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Intel's war on Pay TV
do0b
Brisbane, Queensland
4486 posts
Source

Intel is planning to deliver cable content to any device with an Internet connection. And instead of having to pay $80 a month for two hundred channels you don't want, you'll be able to subscribe to specific channels of your choosing.





This set-top box, said by industry insiders to be available to a limited beta of customers in March, will offer cable channels delivered “over the top” to televisions anywhere there is an Internet connection regardless of provider. (Microsoft Mediaroom, for example, requires AT&T’s service, and Xbox has limited offerings for Comcast and FiOS customers). For the first time, consumers will be able to subscribe to content per channel, unlike bundled cable services, and you may also be able to subscribe per show as well. Intel’s set-top box will also have access to Intel’s already existing app marketplace for apps, casual games, and video on demand. Leveraging the speed of current broadband, and the vast shared resources of the cloud, Intel plans to give customers the ability to use “Cloud DVR”, a feature intended to allow users to watch any past TV show at any time, without the need to record it ahead of time, pause live tv, and rewind shows in progress.



Sounds pretty damn cool. As a consumer this is definately something i would be interested in, particularly subscribing to a single show or series. I think this is a pretty good step towards dealing with piracy.

there is another article here which talks about the reasons this idea might fail and the hefty resistance Intel will face from content providers.
01:09pm 02/01/13 Permalink
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IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
1357 posts
Can I go one better and simply subscribe to shows, not channels?
01:21pm 02/01/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13296 posts
Can I go one better and simply subscribe to shows, not channels?

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For the first time, consumers will be able to subscribe to content per channel, unlike bundled cable services, and you may also be able to subscribe per show as well.


???!!!?!?!?!

:P
01:24pm 02/01/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
3985 posts
Anything that puts more control in the hands of the consumer is a step in the right direction as far as i am concerned. Personally id like to see the death of normal comercial tv since i am completely over having the when and where of my viewing being dictated to me by a*******.

It also angers me greatly with the introduction of digital tv giving comercial access to more channels they have seen fit to use many of those channels to simply increase the presents of f*****g infomercials. So f***'em the sooner they die off the better.
01:27pm 02/01/13 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
7583 posts
Great, but how about instead all these faffing external boxes you come up with an interconnect standard that would allow this functionality to be embedded in to a TV - either as a daughterboard or with some kind of standard interface?

How is it that every single device out there falls short and gets things wrong?
01:27pm 02/01/13 Permalink
Zak
Brisbane, Queensland
2948 posts
Hi Foxtel - please take notice so I can start subscribing to individual channels rather than packages.

kthx
01:28pm 02/01/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
16455 posts
sounds good but i doubt we will get it here in australia any time soon considering we haven't even got hulu or netflix yet.
01:32pm 02/01/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
3986 posts
Raven how many boxes do you currently have in your house providing you with your media/entertainment needs? Personally another box doesnt matter a s*** to me because if it offers the choices in viewing i want ill b ehappy to clear a spot on my tv unit for it.
01:33pm 02/01/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
3987 posts
I have netflix at my place in the US and i spend more time watching that than i do the cable tv we have. Thats is kind of suprising to be honest because netflix doesnt actually have that big of a range of viewing to choose from but at $7 a month i wont complain.
01:38pm 02/01/13 Permalink
Nathan
Brisbane, Queensland
4127 posts
Seems like an odd market for Intel to try to enter
01:42pm 02/01/13 Permalink
scuzzy
Brisbane, Queensland
15548 posts
Hi Foxtel - please take notice so I can start subscribing to individual channels rather than packages.
I was hoping they would use this model for Foxtel on xbox 360, the stupid a******* make you buy a base package and then entertainment/sport/movies packages to get anything of use. You're paying for the infrastructure and the hardware, There's no need for packages in this setup.

I don't think per channel is enough anyway, needs per show/series purchasing options.
01:57pm 02/01/13 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
7584 posts
Raven how many boxes do you currently have in your house providing you with your media/entertainment needs? Personally another box doesnt matter a s*** to me because if it offers the choices in viewing i want ill b ehappy to clear a spot on my tv unit for it.


Okay, let's see:
Out in the main room we've got a big LCD with a WD Live (v2), BD player, DVD player, VCR, PVR, Xbox and Amp.
Out back there's an LCD with a DVD player, Wii and WD Live (v1).
In my room there's an LCD with a PS3 and PVR... blah blah, you get the idea.

For my new house I've bought a a TV and 7.1 system that has all those features again (each), then there's the PVR, PS3 and other bits and pieces that will be attached to it.

We have eleventy billion different devices to do different things, on top of the newer TVs having many of these features built in. And for the most part, none of them do a perfect job.
02:25pm 02/01/13 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
2895 posts
I have netflix at my place in the US and i spend more time watching that than i do the cable tv we have. Thats is kind of suprising to be honest because netflix doesnt actually have that big of a range of viewing to choose from but at $7 a month i wont complain.
Quickflix is $16 a month here and they charge you $5 a month to stream the very same movies they will deliver to your door via snail mail for free. That's the problem I see with things like this, it will be too expensive and too restrictive to be worth it in Australia.

