In news that will shock everyone, Lance Armstrong has finally come out and said he cheated.
Lance Armstrong ADMITTED to Oprah Winfrey ... he DID use performance-enhancing drugs during his pro cycling career to win the Tour de France ... this according to the Associated Press.
Lance wrapped up his one-on-one interview with Oprah just a few hours ago ... and according to the report, Lance finally 'fessed up to cheating ... the first time he's ever admitted wrongdoing during his professional career.
The way Lance worded his admission could have serious legal ramifications -- considering he's facing possible criminal prosecution and civil liability for allegedly lying about his PED use in a number of legal proceedings.
I saw a show on Doping in cycling a few years ago and its just out of control.
Some of them store their blood months before a race then train up hard then put that blood back in before they race.
the kind of foods they eat, drinks, tricks to remove traces of drugs.
Its almost Sci-fi.
The only way to stop it is to test more frequently but even then it can be difficult to find what you dont know they are using. Storing test and testing years later is kind of pointless.
You cant compete in Modern Elite Sport without having your own medical team.
That would have to be administered by a new body to make sure they all receive the same type and dosage. Otherwise there'd be drug cheats among the drugged up athletes trying for that extra edge.
So they'd still have to be tested. Creates an interesting conundrum doesn't it. Where does it stop?
Let them fight it out with their own drugs. Then you can use those advancements in drug/performance and hopefully apply it to medical needs or normal people wanting to get a little bit fitter.
Like some performance/safety enhancements from the race cars eventually make their way into the design/performance of regular street cars.
cycling fast approaching soccer for sports that are ruined.
He must have really had the overwhelming sense of guilt playing on his mind. He must feel alot better telling the truth, does this mean he can be asked to pay back prize money or what?
I hope he gets sued for every sponsorship dollar and bit of prizemoney given such to a point he has to declare himself bankrupt.
Best case scenario would be if the tapes from the Opera show get subpoenas before they're aired or anything is destroyed and used to take him for perjury.
This guy and others have done so much to get us all painted as drug cheats - everyone in the sport. I'd just like to state right now, that as a board member and Cross Country Rider Representative of Mountain Bike Australia we have not, to my knowledge (and I believe this is correct anyway) had a single member been found guilty of performance enhancing drug use in the last ten years.
My understanding is that there's been about maybe 20 in Cycling Australia found in the last few years, but probably a similar period.
All the time, effort and money put into finding out if this guy cheated or not could be much better spent doing much more productive things, like maybe dealing with HSBC?
I'd just like to state right now, that as a board member and Cross Country Rider Representative of Mountain Bike Australia we have not, to my knowledge (and I believe this is correct anyway) had a single member been found guilty of performance enhancing drug use in the last ten years.
Spoken like a true politician. no conviction only means you may have good cheats.
I don't think any appearance/sponsor money should be paid back, this is basically advertising cash and the got what they paid for at the time. Performance bonus/winnings is another story.
All the time, effort and money put into finding out if this guy cheated or not could be much better spent doing much more productive things, like maybe dealing with HSBC?
Such a messy business prosecuting corporations though, it's much easier for the US DOJ to simply declare HSBC as being above the law.
bah.. its stupid to suggest he should give money back
i watched the vid of the guy who outed him and he was asked if he thinks doping is still happening.. he said no..
his proof... look at the times... when doping kicked off times drastically reduced
back in lances day EVERYONE was doping.. lance was still best.. and the playing field was even cause everyone doped.. anyone who could stay with the peloton and said they didnt dope is full of shit.. it wasnt physically possible..
and times today are around the same.. so doping hasnt gone anywhere.. its just harder to detect..
I ride a bike does this mean i can take moar drugs?!?!?!?!
Srsly though what facey was saying is true and lance had the ultimate team of doctors and shit together to make it happen, apparently they would take the blood well in advance and everyone would be tested before the races to for blood count so they knew how much to put in without going over the threshold thst will get you busted
Apparently on the rest days during the tour his team would be whisked away by helicopter to some location where they would have blood transfusions
back in lances day EVERYONE was doping.. lance was still best.. and the playing field was even cause everyone doped.. anyone who could stay with the peloton and said they didnt dope is full of shit.. it wasnt physically possible..
