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Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13682 posts

Here Be Spoilers



If you've read the books this is where you live. Those sooks can't handle it.

How the fuck will the nancy boys deal with the Red Wedding?

Obligatory videos:



So Joff finally dies in (this?) season? Do you think they will keep the blame for the poisoning as ambiguous as in the books?
09:34am 26/03/13 Permalink
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09:34am 26/03/13 Permalink
simul
Brisbane, Queensland
1540 posts
Spoilers!
09:38am 26/03/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13684 posts
Spoilers!

That's what this thread is for..
09:39am 26/03/13 Permalink
pARODY
Brisbane, Queensland
1142 posts
But we find out who poisoned him in the books. Margery's mother arranges it and Tyrion gets the blame.
10:03am 26/03/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13686 posts
But we find out who poisoned him in the books. Margery's mother arranges it and Tyrion gets the blame.

Yeh I know, pretty sure at the time it wasn't clear though?
10:06am 26/03/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1942 posts
Yeah I remember not being clear who poisoned him, I'm actually not clear on who was behind a lot of the intrigue, it seems like it was all mostly Littlefinger!

Also, great reads:

Southron Ambitions: http://towerofthehand.com/blog/2012/01/05-southron-ambitions/index.html

Top Conspiracy Theories: http://io9.com/5979065/all-the-game-of-thrones-fan-theories-you-absolutely-need-to-know

The compendium of conspiracy theories: http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/79775-compendium-of-theories/

I actually quite enjoyed the one about the northern lords playing Stannis and Ramsay against each other.

SPOILERS!?!
10:08am 26/03/13 Permalink
Monkeez
Sydney, New South Wales
218 posts
So Joff finally dies in (this?) season?

No probably next season, doesn't it happen towards the end of the book? Remember A Storm of Swords is being split into two seasons.
10:29am 26/03/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13687 posts
No probably next season, doesn't it happen towards the end of the book? Remember A Storm of Swords is being split into two seasons.

I really hope its this season. For some reason TV Joff annoys me even more than book Joff...
10:37am 26/03/13 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
931 posts
Spoiler:
Doesn't the Grandma poison Joff?? I thought she got one of those jewles out of Sansa's hair that littlefinger put there.
10:41am 26/03/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8546 posts
I can't wait to see how they handle the Red Wedding. It was incredibly quick in the books so I imagine lots of people rewinding and yelling "WHAT THE FUCK" at the TV.
10:50am 26/03/13 Permalink
JakeG
Thailand
1173 posts
So I will have to wait for the season after this one to see Tyrion crossbow Tywin? >_
11:19am 26/03/13 Permalink
Monkeez
Sydney, New South Wales
219 posts
So I will have to wait for the season after this one to see Tyrion crossbow Tywin? >_

Yes, I assume this will be the ending of season 4.
11:23am 26/03/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13688 posts
I reckon the Wedding will get a good chunk of an episode, its too pivotal.

Dani's adventures in the desert will surely get compressed a bit though?
So I will have to wait for the season after this one to see Tyrion crossbow Tywin? >_

Man feels good to speak freely about shit like that haha
11:28am 26/03/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5830 posts
Man feels good to speak freely about shit like that haha

Haha, yes, I approve of this thread.
11:33am 26/03/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8547 posts

Dani's adventures in the desert will surely get compressed a bit though?


Hopefully, I find her storyline mind numbingly boring.
01:26pm 26/03/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
600 posts
I can't wait to see how they handle the Red Wedding. It was incredibly quick in the books so I imagine lots of people rewinding and yelling "WHAT THE FUCK" at the TV.



Much like what happened when I watched season 1.

I hadn't read the books then, so it came as a shock. Was over so quickly I was like "uhh, wha?" and I let loose a single manly tear.

But I've since read the books (got a kindle for my b-day) and I think there are going to be a LOT of people freaking out over the red wedding.

I was in shock after reading it myself for a good few minutes, like "HOLY SHIT!".

I reckon the Wedding will get a good chunk of an episode, its too pivotal.


Again, the beheading of Ned was quite a big moment too and they just blitzed through it pretty quickly.
01:47pm 26/03/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16820 posts
list of episode titles:

1. "Valar Dohaeris"
2. "Dark Wings, Dark Words"
3. "Walk of Punishment"
4. "And Now His Watch Is Ended"
5. "Kissed by Fire"
6. "The Climb"
7. "The Bear and the Maiden Fair"
8. No title yet
9. "The Rains of Castamere"
10. "Mhysa"
01:52pm 26/03/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5832 posts
No title yet
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02:01pm 26/03/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13691 posts
Again, the beheading of Ned was quite a big moment too and they just blitzed through it pretty quickly.

There was a LOT of lead-up, he spent over an episode in the cell, and how long was the execution scene itself? I don't think it would be possible to spend more time on it, unlike a bloody wedding battlescene..

You can't very well take the point of execution and turn it into a full episode.

LOL @ no title yet
02:27pm 26/03/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20746 posts
Even if they do a lot of lead up to the red wedding, I hope the deaths themselves still happen fast, cos that was probably the bit that really made me go WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST READ in the book. Like, shit has got bad, and they're at a stalemate and you're thinking "Wow, Robb is pretty fucked" and then suddenly within a paragraph or two Umber is dead, Robb is dead, and then Catelyn is dead. That gutted me, I had to put the book down and come back to it a few days later after that chapter, so I hope its still like that in the show, where you're thinking "Wow, those fucking freys, robb is in the shit now" and the episode is about to end so you think thats as bad as its going to get, then BAM, dead, and it ends. And then the internet screams out in rage.
02:39pm 26/03/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13692 posts
Hmm maybe I'm coming around to that now.

I'm actually wondering how many people can make it to EP8 without it being spoiled. Surely there'll be some epic rick roll-style prank spoilers doing the rounds? Would it be safe to internet?

I almost want to make a page with size 100 font that just says in red on maroon

THEY ALL DIE AT THE WEDDING



But that would be mean .... right?
02:45pm 26/03/13 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
1476 posts
I can't wait!

They took all the stuff with Robb and his lady and made it into the main storyline, they might do the same with the No Title Yet
02:45pm 26/03/13 Permalink
JakeG
Thailand
1174 posts
Suddenly within a paragraph or two Umber is dead, Robb is dead, and then Catelyn is dead. That gutted me, I had to put the book down and come back to it a few days later after that chapter.


Haha so true, when that happened I felt like 'shit just got real'. This is what makes me love TV series, when they kill off main characters like they don't give a shit. It stays true to the tagline "you win, or you die."
03:45pm 26/03/13 Permalink
JakeG
Thailand
1175 posts
But that would be mean .... right?


LOL Hog.. pretty sure you can't get banned for that.. you'll just be swimming in the tears of people scared of big books.
03:49pm 26/03/13 Permalink
Ha
102 posts
Hopefully, I find her storyline mind numbingly boring.


seriously. if it wasn't for the belwas single combat in front of the wall to that city i would consider her adventures a piece of shit. i don't give a fuck about this crazy (seriously, she's breaking down) bitch grrm, get back where the action is. fucking dragons. they are the worst part of the books.
06:02pm 26/03/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20749 posts
I liked her bits in the third book where shes going around fucking up slavers, and I love the whole concept of the unsullied and how they train them (like the bit with giving them puppies to care for then making them kill them).

But fuck she annoyed me in the most recent book, spent the whole book swooning around like some lovesick naieve little girl.
06:19pm 26/03/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20750 posts
Haha, I wonder how long till one of us gets the Game of Thrones threads confused and posts in the tv show thread thinking its the book thread. I had to double check just then to make sure I was in the right thread
06:20pm 26/03/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1309 posts
I'm actually wondering how many people can make it to EP8 without it being spoiled. Surely there'll be some epic rick roll-style prank spoilers doing the rounds? Would it be safe to internet?


Have a look at the Game of Thrones facebook page, look at the photos of the actor that plays Robb Stark, everyone on there is like 'LOL K HE DIES' and the next person is 'OMG WTF' haha some funny reads.

Joff will die season 4 as it will set the scene for season 4 with Sansa, Tyrion on the run.

Robb Stark needs to just have his head cut off clean in the TV series, then the next frame with a wolf on this head so the general public who failed to l2read in school go WTF did I just watch, ditch the TV series and let the writers concentrate on the hardcore book readers
08:29pm 26/03/13 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
860 posts
Looks like the Red Wedding will be episode 9.

"9. "The Rains of Castamere" "

That's the song that was played by the musicians during the Red Wedding.
11:46pm 26/03/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2859 posts
It never occured to me that it was the old granny that did the dirty on joff. I remember thinking it was just some sort of "magic" that the drunk knight (forget his name) did (obviously he was just a lackey following instructions). I didnt even pick up the whole sansa's jeweler y thing.
02:13am 27/03/13 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
932 posts
I think little finger alludes to it in a later chapter/book when he catches up with sansa.
08:13am 27/03/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20753 posts
I wonder if they'll spend any time on the midgets jousting on pigs at the wedding. When one of those midgets turned up again in Book 5 I have nfi who she was supposed to be, I didn't remember that scene at all.
10:37am 27/03/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13695 posts
Really? How could you forget the midget jousting scene Khel?!
10:53am 27/03/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20755 posts
I know, its not like me to forget midgets, let alone midgets riding pigs, I must not have been in my right mind the day I read that chapter.
10:59am 27/03/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4048 posts
I am looking forward to seeing Tyrion stick an arrow in his old man. Not that I really dislike Tywin I just want to see Tyrion lose it and dish out a pretty big fuck you to the family.
12:39pm 27/03/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4049 posts
Looks like the Red Wedding will be episode 9.

"9. "The Rains of Castamere" "


If thats the case are we going to get to see Catelyn get ressed before the end of the season? Or will that have to happen a a good few episodes later? I only ask because I have already seen a pic of Catelyn all made up as her ressed self? Mind you it could of been a photoshop I supose.

Sorry about the double post
12:44pm 27/03/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13696 posts
Correct me if I'm wrong but after the red wedding there's a chapter or so of Tywin's involvement covering how the song was made because he's a fucking psycho and killed every living member of House Reyn? Pretry sure that the Freys got the nod from Tywin to execute them all.

Might be a flashback story or something, the song is basically all about don't fuck with the lannisters so maybe the series will end with a holy fucking shit aftermath episode
12:53pm 27/03/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
605 posts
If thats the case are we going to get to see Catelyn get ressed before the end of the season? Or will that have to happen a a good few episodes later? I only ask because I have already seen a pic of Catelyn all made up as her ressed self? Mind you it could of been a photoshop I supose.

Sorry about the double post


That sounds like something they'd probably not want to put out because spoilers!

Maybe it was a photochop *shrug* If not, it's kind of a big oversight.
12:54pm 27/03/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20756 posts
Yeah, that doesn't happen till the epilogue of the third book, and even then its just them recovering her body, she doesn't show up rezzed till like the fifth book
12:56pm 27/03/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13697 posts
Dondarrion's already cast, right? If he is maybe they're planning showing the resurrection as the cliffhanger? Bunch of mumbly mojo, misty magic shit then BANG EYES OPEN

edit: yeh holy shit, he's Richard Dormer (Season 3) according to http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Beric_Dondarrion and http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Beric_Dondarrion#Behind_the_scenes

The only reason for him to have a S3 role is to resurrect Catelyn?
01:00pm 27/03/13 Permalink
Monkeez
Sydney, New South Wales
220 posts
Yeah, that doesn't happen till the epilogue of the third book, and even then its just them recovering her body, she doesn't show up rezzed till like the fifth book

I thought she showed up rezzed in the epilogue of the third book?
01:02pm 27/03/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4051 posts
Slightly off topic here.

I only ask this because I am not very well read. Have any of you encountered another other book series that kicked you in the guts as much as A song of ice and fire? I don't think I have ever come across anything where so many of the characters you grow to love get killed so regularly.
01:03pm 27/03/13 Permalink
paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
17980 posts
Spoiler:
why are you spoiling this show for me hoggy?
01:12pm 27/03/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13698 posts
What are you doing in here pave? You don't read books, surely.
Slightly off topic here.

I only ask this because I am not very well read. Have any of you encountered another other book series that kicked you in the guts as much as A song of ice and fire? I don't think I have ever come across anything where so many of the characters you grow to love get killed so regularly.

A little different to Martin, but Donaldson's Thomas Covenant series pulls no punches and there's plenty of carnage and resulting broken people too.
01:14pm 27/03/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20757 posts
The only reason for him to have a S3 role is to resurrect Catelyn?


Not really, theres a fair bit with him and his brotherhood without banners, and when he duels the hound and stuff. And they need to do all that to set up the ressurecting anyway. And if it ends with them ressurecting her, then they'll either have a season without her and everyone will be going "So whats happening with Catelyn?" or they'll start mixing later books into the second half of the third book which sounds like it'd just start making things really mess I dunno, maybe they will, just seems like it wouldn't work so well to me, but then I'm not the one writing the show :P

I kinda like how in the books there was a decent chunk of time between when you see Dondarrion and Thoros of Myr and the brotherhood, and then when you see them again once zombie Catelyn has taken over and Thoros is all gaunt and fucked up and everything has gone really dark and to shit. I dunno if it'd be as good if those two things were back to back.

I thought she showed up rezzed in the epilogue of the third book?


Admitedly its been a few years since I read it, but I thought the 3rd book just finished with them recovering a body out of the river, and the reveal at the end was that it was Catelyns body. Then its not till you see Thoros again (in book 4? or 5? I dunno anymore) and you find out Dondarrion sacrificed himself to rez her, even though Thoros warned him it wouldn't be enough to rez her properly.
01:25pm 27/03/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4052 posts
Ahh cool thanks Hoggy I'll have to take a look
03:09pm 27/03/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16824 posts
according to the wiki, cat's resurrection takes place in a storm of swords, 3 days after the red wedding.
03:18pm 27/03/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1311 posts
+1 Catelyn being a cliffhanger

They will need to show the midgets jousting at the wedding, it plays a pivotal role in why Cersei accuses Tyrion of killing Joffery because he gets laughed at by Joffery and the wedding guests. This wont happen until Season 4 imo, S4 will be Tyion being hunted down by Cersei with the end of season 4 hanging cersei thrown away in that church dungeon The Sisters Something.
03:28pm 27/03/13 Permalink
Creepy
USA
2079 posts
Which would make some form of sense as a cliffhanger, as ASoS is spread over Seasons 3 and 4.
03:29pm 27/03/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1945 posts
Slightly off topic here.

I only ask this because I am not very well read. Have any of you encountered another other book series that kicked you in the guts as much as A song of ice and fire? I don't think I have ever come across anything where so many of the characters you grow to love get killed so regularly.


The Count of Monte Christo - dude that book is unbelievable, the movies are like 10% of what goes on in the book and they totally did happy hollywood shine on the movies, it's so much darker in the book. I remember being as, if not more, shocked about some of the shit that went down.

Also Watership Down.
10:04pm 27/03/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16826 posts
The Count of Monte Christo - dude that book is unbelievable, the movies are like 10% of what goes on in the book and they totally did happy hollywood shine on the movies, it's so much darker in the book. I remember being as, if not more, shocked about some of the shit that went down.


the jim caviezel movie is still awesome though.
10:49pm 27/03/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1948 posts
Yeah that's my favorite version, Guy Pearce rocks. You should read the book if you haven't, and prepare to have your mind hole blown.
09:05am 28/03/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4055 posts
I recall watching Watership down when I was about 8 or 9 years old in the late 70's. I am pretty sure it was about the first feature length animated movie I had ever seen and it made me cry, oh how humiliating for a boy of that age lol.
09:27am 28/03/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13700 posts
Watership Down is pretty mental, watched it again recently.
09:45am 28/03/13 Permalink
Reverend Evil™
Wynnum, Queensland
21279 posts
Is anybody up for some Game of Thrones larping? I've got my Daenerys costume ready. Just need to dye my hair and I'm set.

game.jpg
10:56am 28/03/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
608 posts
Eh, I'd probably still hit it.
11:09am 28/03/13 Permalink
JakeG
Thailand
1176 posts
according to the wiki, cat's resurrection takes place in a storm of swords, 3 days after the red wedding.


Yep @ the end of storm of swords there is a scene, someone ( can't remember who), is brought to Catelyn to be judged / killed. "I thought you were dead" is in there somewhere.
11:14am 28/03/13 Permalink
pARODY
Brisbane, Queensland
1145 posts
Brienne is brought before Cat.
12:25pm 28/03/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20758 posts
Thats not in Storm of Swords though

Actually, fuck, I dunno anymore, cos the storm of swords I read was split into two books so maybe I just think it happened in a later book. But I didn't think that bit where Brienee is brought before here was in storm of swords, I thought it was in feast for crows. Cos then Brienne gets hung afterwards at the end and her chapter ends on that cliffhanger, and that was in Feast for Crows.
12:59pm 28/03/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20760 posts
Yeah ok, after reading the wiki, I got nfi anymore, I guess it confused me being split into two books cos each one had its own epilogue :S

It says the actual epilogue is the brotherhood hanging the freys who were at the wedding while a ressurected Catelyn watches, and I barely even remember that scene. I guess I need to re-read them.
01:07pm 28/03/13 Permalink
l3wd_5c0ff
Brisbane, Queensland
2494 posts
wow you real men are mad cainers :(

gamin of thongs = twilight for men.
01:36pm 28/03/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13705 posts
wow you real men are mad cainers :(

gamin of thongs = twilight for men.

You are bad at everything, you should probably die.
01:51pm 28/03/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5837 posts
Argh Rev... My eyes! The goggles do nothing!
02:03pm 28/03/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
610 posts
Yeah ok, after reading the wiki, I got nfi anymore, I guess it confused me being split into two books cos each one had its own epilogue :SIt says the actual epilogue is the brotherhood hanging the freys who were at the wedding while a ressurected Catelyn watches, and I barely even remember that scene. I guess I need to re-read them.


Aye, one of the older Frey's is sent with tribute to ransom a "captured" frey, but instead, they grab him and hang him.

It's also where you learn Cat has been ressed up, was kind of fucked up iirc lol.
03:08pm 28/03/13 Permalink
l3wd_5c0ff
Brisbane, Queensland
2495 posts
You are bad at everything, you should probably die.


I will up the ante: You should almost certainly die.
He who lives in Cairns, fails. What a shit hole.



The Count of Monte Christo - dude that book is unbelievable, the movies are like 10% of what goes on in the book and they totally did happy hollywood shine on the movies, it's so much darker in the book. I remember being as, if not more, shocked about some of the shit that went down.


The book drags out a classic revenge tale to perfection. Instead of killing anyone and everyone close to Mondego, the Count of Monte Cristo carefully turns the screws until he has taken everything from the man who once took everything from him. One of the best books Ive ever read.
07:07pm 28/03/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13712 posts

I will up the ante: You should almost certainly die.
He who lives in Cairns, fails. What a shit hole.

Why are you even in here fuckhead?
08:07pm 28/03/13 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
1445 posts
I'mma leave this here...

08:17pm 28/03/13 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
3839 posts
I will up the ante: You should almost certainly die.
He who lives in Cairns, fails. What a shit hole..


cairns is nice, lots of people I know in RL life in cairns, (sure most of them are raging queens, but hey, they are good people)

have you been to cairns at all??, the weather for the most part is pretty good, and even tho the last time I was there was for yasi clean up, I still had a ball (when not weilding a chainsaw) the people are great, the place is great
08:22pm 28/03/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1949 posts
@Taipan/Hoggy I don't want to be a broken MP3, but you guys should read the book. I read the book first then watched the movie and couldn't believe how cut-down and generally less depressing/shocking the movie was! The book is hardcore and even quite philosophical, it's a great read. Not too long either.
08:43pm 28/03/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13713 posts
@Taipan/Hoggy I don't want to be a broken MP3, but you guys should read the book

wat
08:46pm 28/03/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8550 posts
Cairns is awesome. Lots of hot back packers, particularly German hotties.
08:46pm 28/03/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5838 posts
GIS German hotties surprisingly relevant

Sibel Kekilli
08:59pm 28/03/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1950 posts
Watership Down, read the book.

I've been to Cairns, it's nice enough and is indeed full of hottie backpackers!
09:47pm 28/03/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4057 posts
HAHAHA Ivy

Winter had been coming for 16 fucking years ....lol classic
09:27am 29/03/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
614 posts
GIS German hotties surprisingly relevantSibel Kekilli


In before SHE'S DEAD AND FAKING IT THE WHOLE TIME!
11:46am 29/03/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20761 posts
Tyrion gotta choke a bitch
01:20pm 29/03/13 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
934 posts
Haha am I the only one who thought that all went really sour really quickly?

I think theres more text devoted to tyrion thinking about the thrum crossbow sound than the whole scene in which it happened.
01:29pm 29/03/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
616 posts
Haha am I the only one who thought that all went really sour really quickly? I think theres more text devoted to tyrion thinking about the thrum crossbow sound than the whole scene in which it happened.


Well, shit always escalates quickly.

That'd be why the scene where it all went down was so short, compared to after, when he has actual time to think about it.

Happens that way IRL too. I mean, when I choked a bitch hooker and shot MY dad with a crossbow, it was over in seconds. But I still chuckle about it to this day.
02:32pm 29/03/13 Permalink
l3wd_5c0ff
Brisbane, Queensland
2496 posts
The Homelands Program sounds like an honourable operation. This program supposedly helps itinerant Aboriginal and Island people to return to their home communities on the Cape. In the great tradition of police giving themselves awards, this program too wins obscure awards for its proponents.

Unfortunately, the Homelands Program has a more sinister purpose. Cairns police use it as an ethnic cleansing program to rid the Cairns CBD of all black people whether they live in Bungalow or Bamaga. Why?


Just another reason why ill never GO BACK to Cairns.
See, the people are nice, and there is a lot of german hotties, doesnt really sell a place to live for me.
A municipal entity that runs all its indigenous people out of town in the name of tourism is not a place i would want to live.

Must be great for real men :(
09:11am 30/03/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4059 posts
^^ Who the fuck are you and why are you even here?
10:27am 30/03/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2860 posts
I think he's insane.
10:40am 30/03/13 Permalink
taggs
6109 posts
Lewd is qgl's resident hipster faggot who has a compulsive need to enter threads on topics he doesn't like and proceed to tell everyone how lame and mainstream it is. He usually does this in music threads which his thoroughly defective personality sees as some sort of pathetic pissing competition.

Ignore him and he'll fuck off eventually.
11:35am 30/03/13 Permalink
Ha
109 posts
i like the way he has the word 'scoff' in l3375p33k. i can feel the unwarranted self satisfaction through the internet.
11:44am 30/03/13 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
935 posts
Back on subject, is anyone disappointed by the new season 3 first ep pretty much entirely around when selmy saves danerys from the assasin?

