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Of SSD's and Windows 8
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
13168 posts
So I just installed Windows 8 onto my Samsung 830 64GB SSD and I must say I'm enjoying this speed boost.

Unfortunately my mobo is a Sata2 and doesn't support AHCI mode, still it runs very fast. Boots in 6.5 seconds, sweet.

Can anyone recommend any apps/tweaks I should be doing with my fresh Win 8 and SSD intall?

I'm using my old mechanical drive as storage.

edit: Also i'm impressed with the file copying of Windows 8, MUCH faster and I like the information it gives. Long overdue.
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mental
Brisbane, Queensland
3685 posts
Win-x extender (right click desktop start menu)
http://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.30

Run the ssd optimiser every now and then

Organise the start screen with what you use and unpin what you don't (you can get to them in the all program list)

Win key and start typing, win key plus r, and s*** still works, just beware they are split into programs/settings/files.



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11:22pm 06/12/12 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
34676 posts
how old is your mobo that it doesnt support AHCI?
go and check for bios updates, that doesnt sound right at all.

my asus mobo is nearly 5 years old and it has AHCI.
07:49am 07/12/12 Permalink
euphoria
Gold Coast, Queensland
2066 posts
Most useful Win 8 intro vid I've seen:

08:00am 07/12/12 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
1311 posts
That is probably the best 'here's windows 8' videos I've seen before Euphoria, cheers for the post.

I've been running W8 at home atm for about a month now.
Aside from the obvious tablet integration (which I'm still yet to be convinced that for a 'traditional mouse and keyboard desktop' is, at all, a good idea) which just 'feels' awkward, I'm enjoying the speed of the OS (I didn't think it would improve on Win 7's speed... Windows 8 is a LOT faster in certain areas) and above all else, the file transfer dialogue box is AWESOME now too as Toll pointed out, WELL overdue MS.

It isn't very well implemented at all for multiple monitor support best I can figure. The 'artist formerly known as metro' is kinda neat in that it will only interact with the monitor that your mouse is on at the time, but really tediously, you can't have any of those 'full screen metro' apps span multiple screens, or duplicate them to run them on multiple screens (this is particularly s***eful with I dunno, say internet explorer)
Most apps don't support the 'display modes' (ie, don't conform to that 'full screen metro' type interface) so it's still 'plain ol' windows' when using those)
My only other bug bear is that the ONLY way to reach the 'shut down' button is to 'lock' the screen (quickest to just hit 'WIN+L') and then click the power button, and select shut down. Surely there's a better way that I've missed...

Windows 8 doesn't deserve the bad press it's getting.
Sure Microsoft have packaged it poorly again ($58 for the OS is good, but add another $58 for 'Pro' (which includes Media Centre, remote desktop* and bitlocker)... REMOTE DESKTOP SHOULDN'T BE A 'PREMIUM' FEATURE!... why the f*** bother to do it like that.... still it's not the traffic accident that is 'home', 'home premium', 'professional', 'Ultimate' etc etc etc) and the current 'more fully featured Windows 8 ready' laptop/tablets available to play with at the moment all feel REALLY half baked. (Dell's 12" XPS is as close to 'reasonable' implementation I've seen, but as a mate of mine put it yesterday, "at the size/weight it is, it has all of the hangups of being a laptop and none (save for the touch screen perhaps) of the benefits of being a tablet. It combines the worst of both worlds"

I can't see touch screen desktops coming in to being the norm any time soon, and some of the 'gesture' based stuff in Windows 8 is poorly implemented, or has really s***tily advertised alternatives for 'conventional desktop users'.
08:39am 07/12/12 Permalink
euphoria
Gold Coast, Queensland
2067 posts
I wasn't that impressed with the gesture stuff either... until I got a Surface. Windows 8 on a touch device rocks. As for a quick shutdown, yeah, it is clunky... but then I mostly just smash the sleep button on my keyboard so it doesn't bother me that much. Alt+F4 when you're on the desktop is a quick way to get to shutdown - was mentioned in that video I posted.
09:01am 07/12/12 Permalink
Infidel
Netherlands
3996 posts
how do you actualy check if youre running in AHCI mode or not ... my bios says ahci is enabled but I cant tell anywhere, registry seems to not show it clearly either
09:46am 07/12/12 Permalink
Infidel
Netherlands
3996 posts
how do you actualy check if youre running in AHCI mode or not ... my bios says ahci is enabled but I cant tell anywhere, registry seems to not show it clearly either
09:46am 07/12/12 Permalink
RUSTA
Brisbane, Queensland
322 posts
Are you sure you mean AHCI and not UEFI instead? What motherboard do you have?