It's not the device that matters, it's the service and they are limited heavily by outdated licensing setups. No matter what technology intel bring they won't be able to get around that hurdle.
02:25pm 02/01/13 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7043 posts
I think it's probably safe to throw out the vcr by now dude
02:30pm 02/01/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
13239 posts
I would be interested in the per-series option. If it was at a reasonable NON-AUSTRALIAN-TAX price. That is I'm willing to go 10% higher than the US price but no more if GST is involved.
02:36pm 02/01/13 Permalink
Mantorok
Brisbane, Queensland
6729 posts
So "Intel's war on pay TV" = Intel making pay TV less s***.
02:44pm 02/01/13 Permalink
scuzzy
Brisbane, Queensland
15550 posts
Quickflix is $16 a month here and they charge you $5 a month to stream the very same movies they will deliver to your door via snail mail for free
I'm confused by your wording, are you saying it is more expensive to stream than post (website pricing) or is this only a special scenario for the pay per play movies (new releases) and you pay a premium to stream those on top of the regular subscription costs?

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02:45pm 02/01/13 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
2897 posts
For new releases they charge you $5 for a 48 hour license on top of your subscription. They will mail the very same new release movie to your door though as part of your already included subscription.
03:08pm 02/01/13 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
9719 posts
Foxtel is copping an absolute caning over the new Movie channels.
The old Movie Network is gone and due to some Movie agreements ending Foxtel is basically providing the Showtime package spread over 10 channels forming 2 packages.
Foxtel is demanding lower prices and the Movie houses are holding out.

As such Subs on the full Movies package are paying full price for half the Movies. The upside is all movie channels are now HD and dont carry watermarks.

This box might work in America but it has no hope here.
Foxtel has too much content sewed up and this box wont have Sport at least not AFL/NRL.
Internet TVs dont need a box.
The big crunch is coming though and Foxtel knows it.
03:12pm 02/01/13 Permalink
jaydub
Gold Coast, Queensland
116 posts
What about data usage? I use foxtel on my smart tv and it chews through a lot... all unmetered from bigpond but if you only had 50gb per month and its not unmetered content, you'd be screwed o.O
03:28pm 02/01/13 Permalink
scuzzy
Brisbane, Queensland
15552 posts
For new releases they charge you $5 for a 48 hour license on top of your subscription.
Gotcha, cheers.
03:45pm 02/01/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
3988 posts
Deadly my missus got netflix back when it first kicked off and it remains at $7 a month. We were getting dvds sent out but have since stopped doing that since they split the streaming and dvd mail service.

I dont know all the ins and outs but i do know its costs so little that i get reasonable bang for my buck.
04:01pm 02/01/13 Permalink
Nerf Lord
Brisbane, Queensland
7115 posts
Hrm, judging by my steam experience, I'm happy to pay for what I currently pirate if there is a decent supply mechanism, but who even has a tv under the age of 30, needs a pc-based software platform ftw.
05:24pm 02/01/13 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1091 posts
The problem with pay tv and movies is the companys who hold the licences to the things want a permeium price for it and so does the content provider (Austar/Foxtel). We will never get anywhere with things in this current state especially in Ausfailure.

I just need a browser/software based thing I can log onto and subscribe to channels and/or specific shows and pay a flat fee per month. Also having unlimited data or 250gb+ would be useful for this.
06:32pm 02/01/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
3989 posts
I could go for something like that, pay a $5 or $10 sub per month to the history channel (example) and get access to all their channels and programs past and present without all the bulls*** of pay tv. Of course if they wanted to fill it full of f*****g ads id just s*** can them.
07:13pm 02/01/13 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
6220 posts
SOLD!

Foxtel is medieval.

... also why be a greedy c*** and charge me for pay tv and then put commercials in it!?
08:10pm 02/01/13 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
9720 posts
Dont underestimate Foxtel.
They are working on their 'own Netflix' (oh no Ive said too much)

iQ3 will be out Q2
http://www.pace.com/global/our-portfolio/set-top-box/cable/dpc5000/

http://www.pace.com/Global/Images/Products/Page/1208_dzx5000_large.jpg

up to 2 Tb
Thats a lot of content.


08:58pm 02/01/13 Permalink
HERMITech
Brisbane, Queensland
8105 posts

I tried Big Pond's HD movie content, just to see what it was like recently and was completely underwhelmed.

I've seen R5 release's of better visual quality (seriously, this had massive digital grain on not just black scenes) and no surround sound, just stereo.

Not doing it again anytime soon.
01:24am 03/01/13 Permalink
DecayingCorpse
Brisbane, Queensland
2112 posts
For the first time, consumers will be able to subscribe to content per channel, unlike bundled cable services


hallelujah.
i'm sick of being approched by foxtel knobs in the shops asking if i want paytv when i want 4-6 channels only. "sorry sir we can't do that" FOAD.

hey foxtel, give the people what they want!
12:11pm 03/01/13 Permalink
Sc00bs
Brisbane, Queensland
9110 posts
wouldnt a company rather have some money from people subscribing to individual shows, then just download everything?


f***** whingy c****... times are changing, they have to change with it.