If the sorrowful men aren't going to make an appearance in the TV show, I'm going to have to choke a bitch.

Also did he have to be instantly recognised? And where the fuck is the massive enuch?
06:41pm 01/04/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1315 posts
Back on subject, is anyone disappointed by the new season 3 first ep pretty much entirely around when selmy saves danerys from the assasin? If the sorrowful men aren't going to make an appearance in the TV show, I'm going to have to choke a bitch.Also did he have to be instantly recognised? And where the fuck is the massive enuch?


It would of been hard to not announce who is is straight away, unlike the books people will recognize him on the television, first episode is just warming up.
07:14pm 01/04/13 Permalink
pARODY
Brisbane, Queensland
1146 posts
Large Bulwas was missed. Hopefully he comes in later.
09:14pm 01/04/13 Permalink
Ha
110 posts
if he doesn't shit in front of an army after killing their champion then that entire storyline can get fucked.
09:37pm 01/04/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13734 posts
Yeh I'm a bit dubious about the meeting with Selmy. I'm all for trimming the daenarys storyline but where is Belwas? Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't she melt down at selmy for keeping his identity a secret?
11:24pm 01/04/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2861 posts
Think revealing Selmy like that is really the only way to do it on screen. You can't direct an episode in a single persons perspective or hide the fact Selmy is Selmy. Though a bit more of a build up besides some 5 min part would have been nice.
11:28pm 01/04/13 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
8171 posts
Yeh I'm a bit dubious about the meeting with Selmy. I'm all for trimming the daenarys storyline but where is Belwas? Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't she melt down at selmy for keeping his identity a secret?

There's no way they were going to be able to keep it a secret. It's easy enough to do in the books, because it's all told through PoV characters, but I wasn't expecting them to hide it in the show.

Agreed about Strong Belwas though. I was pretty disappointed that he was missing. :(
11:36pm 01/04/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20766 posts
So I googled "Large Bulwas" cos I didn't think that was his name but I couldn't remember his actual name, and google searched for "Large Vulvas" instead :(
12:16am 02/04/13 Permalink
Nukleuz
Perth, Western Australia
287 posts
Came into this thread thinking of a compilation of all the Game of Thrones spoot. Leaving disappointed.
08:34am 02/04/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13735 posts
I understand why they did it, just concerned about the implication to future plot lines.

If they really wanted to it could have been a secret from Dany and have the audience in on it after all.

Also heh 'game of conversations'. Plenty of action on the way in Astapor, looking forward to seeing the look on that smug cunts face when Dany stabs him in the back lol, should be some good carnage too.
09:23am 02/04/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20768 posts
I was a bit disappointed they changed the training of the unsullied too, or at least, left out the bit about them looking after a puppy and killing it. That to me for some reason seemed much more brutal than the bit about killing a baby.
11:27am 02/04/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13736 posts
Killing puppies probably too harsh for TV? (sort of serious here)
11:29am 02/04/13 Permalink
Damo
Brisbane, Queensland
6449 posts
It's US tv so it's ok to kill babies and humans but not puppies.
11:34am 02/04/13 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
8172 posts
Yeah, the puppy killing always struck me as worse for some reason. Didn't they actually raise the puppies and form bonds with them before they have to kill them? Maybe that's why.
11:11pm 03/04/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
628 posts
Yeah, the puppy killing always struck me as worse for some reason. Didn't they actually raise the puppies and form bonds with them before they have to kill them? Maybe that's why.


I'd say probably because the whole "they kill a baby" pointed out the fact that they went through some fucked up training, without needing to go any further. Any extra talking in that scene would have just been time wasting, imo, as the baby killing pretty much already set the whole "they're pretty fucking brutal" idea into most viewers heads.

::EDIT:: Though maybe down the track, in passing, they will discuss the whole puppy bit as filler, maybe while Daeny is coming to grips with the whole ordeal. Maybe they will use it as a plot device to introduce the general of the unsullied (Grey Worm) to the audience?
12:59am 04/04/13 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
1493 posts
They could've had Selmy wear a pair of dark sunglasses, people wouldn't have noticed anything.
01:42am 04/04/13 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
941 posts
Can't wait for book 6?

If you are craving more westerosi axn you can read the tales of dunk and egg. They're short and dunk is annoying but it has targaryans because it's set 100 years before Got.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tales_of_Dunk_and_Egg
07:33am 04/04/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2865 posts
Guess a lot of us can breath a sigh of relief with the introduction of the Reeds as well as the bannerless men. yayer.


Quite disappointed how they played out the sword fight between jamie and shehulk. In the book it was really epic and it showed off why Jamie was the best in the land, instead it was a bit of a fizz. shame, it could have been so good
10:02pm 08/04/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20779 posts
Yeah, bit disappointed in that duel, that was one of the things I was really looking forward to and it had barely got started before it ended
10:12pm 08/04/13 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
1501 posts
Seems like they're really struggling to fit everything in. It jumps around from plot to plot and seems to miss a lot, kinda reminds me of LotR.

That scene with Margaery and Joff was fucking hilarious. I don't know if thats a good thing.
10:24pm 08/04/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2866 posts
That scene i found alright, it was mainly to point out that she just figured joff out in the sense she knows what turns him on which in a very short scene tells a lot about the whole relationship.
10:33pm 08/04/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20780 posts
I did love Jaimie Lannister's bit where he was talking about Renly though, and the 'shame the iron throne wasn't made out of cocks' comment
01:03am 09/04/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
650 posts
I did love Jaimie Lannister's bit where he was talking about Renly though, and the 'shame the iron throne wasn't made out of cocks' comment


Aye, I lost my shit at that comment. So unexpected and amazing :D
04:53am 09/04/13 Permalink
Saint
Cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
3264 posts
Yeah, the duel was a bit weak. I'm not minding this season so far even though people in their usual manner are whinging not much is happening. It seems to be fitting a lot more in and following the book a bit more now, a lot of the plot points are almost at the good bits now for stuff to happen.
06:43am 09/04/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1321 posts
+1 Throne of cocks comment

-1 for the TV show ruining the 'Reek' storyline, I enjoyed knowing that Theon was dead/missing until you find out he is Reek which they now ruined since you see him being tortured in some scenes.

Also could Joffery be killed as a cliff hanger at the end of the season? seems to be moving fast on that plot line.

I also forgot about Ayra and the Hound scenes, shits about to get epic!
07:36am 09/04/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2868 posts
I'm honestly surprised there aren't super spoilers all over the internet, i mean.. you could spoil so much of GoT in a few words, I was thinking cunts would do it in their DOTA name haha
04:01pm 09/04/13 Permalink
Pirroh
Melbourne, Victoria
751 posts
Good episode today.
07:17pm 15/04/13 Permalink
pARODY
Brisbane, Queensland
1149 posts

I have to HAND it to them for tonight's episode. Very cool.
07:22pm 15/04/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5897 posts
Ouchies.
11:41pm 15/04/13 Permalink
Creepy
USA
2113 posts
Just what are they doing with Theon?? Looks like Ramsay Snow is now in the mix..
12:04am 16/04/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2880 posts
I didn't quite get what was going on. Who's the guy with the bow and arrow that saved Theon?
12:21am 16/04/13 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
1530 posts
Next week is looking promising. The Dani storyline is picking up!
01:03am 16/04/13 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7282 posts
holy shit the end of that episode was amaze
the credits music out of nowhere really fucking got me
01:54am 16/04/13 Permalink
Ha
131 posts
i dislike the way they're fucking with theon's story. it would have been much better to just forget about him and BAM, gimp.
06:04am 16/04/13 Permalink
Saint
Cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
3265 posts
Yeah what the hell was with the credits music? Seemed very out of place for Game of Thrones
06:58am 16/04/13 Permalink
Scooter
Brisbane, Queensland
6233 posts
720p didn't have the credit music starting early during the knife to the eye scene.
07:28am 16/04/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13774 posts
Oh did the funky credit music roll when knife was to eye in SD version? That would have been wack lol.

Great ep, wife hasn't read the books and her reaction at the end was hilarious. The music after they chopped his hand off was awesome.

I have NFI what's going on with Theon. Does this mean no Theon Reek or something? Isn't he supposed to be Ramsay's prisoner until well after the red wedding? My memory of this shit isn't 100% but wtf is going on there?

Next ep should be Daenerys acquiring the Unsullied maybe, should be some epic carnage :)

And LOL at the fucking sooks not wanting people who know about the books in their thread. WHERE IS YOUR THREAD NOW?
08:42am 16/04/13 Permalink
Creepy
USA
2114 posts
So apparently the initial SD linux ISO had an audio glitch, which set people off on the whole "wtf is with that music?!?!"

It's a cover of the song sung earlier in the episode by Brienne's and Jamie's captors.
08:45am 16/04/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5898 posts
lol @ Blackfish shoving Lord Edmure. You had your chance, now get out of the gods damn way!

WHERE IS YOUR THREAD NOW?

Haha, now now.
09:12am 16/04/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2882 posts
Was it just me but I didnt imagine lord demure to be such a young little runt.
09:18am 16/04/13 Permalink
Saint
Cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
3266 posts
Oh yeah, Brutus from Rome!
09:48am 16/04/13 Permalink
Creepy
USA
2115 posts
It was weird, he showed up in Doctor Who the day before!
09:49am 16/04/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1980 posts
So, did the funky credits music roll in just before his hand was chopped for everyone else, or afterwards when the credits started? As it had a good 30 more seconds before he did the chopping.

Was that Ramsay Snow (The bastard) that rescued Theon? Doesn't make sense?

The outcry when the red wedding happens is going to be immense.
10:46pm 16/04/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20788 posts
I assumed thats Ramsay, and hes just pretending to help Theon and free him just to fuck with him and break him down, cos thats the sort of cunt he is. I don't think you ever get to see it in the books, but they talk about how one of his favourite things to do is let prisoners go and let them think they've escaped, then hunt them down, so I assumed it was playing off that.
11:00pm 16/04/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
678 posts
So apparently the initial SD linux ISO had an audio glitch, which set people off on the whole "wtf is with that music?!?!"It's a cover of the song sung earlier in the episode by Brienne's and Jamie's captors.


LOL Yeah, I was like "WTF IS THIS BULLSHIT!?"

I mean, I got the song was a cover, but it was right over the last minute of dialogue before Jaime lost his mistress (aka Righty).
11:47pm 16/04/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20789 posts
More disappointing is it appears they've got rid of Vargo Hoat and the Brave Companions. I thought for a bit that the character Noah Taylor is playing was maybe Vargo Hoat, but a look at Imdb tells me otherwise, hes just some character they made up for the show I think
11:52pm 16/04/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4071 posts
That cant be right though can it khel? Since he is the guy that cut off Jamies sword hand and that is a fairly huge event in Janies story line. I couldnt imagine them having just some random doing it?
01:59am 17/04/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4072 posts
That cant be right though can it khel? Since he is the guy that cut off Jamies sword hand and that is a fairly huge event in Janies story line. I could imagine them having just some random doing it?
02:01am 17/04/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20790 posts
Yeah, thats what I would have thought too, but according to Imdb he is a character called Locke, and I don't remember any Locke in the books
03:53am 17/04/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
680 posts
That cant be right though can it khel? Since he is the guy that cut off Jamies sword hand and that is a fairly huge event in Janies story line. I could imagine them having just some random doing it?


When you think about it though, they're only there for the shenanigans at harrenhal and taking his hand off.

It'd take a bunch more time to explain the group of mercs than to just say "the enemy capped him and took his hand because of hatred and Jamie being a bit of a cunt". Cuts out a bunch of extra story that, while it will be missed, still wasn't important to the story as a whole beyond the hand bit.

It's the sort of thing that can be done easily with an existing enemy instead of having to introduce yet more to what some say is already a bloated cast.
04:33am 17/04/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4073 posts
When you put it like that it makes some sense if the guy that gave jamie the chop doesnt play to big of a part in the rest of the story i guess. I have read that the books do get kind out of hand with the number of characters that even the author has a hard time keeping up with them all. So trimming things down a little might make the tv a bit more managable.

As long as they dont take bites out of core shit then i am ok with it.
04:46am 17/04/13 Permalink
Ha
132 posts
they didn't need to do a 'hey kids, it's vargo hoat!' segment, they could have just had him with a lisp and make one of the rapists dress in motley like a creepy ass jester and you've done tribute to the book for the novel fans and nobody else knows any different.
06:19am 17/04/13 Permalink
mission
Brisbane, Queensland
8844 posts
So, did the funky credits music roll in just before his hand was chopped for everyone else


No, I saw choppy chop.
07:16am 17/04/13 Permalink
Scooter
Brisbane, Queensland
6234 posts
In the SD version the credit music started around about the time where the knife was in the eye. So you saw the Chop Chop, but didn't hear anything that was said.
08:45am 17/04/13 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
949 posts
09:14am 17/04/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
682 posts
In the SD version the credit music started around about the time where the knife was in the eye. So you saw the Chop Chop, but didn't hear anything that was said.


They put out a PROPER release shortly after where the music was where it should have been.

If you search for it, just make sure it has 'PROPER' in the tag and have a quick squiz at the comments.

When you put it like that it makes some sense if the guy that gave jamie the chop doesnt play to big of a part in the rest of the story i guess. I have read that the books do get kind out of hand with the number of characters that even the author has a hard time keeping up with them all. So trimming things down a little might make the tv a bit more managable.As long as they dont take bites out of core shit then i am ok with it.


The amount of characters and just actual stuff to pull from makes doing 10 hour seasons difficult, so yeah, they've done a lot of trimming on the fluff.

Pretty sure everything gets "OK'd" by GRRM himself, so I wouldn't get too worried about it deviating from the books too much.

It's just stuff like Bran learning about his powers was trimmed way down and done later than in the books, because really, the days spent with the other kids learning about wargs and such in Winterfell was easily condensed down to a few minutes in video.

Also, they stuck in the whole Arya being a drink bearer to make Tywin Lannister seem a little bit human (I'd guess anyway) but it wasn't in the books. They snipped the whole Harrenhal / Arya as the "ghost of Garrenhal" and freeing of the northern prisoners because, again, that whole bit isn't really important to the whole overall story.

I mean, it was very important for the growth of Arya's character and getting to know Gendry and Hot Pie (also I'm kind of annoyed that they didn't have her cut the throat of the guard to escape) but overall I suppose it really isn't needed to progress her story.
10:41am 17/04/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4075 posts
Good response mate thanks for that.
11:09am 17/04/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1332 posts
I assumed thats Ramsay, and hes just pretending to help Theon and free him just to fuck with him and break him down, cos thats the sort of cunt he is. I don't think you ever get to see it in the books, but they talk about how one of his favourite things to do is let prisoners go and let them think they've escaped, then hunt them down, so I assumed it was playing off that.


Yeah I agree took me awhile to figure that one out but you hit it on the head.
03:55pm 17/04/13 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
7130 posts
More disappointing is it appears they've got rid of Vargo Hoat and the Brave Companions. I thought for a bit that the character Noah Taylor is playing was maybe Vargo Hoat, but a look at Imdb tells me otherwise, hes just some character they made up for the show I think

yeh that sucks. i thought noah taylors character was hoat as well. all of the house bolton stuff is changed... roose isn't a whispering freak, ramsay didn't start off as reek, etc.. oh wells it's still pretty awesome :)
04:13pm 17/04/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20793 posts
Yeah, I'm hoping now that Roose Bolton is at Harrenhal and we'll (assumedly) have scenes at Harrenhal with him when Jaime gets there, they might use the opportunity to bring some of Bolton's creepyness back. I'm secretly hoping for a leeching.
05:28pm 17/04/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16893 posts
superhoodie traveled too far back in time!
05:44pm 17/04/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1981 posts
But isn't Vargo doing the chopping important, as later on Bolton states he never ordered it and wouldn't of done it, and then free's Jamie to return to Kings Landing, Bolton then also conspires with Tywin to commit the red wedding. If it's one of Bolton's men who did the chopping, it's a bit different, though I suppose not that big a deal.
07:41pm 17/04/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
684 posts
But isn't Vargo doing the chopping important, as later on Bolton states he never ordered it and wouldn't of done it, and then free's Jamie to return to Kings Landing, Bolton then also conspires with Tywin to commit the red wedding. If it's one of Bolton's men who did the chopping, it's a bit different, though I suppose not that big a deal.


Even if it was his man who did it, doesn't mean he ordered it. He could "prove" he didn't order it by arresting the guys who did it later on to show that he was disobeyed etc.

I don't think they'll have any issue with sorting all that out. They've done a pretty good job of trimming the fat so far while keeping fairly true to the books.
09:44pm 17/04/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4089 posts
Well I don't think anyone here was under any illusions about little Ms Stormborn never following through with handing over one of her dragons. It was nice to see them fry something and it gave us a tiny glimpse into just how powerfull they can be even at such a small size.

I enjoyed the episode and with any luck things are going to steadily build from here.
12:01pm 22/04/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2890 posts
Waiting for my nzb... carnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
12:28pm 22/04/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16916 posts
It was nice to see them fry something and it gave us a tiny glimpse into just how powerfull they can be even at such a small size.


they burnt to death that witch guy last season.
12:36pm 22/04/13 Permalink
Creepy
USA
2122 posts
Damn you Taipan and your earlier US timezone.. :)
12:40pm 22/04/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4090 posts
they burnt to death that witch guy last season.


Yeah but that was three of them, this time its just one and for the briefest of moments you see it sweep one of the city walls. Now considering it isn't much bigger than an average dog it pumps out some significant damage. I have to wonder if we will ever see them get to the size of a bus?

Creepy I thought you were in the north east? I am on Chicago time here which I think is considered central.
12:45pm 22/04/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16917 posts
Yeah but that was three of them, this time its just one and for the briefest of moments you see it sweep one of the city walls. Now considering it isn't much bigger than an average dog it pumps out some significant damage. I have to wonder if we will ever see them get to the size of a bus?


cool, i look forward to seeing it.
12:54pm 22/04/13 Permalink
Creepy
USA
2123 posts
Creepy I thought you were in the north east? I am on Chicago time here which I think is considered central.

Left coast. Kickin it Nor Cal style.
12:57pm 22/04/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4091 posts
ahh ok so 2 hours behind us which means as I post this GOT should be starting ... well acually 6 minutes in now :)
01:04pm 22/04/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20797 posts
I have to wonder if we will ever see them get to the size of a bus?


Yeah, it sounds like they're pretty big in the fifth book, big enough to ride and eat whole cows and stuff anyway
01:23pm 22/04/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5921 posts
The stone walls of Harrenhal didn't melt because it was a hot day. :)
01:49pm 22/04/13 Permalink
Creepy
USA
2124 posts
Cool story. NeedsHas Dragons. :D
02:05pm 22/04/13 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
7133 posts
kick arse episode >.x
05:40pm 22/04/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16921 posts
that ending was badass.
06:45pm 22/04/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
9059 posts
I still have yet to actually watch this TV show and I feel really bad that I haven't. I'm convinced that I should read the books first, but I purchased the first one on Google store and just could not get into it, the writing was just really heavy compared to say Lord of the Rings. So, should I just watch the TV show or is it still recommended to read the books first?
06:56pm 22/04/13 Permalink
Pirroh
Melbourne, Victoria
754 posts
Just watch the show the books aren't really necessary. I watched the first two season without having read them and it was fine.
08:32pm 22/04/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
704 posts
I still have yet to actually watch this TV show and I feel really bad that I haven't. I'm convinced that I should read the books first, but I purchased the first one on Google store and just could not get into it, the writing was just really heavy compared to say Lord of the Rings. So, should I just watch the TV show or is it still recommended to read the books first?


I watched the first 2 seasons before reading through to book 5 (where I stopped).

I think it helps cut through the "heavy" reading with being able to put faces to some names which free's your brain up a bit for remembering all the other damn characters lol.

But once you get in and start getting excited about it, it's just as easy a read as a goosebumps book, just with a million characters.

I read the first 4 books in about a week and a half, couldn't get enough.

::Edit:: Though I suppose I could be biased re the difficulty of the read, as I would consider myself more lettered than the average Australian.
08:55pm 22/04/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2892 posts
Was hoping the Worm would show up this episode :(

also imagine the looks on peoples faces when the Lord Commander died so unceremoniously!
09:08pm 22/04/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1989 posts
Great episode!

Looks like they're doing the whole Theon/Reek thing properly! What a gut punch that was!

So much even crazier shit to come!
07:16am 23/04/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4094 posts
I know Theon pulled a real dick move and all but i really cant help but feel bad for him. Even before all this lastest crap i was feeling some pitty for him. Btw did any of you notice when they first had him strung up he looked like he had put on a bit of beef during their down time between seasons. I was thinking to myself .... how the hell do you get toss into a dungeon and tortured and manage to put on weight lol.
07:21am 23/04/13 Permalink
IncrEdible_vEgetable
Brisbane, Queensland
2300 posts
how the hell do you get toss into a dungeon and tortured and manage to put on weight lol.


Bloating from water boarding?

In other news, good to see Daenerys finally grew a pair, stopped whining about being the mother of dragons and started acting like the motherfucking mother of dragons. As far as plot 'twists' go it was about as see through as grandma's undies, but it's exciting nonetheless and definitely feels like girlfriend is about to get her Unsullied on and fuck shit up.

Prediction: Daenerys takes her nippleless army and lays waste to the Lannisters and all opposing forces south of The Wall. Then she hooks up with Rob Stark and they have a threeway with that nurse and eat grapes while they watch the Unsullied go at it with the White Walkers.

PS HRTB (Haven't read the books)
08:54am 23/04/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4095 posts
Rob starks corpse? Good luck with that.

I think the moment that pretty much sums up the feel of this show for me happened lastnight when the honourable and pretty decent bloke the lord commanded copped it in the back from a lowlife scumbag. It pretty much shows that even the good people meet their end at the hands of less worthy people
09:06am 23/04/13 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
7134 posts
Prediction: Daenerys takes her nippleless army and lays waste to the Lannisters and all opposing forces south of The Wall. Then she hooks up with Rob Stark and they have a threeway with that nurse and eat grapes while they watch the Unsullied go at it with the White Walkers.

lols :D

i kinda want to find out more info on what happened with raegar targarean, brandon stark, lyanna stark & robert baratheon. i know you get the gist of what happens but i want the details! coz raegar is always described as 'not crazy' like his father so wtf happened that it all went so bad?
09:09am 23/04/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4096 posts
I assume that he although being a great man had little choice but to fight for his mad father the king. My understnding is that when Neds dad and older brother were burned alive by the king that kicked off the civil war. So Danis older brother for all that was good about him was doomed because he simply had a prick for a dad.
09:14am 23/04/13 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
3039 posts
it was about as see through as grandma's undies
If that's a saying, which would be weird enough, I don't think you are using it right. Depends are not see through.