Sorry but that doesn't make it OK to let it happen and not try to stop it. What he did is wrong, end of story.
what this really shows is that the testing isn't working
was he caught cheating, no, and he must have been one of the most tested sports persons on the planet yet was never caught,
it took someone to talk before this all came out into the open (even tho many thought he was cheating), also, how many other cyclists in the last race have now gotten away without the press pressure?
I think it's about time raven fessed up to how he really got that national title..
It was 46 degrees or something stupid and the guy leading the race pushed too hard and slashed both tyres open. Pretty simple really ;)
Haven't decided if I'll compete this year.
i'll laugh if he admits to taking recreational drugs and not performance enhancing drugs.
I've certainly raised a lot of eyebrows from stuff I've put on sical media with my pro-rec-drugs jokes. Even though I don't do anything myself, you'd certainly think I did from many of the comments I make. Don't worry, it's all BS and just for laughs though.
The St Kilda cycling club supposedly had drug testing going on last week. It was some sort of crit comp I think.
StKCC had an Elite crit where all the big names were there. I believe even some riders in B and C grade were tested. Pretty infrequent occurrence though. It's rare as hell for anyone to be tested at a club crit.
Don't fool yourself about them taking it seriously though. I've been in the same room as the CA president and CEO talking about how seriously they're taking drug cheating, and frankly my impression is "not very".
Club level doping seems so fucking retarded to me that I can understand not taking it seriously. But surely as you move into the elite ranks they must care a bit.
Do you mean overall or at club level?Club level doping seems so fucking retarded to me that I can understand not taking it seriously. But surely as you move into the elite ranks they must care a bit.
You would be surprised to know that there are some people taking drugs at club level. Its so pointless though! I mean just to pick up your weekly pocket money by winning the weekly club crit? what a joke lol. I think at club level though you really have to worry about those dickheads that go for a suicide run on the inside of a corner or who sprint for 50th place.... Thank god everyone in A grade is usually reasonably safe.
given how long it has been going on at the very highest level, what makes you think that any governing body worldwide takes the issue seriously? their ridiculously boring sport has seen stratospheric popularity levels over the past decade+ based on some perceived level of excitement surrounding these superstar riders. your sport is suddenly inexplicably relevant and you're going to crackdown on the only thing making it so? I don't think so.
Well the fact that over 7 years since his last tdf win the US anti doping agency submitted a report over 1000 pages long to prove Armstrong was guilty?
If they didn't care you would think they would just let it go. A lot of lawyers would have made a lot of money putting that case together.
@Taqtik, I wouldn't be surprised to find out some people are doing it, at club level, more the fact that anybody would bother to test B or C graders.
Fuck C grade just isn't that competitive, if you need to dope to be in it move on with your life, cycling wasn't your calling.
So apparently Lance Armstrong drops fruit on the track that powers up other cyclists, and has a laboratory at home where he works on a serum to make the Hulk. I hope they touch on these things in the interview.
they need to have a full-on anything goes sporting league where any drug or cybernetics are allowed. then maybe sport wouldn't be so fukn boring.
That's what I say too. I say who cares, let all sportsmen & women go crazy with the drugs. Not sure on the cybernetics thing though, don't quite think we're at crysis nanosuit stages yet.
It's interesting that Lance Armstrong's cycling fruit caused the other cyclists to power up instead of causing them to spin out like when fruit gets throw around the track in Mario Kart.
That's what I say too. I say who cares, let all sportsmen & women go crazy with the drugs. Not sure on the cybernetics thing though, don't quite think we're at crysis nanosuit stages yet.
Maybe not nano suit but those swimming trunks got banned a few years ago.
they need to have a full-on anything goes sporting league where any drug or cybernetics are allowed.
then maybe sport wouldn't be so fukn boring.
i read a little bit about the history of doping.. it would seem that it was not such a silly idea back a time ago - endure or die trying for the enjoyment of bystanders
if you had an official sporting even for people on drugs, then how do you decide who is allowed access to the drugs (or is that part of the competition - whoever can get their hands on the best gear?) - none of the 1st world country sports people would last more than a single competition without police on their tail
To make sport exciting, we need to bring back real gladiator competitions! Or just watch Spartacus instead of cycling
I'd love to see a augmented olympics, just how far can people stretch their physical limits.
Unfortunately there are countries around the world that would severe hardship on their entrants.
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