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Google Nexus 4 (phone) Nexus 7 (revised), Nexus 10 (tablet)
natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
7991 posts
Heap of announcements from google including a 16gb $400 phone

First looks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66-4uMQqerA&feature=youtu.be
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3570034/inside-android-building-the-nexus-4-nexus-10-android-4-2

Stolen from OzBargain:
No updates with the Nexus 7. Just new storage capacities and new price points.
Nexus 7 16GB Wifi only $249
Nexus 7 32GB Wifi only $299

A 3g model of the Nexus 7 has also been announced, but it doesn't seem to be available on the website yet. (Probably going to be available November 13th.)

Shipping cost from Google play store $19.99

For those waiting for the Nexus4 and Nexus 10, those devices will be available Nov 13.

Nexus 4 phone 8GB $349, 16GB $399
Nexus 10 tablet 16GB $469, 32GB $569
11:09am 30/10/12 Permalink
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Twisted
Brisbane, Queensland
11760 posts

Upgraded Nexus 7 looks great. Not sure about the Nexus 10. One ugly looking piece of s*** if you ask me. But I suppose the specs are quite good. The phone is ugly as s*** as well. The new Android updates look good though.
11:15am 30/10/12 Permalink
natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
7992 posts
"streetview" in your phone is pretty neat.
11:25am 30/10/12 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
839 posts
no 4g for phone?
11:51am 30/10/12 Permalink
Snakeman
Queensland
854 posts
How much time would we have to wait to get the 32gig Nexus 7 ??? I need to but one before the 11th.
12:28pm 30/10/12 Permalink
natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
7993 posts
Says 'in stock delivered 3-5 business days'
12:33pm 30/10/12 Permalink
Nathan
Brisbane, Queensland
4105 posts
Definitely going to get the Nexus 10; will wait for reviews of the Nexus 4.
12:34pm 30/10/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
5378 posts
no 4g for phone?


The Nexus 4 has HSPA+ support like the iPhone 4S, but no LTE.
Whether you care is probably a download speed vs battery life trade off.
01:34pm 30/10/12 Permalink
Mass
Brisbane, Queensland
1282 posts
I just ordered 2 x 32Gb Nexus 7 from the play store for my older kids for xmas, little kids getting an ipad to share (seeing as how iOS is targeted at the 3-5yr old market)
01:37pm 30/10/12 Permalink
Snakeman
Queensland
855 posts
Says 'in stock delivered 3-5 business days'


I would rather buy it from d*** or HN so I can return it to them rather than post it to google.
02:52pm 30/10/12 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
2849 posts
Why not just get a Samsung 7 8gig and throw a 32gig SD card in it? I don't know how they compare but you can go in store and buy one of them now for $250.

The Nexus 10 seems to have a lot of non-screen real estate around the edges but it seems like it has a nice screen. There should be some nice price wars going on now that MS have hit the market. The Surface is already at a better price point at $499US for the 32gig.
03:46pm 30/10/12 Permalink
Mass
Brisbane, Queensland
1283 posts
I would rather buy it from d*** or HN so I can return it to them rather than post it to google.

All warranties are handled by Asus not Google. If you DSE or HN bought unit f**** up you go back to ASUS aswell.
03:50pm 30/10/12 Permalink
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
36544 posts
All warranties are handled by Asus not Google. If you DSE or HN bought unit f**** up you go back to ASUS aswell.
Huh? Whoever sells it to you at retail is responsible for replacing busted units. They might try to fob you off to Asus (or you might choose to go down that route) but retailers are responsible for replacing products that don't work.
04:27pm 30/10/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2752 posts
Shame about no LTE on the Nexus 4, but at that price it is insane.

That said, until I see some more details of the nexus 4 it doesn't look like much compared to the Galaxy Nexus.
04:56pm 30/10/12 Permalink
Mass
Brisbane, Queensland
1284 posts
Huh? Whoever sells it to you at retail is responsible for replacing busted units. They might try to fob you off to Asus (or you might choose to go down that route) but retailers are responsible for replacing products that don't work.

Yeah but after the first 14 days they just send the unit back to Asus and you wait same as everyone else.
05:23pm 30/10/12 Permalink
Nathan
Brisbane, Queensland
4106 posts
The Nexus 10 seems to have a lot of non-screen real estate around the edges
The Nexus 10 is listed as a 16:10 10.055" screen which means its 216.6 x 135.3 mm , while the device itself is listed at 263.9 x 177.6 x 8.9 mm meaning the bezel when held in landscape is about 24mm on the left and right and 21mm on the top and bottom.

The ipad4 is listed as a 4:3 9.7" screen which means its 197.1 x 147.8mm, while the device itself is listed at 241.2 x 185.7 mm meaning the bezel when held in landscape is about 22mm on the left and right and 19mm on the top and bottom.

In other words, the bezel is 2mm extra on each side. Of course, the ipad bezel is already quite big.

I think the black bars at the top and bottom of screen (for the navigation and notification bars) make it seem worse than it is.
05:57pm 30/10/12 Permalink
parabol
Brisbane, Queensland
7332 posts
The Nexus 4 has HSPA+ support like the iPhone 4S, but no LTE.
Whether you care is probably a download speed vs battery life trade off.

The lower latency compared to 3G is another factor.