I've only read the first book but from what I understand a big reason for the war was Raegar kidnapping Lyanna Stark for his own lust. Dunno if that's been revealed in later books but I'm pretty sure Lyanna had a kid to Raegar and my number 1 suspect at the moment is John Snow. The whole "Promise me Ned" flash backs kind of make me think that.
10:34am 23/04/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2893 posts
Lets just say she isn't the last tagarian (sp)

Thanks for reminding me about that part of the story, I totally forgot about him! Season... 5? Should be good lol.
10:43am 23/04/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5923 posts
As far as plot 'twists' go it was about as see through as grandma's undies

Haha yeah, for a guy wealthy enough to own 8000 slaves Kraznys was dumber than a bag of rocks and probably should have seen it coming from the mother of dragons.
10:47am 23/04/13 Permalink
IncrEdible_vEgetable
Brisbane, Queensland
2301 posts
Bart: She'll see through me like Grandma's underpants!


http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Lisa_the_Beauty_Queen/Quotes

I wish Daenerys' undies were see through (in a sheer, sexy lingerie type way as opposed to a worn out, stretched and threadbare way referenced in my earlier observation).

Continue.
11:16am 23/04/13 Permalink
Tiny
Brisbane, Queensland
3367 posts
I've only read the first book but from what I understand a big reason for the war was Raegar kidnapping Lyanna Stark for his own lust. Dunno if that's been revealed in later books but I'm pretty sure Lyanna had a kid to Raegar and my number 1 suspect at the moment is John Snow. The whole "Promise me Ned" flash backs kind of make me think that.


This is a popular theory which explains a lot of little things throughout the books. Also the actual story provided about john snows mother is lackluster at best. Also, NED being the honourable man he is. You often doubt he would lie with another woman in the first place. I cant wait for the next book, as long as George RR Martin doesn't die from a heart attack first.
11:25am 23/04/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4097 posts
If that's a saying, which would be weird enough, I don't think you are using it right. Depends are not see through.I've only read the first book but from what I understand a big reason for the war was Raegar kidnapping Lyanna Stark for his own lust. Dunno if that's been revealed in later books but I'm pretty sure Lyanna had a kid to Raegar and my number 1 suspect at the moment is John Snow. The whole "Promise me Ned" flash backs kind of make me think that.



Man if you are right that would be frigging huge. It's a great idea however the people it would have the greatest effect on are either dead or likely to be dead by the time it comes out. It would explain however why Ned never said shit about Jons mother not even Robert knew. It would also explain why Ned would take the hit to his personal honour by claiming Jon as his own in order to protect him.

It does open up an interesting possibility, if and when that information was to come out would Daenerys' become aware of it (not that it would matter if her and Jon never meet) because it makes her his aunt and also makes the old blind dude at catle black Jons great uncle. This could provide a very interesting link between Daenerys' and the Starks which could result in some kick ass outcomes.

Food for thought, thanks deadlyf
11:44am 23/04/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2894 posts
Have you read the last book Taipan? Sadly I don't think Jon Snows story is as epic as that. The targarian mystery i think is already being explained in the last book where it was revealed that the baby that the mountain smashed against the wall was actually some peasants and the spider snuck the real one out and is now a man on the same path as dani but just started from a different part of the world.

There's going to be some huge shitstorm when the 2 collide in the next book (hopefully) as I can't see Dani being someones bitch.
11:50am 23/04/13 Permalink
Monkeez
Sydney, New South Wales
232 posts
Sadly I don't think Jon Snows story is as epic as that.

Sif Jon isn't going to come back in one form or another.
11:54am 23/04/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2895 posts
Oh I have no doubt he's coming back, dont get me wrong, his story is going to be epic but I don't think it'll have anything to do with the Targarians though.
11:55am 23/04/13 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
7135 posts
i am interested in lyanna's consent... ie: did she go with raegar willingly or was she really kidnapped? because we only hear testimony from the winning side (robert & ned) it's always told as a kidnap/rape... but barriston makes out that raegar was honourable... so what's the go!? :) also.. how did she die? these are the things I think about post-episode... :P
12:01pm 23/04/13 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
3040 posts
My theory is she died due to child birth, the only mention of her dying in the first book I think is briefly about her lying in a pool of blood and begging Ned for something (which I think is to protect her child). Nothing about wounds or a killer, I think if someone had killed her it would be known.

Not sure about consent, I think it was mentioned that she had only met Robert Barathean once before everything went down so her feelings for him might not be as strong as his were for her.
01:17pm 23/04/13 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
2063 posts
their sigil is three dragons - so jon snow might b the third targarian
01:17pm 23/04/13 Permalink
Ha
136 posts
jon snow is without a doubt the child of lyanna and raegar. sorry, but it is the spoilers thread.
02:50pm 23/04/13 Permalink
Jim
UK
13264 posts
I think the moment that pretty much sums up the feel of this show for me happened lastnight when the honourable and pretty decent bloke the lord commanded copped it in the back from a lowlife scumbag. It pretty much shows that even the good people meet their end at the hands of less worthy people
what's honourable and decent about standing by and letting some bloke rape his daughters and kill their baby sons in exchange for some of his food?
04:34pm 23/04/13 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7286 posts
still seems to be moving fairly fkn slowly,I thought this season was when shit went off.
seriously hope we're not just waiting for an epic last episode a la battle o blackwater
04:50pm 23/04/13 Permalink
Tiny
Brisbane, Queensland
3368 posts
still seems to be moving fairly fkn slowly,I thought this season was when shit went off.
seriously hope we're not just waiting for an epic last episode a la battle o blackwater


You misunderstand. Even though some big stuff does happen this season, keep in mind this is a 7 series book. Not all the major plot lines and secrets come out in book 3 but things do happen. Stay tuned.
06:20pm 23/04/13 Permalink
IncrEdible_vEgetable
Brisbane, Queensland
2304 posts
still seems to be moving fairly fkn slowly


It's true that some characters arcs move almost incrementally at times, but no one as much as this guy. He's hit the bigtime - scores the final closeup in a cliffhanger ending to one of the most popular shows on TV. Finally he's made it.
Four eps in to s4 and nothing. Nada. Zip. Oh you signed a per episode deal? Time to fire your agent guy.
link
06:28pm 23/04/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1992 posts
You guys need to read Southron Ambitions, about the true cause of Robert's Rebellion: http://towerofthehand.com/blog/2012/01/05-southron-ambitions/index.html
08:04pm 23/04/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2900 posts
Give us the run down!
08:07pm 23/04/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5925 posts
He looks a bit old Veg, he might have died in the off season!
08:30pm 23/04/13 Permalink
IncrEdible_vEgetable
Brisbane, Queensland
2305 posts
He looks a bit old Veg, he might have died in the off season!


Ah, fame late in life is the cruelest of mistresses.
08:41pm 23/04/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20800 posts
He'll show up again soon, Sam has to get his opportunity to kill a white walker yet. Was just talking about this today actually, shouldn't they have already found the cache with the dragonglass knives and stuff in it by now?

Hope the dual between Dondarrion and the Hound is good, cos so far that storyline has been sucking a lot more than I was expecting it to.
10:22pm 23/04/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4099 posts
They found all that stuff under a rock in the last couple of episodes of the second season khel at that place where the first men made there stand.
10:31pm 23/04/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20801 posts
Oh really? Shit, maybe I need to go back and rewatch the second season
11:07pm 23/04/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4100 posts
Yeah Sam and his two mates were digging around up on that big ass mountain when one of them found a flat rock which he flipped over to find a nights watch cloak with a horn and some dragon glass in it. The dragon glass kind of looked like spear heads to me or some kind of edged weapons like old indian arrow heads in desisgn.
12:23am 24/04/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5929 posts
Yeah most likely next episode we'll see white walker(s) and Sam will get his chance to slip the dagger in, so to speak. :P

One thing I was confused about - I don't think the distinction between white walkers & wights is very clear in the show.
The former are a special race of beings with the ability to reincarnate dead animals or people as the latter.
12:26am 24/04/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
707 posts
The dragon glass kind of looked like spear heads to me or some kind of edged weapons like old indian arrow heads in desisgn.


From what I recall, a lot of what was in the cache was arrow heads. Think there were only 2-3 daggers, the rest were just tips.
04:40am 24/04/13 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
35572 posts
im avoiding this thread (as im reading the books, on a kindle), so dunno if this has been poasted or not:

05:09am 24/04/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4101 posts
Yeah could of been mate, if i recall we didnt get that much of a good look at the dragon glass. I think Sam picked out one that was about knife sized.
07:10am 24/04/13 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
7137 posts
lols @ rage of thrones :D
09:06am 24/04/13 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
951 posts
Thought Dany could have yelled drakaris or whatever a bit more like in the books. Other than that pretty good scene.

The zoom outs on the size of the army of unsullied in formation was pretty sweet.
07:18pm 24/04/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1343 posts
im avoiding this thread (as im reading the books, on a kindle), so dunno if this has been poasted or not:


Haha good post that song was awesome and that's how I feel with some people at work who are all talking up Rob Stark is going to cut Jofferys head off bahahahahahah "FUCK OFF"

I read the books on the Kindle too I didn't have an issue.

This thread was created for book readers not TV show so if you are watching the TV show probably best you don't read all the comments.

THIS THREAD IS FULL OF SPOILERS
07:57pm 24/04/13 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
6348 posts
07:50am 26/04/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1994 posts
Cor blimey.. $6m per episode!
07:59am 26/04/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13815 posts
Hahah at please don't pirate our show.

Have been away all week and finaly caught up, epic fucken episode. I knew Dany was gonna get her unsullied this week.

Someone said to me in passing though that there was a significant divergence from the books - I don't see it if it happened? Maybe being trolled?
08:54am 26/04/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
712 posts
Hahah at please don't pirate our show. Have been away all week and finaly caught up, epic fucken episode. I knew Dany was gonna get her unsullied this week.Someone said to me in passing though that there was a significant divergence from the books - I don't see it if it happened? Maybe being trolled?


I guess so, the people who tried to kill her were different and there is Strong Belwas who is no-longer a part of the story in the series.

He could have been talking about that *shrug*

Shit the U.S Ambassador says I better stop downloading Game of Thrones

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/us-ambassador-jeffrey-bleich-pleads-australia-stop-pirating-game-of-thrones/story-e6freon6-1226629446024


If he goes out and buys me a TV and all the shit needed to use these "services" then I might consider it, but personally, I'm not going to do that all for 1 series.

If they offered a per-episode service with good download speeds, I'd have a crack. But again, how many people in Australia can currently download HD video without a care? (Hint: Not many).
11:39am 26/04/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4102 posts
Isnt that exactly what they are doing on itunes for about $30 for the entire season?
11:45am 26/04/13 Permalink
Jim
UK
13266 posts
just out of interest what options do australians have to legally watch game of thrones atm?
12:10pm 26/04/13 Permalink
Monkeez
Sydney, New South Wales
234 posts
Isnt that exactly what they are doing on itunes for about $30 for the entire season?

I didn't even know it was available this way, I thought the only option was Foxtel for Australians. So long as there isn't any DRM I might purchase it this way next season.
12:13pm 26/04/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2915 posts
iTunes one is DRM'ed to the shithausssss
12:19pm 26/04/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5934 posts
Foxtel seems to be the better proposition, airing within hours. Reports are that iTunes is updated a day or two later.
12:25pm 26/04/13 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
3046 posts
I've haven't used bloatTunes since I upgraded to Android and I don't intend to ever use it again.

I've been buying the blurays when they come out so fuck 'em. Blurays are cheaper than buying them digital through Amazon as well which is one of the shit things about the way companies sell digital products. Without taking up any shelf space there is far less incentive to put the items on sale.

Foxtel works out to about $50+ for 4 episodes so fuck that.
12:27pm 26/04/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13816 posts
Looking into it now.

Looks like:

- About $3.50 an ep. Decent.
- iTunes AU get it on Tuesday. A little late given its available for free at the dark side for Monday night viewing and there's fuck all delay for foxtel.
- iTunes DRM by the looks, so you'll need Apple hardware or iTunes to play it (can stream from iTunes on PC to an iPad or AppleTV something connected to a TV I think).

A little weak but not a bad effort. Its worth the $3.50 an ep for sure, but the broadcast delay and DRM is annoying.

Thinking about paying the $30 to support the show and then just dark siding anyway, but I don't want to support a product / model that is shit.
12:29pm 26/04/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5935 posts
Well yeah, if you only get Foxtel for GoT then it's $$ but there's also Mad Men, The Borgias, Spartacus, Veep, The Newsroom & a buttload of movie channels.
12:33pm 26/04/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13817 posts
Well yeah, if you only get Foxtel for GoT then it's $$ but there's also Mad Men, The Borgias, Spartacus, Veep, The Newsroom & a buttload of movie channels.

Yup, but they charge you per TV set top box right? What about mobile devices, can you put your shit onto them?

The other problem is not everyone is in the city. Austar is an expensive pile of shit.
12:36pm 26/04/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5936 posts
It's not the full monthly rate per set top box, it's a reduced rate per box $15-25 per month.

Listen at me, I sound like a bloody foxtel salesman.
Let's balance it out a little: Down with the middle men! I want content delivered over IP and I want to pay the content creator directly, dammit.
01:15pm 26/04/13 Permalink
JakeG
Thailand
1185 posts
Just dropping in to say I have to avoid this thread, only on book 4.

I thought I was a real man but obviously not :(
01:17pm 26/04/13 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
3047 posts
Well yeah, if you only get Foxtel for GoT then it's $$ but there's also Mad Men, The Borgias, Spartacus, Veep, The Newsroom & a buttload of movie channels.
I'm not interested in those TV shows and the movie channels are shit. If I were to get it I would be getting the Internet TV version as I can't get Foxtel in my area but have ADSL 2 and have a Samsung smart TV.

For internet TV you get half the amount of channels for the same price in SD. I'd watch probably 4 things on Foxtel, The Daily Show on the comedy channel, Family Guy, NRL on Foxsports and GoT on Showcase which would cost a whopping $95 a month as it spans all of their shitty packages. If I got it just for GoT it'd end up costing me $150 for the season.

The only benefit of the internet version is that you aren't locked into a 12 month subscription, considering GoT only lasts 3 months it's an even suckier option.
01:38pm 26/04/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5937 posts
Just dropping in to say I have to avoid this thread, only on book 4.I thought I was a real man but obviously not :(

Eh, nothing happens in books 5 & 6 anyway.
If there were real men in this thread we'd be complaining about recent episodes distinct lack of nudity from Ms Targaryen Stormborn, Ms 'Queen-in-waiting' Tyrell & other regulars such as Ygritte & Ros.
01:40pm 26/04/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
713 posts
Isnt that exactly what they are doing on itunes for about $30 for the entire season?


My experiences with iTunes:

- Albums cost $10 more than the US store
- Randomly loses entire albums of music
- Needs to be ripped to other formats to work outside of iTunes, doesn't like to be shared with other devices
- Apple ID keeps losing my password. I'll set it and within a week, it will stop working and I'll need to make another UNIQUE password (I've literally gone through about 50 variations on a password so I can remember it).
- Chances are it'd probably ask me to upgrade iTunes again to support the content, which will make my media keys stop working with it again

I should have prefaced my comment with "If they allow me to buy on a per episode basis and let me watch it when I want, on whatever I want and it's not much more hassle than clicking "download torrent file" and then watching it via streaming".

I trust iTunes about as much as I trust the Iraq government to handle an election.

Well yeah, if you only get Foxtel for GoT then it's $$ but there's also Mad Men, The Borgias, Spartacus, Veep, The Newsroom & a buttload of movie channels.


Yeah, last time I tried foxtel they were offering a $25/month plan (or something like that) over 24 months. The minimum cost even added up to 25 * 24 on the ad and there was no mention of extra costs or anything. Just a low cost per month through the contract for a basic plan + a free extra channel (movie / sport / sci-fi I think).

So after the first month where I paid what I was expecting, I got a $95 bill for the second one. Apparently the guy who sold me the service "misunderstood" what I meant when I asked if it was $25 a month for the entire 24 months. Apparently he signed me up for a $25 for the first month, then $95 from there-on in, which I was never told about, despite asking.

Then when I moved, they wanted another $250 to move the service (despite having everything already installed) and I told them to go fuck themselves. I don't trust foxtel as far as I can throw them.
01:45pm 26/04/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13818 posts
It's not the full monthly rate per set top box, it's a reduced rate per box $15-25 per month.Listen at me, I sound like a bloody foxtel salesman. Let's balance it out a little: Down with the middle men! I want content delivered over IP and I want to pay the content creator directly, dammit.

Heh, don't get me started with Foxtel salesmen. I had a call just now with one, turns out Austar got pacman'd by Foxtel. We're at end of internet contract and I CBF with torrents and shit and can get a cheaper internet bundle without DLing as much media - its starting to look like going legit might work for us for not much extra cost which is pretty cool.

Anyway, so I told him I was just looking to see what they could offer, we went through the whole fucken process and he offers me a pretty good deal, no install fee (already have dish + points anyway) low contract term, 2 HD boxes, low rate etc. I tell him it sounds good and I'll talk it over with the wife.

Foxtel Guy: "Can we conference call her in?"
Hog: "No, she's at work."

"I can only offer you this deal if we close it now on the phone."
"OK, well that's cool, thanks anyway, at least I know what sort of service you can offer."
"Yeh ... well we only offer deals for the first time you call."
"That doesn't sound like a very good business plan."

And then somehow the cunt says to me "I guess I really need to be speaking to your wife, not you?"

* blink, consider hanging up *

"You're telling me that after a 15 minute sales call you can't give me 24 hours to consider the offer?"
"I'd have to make a special arrangement with my supervisor"
"You do that."
"OK great, so I'll catch up with you on Monday, same time?"

Gave him a bit of an ear bash about how the pressure sell won't work on me. The who-wears-the-pants bit was kind of cute. Did he think he could piss me off into signing up or something? Who the fuck signs up to shit like Foxtel contracts without at least discussing it with their SO?
01:47pm 26/04/13 Permalink
TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
5579 posts
Yeah the only problem is you can only buy it from iTunes, I dont mind iTunes at all. However being day late is pretty annoying. Monday night is Game of Thrones night!
01:59pm 26/04/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
715 posts
Heh, don't get me started with Foxtel salesmen. I had a call just now with one, turns out Austar got pacman'd by Foxtel.


Seems that I'm not the only one to get burned by a salesman wanting to make his quota by lying.
02:00pm 26/04/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5938 posts
Poor guy probably just wanted some coffee. Coffee's for closers only. You close or you hit the bricks.
02:06pm 26/04/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13819 posts
Fucken porkchop oversold the package that he was then discounting, must be 2-3 TV packages in it I don't need. I went through the website and found everything I wanted and it came out $10 better a month than his deal (though he had a better first 3 months rate).
02:20pm 26/04/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
716 posts
Fucken porkchop oversold the package that he was then discounting, must be 2-3 TV packages in it I don't need. I went through the website and found everything I wanted and it came out $10 better a month than his deal (though he had a better first 3 months rate).


Yup, any way to bump up the sale so he can close ahead of his minimum.
02:59pm 26/04/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4104 posts
Good episode tonight, nice seeing Cercei get a blast from her old man after looking so smug about his plans for Tyrion and Sansa. It was also interesting to see the red priest do his thing if for no other reason but to see how they were going to do it in the show.

I had no idea Stanis had a daughter, how fucked up is this guy? His missus keeps her stillborn(?) babies in jars and her slightly disfigured daughter locked up.
12:22pm 29/04/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5944 posts
In the Clash of Kings prologue I believe Stannis' daughter is introduced before Stannis himself so you always know he has a daughter and a wife. Not sure how much they affect the story though, Stannis is always seen with his red bitch in the series so anyone could be forgiven for not knowing they exist.

Anyone spending a bit too much time at Dragonstone always seems to go a little batshit insane, it must be the island.
03:09pm 29/04/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
721 posts
In the Clash of Kings prologue I believe Stannis' daughter is introduced before Stannis himself so you always know he has a daughter and a wife. Not sure how much they affect the story though, Stannis is always seen with his red bitch in the series so anyone could be forgiven for not knowing they exist. Anyone spending a bit too much time at Dragonstone always seems to go a little batshit insane, it must be the island.


Pretty sure they only make passing mention of having a wife, but again, no mention of the daughter iirc. (I mean in the series)

I do no that the fact that his wife hasn't delivered him any sons, is sick and disgusts him are all mentioned in that same scene though.

Though again, I don't think the family plays much into the actual story, which is why they glossed over it and only made mention of the wife to justify his lust for a son with Hottie McRederson. That and the fact that she's hot.
03:13pm 29/04/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5945 posts
^ Ah yeah you're right Wirlwind, must have missed it in the dialogue.

& other regulars such as Ygritte

I stand corrected. Patience is a virtue.
08:13pm 29/04/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2928 posts
When Rob went to chop Lord Karstark's head off I was hoping he would butcher it a bit like he did in the book. Shame that :(
09:07pm 29/04/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16938 posts
it was a nice clean kill compared to theon's hack job last season.
10:53pm 29/04/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
724 posts
To anyone wondering, the aquatic brigand inlet for linux distro's doesn't seem to have the latest episode of either this or Vikings (Not a bad show either :P)

Can pick it up from eztv's website... ezlinuxdistro...

Ahh whateverthefuck.
12:27am 30/04/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20811 posts
I don't remember Stannis being so ashamed of his family that he kept them locked in cells, thats a bit of a divergence.

Nice touch though with the song at the end though, since they didn't have the retarded jester guy, but thats the song/nursery rhyme that hes always singing.
01:54am 30/04/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
727 posts
I don't remember Stannis being so ashamed of his family that he kept them locked in cells, thats a bit of a divergence.Nice touch though with the song at the end though, since they didn't have the retarded jester guy, but thats the song/nursery rhyme that hes always singing.


I don't think he kept them in cells (Unless that's something in the latest episode, havn't watched it yet).

From what I remember from the short conversation about the family, the wife was sick and "locked away in a tower" but I don't think she meant literally locked up, but rather in bed / her room a lot of the time.

But it would be an easy way to skip introducing the wife and all of the back-room politics regarding her guards etc.

"Let's make her sick and keep her in the tower and just skip that entire sub-plot"

"Sure, less writing for me!"
02:55am 30/04/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13826 posts
Yeh they're not in cells, just shittier bits of the castle.

I got a chill when rob talks about getting an army from the Freys. Serious shit coming.

Ended up ordering foxtel, gonna try and go legit for a year, see how that works out, see if the iQ recording shit can be a bearable replacement for Linux distros. Worst case the kids will get the regular show and adventure time...
06:40am 30/04/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5946 posts
"I know, I'll behead my main bannerman and cause half my army to desert, but that's OK because the plan is to restock the army by bringing zero leverage to a deal with guy I've pissed off big time since the the last time I saw him. I made a promise to marry his daughter simply to traverse his gods damn bridge, but that's OK because Talisa goes off in bed like a frog in a sock and I had my fingers crossed behind my back."

