What the hell? The government has decided to put 20p on soft drinks in the UK so people don't get fat and won't by as much. Do you agree? I don't. I know kids and people shouldn't drink as much but the people are gonna get robbed. They won't stop buying the drinks, it will be the same except that the government will be few billions richer. The government says that they'll make use of the money for schools and hospitals...
I would like to see more drinks made like pepsi next where they are encouraged to at least reduce the amount of sugar in softdrinks. Most sugar free drinks taste like ass but a hybrid system is surely a step in the right direction.
Kinda on topic, this is a great read on the NYT about the Junk Food industry, and how in 1999 all the CEOs of Kraft, Cadbury, etc etc, came together about a meeting on the obesity issue. It's a long read, but well worth it and very interesting.
I think it's a fair enough move to start taxing soft drink. If it's leading to more cases of diabetes etc, and the money isn't being wasted (unlikely :( ) then I support the move to invest in education and public health, even though I do drink my own fair share of coke.
Soft drink companies say that they are trying to find a way to reduce sugar in soft drinks... It's parents fault? I mean, they shouldn't let children buy so many soft drinks.
But the thing is the government always say that they'll do this and do that but they actually never do it or in a long time. lol
Research has shown that taxes (increased cost of product) are a deterrent. But it needs to be substantial. 20cents wont do shit.
well, more like 50cents, this dude is from the UK
also, I dont see the soft drinks that most people think of as soft drinks (coke, pepsi, fanta etc) as the problem, it is the sugary drinks that are just as bad,
Ice'd teas, loaded with sugar, vit waters sports drinks, flavoured "waters" energy drinks*
the above are often picked by unkowning people as the healthier choice, maybe we should look at taxing those choices etc, al la alco-pops,
*check the sugar content on some of those energy drinks, those are loaded
Two questions:
1. Is the tax the same on a 600ml bottle, 375ml can and 2L bottle?
2. Are sugar free and diet soft drinks, such as Pepsi Max and Coke Zero exempt?
I'm all neauseuous and shit just threw up, but this thread made me think: if they make the magazines so glossy and shiny I mean they are DESIGNED to make you wanna look at them, so it can't be rude to read a magazine over someone's shoulder on the bus because of the psychology.
Somehow apply to soft drinks
Yeh sugar for kids freaks me the fuck out. We avoid it.
Would love to get greazy's thoughts (or someone else with a with a hard science biology background) on Dr Lustig's links with high-sugar diets and metabolic syndrome. It comes to mind because he says that feeding your kids sugary drinks is essentially as damaging as booze, just doesn't get you wasted. His presentation about sugar being a poison has become pretty famous:
Nature had a very good OP ED article about sugar and it's toxic affect (highly emotive language but it's OP ED). http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v482/n7383/full/482027a.html (actually, it's written by the same guy in your video Hogfather). The top comment in the article is very insightful and shows there are other factors in play.
I'd like to point out that fructose is a form of sugar (this is important because the US uses fructose) but I guess when people say sugar they mean glucose.
Personally I think sugar is amazing. Fuck people and fuck them for trying to ban my sugar. But in truth that's not happening, people are realising that drinking nothing but coke all day is bad for you. I don't do that but I still enjoy my pop some nights. It boils down to a simple statement that has been echoed for ages now: Too much of anything is not good for you. In this case, sugar (all forms of it), should be eaten in moderation. But we already know this shit.
P.S I would like to mention that this isn't my field of expertise (actually I dont really have a field of expertise). You should do your own research. Visit ncbi.nlm.nih.gov click the drop down menu and select PMC (pubmed central) all articles are open access.
It boils down to a simple statement that has been echoed for ages now: Too much of anything is not good for you. In this case, sugar (all forms of it), should be eaten in moderation. But we already know this shit.
You eat in excess of what your body can metabolise, you get fat. You get fat, you become unhealthy. You become too unhealthy, you welcome diseases and disorders into your life. I have zero sympathy for overweight or obese people that develop issues linked to their weight.
But putting a tax on soft drinks isn't really hitting the nail on the head. Everyone can enjoy fast food, soft drinks and just about anything else and not gain weight. Perfect example; (IIFYM). There should just be more education about moderation.
I'd like to point out that fructose is a form of sugar (this is important because the US uses fructose) but I guess when people say sugar they mean glucose.
The problem with the term 'sugar' is that most people don't understand that there are different types of sugars, and they behave differently. An equally problematic issue is that food packaging laws don't require a distinction.
You'll generally find athletes to have a better understanding of glucose, sucrose, fructose and dextroce than most average people, but even then my understanding is far from perfect.
The problem with the term 'sugar' is that most people don't understand that there are different types of sugars, and they behave differently. An equally problematic issue is that food packaging laws don't require a distinction.
You'll generally find athletes to have a better understanding of glucose, sucrose, fructose and dextroce than most average people, but even then my understanding is far from perfect.
Haha you've proven your own point. Dextrose IS glucose. It's another name for glucose. But moving on, what's really important is knowing how they affect your body, which is not simple.
When will parents be responsible for their own children and when will adults be responsible for themselves?
I see kids in a supermarket asking their parents for a piece of fruit such as a Mango or a punnet of Raspberries and they look at the price and go "Nope too much, go grab a chocolate bar for $0.99", I see fat parents with fat children loading their trolley up with shit food. Why should I have to pay more taxes on a bottle of soft drink I have once in a blue moon because idiots like I just mentioned are too retarded or cheap?
Maybe we should just tax the fat and lazy people just like smokers get taxed for being a smoker.
Tobacco is heavily taxed and that doesn't stop people smoking, they just buy the cheaper shit.
More education on sugar in food/drinks and let the people decide for themselves
I'll feed your kids whatever i want damnit.My candy truck isn't for pedofelia, it's to create that addiction which will sustain my candy industry ! Hooray!
Sorry i havent got kids. but yeah its the sweets and candy too. the sugar should be .reduced but the price shouldnt be changef . And if u open store, i might visit but with only 99 percent off!
^ Just wait for the advertising... It will come... probably something passive... 'I used this website to purchase my sugar & tax free drinks, you guys should check it out'.
also lol @ the signature...
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In the body yes, but it food no. Sucrose is the main form of sugar added to foods in aus. You're right though about USA, they have a variety of different forms of sugar they use instead of sucrose such as fructose and that HFCS.
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