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IPv6 - What does it require?
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21831 posts
Ok so I'm bored over here, messing about as usual staying up too late and this time it's IPv6's fault. Who here is running it and what exactly does it need to work?

I'm using an old sb5100 modem (cable) and a laptop with Windows 8. Does Telstra give out native IPv6 addresses yet, or is it still just tunneling and 6to4 stuff? Would I need to buy a new modem to get a native ipv6 address? I don't exactly need one for any specific reason, just curiosity at this point.

result of the ipv6 test website:
Your IPv4 address on the public Internet appears to be (a secret)

Your Internet Service Provider (ISP) appears to be telstra

No IPv6 address detected [more info]

Good news! Your current configuration will continue to work as web sites enable IPv6. [more info]

You appear to be able to browse the IPv4 Internet only. You will not be able to reach IPv6-only sites.

Your DNS server (possibly run by your ISP) appears to have no access to the IPv6 Internet, or is not configured to use it. This may in the future restrict your ability to reach IPv6-only sites. [more info]


Even if I enable the 6to4 stuff in my router, still my DNS server comes up as not being ipv6 enabled so is that telstra's fault, or just because my cable modem is too old?
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trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
36973 posts
Your ISP needs to support it and your modem does. Internode & my modem support it but I haven't bothered trying to get it working other than to actually turn it on and get an IPv6 address, then I gave up. I don't know the status of Telstra stuff.
12:07pm 12/05/13 Permalink
eXemplar
Brisbane, Queensland
2839 posts
DNS servers don't need to be ipv6 enabled (as such) as the root servers all have ipv4 addresses and returning AAAA is the same as returning any other address record. You won't, however, be able to connect to that address without all that other stuff.

Look up teredo tunnelling, I believe a few windows editions support this.
01:01pm 12/05/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21832 posts
I know what teredo is and 6to4 and it's what I want to avoid because enabling them also makes pings jump from 50ms to over 200ms when I ping google.com. I can get them working easy peasy. I was trying to get native support (no other reason other than I was curious / bored).

Oh well. If going native means I need to buy another modem then screw it, I'll just wait until a) this one dies or b) telstra tell me I have to. Not gonna go upgrade only to find out they don't even support it yet.
03:17pm 12/05/13 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
10024 posts
In 1995 my QUT networking lecturer told us what we were learning was a waste of time, IPv4 would be dead with in 2 years... uni's are such nG!
05:17pm 12/05/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21834 posts
and 25fps is all you ever need, right?
05:28pm 12/05/13 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
10025 posts
25 is all you need.
You may want more.
07:29pm 12/05/13 Permalink
3x0dus
Townsville, Queensland
1771 posts
The SB5100 can operate as in bridge mode, under this ipv6 would work.

I have the Telstra 597v3? I think it is, ADSL modem looking at it last week it received an update about a month ago recieved an update for IPV6, I have enabled but no ipv6 leads are being supplied as yet.
07:46pm 12/05/13 Permalink
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
36974 posts
In 1995 my QUT networking lecturer told us what we were learning was a waste of time, IPv4 would be dead with in 2 years... uni's are such nG!
it's a grand shame that your lecturer was wrong
08:12pm 12/05/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
13671 posts
Why do I even want IPv6 at the moment?
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ara
Sydney, New South Wales
3666 posts
The SB5100 can operate as in bridge mode, under this ipv6 would work


the ISP still needs to hand out IPV6 addresses, which currently telstra bigpond do not.

maybe soon though, they recently started doing IPV6 transit so maybe it is in the works.
12:51pm 13/05/13 Permalink
greazy
Brisbane, Queensland
5840 posts
Why do I even want IPv6 at the moment?

To be prepared for the future where IPv4 is redundant because there are too many devices on the internet.
04:26pm 13/05/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21839 posts
the ISP still needs to hand out IPV6 addresses, which currently telstra bigpond do not.maybe soon though, they recently started doing IPV6 transit so maybe it is in the works.

So let's say I have my sb5100 plugged into a router, that router gets its ip from telstra (I assume), if and when they turn on ipv6, does that mean I don't have to actually do anything (other than turn it on, on the router)? What is this bridge mode you speak of? There's not really any settings in the modem config other than the DHCP server which only seems to do anything when the modem is in standby (it gives the computers an ip from a internal ip range afaics).
05:46pm 13/05/13 Permalink
ara
Sydney, New South Wales
3668 posts
So let's say I have my sb5100 plugged into a router, that router gets its ip from telstra (I assume), if and when they turn on ipv6, does that mean I don't have to actually do anything (other than turn it on, on the router)? What is this bridge mode you speak of? There's not really any settings in the modem config other than the DHCP server which only seems to do anything when the modem is in standby (it gives the computers an ip from a internal ip range afaics).


i think a SB5100 is just a cable modem. Bridge mode is make routers behave like modems, so you can hand off the routing task to another device. If they supported IPv6, they would hand out IPv6 addresses via DHCP (DHCPv6) also.

http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/hw_feature_242 has some info on IPv6 at Telstra atm and is consistent with my experience.
02:08am 14/05/13 Permalink
Red
Sydney, New South Wales
1057 posts
I've got a couple of ipv6 tunnels from Hurricane Electric (http://tunnelbroker.net/) - it's a great way to learn about ipv6. They have a 'certification' program which makes you do certain ipv6 'stuff' (setting up ipv6 mail servers and www servers and the like) if you're a total nerd like me. Dual stack is the way to go, you can force stuff to use certain protocols where you want.

They don't have any Australian POPs for the ipv6 tunnels which is a shame so my ipv6 traffic goes via Chicago/Seattle depending on which tunnel i'm using (I've set one up for my place in Sydney and my fam in Brisbane so I can test stuff across sites)

the greatest thing about ipv6 I think is abolishing NAT. That and the metric butt load of IP addresses you can get! Internode for example provide a /56 per customer, which is 256 /64 networks, which have 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 addresses each.
12:25pm 14/05/13 Permalink
Red
Sydney, New South Wales
1059 posts
I'm somewhat disappointed in the lack of interest for this topic...
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