Rob really is a terrible king...
08:06am 30/04/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1996 posts
Patchface is a total enigma as well.. I swear there's something more to him or they just made the tidbits of his backstory pretty interesting! All that shit about being on the sea floor and his rhymes being a bit prophetic. Can't believe he's been cut!

Edit: Awesome patchface theories: http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/66847-patchface-prophesies/#entry3214031

Dude's the most dangerous player in Westeros!
08:07am 30/04/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13827 posts
"I know, I'll behead my main bannerman and cause half my army to desert, but that's OK because the plan is to restock the army by bringing zero leverage to a deal with guy I've pissed off big time since the the last time I saw him. I made a promise to marry his daughter simply to traverse his gods damn bridge, but that's OK because Talisa goes off in bed like a frog in a sock and I had my fingers crossed behind my back."

Rob really is a terrible king...

Yeh, in the books though the Wedding was an invitation from the Freys to smooth shit over (after conspiring with the Lannisters). His motivations make a lot more sense, but still suffers from the Stark blind spot pretty badly:

- Shit mum, need to cross the bridge! We're men of the North, we totes can't build barges and shit.
- I got this robby lol.
- I HAVE TO MARRY WHAT?!
- OK war going well, Im so tap that ass, we got this anyway. Note to self: make it up to Walder.
- Fuck, you killed the little boys Karstark! OMG I didn't see the betrayal coming!
- Son of my father I'll try to uphold the law above all I guess. Dad would so get this, gotta execute him all by myself. Fuck, necks are tough. Sorry dude!
- Oh shit, yeh the Karstarks all left. OMG I didn't see the betrayal coming!
- Walder wants to make up? OK cool, we're safe with guestright, right? Guys?
- OMG I didn't see the betrayal coming!

Fucking Starks.
08:45am 30/04/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4105 posts
the trouble with the Starks is they are honourable men not politicians. I don't say that to be negative about politicians but a polly would understand that sometimes you have no choice but to play the grey areas even if it goes slight against your high moral standards. Keeping Karstark alive for the purpose of trying to win the war would of been acceptable imho when it comes to compromising my personal values because the greater goal is far more important.

Interestingly one of the guys seen as one of the most unhonourable men in the kingdom Jamie Lanister sacrificed his personal honour for the greater good when he killed the mad king and his pyromancer in order to save the common people of kings landing. So he pretty much sacrificed himself for the greater good which is something usually people would see as being an honourable thing to do. I have never disliked Jamie, sure there are aspects of his personality that aren't to good but I really have to wonder if they are his fault. I find for a guy that can be quite arrogant he is actually more often than not just blunt about the truth.

I guess thats the big draw for me with this show the characters for the most part aren't clear cut. Everyone of the characters to some degree is flawed and it's just perception for the most as to wheather they have any redeeming qualities.
09:35am 30/04/13 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
3054 posts
The big chick has a surprisingly nice ass. That Jamie Lanister revelation was pretty awesome.

Remember all the nerd rage when the wildling chick turned up and all the book nerds were upset about the fact she was pretty?
Fuck all of those guys.
09:52am 30/04/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
728 posts
I guess thats the big draw for me with this show the characters for the most part aren't clear cut. Everyone of the characters to some degree is flawed and it's just perception for the most as to wheather they have any redeeming qualities.


I agree, they even managed to make Tywin look like he's from the same race as the rest of the cast.

He basically comes off like a stone cold asshole in the books, but the scenes with Arya as his cup-wench did rather well at softening his character and helping understand his side of the ordeal.

And even the "heroes" having major faults makes the show that much more believable.
10:16am 30/04/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2929 posts
The bath scene in this episode was really well done in flushing out Jamie's softer side, I was wondering how they were going to do that.

Wonder how they will tell Littlefingers backstory because if anyone remembers, he was basically the mastermind behind EVERYTHING. Funnily, I can't remember what exactly he did but I do remember reading it and coming to the conclusion it's all his fault.
10:54am 30/04/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
730 posts
The bath scene in this episode was really well done in flushing out Jamie's softer side, I was wondering how they were going to do that.Wonder how they will tell Littlefingers backstory because if anyone remembers, he was basically the mastermind behind EVERYTHING. Funnily, I can't remember what exactly he did but I do remember reading it and coming to the conclusion it's all his fault.


They're kind of giving that impression by having him showing up and looking devious in every other scene. Like after the tyrell's agree to leave after the whole ghost baby assassination shit.

Margery says "I don't want to be a queen, I want to be THE queen" and littlefinger grins deviously.

I'm guessing they will go more into it further into the story after he's married / killed off psycho-bitch Lysa Tully. Probably some s-exposition for the slow folk.

There are lots of tip-offs and "ah-hah!" moments) for the acute viewer that are subtle, but there if you look. It's just that sadly a lot of the audience are 15 year olds who are there for tits and be-headings so most of the subtleties go way over their heads (Trust me, I'm having to explain everything to my 16 y/o sis and her friends).
11:16am 30/04/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4106 posts
And even the "heroes" having major faults makes the show that much more believable.


Totally

At some point everyone gets their hands dirty and it's often not pretty just like what you'd expect in the real world. It worries me a little bit though because as much as I like the dirt and the harsh reality that the good guys don't always win I'd flip the fuck out if someone like Little finger ended up winning the game so to speak.
04:28pm 30/04/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
733 posts
snip - I'd flip the fuck out if someone like Little finger ended up winning the game so to speak.


Wouldn't that just be an amazing "Fuck you!" :D

I could imagine it might happen, but I doubt it would last long.

I think in the end, another Targaryen will sit on the throne after Arya ninja-fucks littlefinger off it.

Maybe it'll end up being Jon, that'd kind of also be a "wtf?" moment.
05:45pm 30/04/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20815 posts
He was basically the mastermind behind EVERYTHING. Funnily, I can't remember what exactly he did


He killed Jon Arryn I think, and he sent the assassin to kill Bran? And I can't remember, but I think he might have counselled Joff to execute Ned Stark?
06:56pm 30/04/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2932 posts
That's right, he killed Jon Arryn and so Robert had to call on Ned to be his Hand and the butterfly effects of this basically snowballed into everything we know now.

That motherfucker.
07:06pm 30/04/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
734 posts
He killed Jon Arryn I think, and he sent the assassin to kill Bran? And I can't remember, but I think he might have counselled Joff to execute Ned Stark?


Yeah, they didn't mention the knife in the series too much beyond the whole "Yes, it's mine... I lost it to Tyrion".

In the book you find out somewhere through all of it that he was behind the assassination and so essentially was the one who started the war between the Starks and Lannisters (Forcing Tyrion's capture because they thought he pushed Bran).

As for Jon Arryn, If I recall correctly, it was Lysa, at the whim of Littlefinger, yeah.
07:38pm 30/04/13 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
960 posts
I can't believe they don't use the phrase niggardly on TV. They use it all the time in the books.
08:11pm 30/04/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20816 posts
I'm disappointed they don't use 'craven' more often
09:44pm 30/04/13 Permalink
FraktuRe
Gold Coast, Queensland
4481 posts
I thought joffrey sent assassin to kill bran?
11:45pm 30/04/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5949 posts
Yeah, Littlefinger's knife, lost to Tyrion in a wager, stolen by Joffrey at Winterfell and handed to an assassin to put Bran out of his misery because he overhears King Robert say that would be the kinder thing to do. Tyrion confronts him later at his royal wedding about it IIRC.
12:09am 01/05/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4111 posts
Just watching this weeks episode again and I don't know why I didn't ask this earlier, but what happened to Jamie in the bath did he just pass out? It's not like his lights suddenly got turned out he kind of slowly fell into unconsciousness.
04:50pm 01/05/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20819 posts
I guess he'd lost a lot of blood and been through a lot of shit and his body just finally gave out
05:09pm 01/05/13 Permalink
Ha
143 posts
have you ever been really sick and put into a hot bath with dense, humid air all around?
05:14pm 01/05/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4113 posts
Well yeah a hot shower but I don't think I was quite as fucked up as him. The reason I asked was because my expectation would of been for him to go ass up without so much as a whimper if that was the cause but I guess not. On a side note him and big girl should just say fuck westeros and ride off into the sunset they're perfect for each other lol. Well when they can find a way out of captivity anyway :)
05:20pm 01/05/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1359 posts
So is the wedding between Joff and Margery this season? badadadadada could be a good cliff hanger and set the events up for season 4
04:49pm 02/05/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1360 posts
Not sure if posted already...



The lightsaber video makes the duel more dramatic imo

05:21pm 02/05/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20821 posts
Yeah, I reckon they'll have the wedding and killy Joffrey off at the end, they can't end with the Red Wedding, its too much of a downer, but killing Joff at least will make people happy since hes probably the character everyone wants to die the most :p
05:33pm 02/05/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2938 posts
If they ended on the Red Wedding, everyone would think that was THE ending and the story is completed lol.
05:46pm 02/05/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16947 posts
i think the red wedding will take place within the next couple of eps.
05:49pm 02/05/13 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
1552 posts
Didnt they post a list of episode titles where episode 8 was mysteriously unnamed?

The battle of castle black is book 3, yes/no? If so, they've still got a lot of ground left to cover in the next 5 eps.

edit - never mind, its been named as "Second Sons". If I had to guess, I would say Ep 9 - The Rains of Castamere, would be a likely contender for the red wedding, although that would make for an awfully anti climactic finale.

Finale predictions - Joff dies, Jon becomes Lord Commander, Dani gets her city.

I used to get really pissed whenever they would diverge from the books, but its growing on me. It's much more fun watching the show without being sure what's going to happen next.
06:04pm 02/05/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1361 posts
21 1 "Valar Dohaeris" Daniel Minahan David Benioff & D. B. Weiss March 31, 2013 4.37[30]
22 2 "Dark Wings, Dark Words" Daniel Minahan Vanessa Taylor April 7, 2013 4.27[31]
23 3 "Walk of Punishment" David Benioff David Benioff & D. B. Weiss April 14, 2013 4.72[32]
24 4 "And Now His Watch Is Ended" Alex Graves David Benioff & D. B. Weiss April 21, 2013 4.87[33]
25 5 "Kissed by Fire" Alex Graves Bryan Cogman April 28, 2013 5.35[34]
26 6 "The Climb" Alik Sakharov David Benioff & D. B. Weiss May 5, 2013
27 7 "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" Michelle MacLaren George R. R. Martin May 12, 2013
28 8 "Second Sons" Michelle MacLaren David Benioff & D. B. Weiss May 19, 2013
29 9 "The Rains of Castamere" David Nutter David Benioff & D. B. Weiss June 2, 2013
30 10 "Mhysa" David Nutter David Benioff & D. B. Weiss June 9, 2013

Episode 6 might cover Castle Black battle
06:08pm 02/05/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16948 posts
bugger, 2 week break between ep 8 and 9.
06:12pm 02/05/13 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
1553 posts
fuck! I'm glad you noticed that, I would've been sad to find that out on Gotday (otherwise known as monday)
06:14pm 02/05/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20822 posts
I don't think the castle black battle will be in this season, too much ground to cover isn't there? Cos jon has to climb the wall, then they wander around a bit beyond the wall for a bit, before he betrays them and makes his way back the nights watch, then they're all suspicious of him and think hes a traitor and hes gotta convince them and prepare all the defenses and shit before the battle happens. I can't remember if he becomes lord commander before or after the battle, but still seems like way too much ground to cover. I could see him climbing the wall and then betraying the wildlings and going back to castle black and being arrested as a traitor and having that as his cliffhanger.

Oh and in an interview didn't the producers/writers say this season doesn't have a big battle like last season did anyway?
07:08pm 02/05/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5957 posts
Nah it sped up rather quickly towards the end of season 2 as well. It would have to be episode 6 or at the very least the next one, the other episodes have more going on in them and all the pieces are almost into position for the raid on Castle Black. 'The Climb' refers to wildlings scaling the wall before attacking.

Second Sons would be the royal wedding, Rains of Castamere would be the red wedding and the final episode looks like the attack on Meereen.
08:56pm 02/05/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4137 posts
Khel, in tonights episode Sam set up for the night with that daughter of Crasters that he ran off with and before you know it he reaches inside his cloak and whips out a large .... piece of dragons glass. He informs her he found it on the fist of the first men.

Well 35 minutes in and they have just laid out the first hints of the red wedding, 2 weeks in the show so I imagine within the next 2 episodes.

As each episode goes by I find Margaery Tyrells grandmother to be more and more awesome and tonight is no exception. This old girl is unshakable and sharp as a tack, she made a comment about her grandson being a sword swallower through and through that damn near had me blowing coke out my nose. :)

AH FUCK!! Ros

Ok that little fucker Joffery has got to hurry up and die
11:19am 06/05/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5963 posts
Yeah much respect for Diana Rigg, she's playing the character flawlessly. :D
11:50am 06/05/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4138 posts
Yeah much respect for Diana Rigg, she's playing the character flawlessly. :D



Spot on, she certainly has a way about her and I love the character. She seems to get a read on people very quickly and knows bullshit when she spots it. I'd like to still little finger in a room with her for a few hours and watch how things turn out. We got a good look into his slimy ambitions.


(edit) Ok seeing this before you lot kind of sucks, chop chop and watch it I want to hear what you all have to say.
12:07pm 06/05/13 Permalink
Creepy
USA
2131 posts
I can watch beheadings, but fuck man - finger cuts!!
03:55pm 06/05/13 Permalink
existence
Brisbane, Queensland
7401 posts
decent ep . ramsay bolton is a right cunt haha

its been a while since i read storm of swords... is the varys / little finger story line playing out as it did in the books.. i cant really remember?? in the books was roz even killed? cant remember!

why the fuk was sansa crying at the end? was that a tyrell boat?(with loras on it im assuming??) in the books he becomes a kingsguard for aaages and leads the assault on storms end?
05:11pm 06/05/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4143 posts
The boat had a mocking bird on the sail which is Little Finger sigil. I'll assume that Sansa was crying because Tyrion had just spilt the beans to her reguarding Tywins plans to marry her off to Tyrion. Hard to say though since I would of expected a huge response from Shayne and wasn't she right behind Sansa at the end not looking like she was at all bothered?
05:19pm 06/05/13 Permalink
existence
Brisbane, Queensland
7402 posts
and like.. the whole marriage thing just seems way different to in the book?

in the book i recall sansa liking loras, sansa finding out loras is a poof, then they try to make her marry the cripple dude, then tywin forces tyrion to marry her? dont remember any of this cercei / loras crap?
05:19pm 06/05/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20825 posts
in the books was roz even killed? cant remember!


Haven't seen the ep yet, but Ros was a character made up for the show, she didn't exist in the books
05:45pm 06/05/13 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
970 posts
and like.. the whole marriage thing just seems way different to in the book?

in the book i recall sansa liking loras, sansa finding out loras is a poof, then they try to make her marry the cripple dude, then tywin forces tyrion to marry her? dont remember any of this cercei / loras crap?



Yeah Sansa was going to just fugg off to highgarden iirc. Don't think it was to do with a marriage because in the book Loras is a whitecloak so they can't marry.

Tywin was going to make Cersei marry some old useless cunt, can't remember who but I don't think he was a propper character.
06:17pm 06/05/13 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7289 posts
still seems like they could be moving things along a bit faster. you get a tiny development for a single character and that's it for the episode. theon didnt move, jon snow climbed a wall, sam sat around on his arse, rob and co sat around on their arses, the marriage thing was simply reiterated, ayra yelled at bitch face... zzzz
06:32pm 06/05/13 Permalink
Monkeez
Sydney, New South Wales
238 posts
Theon ain't moving for a long time. I found it quite hard watching the finger flaying, I guess that's normal? I think the actor is playing Ramsay Bolton quite well, the right amount of crazy.

Did Thoros and Milesandre ever meet up in the books? I don't remember that. I suppose they've got her taking Gendry to save introducing Edric Storm. I'm not sure if that means that Gendry isn't going to have a major role in the remaining books if the show is allowed to change his story that much.

Do you think they're going to kill Joffrey off this season? Do you think they'll have time?

12:28am 07/05/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2944 posts
Joff dying will be the season finale imo
12:53am 07/05/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
740 posts
Yeah Sansa was going to just fugg off to highgarden iirc. Don't think it was to do with a marriage because in the book Loras is a whitecloak so they can't marry.Tywin was going to make Cersei marry some old useless cunt, can't remember who but I don't think he was a propper character.


In the book, the marriage was originally proposed between Sansa and another Tyrell whose name escapes me atm.

He was crippled but he was apparently a nice guy and it was more a "let's get her out of the city asap" type deal.

And R.I.P. Ros... Nicest pair o' tits in the north.
03:18am 07/05/13 Permalink
Ha
149 posts
still seems like they could be moving things along a bit faster. you get a tiny development for a single character and that's it for the episode. theon didnt move, jon snow climbed a wall, sam sat around on his arse, rob and co sat around on their arses, the marriage thing was simply reiterated, ayra yelled at bitch face... zzzz


edgy. tell me more about your contrary opinions on things that are really good.
06:17am 07/05/13 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
7142 posts
i wonder if the character torturing theon is gonna be ramsay bolton though?
he tells theon he is a karstark.. son of the dude robb beheaded.. spose he could be lying though ;)
iirc roz was not in the books at all.. she is a collection of different whore characters from the books made into a single character.
my memory of how it goes for sansa in the books was initially she is led to believe she is going to marry loras, just to get her on highgarden's side, then gets promised to the cripple tyrell, but is forced to marry tyrion before joffrey's wedding.
07:36am 07/05/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13866 posts
i wonder if the character torturing theon is gonna be ramsay bolton though?
he tells theon he is a karstark.. son of the dude robb beheaded.. spose he could be lying though ;)

He literally says he's lying about that before a little more torture. Its Ramsay.

A couple of people I know getting a bit zzZZzzz at the last few ep's pace, my brother is all 'lol medieval home and away' and (i fucking shit you not) complaining about boring weddings on the way :D
08:06am 07/05/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1365 posts
I loved the conversation between the Old Tyrell and Tywin, after Theon guesses 'Bolton' is a Karstark he goes along with it for a minute then says "Oh I am lying" and finishes cutting his finger off, that scene was definitely gut wrenching it just looked painful.

Next weeks episode is directed or written with GRRM
"The Bear and the Maiden Fair" Michelle MacLaren George R. R. Martin May 12, 2013"
Could something major happen in this episode? It's the only one with his name attached, Rob Stark has only a single destination left...

Joffery hasn't really come off as much of a little shit in this season.
08:20am 07/05/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5965 posts
The next episode is where Roose Bolton throws Brienne into the bear pit. Should be awesome. :D

I'm not particularly upset about 'major' stuff not happening, it's a big foreboding build up in all of the storylines.
I can understand if dialogue scenes aren't most people's thing, however they're quite well done. There's a real sense of which characters are oblivious, which ones are getting a bead on the others and which ones know and hate each other & power struggles shifting constantly, etc. Also, when you're balancing so many characters the weekly advancement usually isn't measured in strides, it's measured in inches.
08:40am 07/05/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5966 posts
oops double post
08:41am 07/05/13 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
971 posts
A couple of people I know getting a bit zzZZzzz at the last few ep's pace, my brother is all 'lol medieval home and away' and (i fucking shit you not) complaining about boring weddings on the way :D


Well the books are kinda like that, you read 300 pages at snails pace then all of a sudden you have to reread a chapter because 10 main characters were just killed off or captured.

Next weeks episode is directed or written with GRRM "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" Michelle MacLaren George R. R. Martin May 12, 2013"Could something major happen in this episode? It's the only one with his name attached, Rob Stark has only a single destination left...Joffery hasn't really come off as much of a little shit in this season.


Isn't this going to have the bit about Brienne or Jamie fighting the bear in the pit?
08:47am 07/05/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4146 posts
I don't know mate I think filling Ros full of arrows counts as him being a little shit.
08:52am 07/05/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20827 posts
Yeah, the finger flaying was pretty unsettling and Ramsay does seem to have the perfect amount of crazy about him. The wall climbing was pretty epic too
11:10am 07/05/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5968 posts
Yeah the wall climb was awesome, they captured the perfect 'oh crap' moment.
I thought Jon Snow and Ygritte were going to hump each others brains out when they got to the top of the wall.
The big zoom out shot at the end was great but it bugged me that one minute Tormund and Gareth Keenan were there and then they just disappeared. :/
11:27am 07/05/13 Permalink
Monkeez
Sydney, New South Wales
239 posts
I don't know mate I think filling Ros full of arrows counts as him being a little shit.

I suppose they did that to remind everyone that Joffrey is still an asshole, because for the rest of the season he's been alright. They need to build that hate before killing him off.
11:28am 07/05/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2945 posts
They're really showing off how much of a maniac Littlefinger is in this episode. More so than the book, you don't even get that he's such an anarchist even in the latest books when he kills Lysa Arryn, but that climbing the ladder in chaos monologue really drove it home.
11:43am 07/05/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5969 posts
Oh yeah, the more Littlefinger maniacally schemes, the more sympathy I feel for Varys trying his hardest to steer the ship in the opposite direction. The characters are a great balance to each other.
11:53am 07/05/13 Permalink
qmass
Queensland
10590 posts
They're really showing off how much of a maniac Littlefinger is in this episode. More so than the book, you don't even get that he's such an anarchist even in the latest books when he kills Lysa Arryn, but that climbing the ladder in chaos monologue really drove it home.
This is a miss-characterization. He is willing to use a situation to advance but he is clearly all about control not anarchy.
11:57am 07/05/13 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
7143 posts
I thought Jon Snow and Ygritte were going to hump each others brains out when they got to the top of the wall.

definitely hasn't been enough ygritte humpin' action. there was heaps in the books... it's the only time jon snow catches a break! hehe. i'm a bit bummed they have left out the whole bit about jon snow being a skin changer.. n that being a major reason he was accepted by mance. i am assuming they will bung it in later when alistair sends jon snow back out to mance.
11:59am 07/05/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20828 posts
Yeah, that chaos speech was awesome, but I didn't get the impression they were painting him as an anarchist, more that hes about seizing the opportunities that chaos presents.
12:04pm 07/05/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
741 posts
I loved the conversation between the Old Tyrell and Tywin, after Theon guesses 'Bolton' is a Karstark he goes along with it for a minute then says "Oh I am lying" and finishes cutting his finger off, that scene was definitely gut wrenching it just looked painful.Next weeks episode is directed or written with GRRM "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" Michelle MacLaren George R. R. Martin May 12, 2013"Could something major happen in this episode? It's the only one with his name attached, Rob Stark has only a single destination left...Joffery hasn't really come off as much of a little shit in this season.