09:48am 07/12/12 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
13169 posts
I've got a Asrock N68-S UCC, I've checked firmware updates and there is no AHCI mode, yer it is balls. I even looked into modded firmware (moded bios firmware is crazy times). I also cant run it in RAID mode without having 2 drives, o well.

Not to worry, windows sees the drive as an SSD so it should be handled correctly. Just a bit of performance loss, it is still HEAPS better then a mechanical drive.

Windows 8 has been a Joy to use with it's speed. The UI seems a bit gumby though. I've yet to find how to shut down some screens without hitting alt-f4.

The shutdown marathon sucks, glad alt-f4 shortcut exists.
10:00am 07/12/12 Permalink
mental
Brisbane, Queensland
3686 posts
That's because metro apps are supposed to act like android/apple apps and not close.
10:11am 07/12/12 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
13170 posts
Doesn't that chew up resources though?

EDIT: Also I forgot to mention the most important fact:

My games are running significantly better in Windows 8. Far Cry 3 for instance runs about 15 FPS better on the same settings with same Nvidia Drivers.

I think Win 8 is much better than what people have said, they just don't like change.

last edited by Tollaz0r! at 10:14:57 07/Dec/12
10:12am 07/12/12 Permalink
mental
Brisbane, Queensland
3687 posts
Not really, hibernates them like a smart phone does. I don't really use many of them so can't really bench it.
10:16am 07/12/12 Permalink
kos
Germany
2377 posts
how do you actualy check if youre running in AHCI mode or not ... my bios says ahci is enabled but I cant tell anywhere, registry seems to not show it clearly either

Device Manager -> "IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers" should give you an indication, for example the only thing I have in that group is "Standard SATA AHCI Controller".

Also in Windows 8 if you're running in AHCI mode I think all your HDDs should be showing up in the list under "Safely Remove Hardware and Eject Media" in the system tray, at least they do for me.
10:25am 07/12/12 Permalink
kos
Germany
2378 posts
Also, Windows 8 for PCs is Microsoft's very poor attempt to push an excellent touchscreen UI onto keyboard and mouse desktops with the express purpose of increasing the market for Metro app developers and in turn making their Windows RT platform more attractive in the mobile space.

Windows 8 (more specifically the Metro part) isn't bad, it just wasn't made for and doesn't belong on PCs, especially not PCs with large widescreen monitors.

What I'd like to see them do for a PC version is have the option to bring back the Start Menu and the Aero theme, and make it so Metro apps can run and behave like normal desktop Windows programs if you want them to.
The Metro app can still operate in exactly the same way, just put a window border around it, let me move/resize/snap it and just generally not have it fullscreen, and let me minimise/maximise/close it with the click of a button in the top corner.. there's no reason why they couldn't.

I'm not saying get rid of Metro as it stands, I'm just saying have the option to use all of Windows as it was designed for keyboard and mouse, not half designed for keyboard and mouse, half designed fingers and touchscreen. For instance I'd still like to use fullscreen Metro on my HTPC (with this!).

Hopefully the influence of corporate customers will push them in that direction in the next version or two.
10:36am 07/12/12 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
13195 posts
Liking Windows8 in general.

They need to do something about Metro for Keyboard and Mouse in 9.
11:12am 07/12/12 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
856 posts
Boot time for windows 8 is f*****g awesome, slowest part of boot is the bios loading the ram/drives/usb
12:33pm 07/12/12 Permalink
mental
Brisbane, Queensland
3688 posts
Windows blue suggests they will be releasing a new version of windows every year, like apple, etc.
Metro is clunky on mouse and keyboard so hopefully they get it a bit better.
12:44pm 07/12/12 Permalink
kos
Germany
2379 posts
Boot time for windows 8 is f*****g awesome, slowest part of boot is the bios loading the ram/drives/usb

Just upgrade your motherboard(!):
http://event.asus.com/mb/windows_8/
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