my issue is that I don't enjoy playing it. I'm not arrogant enough to claim that a game like UT, css, quake, which I never really played, takes no skill.

Then record a full round of QuakeLive instagib. Come back with a positive kdr against people who shoot at things that are lined up perfectly with their hitboxes. Since the playstyle you like is jumping around and getting 1 hits with sniper guns, you shouldn't be out of your league in a game like QuakeLive. It's a few hundred MB and runs on integrated graphics, kgo.

You didn't enjoy playing BF3 because you were bad at it. I see the highest time spent in vehicles was jets, and your KPM was the worst. Every other vehicle that you sat in, you did better than jets. I also see the most kills with sniper guns, and using less than 10 overall guns for any decent amount of time. You didn't adapt to the new game, you didn't even give it a chance. Instead you had a sook and ran home to your BF2 videos that seem to make you feel secure. Congrats on being a bad overall FPS player - one that needs to pull the best parts out of average gameplay to prove he's not a redundant mouth breathing human. My sides.
03:40pm 05/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1133 posts
So rego. Much Hit. Wow :)

http://i.imgur.com/brtJBco.png
03:45pm 05/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
179 posts
Congrats on being a bad overall FPS player


Oh no, captain cabbage thinks I'm bad at fps.

Make a video bro it'll be funny.
04:05pm 05/01/14 Permalink
cherocha
Queensland
328 posts
Mate, you have some serious psychological attributes that are rather alarming.

Been saying that for nigh on 2 years. Glad the psychopathy is obvious to other people.
04:11pm 05/01/14 Permalink
Crakaveli
6412 posts
would you two just f*** already
04:21pm 05/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1134 posts
Make a video bro it'll be funny.

I need to prove nothing. Make more vids and seek acceptance from them lol
05:03pm 05/01/14 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20961 posts
making vids of your eports is a total lol
05:13pm 05/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
181 posts
Burns the toast everytime.
05:16pm 05/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1135 posts
making vids of your eports is a total lol

Not to mention some of these vids date as little as 6 months ago. Serious much?

I bet next time there is a thread about flying jets I'm sure BF2 boy here will chime in and remind us how awesome he is at 'driving in the sky'.
05:43pm 05/01/14 Permalink
Tyoson
Perth, Western Australia
350 posts
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
05:55pm 05/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
182 posts
Serious much?


It was ph3/10x wasn't it? I'm sorry.

What's your opinion on 70g ballistic tips vs say 87g v-max. .243 1:10, not looking to shoot much over say 350 and at light skinned stuff. Go with the higher BC or the higher velocity? I'm leaning towards the noslers but I'm not sure.
06:25pm 05/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1136 posts
What a nuclear powered submarine meltdown of a post.
06:38pm 05/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
183 posts
I'm going to interpret that as a no to the v-max.
06:56pm 05/01/14 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22638 posts
All these highly varying times between every sub-clip indicating that s***fest of you pulling out days of source vids to find 3 mins of good shots.

That's all I'm doing :( No one wants to see me run around for an hour getting shot and end up with a 2 - 15 score (which is pretty usual for me).
07:19pm 05/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
185 posts
That's all I'm doing :( No one wants to see me run around for an hour getting shot and end up with a 2 - 15 score (which is pretty usual for me).


Do you enjoy making videos? If so who cares.
07:33pm 05/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1138 posts
Do you enjoy making videos? If so who cares.

If the 'making them' part was fun, they'd be stored on your hard drive. The part you enjoy is where you post them and hoping that everyone goes "Oh SLinKy you are soo good at BF2! Marry me!" but it never happens.

Instead you get called a virgin by Youtube virgins haha
07:38pm 05/01/14 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
23973 posts
Noah is your name Pat irl?
07:39pm 05/01/14 Permalink
LordHelyi
Brisbane, Queensland
1654 posts
You don't. If making them was fun, they'd be stored on your hard drive. The part you enjoy is where you post them and hoping that everyone goes "Oh SLinKy you are soo good at BF2! Marry me!" but it never happens.
I dont think storing vids on your harddrive is necessary for "enjoying making vids".