The bear and the maiden fair sounds a lot like Brienne in the bear pit, as others have stated.

And I think the red wedding will be the ep "The rains of Castamere", as that's the song they play to signal the start of the attacks when everyone is slaughtered.

Speaking of which, I hope Cat gets to cut the throat of Jinglebell (The halfwit Frey) before hers gets done. I remember thinking Cat was finally badass for a short moment before being snuffed out.

I also hope they show the wolf-head sewn onto Robb's body, mostly because I just want to see my sister cringe and go "WTF!?!?". I got a chuckle out of seeing her cringe during the finger scene last ep XD
12:51pm 07/05/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2946 posts
Hope they have the budget to do Rob's wolf raping cunce in the fight!
01:20pm 07/05/13 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7290 posts
edgy. tell me more about your contrary opinions on things that are really good.

yes, I was definitely only expressing this opinion to create controversy...

I've been pretty critical in the past of people not liking series or movies due to a lack of explosions and bright lights so I'm not simply craving more sword fights and magic tricks. Maybe it was inevitable but I don't have to pick my jaw up off the floor after every episode like I used to.

the acting and production is still completely fantastic and I love watching life go by in this alternate universe. however, compared to the first two seasons where so much shit happened episode to episode the pace has undeniably changed. I even wouldn't be surprised if they're deliberately doing it to create effect for when things really go off.

yor rong, dummy. much more edgy.
01:54pm 07/05/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16963 posts
Episode 3.09 - The Rains of Castamere
Robb presents himself to Walder Frey, and Edmure meets his bride. Jon faces his harshest test yet. Bran discovers a new gift. Daario and Jorah debate how to take Yunkai. House Frey joins with House Tully.

Episode 3.10 - Mhysa
Joffrey challenges Tywin. Bran tells a ghost story. In Dragonstone, mercy comes from strange quarters. Dany waits to see if she is a conqueror or a liberator.
06:16pm 07/05/13 Permalink
existence
Brisbane, Queensland
7403 posts
Did Thoros and Milesandre ever meet up in the books? I don't remember that. I suppose they've got her taking Gendry to save introducing Edric Storm. I'm not sure if that means that Gendry isn't going to have a major role in the remaining books if the show is allowed to change his story that much.


they didnt ever meet.. the bastard for kings blood was, like you said, edric storm.

03:32pm 08/05/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13878 posts
I'm not sure if that means that Gendry isn't going to have a major role in the remaining books if the show is allowed to change his story that much.

inorite, fucking TV show spoiling my book now!
03:39pm 08/05/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1999 posts
Interesting how they're elaborating on some of the lore elements that you get in the books via other characters.

Man, non-bookers are gonna be gutted when Ygritte dies!
09:37am 10/05/13 Permalink
Creepy
USA
2133 posts
But will she go back to Downton Abbey? :)
10:31am 10/05/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4152 posts
Does she get her kit off in it? If not who cares ;-)
12:31pm 10/05/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4163 posts
Well just started watching this weeks ep and 5 minutes in Rob and his buddies are on their way to Walder Freys for the wedding. Could be a big episode

Well daenerys is getting smarter, tougher and more awesome by the minute, very much enjoying her character.
11:09am 13/05/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
747 posts
Well just started watching this weeks ep and 5 minutes in Rob and his buddies are on their way to Walder Freys for the wedding. Could be a big episodeWell daenerys is getting smarter, tougher and more awesome by the minute, very much enjoying her character.


Daenerys was my sister's fav char from the start (along with Arya and just starting to get keen on Jamie) so I was heaps excited for her to catch up to Season 3 when she actually starts to pick up as a character.

As for the "big episode" (assuming you're talking red-wedding big) I'm fairly sure they will just put all that on hold until the later episodes (I think it was ep 9?) and focus on more pressing storylines such as Arya + the Hound, Jamie getting to kings landing and the wildlings fucking about over the wall.
12:01pm 13/05/13 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7311 posts
I know theon was a right cunt and all but jesus christ, do we all need to be tortured along with him? shudder
03:02pm 13/05/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4164 posts
Yeah I was thinking of the red wedding because I was kind of surprised to see that they were already on their way to Walder Freys.
03:13pm 13/05/13 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
3088 posts
Man that bear thing was pretty lame. For one, wtf is up with those deep wounds on her neck that didn't bleed? If I get a scratch I bleed out, deep gouges like those would surely have a decent amount of claret coming out.

I was expecting an epic confrontation yet it seemed really wooden (pun!) and almost mundane. I'm guessing because it was a real bear and stunman that did it but it reminded me of those old cowboy movies where one cowboy just stands there not doing anything waiting for the super telegraphed punch by John Wayne, aka Pit Bear.
08:42pm 13/05/13 Permalink
Saint
Cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
3269 posts
Man I wish the Bran storyline was better, it's severely lacking so far IMO. He should be way further into controlling things like the book; all this raven stuff is just dull and boring.

Still on track for the red wedding in episode 9, and I reckon (and hope) next week we see Sam the Slayer.
08:56pm 13/05/13 Permalink
existence
Brisbane, Queensland
7404 posts
Yup.. Bring on cold hands and children of the Forrest!!!!
09:39pm 13/05/13 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
1575 posts
A pretty dull episode. There were some funny conversations, but it seemed to consist mostly of setups for the next few weeks.

That bear pit was really disappointing, I remembered it being more epic in the book, but probably because I was surprised at Jamie.

Looks like they're getting the most out of Robb's Queen (I still dont know her name...) before she heads out to nuncle's wedding.
10:03am 14/05/13 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
3089 posts
Anyone else notice that Jamie and Bran seemed to be in pretty much the same spot at one point?

I realise they have a limited amount of locations to shoot from but you'd think they'd mix it up so that when they film someone who is meant to be in the North versus someone in the middle of the country it'd be different locales or at least use angles which don't show the slopes of the same mountain.

Especially since one scene followed the other.
10:12am 14/05/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1376 posts
"Is that a palace?"

"No bitch it's a Windmill"

Episode wasn't bad, GRRM wrote that episode for TV so probably why it dragged on, good author for books but lets all admit it he doesn't write the shortest of stories.

I loved the scene with Joffery and Tywin, spoiled little shit I was hoping Tywin was going up their to spank him.

When Robb Stark was telling his missus "I love you" after she told him about her being pregnant I felt like photoshopping a Wolves head to his body and with the subtitle "I woof you"
07:30am 15/05/13 Permalink
Creepy
USA
2139 posts
I felt like photoshopping a Wolves head to his body and with the subtitle "I woof you"

Please make this happen!! :D
08:11am 15/05/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5996 posts
I loved the scene with Joffery and Tywin, spoiled little shit I was hoping Tywin was going up their to spank him.


Haha, yeah that scene was awesome, Charles Dance owned it.
Joffrey goes "Waahhh, I may have to walk up the Tower of the Hand stairs", so Tywin walks up 6 steps to both show him it's not so fucking hard and shifts the whole power dynamic of the scene.
09:17am 15/05/13 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7319 posts
tywin's scenes have pretty much always been the best, hands down.
09:43am 15/05/13 Permalink
Ozzy
Gold Coast, Queensland
282 posts
Damn Theon's torture is brutal. How much more do we have to watch?
01:06pm 15/05/13 Permalink
Damo
Brisbane, Queensland
6502 posts
As ozzy said, theon's torture scene was so damn brutal I was even feeling the pain!

I was so hoping Tywin was going bitchslap Joffrey, especially after he walked up the stairs and you could joffrey shitting his dacks.
01:31pm 15/05/13 Permalink
Superform
Netherlands
7734 posts
i have always said the casting in these series has been spot on - tywin and joff scene was sooo good - although you love to hate him Joff is played really well, and tywin just oozes power and authority
06:07pm 15/05/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4172 posts
Yep Tywin certainly gets the point across even when he doesnt say a word.
06:32pm 15/05/13 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
7152 posts
theon still has a lot of fingers left so i rekn there may be a lot more torture to come ;p i'm guessing the reek bit has been removed.

joffrey is played excellently, totally believably hate-able.
06:47pm 15/05/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4174 posts
Just watched the next episode, kind of like the other recent ones in that it's just paving the way to some big events which will obviously round out the season. You can clearly see Tyrion is well over his family and their bullshit.
12:05pm 20/05/13 Permalink
Creepy
USA
2141 posts
PSA: No new Game of Thrones next week, due to Memorial Day long weekend.
12:22pm 20/05/13 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
2070 posts
PSA: No new Game of Thrones next week, due to Memorial Day long weekend.
images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnt07MyfZNAoxj3AkkFrM
12:42pm 20/05/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4175 posts
Oh and I hope Fabio (you'll know him when you see him) gets his face smashed in with a blunt object.
01:12pm 20/05/13 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7331 posts
khaleesi titties and sam gets his stab on.
better than the last couple of episodes but everything is still dragging on so slowly. what were they all going on about 'if we made it to season 3 it was gonna be big!!' moar like they knew theyd be bored to death by then ;p
03:05pm 20/05/13 Permalink
Ozzy
Gold Coast, Queensland
284 posts
Finally more Khaleesi tits!

Totally agree... a slow episode.
05:46pm 20/05/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
6017 posts
I thought we'd seen the last of Khaleesi tittays because Emilia Clarke did a contract renegotiation or something.
Glad to be mistaken obviously.
05:50pm 20/05/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20850 posts
Thats Daario? I thought he was sposed to be all pimped up with fancy clothes and colourful hair and fancy beard/moustache
06:46pm 20/05/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16992 posts
bloody sam left the dagger behind
06:56pm 20/05/13 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
7160 posts
sam the slayer! lol ... i guess the bit about him being called slayer is not in the tv seriers coz there were no night's watchmen to see him slay the white walker.

red priestess is smokin' :D
07:06pm 20/05/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
757 posts
bloody sam left the dagger behind


Aye, I got shushed by my sister and friends for pointing that out, made me facepalm (the leaving it behind, not the shushing).
08:00pm 20/05/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13935 posts
Better ep than recently, the big shit is going down next week by the look of it?
09:51pm 20/05/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1381 posts
Better ep than recently, the big shit is going down next week by the look of it?
PSA: No new Game of Thrones next week, due to Memorial Day long weekend.


It's okay, gives the viewers who have no idea a week to ponder and get ready for DEATH!!!!
10:32pm 20/05/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16993 posts
Better ep than recently, the big shit is going down next week by the look of it?


no episode next week. it's on a break because of memorial day.
11:17pm 20/05/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20852 posts
I hope Stannis used the penis leech for Joffrey
11:30pm 20/05/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
758 posts
I hope Stannis used the penis leech for Joffrey


My sister found it rather amusing that myself and the 2 other guys watching the series all instinctively crossed our legs and grimaced during the penis leech and the theon torture bit where they bring out the "tackle knife" (the one with the big scary hook? Yeah...)

Better ep than recently, the big shit is going down next week by the look of it?


Going off the name of the episode, it's pretty safe to say that the red wedding will be next up, so I guess you could say that oversized piles of fecal matter are definitely going the inverse of upwards.
02:58am 21/05/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
2016 posts
Good book to tv shows comparison here, also some great other references (interview with the show runners).

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/05/game-thrones-recap-second-sons/?cid=co8126624
05:19am 21/05/13 Permalink
taggs
6157 posts
PSA: No new Game of Thrones next week, due to Memorial Day long weekend.


Wasn't the Eighth Amendment passed to prevent this sort of thing???

:(
08:08am 21/05/13 Permalink
ShOdDy
Brisbane, Queensland
152 posts
My sister found it rather amusing that myself and the 2 other guys watching the series all instinctively crossed our legs and grimaced during the penis leech and the theon torture bit where they bring out the "tackle knife" (the one with the big scary hook? Yeah...)


Which episode was this in. i dont remember watching it?
08:21am 21/05/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
6019 posts
lol taggs, cruel and unusual punishments indeed.
09:03am 21/05/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
760 posts
Which episode was this in. i dont remember watching it?


Well the cock-leeches were in the last ep, but the knife was in ep 7 (I think?) after he had the two slutty (ok, sexy...) women release Theon and sex him up.

Ramsay pulled out a nasty looking knife with a junk-cutting hook on its blade and talked about how Theon's cock was his favourite bit and threatened to cut it off etc.
12:06pm 21/05/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16996 posts
12:18pm 21/05/13 Permalink
ShOdDy
Brisbane, Queensland
153 posts
I remember now thanks:)
01:47pm 21/05/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4214 posts
/sigh of course we all knew what tonights episode would bring but I feel no less gutted. :(
11:51am 03/06/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20859 posts
Does it live up to expectations?
12:02pm 03/06/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
6055 posts
Seems the HBO site has melted under the strain, lol
12:04pm 03/06/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
777 posts
/sigh of course we all knew what tonights episode would bring but I feel no less gutted. :(


I'm going to be looking at my sister when it happens. Smart money is on tears with a little bit of sobbing. Smaller odds for just watery eyes.
12:51pm 03/06/13 Permalink
Creepy
USA
2147 posts
Brutal.

Just...brutal.
01:04pm 03/06/13 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7346 posts
fuck this show
02:50pm 03/06/13 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7347 posts

aside from grey worm kicking arse and dany's titties, I don't know what else I have to look forward to now. such a tortuous plot D:
03:05pm 03/06/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
778 posts
Update:

My sister was in shock for about a minute, then cried a little, then started cussing.

Her friends sat there through the credits, holding their heads, saying "holy shit" for ages.

Trauma: Achieved.
04:20pm 03/06/13 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
3127 posts
One more fucking episode. Just when the show really gets rolling it ends.

Wish there were more shows of this caliber.
05:07pm 03/06/13 Permalink
Mantorok
Brisbane, Queensland
6888 posts
06:52pm 03/06/13 Permalink
pARODY
Brisbane, Queensland
1159 posts
Walder Frey wastes no time in getting another wife.

link

07:18pm 03/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4215 posts
Oh jesus twitter is melting down, itll be interesting to see how big this gets and then see how it affects the view numbers next week.

In other news: i feel terrible for poor Arya but on the upside her interaction with the hound is fucking awesome. Arya is played really well and when she steps up to the hound you really get the feel from her tbat she really has no fear of him. Itll be interesting to see how their "relationship" pans out. I know she is suposed to Westeros and go to Bravos at some point isnt she?
07:27pm 03/06/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
782 posts
Oh jesus twitter is melting down, itll be interesting to see how big this gets and then see how it affects the view numbers next week.In other news: i feel terrible for poor Arya but on the upside her interaction with the hound is fucking awesome. Arya is played really well and when she steps up to the hound you really get the feel from her tbat she really has no fear of him. Itll be interesting to see how their "relationship" pans out. I know she is suposed to Westeros and go to Bravos at some point isnt she?


Aye, though that won't be for a little while yet, she has more gallivanting around with the hound to do lol.
07:43pm 03/06/13 Permalink
pARODY
Brisbane, Queensland
1160 posts
I lost my shit when I saw this.

link
07:48pm 03/06/13 Permalink
Ozzy
Gold Coast, Queensland
290 posts
Holy fucking shit.

Hectic.
08:00pm 03/06/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17028 posts
haha


no wolf headed robb. :(
08:04pm 03/06/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13993 posts
Hahah I'm away and haven't seen it yet but holy shit at the twitter retweets, so awesome :)

Also: "Why doesn't George R.R. Martin use twitter? Because he killed all 140 characters." :D
08:16pm 03/06/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
783 posts
haha


no wolf headed robb. :(


I think it might happen later, when they show proof that he's dead.

I don't think the wolf-headed thing occurred on the same day in the book.

Hahah I'm away and haven't seen it yet but holy shit at the twitter retweets, so awesome :)Also: "Why doesn't George R.R. Martin use twitter? Because he killed all 140 characters." :D


LOL!

Hadn't seen that one yet, I choked a little...
08:41pm 03/06/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2983 posts
fucking brutal. was actually more brutal than what i imagined when i read it, farrrk. only dissapointed at the way they finished robs wolf, he was suppose to fuck cunts up.
08:44pm 03/06/13 Permalink
pARODY
Brisbane, Queensland
1161 posts
The wold head thing happening in the same book would be irrelevant since the detail was given in the 4th book but still happened the day of the wedding. I hope they show Catelyn being dumped in the river for Beric to find later.
08:44pm 03/06/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2984 posts
Also did they ever explain the origins of the Rains of castermere song in the book?

I don't remember they did.

They did a really good job by telling that little story in the previous episode.
08:55pm 03/06/13 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
2077 posts
Also did they ever explain the origins of the Rains of castermere song in the book?I don't remember they did.They did a really good job by telling that little story in the previous episode.


yeah cersei explains it to margerey tyrell in the episode before during sansa's wedding
09:11pm 03/06/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2985 posts
I know they did it in the previous episode, just wondering if it was explained in the book at all. I can't recall they did,
09:13pm 03/06/13 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
2078 posts
oh shit, my bad read half the post. too busy being distracted by the tweets :)
09:15pm 03/06/13 Permalink
IncrEdible_vEgetable
Brisbane, Queensland
2355 posts
Just lol at those tweets.

Every tweet I read made me want to punch that person right in their whining mealy mouthed pathetic crybaby face. Crying and puking? Really?

What teenagers need these days is a bloody good dose of trench warfare. Then we'll see who's crying cos Rob Stark copped an arrow in the back. If Charlie Chapiln had have died like Oogly Chaplin the boys would have kept right on fighting the Hun without so much as a beg your pardon, make no mistake about it.


09:26pm 03/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4216 posts
I am guessing we may see lady stark get tossed in the rive early in the next episode. What i am wondering though is if she will be found before the end of the season since it would be a good final scene having her eyes open up in the last second of the season leaving everyone to wonder wtf happens now for the next 12 months
09:42pm 03/06/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17029 posts
it's possible since in the book she was resurrected only 3 days later.
09:48pm 03/06/13 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7348 posts
Game of Thrones this, Game of Thrones that... Yo FUCK that midget. Can't take that fucking guy seriously.

lol this tweet in the middle of the puking and crying
09:49pm 03/06/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17030 posts
oh you poor fool

09:53pm 03/06/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8641 posts
Oh god, the salty tears from twitter are amazing.

Was a good recreation I thought. I felt the book had more happening in it though, but am still impressed how it was done. Particularly with the Queenie, wasn't sure what they were going to do there. The slicing of Catelyn's throat was a good way to the end the episode.
09:53pm 03/06/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17031 posts
the silent credits was a good addition too.
09:58pm 03/06/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
6058 posts
The Lannisters send their regards! Outstanding.
09:59pm 03/06/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17032 posts
anyone else laugh at how devastated jorah looked after daenerys asked about daario?
10:01pm 03/06/13 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
8643 posts
WHAT ABOUT ME MY QUEEN, I HAVE BLOOD ON ME TOO!
10:05pm 03/06/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17033 posts
finale promo

10:05pm 03/06/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2986 posts
very underwhelming after seeing ep 9
10:09pm 03/06/13 Permalink
Damo
Brisbane, Queensland
6542 posts
http://http//i.imgur.com/KKF8I7d.png
10:19pm 03/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4217 posts
anyone else laugh at how devastated jorah looked after daenerys asked about daario?



Fabio can take a flying fucking leap and i hope Jorah ass fucks him with that pretty dagger he has. Dont not like that guy one lottle bit lol
10:31pm 03/06/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
6059 posts
lol at the twitter explosion of angst

GoT-Dany-Deal-With-It.gif


Here's how I imagine your house Wirlwind:

7IgWM.gif
10:34pm 03/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4218 posts
Here is a question for you all. If karma was to catch up with that motherfucker Bolton what should it be? I only ask because i cant imagine anyway of him being fucked no matter how horrible that would fully pay that prick back.

I am going to take a guess that he will meet his fate at the hands of the Lannisters at some point because you know as they say, when you swim with sharks blah blah blah.

I have to give credit to this story because even when you know whats coming it doesnt lessen the blow much and you have to love that.
10:39pm 03/06/13 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
1611 posts
If it was karma, it would have to be a flaying. Dunno who by though.
11:20pm 03/06/13 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
2079 posts
hmmm.
11:27pm 03/06/13 Permalink
Monkeez
Sydney, New South Wales
246 posts
His son maybe? I don't know why though.
11:29pm 03/06/13 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
2080 posts
delete this - can't post the pic :(
11:29pm 03/06/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2987 posts
I'm sure Cat will get him in book 6...she'll get her revenge.
11:30pm 03/06/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20860 posts
I loved that they included the bit about how he chose a fat wife to get all the money, that was one of my favourite little character bits in the books.

And even though I guess the Red Wedding in the books seemed to have more going on, cos you knew the names of the other characters and people with Robb Stark who were also getting killed, in some ways the show version felt even more brutal, mostly I think cos of his wife getting stabbed in the baby. That was so casually brutal, the way the guy comes up and just has a bit of a leisurely stabby stab, like hes carving a piece of meat.
11:31pm 03/06/13 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
2081 posts
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11:33pm 03/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4219 posts
Lol nice, i damn near pissed myself

Being a GoT fan kind of makes me feel like that guy in that old gif thats strung up naked while some whore repeatedly kicks me him in the nuts. What worries me is a like it :-/
11:39pm 03/06/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
784 posts
Here's how I imagine your house Wirlwind:7IgWM.gif


Pretty much exactly that, except with more cradling of heads in hands, tears and "holy shit!"

That shit-eating grin, however.... Absolutely perfect :D
12:32am 04/06/13 Permalink
Creepy
USA
2148 posts
What teenagers need these days is a bloody good dose of trench warfare. Then we'll see who's crying cos Rob Stark copped an arrow in the back. If Charlie Chapiln had have died like Oogly Chaplin the boys would have kept right on fighting the Hun without so much as a beg your pardon, make no mistake about it.

Funny you should mention Charlie Chaplin - the actress who played Talisa is a direct decendant of his. :)
12:38am 04/06/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
2043 posts
Haha man I am loving the Red Wedding fallout/rage.. quality!

Will try and watch this ep today.
12:47am 04/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4220 posts
Yeah i have to say that the outpouring of grief on the net has added an unexpected extra dimension of entertainment and allround awesomeness to the show. Particularly in reguards to seeing the female viewers totally shattered over the death of rob and his missus dreamy little relationship. Lifes a fucking bitch not a fucking fairytale girls lol
12:59am 04/06/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
785 posts
Yeah i have to say that the outpouring of grief on the net has added an unexpected extra dimension of entertainment and allround awesomeness to the show. Particularly in reguards to seeing the female viewers totally shattered over the death of rob and his missus dreamy little relationship. Lifes a fucking bitch not a fucking fairytale girls lol


https://twitter.com/RedWeddingTears

Worth a quick once over if you havn't seen it already :D
01:18am 04/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4221 posts
Bad link i think mate i cant get it.