No-one wants to pay 80$+ a month to watch re-runs and ads about the f***** kardashians
12:18pm 03/01/13 Permalink
simul
Brisbane, Queensland
1472 posts
For the first time, consumers will be able to subscribe to content per channel, unlike bundled cable services


The curious thing is how media companies are going to be pressured into it - popular channels pay for the niche ones - so I would imagine with this model things like history channel going away (sad face).

Seems like an odd market for Intel to try to enter


Yes, its definitely an odd market indeed. Intel isn't really big on the consumer electronics product side let alone making content deals. Maybe they are partnering with someone who is good on the consumer electronics product side :) And maybe who already has deals with media companies :) And maybe who has shown in the past their ability to change the media companies business model (and convince them to jump on board) :) And maybe that partner company has rumours of their own of "nailing the TV space" :)

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/01/mac_intel_handshake.jpg

Just sayin :)
12:23pm 03/01/13 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
34851 posts
while foxtel has sport, they wont be going anywhere. im quite happy to pay foxtels price so i can get my sport.
12:29pm 03/01/13 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
9723 posts
I suspect that even if premium channels can be offered seperately they wont be cheap.

Have you noticed how tough it is to order Chicken seperately at KFC ?
They just want to sell you Fries and Gravy and Drinks, extras/side dishes.
PayTV works by the subscriber buying more than they need, extras/side dishes to offset the cost of what they really want.

PayTV is the same all over the World.
The single channel fantasy you all want doesnt exist.
PayTV here is too expensive and doesnt have enough channels.
Thats the only difference to the World, that and of course, Competition.

12:59pm 03/01/13 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
20962 posts
what spook said
06:56pm 03/01/13 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
34857 posts
heards <3
07:51pm 03/01/13 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
3616 posts
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/01/mac_intel_handshake.jpg

Just sayin :)



in this photo, i see a false god, and a fat stig
07:53pm 03/01/13 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
20963 posts
<3

but I roll in HD and will always have fox whilst they have most of the sport
07:54pm 03/01/13 Permalink
boba
Cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
3745 posts
Only tards who can't afford foxtel complain about it.. Long live foxsports in hd.
08:04pm 03/01/13 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
34859 posts
lulz, but the ads!? and ITS SO EXPESNIVE!!?!?!?!?
08:48pm 03/01/13 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
3621 posts
i'm with spook here, the foxtel of 10 years ago was a little worth it, as you had less ads than tv (and they seemed to be like SBS's way, only at the begining middle and end, not 4 times in a 30 minute block

Ad's pay for the content and upkeep of equipment for normal free to air,
the equipment used for foxtel isn't that costly anymore (those settop boxes are no doubt paid for in the first few months) in the case of cable, that s*** has been paid for, and the upkeep low. and while I love the sport, fat chance of me getting to watch much if i did have it. so where is the value?
08:58pm 03/01/13 Permalink
TufNuT
I like eel pie
Brisbane, Queensland
4046 posts
. As a consumer this is definately something i would be interested in,


As an AUSTRALIAN consumer you will never have access to this. unless i missed something in the article that stated it would be available here..
09:04pm 03/01/13 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
20965 posts
lol I pay $70 a month for 'basic' + sport + HD (inc IQ2) its cheap imo

you don't need any other channels, everything else is available elsewhere and the fkn movies take forever to get to foxtel and are available in the video stores anyway!

plus if I were to go to the pub to watch a match, which I would if I didn't have it, then one night at the pub and it'd be paid for!! Or maybe 2 if it was a school night, but chances are I'd go for a feed and a few beers so it'd easily be over $50.

My parents have all chans in HD plus 3 extra boxes but they only watch a few channels and never watch movies on it so it's kinda a waste for them.
09:14pm 03/01/13 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
6293 posts
I don't pay anything and use friends foxtel to watch the sports and the tv's and it works great.

Also more sociable than drinking a beer wishing your wifey would leave you alone.
10:36am 04/01/13 Permalink
HERMITech
Brisbane, Queensland
8109 posts
Don't watch sport and don't pay for foxtel
/profit + win = m0re win!
11:35am 04/01/13 Permalink
TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
5306 posts
I have fetchtv $14.95 wouldnt say it isnt worth it, but its ok....
04:19pm 05/01/13 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
34887 posts
no sport = fail
05:45pm 05/01/13 Permalink
WetWired
Brisbane, Queensland
6118 posts
If you can subscribe to individual channels I can see a lot of those dud filler channels that come bundled with a lot of services just dying off completely.
09:11pm 05/01/13 Permalink
koopz
Brisbane, Queensland
9865 posts
no sport = fail

nah - you just don't pay attention to sources that deliver. I hope you aren't in a position to influence younguns in the wrong direction.. er wait.. what is hte 'right direction' again....

it heppens

my mind boggles when considering the options that may have been at my fingertips if i spoke another language.

yeah.. lets consider German to be 'off the table'

meanwhile..
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