Hey Noah, you should come fly some RC planes ;)
Unfortunately my Hurricane is out of action for the last.... 4 months, still rebuilding [Actual airframe is airworthy but I destroyed engine mounts]. Software error trying to mix camera control with surface control.

My MKII Hurricane up to ~1200ft odd. [1080p]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wm1rwXFskU

F4U corsair chasing Cessna :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rWtpoyHC8Q
08:04pm 05/01/14 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22639 posts

If the 'making them' part was fun, they'd be stored on your hard drive. The part you enjoy is where you post them and hoping that everyone goes "Oh SLinKy you are soo good at BF2! Marry me!" but it never happens.

Instead you get called a virgin by Youtube virgins haha

you're absolutely right. how have i been so blind. I will now remove all my youtube videos, go outside, find a tree and hang myself. thanks for your help
09:14pm 05/01/14 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20963 posts
Thats too much effort for whoop
10:30pm 05/01/14 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
186 posts
If the 'making them' part was fun, they'd be stored on your hard drive. The part you enjoy is where you post them and hoping that everyone goes "Oh SLinKy you are soo good at BF2! Marry me!" but it never happens.


They are all stored on my hard drive. It's just sharing them to people is impractical when your upload speed is 128k as it was for a lot of my early videos. The vast majority of the videos I've made are unlisted, shown maybe to one or two people but largely kept on there incase my hdd ever dies.

I was in a sniper clan called rSG in which it was common practice for its members to release videos on a regular basis, which is how I got into it in the first place.

As for "oh slinky etc..." that s*** is a bonus. There were, years ago, people who genuinely enjoyed my videos and that's cool. But far too few for that to be the primary reason to make them. Also a lot of feedback was simply "You're hacking" or Chocoblaster's pure hatred.

I can see why you'd think this is about ego and reputation etc, but it's not. I just enjoyed playing bf2 a great deal and enjoyed making videos, both gaming and guitar as well. It's awesome to go on a nostalgia trip and remember the funny and epic moments from 6+ years of an awesome game.

Noah is your name Pat irl?


Na bro my name is Jarryd.

Hey Noah, you should come fly some RC planes ;)


Looks awesome man. Is it hard to get used to flying them from the ground? I'd be f***** nervous coming in to land for the first time lol.

Anyways glhf brb in February.
12:49am 06/01/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
1140 posts
gg, tata.
01:01am 06/01/14 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
6654 posts
07:35pm 07/01/14 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22684 posts
edit: ^^^ ahahha that guy's hilarious.

not quite a jet swap but I thought this was pretty funny

04:59am 26/01/14 Permalink
MARLINBLADE
Queensland
601 posts
Fellas, i know this is a big ask, but does anyone have a BF4 key they would be ok with whoring out for the day on Saturday so a mate of mine who's a console noob can get a taste of pro PC BF4 at a LAN at my mates house?

Big ask, but worth a try... he's already shelled for it on Xbone and he's too tight to spend another 59 bucks for another key....
07:44am 13/02/14 Permalink
TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
6056 posts
cheapest way is to buy it from mexico using vpn so cheap marlinblade its like $30
08:36am 13/02/14 Permalink
MARLINBLADE
Queensland
602 posts
Yeah right... didn't think of that... cdkeysdirect is cheapest i've seen 59 bucks with china rising, but cause he's already bought it for the xbone he's too tight to shell for another...
08:43am 13/02/14 Permalink
CC
USA
2 posts
How is the 1918 mod incorporated into the BF 1942 directory tree?

Replace the 1942 Mods directory?
08:20am 08/07/14 Permalink
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07:43pm 03/08/14 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
16107 posts
Spawn Keys? I trust CJS more.
09:02pm 03/08/14 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
2328 posts
Just got another copy of this crap last week. If you get it through Origin, you lose out on about $7 once you buy both Vanilla + Premium. Wasn't worth the sign up with a cd key company at the time.
10:35am 04/08/14 Permalink
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