I have been reading responses to this all morning from fan tweets to blogs and media outlets and to say its been epic is such a massive understatement it beggers belief. Its utterly staggering lol

Number 1 comment for the day so far that i have read,....... yeah winter is coming HBO..... to your ratings. Man i laughed my ass off
02:31am 04/06/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
2045 posts
Just watched the ep.. it is pretty gut wrenching! Brings back all the hurt from when I first read about the Red Wedding!

Edit:

I've been listening to this on repeat to try and soothe it.

04:40am 04/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4222 posts
Off the current topic just a fraction but when do the Dornish make an appearence?
04:54am 04/06/13 Permalink
Damo
Brisbane, Queensland
6543 posts
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07:00am 04/06/13 Permalink
Damo
Brisbane, Queensland
6544 posts
Probably too soon but does anyone know/have a link to the music which the band was playing just before....
07:05am 04/06/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
2047 posts
Damo, it's the strings bit from the Rains of Castamere, see embed in my post just up ^.
07:21am 04/06/13 Permalink
Damo
Brisbane, Queensland
6545 posts
Cheers mate.
07:26am 04/06/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20861 posts
Off the current topic just a fraction but when do the Dornish make an appearence?


Probably next season, at the very least the Red Viper will show up next season to fight at Tyrion's trial, so they might mix a bit of book 4 and have some more dornish stuff to give backing to that.
07:55am 04/06/13 Permalink
Damo
Brisbane, Queensland
6547 posts
What's the cheapest(free?) place for audiobooks?
08:19am 04/06/13 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
6372 posts
09:14am 04/06/13 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
7170 posts
game of thrones really shows why not following a generic 'good guy always wins' storyline will work with people despite the hollywood methodology of sticking with the tired old cliches because they are 'proven'. the fan base might be up in arms at the moment about the red wedding but i think they will all be watching next season.

not saying it's not harsh though... fkn harsh! :D
09:24am 04/06/13 Permalink
pARODY
Brisbane, Queensland
1162 posts
Everyone who got burnt with the Red Wedding will be cheering for Joffrey dying at the Royal Wedding.
09:34am 04/06/13 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
7171 posts
yeah... i dunno... i didn't get closure when reading the books & joff dies... it wasn't bloody & gruesome enough as joff deserves ;)
09:37am 04/06/13 Permalink
Mephz
Brisbane, Queensland
1363 posts
Hahaha that twitter link just shows how retarded the vast population of the earth is.
Oh dear god an overall story that is put ahead of some main characters or 'good' guys?
Quick, boycott and hurl abuse at the makers!
09:44am 04/06/13 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
1612 posts
Is there really going to be a royal wedding next episode?

I seem to remember a massive buildup to it in the book that just hasn't been happening in the show.
09:57am 04/06/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17034 posts
the royal wedding will probably be next season.


10:55am 04/06/13 Permalink
Saint
Cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
3271 posts
I was happy with the other storylines this week too. More good Hound and Arya scenes which I really enjoyed in the book, and also FINALLY they show Bran doing his thing. Also, lots of HODOR as it was in the book which made me happy.
11:00am 04/06/13 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
7172 posts
haha i laughed when bran says 'no more hodering hodor!'
11:08am 04/06/13 Permalink
Monkeez
Sydney, New South Wales
247 posts
11:12am 04/06/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
788 posts
Everyone who got burnt with the Red Wedding will be cheering for Joffrey dying at the Royal Wedding.


That's assuming all the people who got burnt will return lol. I think a lot of people are only just now getting the fact that no-one is actually safe AT ALL and that the good guy doesn't always win, even if he deserves to.


Bad link i think mate i cant get it.I have been reading responses to this all morning from fan tweets to blogs and media outlets and to say its been epic is such a massive understatement it beggers belief. Its utterly staggering lolNumber 1 comment for the day so far that i have read,....... yeah winter is coming HBO..... to your ratings. Man i laughed my ass off


For some raisin, the link removes the colon from the link, even though it's right there where I pasted it lol.

Just a simple matter of adding it to the address after you click the link.
11:26am 04/06/13 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
3128 posts
The shock of main characters dieing aside, it was also pretty brutal especially Robs wife being stabbed in the baby. I think the brutality may be a major factor for the shock and disgust and I can certainly see christian groups boycotting on anti-abortion grounds.
11:38am 04/06/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17035 posts
i thought the guy was going to slit her throat, but he decided to use her like a pin cushion instead.
11:44am 04/06/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
6062 posts
and that the good guy doesn't always win, even if he deserves to.


Does the good guy deserve to win though?

Perhaps these guys said it best:
"So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb." -- Dark Helmet
11:47am 04/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4223 posts
yeah... i dunno... i didn't get closure when reading the books & joff dies... it wasn't bloody & gruesome enough as joff deserves ;)


Isn't this always the case though? I swear every movie I watch where one of the main bad guys is a right royal fucking asshole they never ever torture the fucker enough when he meets his inevitable end, I swear it shits me to tears. This little prick should be tossed out of the palace for all the world to see then beaten until he begs and cries so all can see what a bitch he is. I want those around him and his subjects to be under no illusion as to how cowardly lowly and generally fucked up he is and I want it to last a good long while. More importantly I want him to know that he has been outted in front of everyone for being exactly what he is.

game of thrones really shows why not following a generic 'good guy always wins' storyline will work with people despite the hollywood methodology of sticking with the tired old cliches because they are 'proven'. the fan base might be up in arms at the moment about the red wedding but i think they will all be watching next season.

not saying it's not harsh though... fkn harsh! :D


So totally true mate. This also probably has a lot to do with why we keep getting more or less nothing but recycled shit and sequels out of Hollywood. Because no one has the balls enough to really test their audience and lacking that they don't have the imagination to come up with anything new, its fucking sad.

I have a couple of questions about lastnights episode.

1) Am I correct in my understanding that Talisa wasn't at the wedding in the books? If so what happened to her and what purpose could it have served to change this?

2) Did Robs uncle get killed aswell because last I saw of him he was heading for a tree for a piss? If he did manage to dodge this bullet I find it just a little odd and incredibly good timing on his bladders behalf.

Also I'd just like to add that it wouldn't matter to me which bad guy or even if all of them got killed in retribution for last night it wouldn't make up for the loss. Perhaps that's just me, I don't know
11:54am 04/06/13 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
7173 posts
well hopefully now some hollywood execs might get the idea that the audience will accept* storylines that don't follow their checklists :)

* ... mostly.

my own memory of what happens to talisa is a bit vague... in the books she wasn't from volantis.. she was from a minor westeros house that was bannered to the lannisters. i can't remember what happens to her in the books :/

robb's uncle (the blackfish) escapes the red wedding & goes back to tully lands iirc. edmure is held captive by the freys.
12:02pm 04/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4224 posts
I am enjoying the reactions of people almost as much as I enjoy the show. It is so incredibly awesome to see what happens when you drop a bomb on someone and see them getting totally blown away by it. I don't care to be critical or to demean the people that took it to heart I actually think its fantastic that a TV show can make people feel something deep down inside their gut, its fucking brilliant.


(edit)
One more question, where the hell is Ghost, Jons wolf?
12:21pm 04/06/13 Permalink
d^
Melbourne, Victoria
1292 posts
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12:23pm 04/06/13 Permalink
Damo
Brisbane, Queensland
6549 posts
12:45pm 04/06/13 Permalink
Creepy
USA
2149 posts
Haha, Maisie Williams (Arya Stark) tells it like it is:

http://vine.co/v/b3XZMHmxzxh
01:56pm 04/06/13 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
8178 posts
link
02:48pm 04/06/13 Permalink
Netrosis
Brisbane, Queensland
3 posts
Even though I knew what was coming, watching it unfold was brutal.
03:36pm 04/06/13 Permalink
Ozzy
Gold Coast, Queensland
291 posts
So fucking brutal. I loved it. Pretty well done. Bravo.

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05:11pm 04/06/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
2048 posts
Haha, this is why I love the internet! So many lol's.

Taipan, demon - you should check out this 'state of cinema' address by Steven Soderbergh, bit of a long read but it's all about Hollywood and it's recycled shit. http://www.deadline.com/2013/04/steven-soderbergh-state-of-cinema-address/

The blackfish escapes the red wedding, and holes up at Riverrun before surrending to Jamie but then escaping again and remaining at large.

From memory Robb's wife didn't attend the wedding, but she gets picked up by Jamie after he takes Riverrun and sent to Casterly Rock with Edmure I think. Her and her whole family were pretty suspicious from in the book I thought, it seemed like her mother had helped plan the Red Wedding or something similar. Wasn't there something about her giving her daughter (Robbs wife) potion juice to prevent her from having a baby?
06:04pm 04/06/13 Permalink
IncrEdible_vEgetable
Brisbane, Queensland
2358 posts
Funny you should mention Charlie Chaplin - the actress who played Talisa is a direct decendant of his. :)


Yeah that was the joke I was (lamely) trying to make and used "Oogly" instead of Oona cos I cbf googling her name.

If Charlie Chapiln had have died like Oogly Chaplin the boys would have kept right on fighting the Hun without so much as a beg your pardon


Not that it matters regarding the show anymore I guess, but I have been trying to work out whether Oona is super hot or she is one of those people that looks good from one angle and kinda plain from another.
Evidence: Images of Oona

I suspect that she is one of those girls that would be quite stunning IRL but in some photos looks quite different. I definitely wouldn't call her ugly, just in some photos she strikes me as incredibly beautiful whereas in others she's a bit meh.

Decided I would hit it regardless.

Thanks for listening.
06:52pm 04/06/13 Permalink
AussieBastard
Sydney, New South Wales
2 posts
latest ep i mind blowing
07:01pm 04/06/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2990 posts
Someone remind me; whose perspective was the red wedding written in?
09:22pm 04/06/13 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
862 posts
Catelyn's POV
09:50pm 04/06/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
2049 posts
Man I'd completely forgotten that Robb is never a POV character in the books, crazy!

Good read: http://www.avclub.com/articles/why-game-of-thrones-red-wedding-packs-such-an-emot,98566/
01:33am 05/06/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
791 posts
1) Am I correct in my understanding that Talisa wasn't at the wedding in the books? If so what happened to her and what purpose could it have served to change this?


Talisa was a TV series character, she doesn't exist in the book. Robb's wife in print was the daughter of a lesser noble (Her name was Jeyne Westerling) whom he deflowered during his greif / her consoling him after hearing the younger kids were dead @ winterfell (and she also nursed him back from an injury). So he was stuck between leaving the maiden fucked and alone (dick move) or marrying her and breaking his word. He decided to keep her honour intact and married her the morning after.

Her house was pardoned and she was allowed to live in the book. I think her parents weren't too keen on the marriage or anything and might have had something to do with the betrayal as Jeyne gets given to a nobleman and the whole time they were giving her a potion to cock-block getting preggers.

2) Did Robs uncle get killed as well because last I saw of him he was heading for a tree for a piss? If he did manage to dodge this bullet I find it just a little odd and incredibly good timing on his bladders behalf.


It's been a while, but I'm reasonably sure he wasn't actually at the wedding in the book either. I think he stayed at Riverrun and he even holds out later down the line when the Lannisters siege the joint (but he escapes out into the river and is currently missing)

::EDIT:: Oops, viper beat me to an explanation, though I think mine's wordier :P
03:21am 05/06/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2992 posts
I went back to Storm of Swords and re-read the Red Wedding. Ah so good lol

Much bigger, less one sided than in the show (still raped though) but definitely appreciated how they transferred a lot of dialogue from the book into the show, I have a shit memory so didn't notice when watching.
11:26am 05/06/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
792 posts
I went back to Storm of Swords and re-read the Red Wedding. Ah so good lolMuch bigger, less one sided than in the show (still raped though) but definitely appreciated how they transferred a lot of dialogue from the book into the show, I have a shit memory so didn't notice when watching.


I liked the throwback to the book with the customary eating of bread when they first show up.

They don't go into the whole importance of the food supposedly giving them protection in the series, so it was nice to see that little wink wink nudge nudge.
12:15pm 05/06/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
6065 posts
Did they do any expository dialog about the importance of bread and salt in recent episodes?
I think they introduced it at Winterfell in Season 1, but it would have been nice as a refresher to show Robb isn't a complete blundering fool, something innocuous for Catelyn to say like - "Walder Frey can't be trusted, we need to invoke guest right immediately"
12:32pm 05/06/13 Permalink
Damo
Brisbane, Queensland
6550 posts
Just about to finish book 1 thanks to audiobook on youtube. Can remember every single scene in the show when spoken, so damn cool.
01:15pm 05/06/13 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
3130 posts
By the sounds of it I think Robs wife was done much better in the show than the books. The biggest impact of the red wedding for viewers was certainly her demise.

There are a lot of changes in the show in order to cut down on the number of characters and locations but that one particular change seemed a little bit more deliberate and I wonder if GRRM made that change himself preferring it to the more convoluted story he told in the books or if it was just clever work on behalf of one of the writers for the show.
02:22pm 05/06/13 Permalink
Ozzy
Gold Coast, Queensland
292 posts
Apparently next episode gets even more hectic. What happens????
02:37pm 05/06/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
6067 posts
Apparently next episode gets even more hectic. What happens????


Bolton marches his northmen right out the Twins gate
and yells out to the lord "Yo, Frey, flay you later!"
Stannis regroups and sails out from his Dragonstone lair;
& Joffrey passes Tommen the crown and iron sword chair
04:03pm 05/06/13 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
7174 posts
Much bigger, less one sided than in the show (still raped though) but definitely appreciated how they transferred a lot of dialogue from the book into the show, I have a shit memory so didn't notice when watching.

yeh they seem to have cut greatjon umber out of the tv show ever since the scene where he tells theon to get out of the tent when catlyn returns from the vale. i seem to recall him going off at the red wedding... in the book.
04:28pm 05/06/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20862 posts
Yeah, that was probably the only thing I missed, was Umber at the wedding (I can't remember if the it was the Greatjon or his son though, but yeah, he went off).

And I would have liked to see them collapsing the tents and burning everyone, but who knows, maybe we'll see that next episode, the preview of next episode did have some hound shots with fire in the background.
05:21pm 05/06/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2993 posts
Did they do any expository dialog about the importance of bread and salt in recent episodes?


I think they tried their best in fitting in how important it is during the initial meeting in ep 9, you could see how scrambed to shove something into their mouths like if they didnt they would die in the next minute. Whether non-readers would pick that up, eh.

Yeah, that was probably the only thing I missed, was Umber at the wedding (I can't remember if the it was the Greatjon or his son though, but yeah, he went off).


Both Greatjon and Littlejon were at the wedding.

Everyone should re-read the chapter, takes a few mins, awesome read as a refresher. It was like a checklist of people getting smashed haha.
05:50pm 05/06/13 Permalink
Monkeez
Sydney, New South Wales
251 posts
06:46pm 05/06/13 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
2082 posts
09:22pm 05/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4226 posts
Hows that prick bloton exiting stage left as soon as the shit was about to hit the fan. Then as soon as thing come to a stand still he shows back up to finish rob off. What a cowardly prick
09:52pm 05/06/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2995 posts
Oh another little story line that I totally forgot about. Arya's wolf. It was constantly mentioned that there was a huge wolf roaming the countryside, will anything come out of it in book 7+?
09:55pm 05/06/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
2051 posts
Quality.

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09:58pm 05/06/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
6069 posts
^ haha, that's awesome

Also,
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10:39pm 05/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4227 posts
Can anyone tell me if the wolves start to feature a little more in the future? Also, does Arya's wolf actually end up back with her at some point?
01:02am 06/06/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2996 posts
Also, does Arya's wolf actually end up back with her at some point?
that's what i was wondering in my previous post. Have you read the books? Aryas wolf is still raping cunce in the country side with her pack
01:26am 06/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4228 posts
I just read something where they said she is roaming the river lands but thats all the info they had. Personally i hope to see moreof the wolves but with so many possibilities with all the characters its hard to guess where things might go and who or what they may be involved with.

I'd just like to see her eventually strolling about the countryside with her wolf fucking assholes up and getting some payback. I just hope grrm doesnt kick the bucket before he is done because that would suck the biggest pair of balls in history.
04:10am 06/06/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
2052 posts
I think they've cut down the wolves in the show as it must be hard to do?

In the books there's lots of mentions of a wolf pack, led by what's inferred to be Arrya's wolf, causing havoc.
04:44am 06/06/13 Permalink
Damo
Brisbane, Queensland
6553 posts
Are the prologues in the book needed to be read at all?
06:45am 06/06/13 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
2083 posts
Are the prologues in the book needed to be read at all?


Yes. Usually someone dies!
09:06am 06/06/13 Permalink
Damo
Brisbane, Queensland
6554 posts
*edit*

just realised audiobook I was listening to yesterday wasn't complete copy of the book.. fml!
09:36am 06/06/13 Permalink
taggs
6175 posts
Yes, there's a whole chapter about his execution written from Arya's perspective in book 1.
09:43am 06/06/13 Permalink
Damo
Brisbane, Queensland
6555 posts
Taggs, just found that out..

Copy of the book on youtube wasn't a complete copy. I now have to wait till tomorrow so I can finish off book 1. :(
09:44am 06/06/13 Permalink
taggs
6176 posts
Ah sorry, had the window open for a while before responding. Didn't see your edit until after I'd posted.
09:47am 06/06/13 Permalink
Damo
Brisbane, Queensland
6556 posts
All good mate. Just found some more chapters on youtube. Only a third of the way through the first book. I thought finishing the book in half a day felt to quick.
09:51am 06/06/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
799 posts
Oh another little story line that I totally forgot about. Arya's wolf. It was constantly mentioned that there was a huge wolf roaming the countryside, will anything come out of it in book 7+?


Considering Arya was having dreams about being in Nimera's brain ala Bran with his wolf and the constant mention in passing about it, I'd imagine that GRRM is keeping the thought in the back of our heads.

It might be just so Nimeria can show up, save Arya and then be brutally murdered, or it could just be a false trail, but I think it's probably the first.

There's also a small chance that Arya manages to become a warg herself, I guess. Maybe with the return of the dragons, the descendants of the first men will be discovering they have a few interesting powers that used to exist.
10:15am 06/06/13 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7349 posts
doesn't arya become a face stealing murder boss?
11:00am 06/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4229 posts
Yeah I was kind of under the impression that she was going to head down the path of badass assassin racking up a body count in the name of her god ... Death. From the little I know she heads to bravos with a view to learn to become a faceless man or in her case girl/woman I guess
12:05pm 06/06/13 Permalink
pARODY
Brisbane, Queensland
1163 posts
01:19pm 06/06/13 Permalink
Mantorok
Brisbane, Queensland
6893 posts
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05:33pm 06/06/13 Permalink
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Brisbane, Queensland
7353 posts
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06:11pm 06/06/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20864 posts
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07:40pm 06/06/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1398 posts
Am I missing something?
08:43pm 06/06/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1399 posts
Am I missing something?
08:43pm 06/06/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17045 posts
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09:39pm 06/06/13 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
6377 posts
09:10am 08/06/13 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7356 posts
fucking lol
that was pretty awesome
10:20am 08/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4231 posts
Lol nice find sLaps_Forehead.

Please stop don't eat one more nacho.
12:16pm 08/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4234 posts
And so it begins, then it's one more year of waiting.


Nooo pork sausage ... lol

I think this will crack a few of you up.

Well all and all i have to say that episode was a bit of a fizzer for a season end particularly after what happened last week. I doubt itll do anything to help retain viewers that were all heart broken after recent events. Personally think think they could of done a much better job on the season finale.
11:11am 10/06/13 Permalink
Creepy
USA
2154 posts
It's an HBO finale. They are all the same.

But it was nice to see a few older faces and places again.

Majorly bummed that the last scene wasn't the reanimation of Catelyn. That would've really fucked people up.

Still, the highlights would be Arya's fireside chat, and the "king of the north" (as in, yep, they actually did it). Oh, and the king being sent to bed without his supper.
03:06pm 10/06/13 Permalink
Damo
Brisbane, Queensland
6565 posts
Bit of a failed ending..


Creepy, is that true about Catelyn or are you pulling my leg?
03:23pm 10/06/13 Permalink
Ivonin
Brisbane, Queensland
1145 posts
Damo ... it happens. Remember, this is a thread for those who have read the books. =P
03:52pm 10/06/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17062 posts
that whole scene with the council and joffrey was awesome, especially tyrions threat.

i'm disappointed that they never introduced coldhands. hopefully he'll make an appearance next season.
08:09pm 10/06/13 Permalink
jaydub
Gold Coast, Queensland
136 posts
"killed a few puppies today?"

Rofl.... So good.
08:17pm 10/06/13 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
3141 posts
Arya should have asked for the dudes name before she killed him
08:24pm 10/06/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2999 posts
that whole scene with the council and joffrey was awesome, especially tyrions threat.

i'm disappointed that they never introduced coldhands. hopefully he'll make an appearance next season.


Speaking of Coldhands, when I first got to him in the books I immediately thought he was the Stark uncle that got lost in the woods and never came back (i have this eternal optimism people come back in some shape...) but the more I got into it the less i thought that to be the case. What is he? Or am I not meant to know.
09:16pm 10/06/13 Permalink
FraktuRe
Gold Coast, Queensland
4504 posts
A lot of people think he is, but we don't know either way.
09:24pm 10/06/13 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
8179 posts
No Lady Stoneheart. :(

Yeah, I think Benjen was the first thing that came to everyone's minds when Coldhands was introduced. He was already supposed to be in it at this point, but I'm not surprised that he isn't. He'll probably meet up with Bran and co early in the next season.
10:46pm 10/06/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
2058 posts
I kinda got the impression in the books that Coldhands wasn't Benjen, does anyone know for sure?
12:22am 11/06/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21955 posts
I don't watch GoT but whenever I hear everyone going on about this stupid "red wedding" all I can picture is that every woman at the event is on her period.
12:25am 11/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4235 posts
No whoop every women carries on like they have after the event, well those watching it anyway.
01:21am 11/06/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17065 posts
I kinda got the impression in the books that Coldhands wasn't Benjen, does anyone know for sure?


didn't coldhands reveal that he's been like that for a very long time?
07:58am 11/06/13 Permalink
TDog
Brisbane, Queensland
102 posts
It's an HBO finale. They are all the same.But it was nice to see a few older faces and places again.Majorly bummed that the last scene wasn't the reanimation of Catelyn. That would've really fucked people up.Still, the highlights would be Arya's fireside chat, and the "king of the north" (as in, yep, they actually did it). Oh, and the king being sent to bed without his supper.


They did it wrong. In the books, the wolf head is sewn on, unless that happens later.

The girl also stabs samwell but he's so fat it doesn't do anything.

Also, Samwell becomes more toned and solid in the books after some actual hard training. Will the actor pull a Toby McGuire?
08:06am 11/06/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17067 posts
despite people whinging that they would never watch again after ep9, the finale increased in the ratings.
08:17am 11/06/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
2060 posts
Yeah I think you're right ravno0s, which is why I thought it wasn't Benjen.

Also I just realised Kevan Lannister hasn't been about at all!? And he plays quite a large part after the battle of kingslanding.
08:31am 11/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4238 posts
Tdog if you actually looked at the wolfs head you could see there were strands tieing it to robs shoulders albeit loosely. They even say as much when that guy arya kills gives a run down on how hard it was to tie the head to the body. Its a bit nit picky to raise it in my opinion
08:37am 11/06/13 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
8180 posts
Yeah, it's unlikely that Coldhands is Benjen, what I meant was that everyone I've talked to/read on the net has at least initially thought/hoped it was Benjen.
09:30am 11/06/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
6081 posts
Yeah, the sewn on head was done pretty well IMO. How else would a wolf's head attached to a dude's body look?
Nice that they didn't shy away from it too. :D
09:41am 11/06/13 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
7179 posts
i assume the t in tdog stands for troll.

good ep but it lacked a bit of punch after the red wedding.
now just gotta wait another friggn year!@# :)
10:10am 11/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4239 posts
Yeah, the sewn on head was done pretty well IMO. How else would a wolf's head attached to a dude's body look?Nice that they didn't shy away from it too. :D



I think they put any fears of them shying away from anything well and truly to bed last week. Hell they even upped the stakes by slaughtering Talisa in the manner they did. lol

You know one really small thing I'd like to see. I'd like to see Tywin acknowledge Tyrions intelligence even if it's just a casual nod. As far as his kids go they are total fucking duds with one small exception being Jamies skills as a swordsmen which of course now looks like a thing of the past. Cersei is pretty much useless and apart from having three kids does absolutely zero to further the lannister name. Tyrion on the other hand has truck loads of potential and could do more to further his families name than even Tywin could.

Somehow I don't think we'll see it though since Tywins days are numbered. Hell if it wasn't for the end of the season I'd give Tywin about 2 weeks tops lol :P

Just watched Arya go to town on that Frey soldier again, best scene in the episode for my money. Unless at some point down the track you know who kills her off her storyline feels like its heading somewhere truly epic. I have heard that the hound is thought to be dead in a future book which is a shame because the partnership he and Arya are developing is one of the highlights for me right now.
11:29am 11/06/13 Permalink
TDog
Brisbane, Queensland
103 posts
The T stands for you're an idiot. My Vulcan intelligence prohibits me from talking on your level.

Sandor is a great character. He's still running around after the Arya business. Such a great attitude towards killing and mentors Arya to some degree. Arya is going to kill everyone.

Cersei is a major player. She sets up the kingdom for a big invasion and truly destroys the lannisters.

Sansa needs to get her shit together and stop being a pawn. I hope little fingers training makes her into a psycho political killer
11:58am 11/06/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
811 posts
I'd like to see Tywin acknowledge Tyrions intelligence even if it's just a casual nod.


I was under the assumption that he'd already kind of nodded at him when he appointed Tyrion as the treasurer. He wouldn't have given him the job if he didn't see that Tyrion was intelligent enough.

I have heard that the hound is thought to be dead in a future book which is a shame because the partnership he and Arya are developing is one of the highlights for me right now.


I just went back and looked through the wiki of the SOIAF books.

Clegane died in the arms of the head monk of the monastery on the quiet isle where Brienne learns of it and also that Arya was still alive.

The head monk put the dog-shaped helm on his cairne, but someone swiped it. Lots of rumours were going around about the dog raping young children and doing nasty things, but that was the guy who found the helm.

The monastery also housed the dog's warhorse, Stranger. So it's pretty damn safe to say that he's undeniably dead.
01:12pm 11/06/13 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
10035 posts
Thought episode 10 was awesome.
It was slower than pretty much every episode up to now, but I think book 1 and 2 deserved more than a single season each.
03:30pm 11/06/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
6084 posts
The lion king music at the end there was nice. Aww, they're holding Khaleesi up like Simba!
03:35pm 11/06/13 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
2084 posts
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04:58pm 11/06/13 Permalink
TDog
Brisbane, Queensland
107 posts
I honestly thought he was eating Theon's penis for a little bit
06:51pm 11/06/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1407 posts
Clegane died in the arms of the head monk of the monastery on the quiet isle where Brienne learns of it and also that Arya was still alive.


Isn't it mentioned in the books from someone elses POV, could be Briennes that she notices a big ugly guy with marks on his face, maybe 'The Hound' died but he was reborn as a monk?

Good episode, can't wait for Season 4 so much more epicness is coming up!
10:29pm 11/06/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
821 posts
Isn't it mentioned in the books from someone elses POV, could be Briennes that she notices a big ugly guy with marks on his face, maybe 'The Hound' died but he was reborn as a monk?Good episode, can't wait for Season 4 so much more epicness is coming up!


Not sure about that, I don't remember it and I didn't see anything about it on the wiki *shrug*

Seems all but shouted in your face that he's dead.
10:37pm 11/06/13 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
863 posts
It's one of the theories out there yes, that he's living as a monk or something.
11:02pm 11/06/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
14017 posts
Hmm interesting that they've fallen so far behind book 3.

No Zombie Catelyn (book 3 epilogue)
No Eyrie Littlefinger, Sansa still in King's Landing
No Arya boat to Braavos
No wounded Clegane
No Royal Wedding and glorious death of King Fucking Cuntface
No Jaime Lord Commander. WTF is he doing in King's Landing yet when Joff is still alive?
No Tyrion strangling Shae and shooting Tywin for getting it on
No Tyrion trial escape
No Wildling Attack on the Wall
No Jon Snow Lord Commander of the Night's Watch

It goes on and on, looks like they are stretching it out quite a bit now? Thought season 1 and 2 were basically book 1 and 2.

If the above shocks you and you haven't read the books your own damn fault, you shouldn't be here.
11:37pm 11/06/13 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
864 posts
They're not far behind at all. They said a while back (season 2 was probably still screening) that they were splitting book 3 over 2 seasons.
11:40pm 11/06/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
14018 posts
They're not far behind at all. They said a while back (season 2 was probably still screening) that they were splitting book 3 over 2 seasons.

That sounds pretty far behind to me :p

This season was way stretched out and would have been much better if all the above happened. They're fucking milking it.
11:43pm 11/06/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20877 posts
Book 3 is enormous though, even before they said they were splitting it over two seasons I assumed they would, its even published as two separate parts now (well the version I got was two separate books, but you can still get it all in one).

I don't think the season was stretched out really, I mean there was lots of build up and less big battles and stuff, but I don't think theres really that much that needed to be trimmed out, certainly nowhere near enough to fit the whole of book 3 in one season. I did expect them to kill Joffrey this season, and maybe bring Catelyn back as zombie Catelyn, but I never expected the rest to happen.
12:05am 12/06/13 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
865 posts
I always figured that Joffrey's death would be a season 4 thing. It (and the aftermath of it) were always the big thing that happened in the second halfish of the book in the lower Westeros (so discounting the Wall and in Mereen etc.)

Made sense to make season 3 lead up to The Red Wedding and season 4 to be the Royal Wedding and its aftermath to me.
12:11am 12/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4241 posts
Wirlwind i am not sure it was a nod to his obvious intelligence but more a case of putting another lannister in a prominent position while also asserting his authority over Tyrion which he tends to like doing to everyone.

Ill be sad when the hound goes, he is a heartless killer but the guy has a kind of brutal honesty that i kind of respect. Well Bronn had better make an appearance because he has that same kind of matter of fact brutal honesty and i like that in the show.
01:09am 12/06/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17090 posts
This season was way stretched out and would have been much better if all the above happened. They're fucking milking it.


so you want less GoT?
08:31am 12/06/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
823 posts
Wirlwind i am not sure it was a nod to his obvious intelligence but more a case of putting another lannister in a prominent position while also asserting his authority over Tyrion which he tends to like doing to everyone.Ill be sad when the hound goes, he is a heartless killer but the guy has a kind of brutal honesty that i kind of respect. Well Bronn had better make an appearance because he has that same kind of matter of fact brutal honesty and i like that in the show.


Well, sure, there's that too, but the fact that he put him in that position itself (and I think tywin even says something like "I know you can handle it") is more than just a blood thing. Tywin is not stupid, he wouldn't put him in that position if he thought Tyrion dumb.

I think he also sort of throws in a few back handed compliments after showing up at blackwater (the whole "I miss being the hand" time period).
08:37am 12/06/13 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
10036 posts
Hogfather you must be the first person on the entire planet that enjoys Game of Thrones that thinks they are going to slow.

They are going way to fast for my liking, missing way too much stuff. Most people watching only the TV show don't get Jaime Lannister at all (and how complex killing the mad king was). Certainly don't realize just how smart Tryion is (e.g. chain across blackwater). Don't get why the faceless man respected Arya (weasel soup). Aren't aware Maester Aemon (night's watch) is Targaryen, fun thought ... 3 dragons 2 Targaryens known to be alive ... what if there was a Targaryen alive for each dragon ? ... Rhaegar and Lyanna perhaps ? but then people watching the TV show don't get the complicated mess that Cersei, Rhaegar and Lyanna
08:43am 12/06/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
14019 posts
Lots of non-book-readers I know thought the season was a pretty epic yawn until the wedding.

Read the other thread.
Another fine episode of Game of Conversations. But it's pretty to watch. ;)

So no, not the only person on the planet porkchop.
09:00am 12/06/13 Permalink
Creepy
USA
2161 posts
I'd like to visit planet porkchop...mmm...porkchop...
11:38am 12/06/13 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
866 posts
Obes: There are 3 Targaryeans alive.

Dany, Aemon and also Aegon (the baby that was thought to have been killed by Ser Gregor).
11:43am 12/06/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
2069 posts
Just caught ep10.

Thought it was a good wrap-up ep. Though Caitlin resurrection would of been ace cliffhanger.

Non-booked will be shattered when Shae turns out to be a traitorous whore who was only in it for the money the whole time! Unless they're taking a different direction.
09:55pm 14/06/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
3001 posts
I can see them wrenching the guts out of people by making Shae the good girl and through circumstances, Tyrion having to kill her. It would make no difference to the bigger picture but it'll just slap everyone around. I hope it happens!
10:07pm 14/06/13 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
8181 posts
Obes: There are 3 Targaryeans alive.

Dany, Aemon and also Aegon (the baby that was thought to have been killed by Ser Gregor).

Well, it's a bit disputed whether or not Aegon/Griff is actually Aegon, and Aemon is dead now.
11:32am 15/06/13 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
867 posts
Not Griff. In spoilers for Book 6, a letter from Jon Connington arrives (in Dorne) claiming that he still has Aegon with him and looking for support to win back the throne for him.

Though true about Aemon I guess heh.
03:01pm 15/06/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20897 posts
Griff IS Jon Connington though, and young griff is aegon (or implied to be aegon)
04:07pm 15/06/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
3004 posts
Why is it disputed that Griff is Aegon? I can't handle that!
11:49pm 15/06/13 Permalink
existence
Brisbane, Queensland
7406 posts
for people out there like me (and im sure theres quite a few of you) who picked up the books and read the after watching the first or second season on tv(but not going back and reading what youd already watched), i strongly strongly urge you to look up Jon Snows parentage and what happened with Lyanna stark (neds sister) and rhaegar targaryen, and what happened at the Tower of Joy when Roberts Rebellion had basically ended.. Its not really a spoiler because its just a theory, but holy fuck balls its a solid theory, and soooo makes sense if you take the name of the series literally and sorta connect the dots!
04:56pm 16/06/13 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
8183 posts
I read somewhere a while ago that people (readers) were speculating about Young Griff not actually being Aegon, and I remember the evidence being fairly compelling. Can't find anything about it now, so I think I'll just go back to assuming that Young Griff is Aegon.
05:03pm 16/06/13 Permalink
Superform
Netherlands
7757 posts
apparently he is 25% done with book 6 - but splitting books into 2 tv seasons should give him the time he needs to finish 6-7
05:47pm 16/06/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17109 posts
martin recently said in an interview that there's no chance the show will catch up to the books. for him to be so sure i guess he and the show creators have already worked out all of the seasons.
05:51pm 16/06/13 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
868 posts
25% done with Book 6? Given that he figured that he'd probably start off with being 50% done with Book 5 when Book 4 was released (due to splitting the storylines from the 4th book across book 4 and 5) that's not a good sign lol
06:08pm 16/06/13 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
8184 posts
Exi, you're talking about the R+L=J theory, right? I read that a while back, definitely has a lot of evidence. Very cool!
06:47pm 16/06/13 Permalink
existence
Brisbane, Queensland
7407 posts
Exi, you're talking about the R+L=J theory, right? I read that a while back, definitely has a lot of evidence. Very cool!


yeah dude.. im calling it as true haha. and i think aegon really is aegon!!

martin also, as part of his contract, had to tell the producers the plot arcs and character developments for all main characters for the remaining of all the series.. in case he dies
10:31am 17/06/13 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
2086 posts
georgerrmartin-39722.jpg?w=725&h=471
10:34am 17/06/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
14034 posts
Yeh I brought up the R+L=J theory in the last season's spoiler-tag infested thread I think, I reckon its rock solid.

Interesting that Martin has given the producers the synopsis of books to come, I would have thought it would be secret but available if he died, but guess they need the inside goss to plan properly or something.
10:36am 17/06/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
3006 posts
Any link to this theory? /lazy
12:15pm 17/06/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17114 posts
12:49pm 17/06/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
14036 posts
I reckon Sam is Azor for sure. He's going to build a magic burnination sword at the Maester's house and rip shit up.
12:58pm 17/06/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20899 posts
Hrmm, they never really explained any of that in the show I just realised, when Stannis pulled the burning sword out of the fire and stuff
01:02pm 17/06/13 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
1638 posts
Doesnt everyone in the books always remark that Stannis' flaming sword looks really fake, and that Thoros' always looks really real?

Or was it the other way round?

+1 to Sam being Azor Ahai, he fucking smoked that walker.
01:05pm 17/06/13 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
997 posts
Jon can't be azor ahai, didn't he die at the end of book 5?

Or is he going to come back?
01:48pm 17/06/13 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
1640 posts
Pretty sure he's not dead, although with GRRM you never know.
01:49pm 17/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4253 posts
I heard Jon did die but people are speculating that the red woman is going to rez him up. I questioned the fact that currently she has no clue how to rez someone but I was then informed that in the future it is something she intends to "learn".
04:56pm 17/06/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1423 posts
I read a theory that some legend / savior is born of smoke and ham or something and when Jon was stabbed he smoked out of his wounds.
06:29pm 17/06/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20902 posts
Haha, smoke and ham? I thought it was like smoke and snow and salt, and the snow is like Jon Snow and the smoke is cos his wounds were smoking when he got stabbed and the salt is the guy crying while he did it.

But I dunno, that seems flimsy and a bit too airy fairy and metaphorical to be GRRM's style.
06:55pm 17/06/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1424 posts
haha yeah Smoke and Ham rings a bell, maybe because I am hungry. Honestly who knows my theory is that GRRM reads all the theories and then rewrites the books accordingly, hence why it's still years before the book is out.
07:27pm 17/06/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
2074 posts
Stannis definitly isn't azor ahai I think, they mention at length in the book how his sword was fakely set on fire during the ceremony and no real warmth emanates from it, which it's supposed to.

I think Jon Snow being azor ahai is the best theory, especially considering his Stark (First men) and Tageryan descent. Plus the red lady keeps seeing im in her fires.

At the end of the book he's stabbed and his wounds smoke, but he's by no means dead, I reckon he either survives or hes resurrected.
10:09pm 17/06/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17118 posts
plus jon dreamed about fighting the others with a red burning sword.
10:15pm 17/06/13 Permalink
kos
Germany
2756 posts
Apologies if this has already been posted, thought it was pretty cool and that you guys might appreciate it more than this non-GoT watcher:

08:36pm 24/06/13 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
2089 posts
i rate it
09:00pm 24/06/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
14063 posts
Solid 7/10.
10:40pm 24/06/13 Permalink
Lynx
Brisbane, Queensland
1999 posts
he's stabbed and his wounds smoke

But was that his wounds smoking or just steam coming off the hot blood?
None of his wounds have smoked before.
11:25pm 24/06/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
3016 posts
None of them have been fatal. Not that I know how magic works...

GRRM wouldn't of wasted his words and direction of the readers imagination just as a "gotcha" where it just ends up being the steam from the blood hitting snow.
12:03am 25/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4274 posts
ok this might seem a little obvious but how is it worded in the book ... STEAM or fucking SMOKE? I might be going out on a limb here but this may be a bit of a give away.
07:10am 25/06/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17143 posts
i believe it describes his wounds as smoking not steaming.
10:51am 25/06/13 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
7916 posts
Only started watching Game of Thrones recently - I've just finished watching season 1.
It was going great - all these concepts which were dismissed logically, like the fact that noones actually seen a dragon and they're just stories passed down from a friend of a friend of a friend etc.
Then, suddenly dragons... wtf? :(

Also, Joffrey is about as likeable as Draco Malfoy.
10:58am 25/06/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
14065 posts
Only started watching Game of Thrones recently - I've just finished watching season 1.

This is not the thread for you.
11:00am 25/06/13 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
20912 posts
It was going great - all these concepts which were dismissed logically, like the fact that noones actually seen a dragon and they're just stories passed down from a friend of a friend of a friend etc.


Dragons were always real, they just haven't been around for hundreds of years. Thats how the Targaryens originally united the seven kingdoms, cos they had dragons. And the skulls of all their dragons are in the red keep too (its not dwelled on much in the show, but Arya finds them while shes chasing that cat and gets lost).
06:54pm 25/06/13 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
847 posts
Only started watching Game of Thrones recently - I've just finished watching season 1.
It was going great - all these concepts which were dismissed logically, like the fact that noones actually seen a dragon and they're just stories passed down from a friend of a friend of a friend etc.
Then, suddenly dragons... wtf? :(

Also, Joffrey is about as likeable as Draco Malfoy.


They weren't just stories, they talk about how the dragons were used in conquest and there are various mentions about the skulls of the great dragons in the throne room (which got moved out after the war).

Hell, even in the series, Arya hides in one of the skulls during season 1.
07:45pm 25/06/13 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
7918 posts
I figured to that point they were just some other creatures people were claiming were dragons, or they were crafted by someone to help support the story of them.
09:53pm 25/06/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17145 posts
yeah they weren't myth. i think it's mentioned the last dragon died only 100 years ago.
10:06pm 25/06/13 Permalink
Viper119
UK
2095 posts
Have to say, I've really enjoyed the whole approach to magic... the way everyone was like, nah bro, and now it's slowly coming back!

Also some of the conspiracy theories about the maesters and the citadel are pretty interesting! Very new age/science against old age/magic type thing.
04:43am 26/06/13 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7365 posts
classic raven
05:03am 26/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4275 posts
Dude you can't have paid much attention while watching season 1 because Arya stands staring at a dragon skull the size of a small car. You kind of can't miss it, I am a little surprised you came to the conclusions you did as well because there is nothing in the show that should of left you thinking what you did.

weird
08:05am 26/06/13 Permalink
Lynx
Brisbane, Queensland
2000 posts
Here is the passage from the book..
Jon fell to his knees. He found the dagger’s hilt and wrenched it free. In the cold night air the wound was smoking. “Ghost,” he whispered. Pain washed over him.

Take that as you will.

woot, 2k posts
12:13pm 26/06/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4276 posts
Smoking is considerably different to steaming when you think of the context of that as it mentions how cold it was youd think if it was just body heat causing it he certaining would have used the word steam. But hell what do i know about his writting.
05:25pm 26/06/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
9605 posts
I have finally, after many months, caught up to Game of Thrones. I still have episode 10 of Season 3 to watch, but by god is it such an entrancing TV show. I've only ever been so invested in one other fiction and that was Harry Potter but this really hits the nail on the head. Everything just works and everything is just so well done its almost like a movie.

I have a very big feeling that after watching the Red Wedding episode (holy crap that was intense) that this will end in a fight between dragons and white walkers. Those seem to be the only plausible forces left after humans tear each other apart so easily.

Just. Wow.
10:41pm 11/07/13 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
10073 posts
Dragons were always real, they just haven't been around for hundreds of years. Thats how the Targaryens originally united the seven kingdoms, cos they had dragons.

Also the iron throne is Valarian steel forged in dragon's (Baelron's )fire.

People just thought they were extinct.

Also 3 dragons, assuming 1 dragon per Targaryen as is the norm in the books.
Maester Aemon
Daenerys
... and who ?

My vote is John Snow and that he is really the bastard child of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark, making him Daenerys' nephew. Gives him a mix of the Dragon magic and the Children of the Forest/First men.

Maybe him and his aunt hook up for some weird family sex in book 6 or 7, shortly before Arya kills them both ...
10:52pm 11/07/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
9606 posts
Bran is a Warg so maybe the Stark family have magical blood? People thought the dragons were extinct because the last dragon to ever be born was a mutant. Just like how the White Walkers hadn't been seen for thousands of years, people just forget over time and use it to scare children.

I liked the last episode. While it wasn't as powerful as the Red Wedding, it was still a nice wrap up to the high drama. Daenerys is amassing a huge army, but will that be enough when half the army are slaves? Who will train them? Is she hoping to gain all of Westeros as well and just win by pure numbers?
11:58pm 11/07/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
6171 posts
maybe the Stark family have magical blood?

lol

Everyone loves magical Eddard, cos the tricks that he does are ever so clever;
Look at him now, beheading a Crow, where is the Crow's head rolling now...

(Beans lotsa beans lotsa beans lotsa beans...)
12:10am 12/07/13 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
10074 posts
Bran is a Worg so maybe the Stark family have magical blood?

imo That's kind of a given, they are of the first men who spent a lot of time living in and around the Children of the Forest. So the Starks are fairly close to wildings hence the tree dreams and wargs.

p.s. Not sure why Dazhel is laughing, not all Targaryens were linked to Dragons yet their bloodline seemingly lets the occasional one that pops out that can stand in fire and have Dragon buddies.
08:44am 12/07/13 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
1018 posts
imo That's kind of a given, they are of the first men who spent a lot of time living in and around the Children of the Forest. So the Starks are fairly close to wildings hence the tree dreams and wargs.

p.s. Not sure why Dazhel is laughing, not all Targaryens were linked to Dragons yet their bloodline seemingly lets the occasional one that pops out that can stand in fire and have Dragon buddies.


Yeah when Jon starts living with the wildlings doesn't one of the wildling wargs sniff him out as a warg? Jon just doesn't know he is yet?
09:01am 12/07/13 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
8191 posts
Bran is a Worg so maybe the Stark family have magical blood?

All of the Stark kids + Jon are wargs.
10:09am 12/07/13 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
1671 posts
People thought the dragons were extinct because the last dragon to ever be born was a mutant.


Dragons are like goldfish, they grow to fit the size of the tank. The later Targaryens were so scared by the power of the dragons that they raised them in cages and ended up with shitty small ones.

Also re: dragons, don't the Greyjoys have some horn they can blow to control them? I thought Dani had lost control of Drogon, I would guess the allegiances of the dragons are pretty flexible.
10:22am 12/07/13 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7388 posts
Is she hoping to gain all of Westeros as well and just win by pure numbers?

badass slaves bred purely for killing and with zero fear of death + dragons = pretty good odds imo.

I don't think the numbers are necessarily in her favour vs all the houses of westeros but she has lines of troops that would maintain discipline and hold position in the face of anything, backed up by dragons. she's going up against armies that will likely shit themselves and break formation just at the sight of dragons. plus once she's whipped a few arses and houses find out there is a targaryan back and with dragons, they'll prolly be keen to jump on board the winning team. I haven't read the books (don't really care about spoilers, I much prefer this thread) so I'm purely speculating.
01:32pm 12/07/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
6172 posts
p.s. Not sure why Dazhel is laughing


Heh, I didn't mean to laugh at what Eorl said because I agree with the comment. Warging is supernatural/magical whatever you want to call it so the bloodline explanation given as to why they can do that makes sense.
Magical Trevor randomly popped into my head when I read it and it amused me that's all. :)
01:51pm 12/07/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
14159 posts
I haven't read the books (don't really care about spoilers, I much prefer this thread) so I'm purely speculating.

SPOILER: the bitch is still in the desert and won't fucking leave.
02:06pm 12/07/13 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7390 posts
well I figure those scaley motherfuckers take a little while to grow so you wouldn't wanna fly into battle on a tigermoth when you could have a c130.
how hard can it be to get your hands on a few hundred boats?
one thing I have a bit of trouble gauging from the show is the amount of time that is passing over the course of the series. is this much clearer in the books, especially from what I gather it covers the same events from multiple perspectives?
02:18pm 12/07/13 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
10075 posts
I thought Dani had lost control of Drogon

Yeah at around the same time Maester Aemon dies (ie. a Targaryen dies and a dragon goes off the reservation).

So 2 Dragons doing ok, 1 named Targaryen... imo means there is another Targaryen around i.e. Jon
02:32pm 12/07/13 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
10076 posts
p.s. it's all speculation and in actual fact there are bits of dialogue in the books that pretty much rule out that happening, but people lie in these books.
02:33pm 12/07/13 Permalink
Kanti
3 posts
For those that want a little more Game of Thrones: There is The Tales of Dunk and Egg 3 stories of Ser Duncan the Tall and Aegon Targaryen V. Nice reads!
08:23am 27/08/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17832 posts
trailer for season 4! first episode airs april 6.

06:50pm 13/01/14 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
11161 posts
I am ready.
08:35pm 13/01/14 Permalink
qmass
Queensland
10692 posts
april 6? fuuuuuuuuccccck......
03:35am 14/01/14 Permalink
RuleofBooKz
Melbourne, Victoria
847 posts
That is good.

Now how about the next book?

The Winds of Winter (forthcoming) - its been like this since 2011 ;(
04:10am 14/01/14 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4590 posts
april 6? fuuuuuuuuccccck......


Thats exactly what i thought.

On the trailer i see Theon wearing armour?! Are we to assume he gets free and rejoins the fight? Because my limited understanding is that he becomes Reek and is all kinds of fucked up?
06:28am 14/01/14 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
21390 posts
Yeah, I saw that bit with Theon as well, thats odd. Maybe its just a flashback or something going on in his head.
10:40am 14/01/14 Permalink
Pirroh
Melbourne, Victoria
777 posts
Could be when he goes to Moat Cailin
11:07am 14/01/14 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4591 posts
Man I am sad, I have watched that trailer about a dozen times today. I need my GoT fix sooo frigging bad ... damn it I am such an addict lol
02:14pm 14/01/14 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
7348 posts
i hope they don't puss out on the theon storyline & let his sister save him or some bullshit like that.
coz his sister never tried to save him in the books... well except at winterfell & the tv show followed that ok.

also bummed by the april restart of the show... moar now plz !
02:32pm 14/01/14 Permalink
Creepy
USA
2265 posts
Yet another recast this season - Daario.
03:14pm 14/01/14 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
1814 posts
Avoiding the spoilers (Sorry, tvshowfag here) but I figured I'd chime in with 'stand by for a long list of new 'most pirated show' records in April...'

It'd be greaaaay if HBO would cotton on to their 'internet-ship' and distribute the show online.
/never payin for foxtel.
03:28pm 14/01/14 Permalink
Viper119
Other International
2294 posts
The Theon storyline is so dark, I was surprised they did as much as they did in the last season, hopefully they keep it up.
07:04pm 14/01/14 Permalink
Ozzy
Gold Coast, Queensland
337 posts
More Khaleesi tits and I'm happy.
07:19pm 14/01/14 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
10218 posts
The Theon storyline is so dark, I was surprised they did as much as they did in the last season, hopefully they keep it up.

He is a dead end largely in the books, defeated for the most part, but creates a family feud between the the Boltons and the Greyjoys.
In the books they don't mention penis removal or half the violence in the show (or maybe I need to to re-read).
11:16pm 14/01/14 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17917 posts
03:05pm 10/02/14 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
7379 posts
awesome . bring it orn.
03:23pm 10/02/14 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
6400 posts
Hell yes.
03:33pm 10/02/14 Permalink
Ozzy
Gold Coast, Queensland
354 posts
More Weiners!!!

05:12pm 10/02/14 Permalink
WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
1289 posts

He is a dead end largely in the books, defeated for the most part, but creates a family feud between the the Boltons and the Greyjoys.
In the books they don't mention penis removal or half the violence in the show (or maybe I need to to re-read).


From what I've heard of it (I really need to get around to finishing the 4th book...) they allude to the cock chopping, but don't actually go full frontal sausage sever.
06:00pm 10/02/14 Permalink
RuleofBooKz
Melbourne, Victoria
1043 posts
i am excite
06:14pm 10/02/14 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
3134 posts
I've managed to not watch a single preview trailer of the coming season. Feeling good!
06:24pm 10/02/14 Permalink
Viper119
Other International
2321 posts
He is a dead end largely in the books, defeated for the most part, but creates a family feud between the the Boltons and the Greyjoys.
In the books they don't mention penis removal or half the violence in the show (or maybe I need to to re-read).


I remember all the stuff from the show in the books, and more.. like it being pretty dark and horrible with severe torturing (remember the finger chopping and failing?). He's fully consumed by the reek character and it takes a while to reveal reek is him.
08:29pm 10/02/14 Permalink
Ha
Brisbane, Queensland
331 posts
in the fifth book theon reminisces on his torture and laments losing fingers, toes and 'an other thing', that he won't think about.
09:04pm 10/02/14 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17942 posts
new trailer

06:54pm 17/02/14 Permalink
Ozzy
Gold Coast, Queensland
365 posts
Epic!!!!!
08:31pm 17/02/14 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
14965 posts
Fuck that other thread can;t even talk about the fucking TV show freely once its aired! Pack of sooky lala fuckwits.

Taking bets: Next episode Tywin takes it in the belly or a couple more to go?
09:27am 15/04/14 Permalink
Monkeez
Sydney, New South Wales
318 posts
Taking bets: Next episode Tywin takes it in the belly or a couple more to go?

No way, he's going to be in jail for at least a few episodes.
09:34am 15/04/14 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
2245 posts
Fuck that other thread can;t even talk about the fucking TV show freely once its aired! Pack of sooky lala fuckwits.

Taking bets: Next episode Tywin takes it in the belly or a couple more to go?


episode 7 or 9 is called "The mountain and the viper" so it won't be until the end of the season i'd say.

edit: It's episode 8.

31 1 "Two Swords" D. B. Weiss David Benioff & D. B. Weiss April 6, 2014 6.64[25]
23 2 "The Lion and the Rose" Alex Graves George R. R. Martin April 13, 2014 6.30[26]
33 3 "Breaker of Chains"[27] Alex Graves David Benioff & D. B. Weiss April 20, 2014
34 4 "Oathkeeper"[28] Michelle MacLaren Bryan Cogman April 27, 2014
35 5 "First of His Name"[29] Michelle MacLaren David Benioff & D. B. Weiss May 4, 2014
36 6 "The Laws of Gods and Men"[29] Alik Sakharov Bryan Cogman May 11, 2014
37 7 "Mockingbird"[29] Alik Sakharov David Benioff & D. B. Weiss May 18, 2014
38 8 "The Mountain and the Viper"[29] Alex Graves David Benioff & D. B. Weiss June 1, 2014
09:35am 15/04/14 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
7422 posts
hahaha :D i agree... tyrion will have at least one ep in the black cells first.

how many more eps for obyron? he's so dreamy... pity how that turns out :D
09:37am 15/04/14 Permalink
Monkeez
Sydney, New South Wales
319 posts
Actually no, it'll be later than that. Episode 8 is called "The Mountain and the Viper", so Oberyn will be his champion that episode and I'm guessing Tywin will take one in the gut in episode 9.

EDIT: Looks like konstie has already answered this.
09:39am 15/04/14 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
14966 posts
Oh shit yeh forgot about the trial by combat!
As Oberyn prolongs Gregor's death, trying to wring a murder confession from him, the prostrated Clegane manages to grab hold of Oberyn and smash his armoured fist into Oberyn's face, killing him: dashing out his brains after first destroying his teeth and knocking out his eyes

Man that's gonna make some good TV. Wonder how graphic it will be? :)
09:39am 15/04/14 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
2246 posts
dash his pretty little face up.

EDIT: when are we going to see zombie catelyn!?
09:50am 15/04/14 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1971 posts
dash his pretty little face up.

EDIT: when are we going to see zombie catelyn!?


Cliff Hanger EP10 to give people a chance to think ZOMG ROBB STARK IS ALIVE

My Wife is up to S03E05, she has no idea what's coming lol

I got the shits last night because she asked if Joffery dies and I didn't answer it, she said people on facebook had status updates saying 'Thank god the king cunt is dead' so she pretty much assumed what had happened. I went on to PM these people "Tyrion kills Tywin and Shae, Cercie gets locked up and Daenerys rides dragons" lol fuck those loud mouth pricks us book readers have a secret unspoken code to not mention the books in public and these dumb shits watch a little TV and post it all over facebook.
10:35am 15/04/14 Permalink
Viper119
Other International
2367 posts
People are going to lose their shit when zombie catelyn shows up!

I'm regretting deciding to wait until all eps are out before watching, but I'm gonna stick to it.
10:48am 15/04/14 Permalink
Sir Redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
1305 posts
Does it say in the books who gets Joffs sword? Is it Tomen?
10:54am 15/04/14 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
21591 posts
I think Tyrion killing Shae is gonna hit people really hard in the show, because they've built her up far more as a character in the show, and they've made her really nice and made people really feel sorry for her and stuff. Its going to be brutal when/if Tyrion strangles her.

I kinda wish they didn't have to kill Tywin, Charles Dance is so fucking good in pretty much every scene hes in, I dunno who can fill that void.
11:05am 15/04/14 Permalink
Viper119
Other International
2368 posts
Are you sure they kill Shae? I saw something about Tyrion sneaking her out of the city in the show. Bit of a cop out if so, her reveal as nothing but mercurial was quite a blow in the books. Kevin Lannister's death hit me harder then Tywins for some reason.
11:09am 15/04/14 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
2247 posts
Are you sure they kill Shae? I saw something about Tyrion sneaking her out of the city in the show.


I think Bronn has already been bought by Tywin and he simply lied to Tyrion. They don't allude to it in the show - I am going to wager it will be revealed as one of those final betrayals.
11:14am 15/04/14 Permalink
RuleofBooKz
Melbourne, Victoria
1458 posts

yeah as i read i kept waiting for some reveal that Shae was actually some traveling noblewoman or something special from a far off land. More than the simple prostitute she seemed to be. It never happened ;(

and yes id say bronn (pragmatic, thoroughly amoral) was bought by Tywin (as shae was) never put shae on the ship and it will happen in the TV version as it happened in the books

and yes the whole "back from the dead thing" - with katherine stark soon headlining as "madame whispers" is interesting. How the whole balance of powers works is also very interesting as being able to raise the dead is huge. But we also have the for the fire god (lord of lights aka the dark one?) and the divination / see the future thing VS the cold people of the north and their risen dead as undead etc. How does it all relate and fit? like from below:

images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ-ZDsKKj9a6oU6XCCvIew

You know looking for over arc's in theme from the novel. Reminds me of the deathgate cycle where on one world they were using dark magic to raise the dead while on another world the fact dark magic was being used elsewhere was killing off the population and killing the world

However, as with the other worlds, the Sartan mysteriously began to die.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_Gate_Cycle#Pryan.2C_the_world_of_fire

not a mystery - it was the balancing of the use of death magic. So:

With all the mensch dead and Sartan magic stretched to the limit, the Sartan of Abarrach turned to the forbidden arts of necromancy, using the corpses of the dead to supplement a lost workforce. While at the start it seemed a logical (if desperate) move that would help, it proved to be the most critical and tragic mistake of the whole Sartan race, as the dead eventually escaped from Sartan control. But there was an even worse result the use of necromancy had, one far more disastrous for the Sartan: For every life brought back, every soul prevented from passing on, another life ends untimely.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_Gate_Cycle#Abarrach.2C_the_world_of_stone

i wonder is some such things will happen with a song of fire and ice. IT is all about fire and ice after all? life / death etc
01:58pm 15/04/14 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
14969 posts
Tyrion killing Shae will be brutal to watchers, killing off virtuous, noble (and stupid) main characters is one thing, but everyone's favourite imp going dark is another.
02:10pm 15/04/14 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
7423 posts
^ yup, they better not cop out on that.. with some 'soft for tv' sneaking her out of the city.
tyrion finding her in his father's bed & it pushing him over the limit was fkn mindblowing.
I kinda wish they didn't have to kill Tywin, Charles Dance is so fucking good in pretty much every scene hes in, I dunno who can fill that void.

i agree but valar morghulis ! :D
02:16pm 15/04/14 Permalink
RuleofBooKz
Melbourne, Victoria
1459 posts
bearing false witness and the betrayal of his love and obvious regard i think gives Tyrion an acceptable motive against shae. Especially as she is in his fathers bed?

Shae acted very badly whilst ned stark and many others were doing the right thing so their deaths were (should of been?) hard to take. Which is what makes this series so good - oh you were doing the right thing but still got your head chopped off??? Oh dear.

But yeah TV viewers might be a little squeamish and less forgiving of such actions in tyrion who has been portrayed as a very decent moral guy in general. what should be remembered is tyrions morality and ethics only seem good in comparison to the really really bad types around him. He is no golden boy.
02:24pm 15/04/14 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
14973 posts
Its a reasonable motive but murdering Shae won't be considered a reasonable response to most people who see Tyrion as a bit of a diamond in the Lannister family rough. Its dark as fuck if played out properly.
02:40pm 15/04/14 Permalink
Sir Redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
1307 posts
Also, isn't Loras meant to be in the Kings guard? How is that going to work?
03:06pm 15/04/14 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
21593 posts
I was assuming he'll end up joining the kingsguard to get out of marrying cersei
03:47pm 15/04/14 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1973 posts
But yeah TV viewers might be a little squeamish and less forgiving of such actions in tyrion who has been portrayed as a very decent moral guy in general. what should be remembered is tyrions morality and ethics only seem good in comparison to the really really bad types around him. He is no golden boy


They will build up his hate for his family over the next few episodes, especially with the conversations he has with Jamie in the cells, I can see the scene now he grabs the crossbow sees shae in his fathers bed who everyone knows despises whores, people will be cheering Tyrion for his actions not feel squeamish!

Cersei gets arrested never gets married to Loras...

This is the book thread right?
04:54pm 15/04/14 Permalink
Viper119
Other International
2369 posts
Yeah remember there's the reveal about his wife and the whole, they told him she was a whore and a trick, but then she actually wasn't a whore and it wasn't a trick - that was messed up!
05:59pm 15/04/14 Permalink
HERMITech
Brisbane, Queensland
8472 posts
I seriously don't recall the Oberon being gay in the books.
07:35pm 15/04/14 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
2251 posts
Its a reasonable motive but murdering Shae won't be considered a reasonable response to most people who see Tyrion as a bit of a diamond in the Lannister family rough. Its dark as fuck if played out properly.


I think I recall they glimpse Shae in a bed during the trailers. Haven't seen that scene play out on GoT yet . . . so I'm going to wager she DEAD.
08:00am 16/04/14 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
6441 posts
so I'm going to wager she DEAD.


like -so- dead, like OMG dead...
08:44am 16/04/14 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
2252 posts
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08:56am 16/04/14 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
6442 posts
09:15am 16/04/14 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4645 posts
Fuck that other thread can;t even talk about the fucking TV show freely once its aired! Pack of sooky lala fuckwits.

Taking bets: Next episode Tywin takes it in the belly or a couple more to go?


Thats why i changed the topic title, if they dont like it that can fuck off out of it.
09:27am 16/04/14 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1985 posts
After watching the first two episodes of season four, I catch Lord Tywin informing someone to bring Shae to his tower, not long after that Tyrion get's Bronn to ship her off, I feel Tywin definitely has her locked up in his keep.
07:33am 17/04/14 Permalink
Justmatel
Sydney, New South Wales
16 posts
I cant wait for whats in stall next
11:19am 17/04/14 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
18086 posts
there's a companion book coming out in october called "The World of Ice and Fire: The Untold History of Westeros and the World of Game of Thrones."

If the past is prologue, then George R. R. Martin's masterwork—the most inventive and entertaining fantasy saga of our time—warrants one hell of an introduction. At long last, it has arrived with The World of Ice and Fire.

This lavishly illustrated volume is a comprehensive history of the Seven Kingdoms, providing vividly constructed accounts of the epic battles, bitter rivalries, and daring rebellions that lead to the events of A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO's Game of Thrones. In a collaboration that's been years in the making, Martin has teamed with Elio M. García, Jr., and Linda Antonsson, the founders of the renowned fan site Westeros.org—perhaps the only people who know this world almost as well as its visionary creator.

Collected here is all the accumulated knowledge, scholarly speculation, and inherited folk tales of maesters and septons, maegi and singers. It is a chronicle which stretches from the Dawn Age to the Age of Heroes; from the Coming of the First Men to the arrival of Aegon the Conqueror; from Aegon's establishment of the Iron Throne to Robert’s Rebellion and the fall of the Mad King, Aerys II Targaryen, which has set into motion the "present-day" struggles of the Starks, Lannisters, Baratheons, and Targaryens. The definitive companion piece to George R. R. Martin's dazzlingly conceived universe, The World of Ice and Fire is indeed proof that the pen is mightier than a storm of swords.


and here's an image from the book of aegon the conqueror atop balerion the black dread

09:21pm 18/04/14 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
21613 posts
Thats a fucking big dragon
10:19pm 18/04/14 Permalink
Wrecktim
Perth, Western Australia
915 posts
so is jon snow dead or what? it talks about him not feeling the 4th dagger then just stops. the story seems to get further and further away from an ending i just hope he doesn't rush to it.
11:21pm 18/04/14 Permalink
Enska
Sydney, New South Wales
2273 posts
diverging a bit from the current speculation about where the next book is going.
I'm loving the hate towards the people who haven't read the books and wanted to stay away from spoilers, most of which I haven't seen in here. Only to see the know it all book readers jump into both threads with the knowledge and then crack shits at the tv people for not wanting to know spoilers?
You know who you are, and imo some/most of you should know much better than that to jump on such a high horse.

slightly blown away by such higher than thou crap over a series of novels, regardless of how big they have become.
11:29pm 18/04/14 Permalink
RuleofBooKz
Melbourne, Victoria
1473 posts
we might need you to name names. its not really an effective scolding if its not done properly
12:52am 19/04/14 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
14983 posts
I'm loving the hate towards the people who haven't read the books and wanted to stay away from spoilers, most of which I haven't seen in here. Only to see the know it all book readers jump into both threads with the knowledge and then crack shits at the tv people for not wanting to know spoilers?

Book spoilers are off limits in the TV thread, and that's been understood from go. The real mean elitist book shit is a joke, dorkface.

People who complain about TV content being spoiled should stay away from the fucking thread until they are up to date! Its really not a hard thing to do and I refuse to feel sad because super stupid people read GoT threads on a Monday when they haven't watched the ep yet. Fuck, I know what's coming, but don't like to have TV eps spoiled and I somehow manage it just fine ... actually you are right, I do feel superior to people who are seriously stupid enough to read GoT threads on a Monday if they are trying to avoid spoliers.

I think its a fair call.
01:21am 19/04/14 Permalink
Creepy
USA
2317 posts
image
02:09am 19/04/14 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4650 posts

Book spoilers are off limits in the TV thread, and that's been understood from go. The real mean elitist book shit is a joke, dorkface.

People who complain about TV content being spoiled should stay away from the fucking thread until they are up to date! Its really not a hard thing to do and I refuse to feel sad because super stupid people read GoT threads on a Monday when they haven't watched the ep yet. Fuck, I know what's coming, but don't like to have TV eps spoiled and I somehow manage it just fine ... actually you are right, I do feel superior to people who are seriously stupid enough to read GoT threads on a Monday if they are trying to avoid spoliers.

I think its a fair call.


I cant disagree with that its pretty simple logic. Its not like the tv show thread is a review where people give impressions of the episode without going in to any kind of depth its there to talk about what happened and you cant do that without revealing what actually took place. I dont want to sit about for half a frigging week waiting for all the slow pokes to get up to speed, its bullshit.
06:12am 19/04/14 Permalink
Viper119
Other International
2376 posts
What's the point of even reading the TV thread if you haven't seen the latest episode? Discussing the episodes is what the threads for! It can't operate on a time-delay just for each individual person's viewing schedule, so it operates on the when the episode is aired schedule. All seems pretty logical and fair to me.
10:28am 19/04/14 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4652 posts
What's the point of even reading the TV thread if you haven't seen the latest episode? Discussing the episodes is what the threads for! It can't operate on a time-delay just for each individual person's viewing schedule, so it operates on the when the episode is aired schedule. All seems pretty logical and fair to me.


Exactly
11:18am 19/04/14 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
6801 posts
12:16pm 19/04/14 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
1934 posts
Where's Strong Belwas and his dump of victory?! BAH!
12:05pm 22/04/14 Permalink
Sir Redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
1310 posts
Where's Strong Belwas and his dump of victory?! BAH!


Yeah I was a bit sad when Strong Belwas didn't show up with Selmy. Such a cool character.
01:03pm 22/04/14 Permalink
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