I was quite excited about this phone until I realised the lack of 4G/LTE. Such a shame.
12:47am 31/10/12 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2755 posts
Just watched the youtube of the nexus 4. I take back what i said earlier, the phone is lots sexier than my galaxy nexus and the charging dock is really nice. damn you shiny things.

i think that was a big factor as to why google went with LG instead of samsung. Samsung really f***ed up with the accessories for the GN (read: none provided at all months after launch at which point everyone stopped caring).

the price point is a huge winner. Unless you were an Apple fan (and can afford or even care about LTE) it would be hard for a neutral person to turn down a $400 price difference.
01:00am 31/10/12 Permalink
mongie
Brisbane, Queensland
7620 posts
I think there will have to be an LTE version at some point.
08:01am 31/10/12 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
8481 posts
This seems like the only Nexus 4 thread and instead of pushing into Lumia 920 one I'll update here. New stock seems to have arrived, not sure how long it will last but both the 8GB and 16GB versions are available for purchase. Kind of sucks for me as I was planning on getting one but monitor decided to kill itself few days ago so no money.

Hopefully now that its back in stock it can stay like that until next week.
11:24am 31/01/13 Permalink
simul
Brisbane, Queensland
1501 posts
Available where?
11:26am 31/01/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
8482 posts
That could have been handy to say, at the Google Store for Australia.
11:30am 31/01/13 Permalink
natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
8102 posts
Went on sale 9AM. Didn't sell out in 20 minutes this time, so I managed to order one.

yay me.

I conferred with an android fanboi before jumping in as the mobile world conference is on at the end of February and that's where the S4 and stuff will be announced.

For the price though, this can't be beat. $419 delivered and on Telstra pre-paid at the moment, so my mobile service has never been cheaper and still on telstra.
12:28pm 31/01/13 Permalink
greazy
Brisbane, Queensland
5728 posts
Whats the deal with the phone costing more than a tablet?
04:08pm 31/01/13 Permalink
parabol
Brisbane, Queensland
7442 posts
Why is a compact 3G+WiFi cellular phone more expensive than a less size-constrained WiFi-only tablet?

The question answers itself.
04:15pm 31/01/13 Permalink
glynd
Melbourne, Victoria
887 posts
Whats the deal with the phone costing more than a tablet?


besides the Nexus part, they're completely different.

Completely different components like Nexus 4 is made by tLG with Snapdragon CPU, Nexus 7 is ASUS with Tegra 3, Nexus 7 only has front facing camera whereas nexus 4 has two cameras that are better quality. Just go to tech specs to see the difference.
04:27pm 31/01/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2818 posts
A year into my galaxy nexus, i hope the next nexus phone next year won't be plagued by these production problems. the next nexus is going to be hot!
06:04pm 31/01/13 Permalink
trillion
Brisbane, Queensland
2805 posts
better than the Samsung Galaxy SIII?
06:20pm 31/01/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2819 posts
if you dont care for 4g the nexus is better than the s3 imo. mainly because you wont get bloated software and OTA updates of latest android, and not 5+ months after.

also its half the price

but if you want 4g... can't really argue.
06:34pm 31/01/13 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
6340 posts
The Nexus 4 has HSPA+ support like the iPhone 4S, but no LTE.Whether you care is probably a download speed vs battery life trade off.

The Nexus 4 has LTE modem, but is disabled from HW. You can enable it with some knowledge gained from xda.developers
07:32pm 31/01/13 Permalink
Bromby
141 posts
Quick question, can I bring a Nexus 10 back from the USA to Australia with a power adapter? Kogan still have stock at $618 delivered.
08:43pm 31/01/13 Permalink
Bromby
142 posts
Edit is borked... kogan have them in Australia delivered for $618.
08:44pm 31/01/13 Permalink
glynd
Melbourne, Victoria
889 posts
Quick question, can I bring a Nexus 10 back from the USA to Australia with a power adapter? Kogan still have stock at $618 delivered.


My Motorola Xoom is from the states. I just plug it into my transformer I use for my USA Xbox. I'll most likely import my next tablet as well.
08:45pm 31/01/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21255 posts
better than the Samsung Galaxy SIII?

Has anyone who has had an S3 for a while had any issues? Seems there's talk on XDA about S3's just up and dying because of a hardware fault.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2091045
08:49pm 31/01/13 Permalink
Bromby
143 posts
My Motorola Xoom is from the states.
Werd, I'm in America throughout April. I'll pick on up then.
08:52pm 31/01/13 Permalink
trillion
Brisbane, Queensland
2806 posts
whoop that link is in the siii section but mentions the software only running on the S2?
09:20pm 31/01/13 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
20987 posts
F*** IT

Spewing I didn't see this earlier. 16gb sold out again :/
10:11pm 31/01/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21256 posts
whoop that link is in the siii section but mentions the software only running on the S2?

you mean the emmc brick bug software? it runs on the s3 as well, it was updated after the original post was made.
10:15pm 31/01/13 Permalink
Wrecktim
Perth, Western Australia
825 posts
one thing about the nexus 4 is that the back gets very hot after awhile.
12:25am 01/02/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2820 posts
that is a pretty common theme with most android devices. it's random and not really a big deal
12:59am 01/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21257 posts
yeah, my desire used to get smoken hot (not literally) and my S3 gets warm (not hot) after a while.
01:24am 01/02/13 Permalink
BOOST
Brisbane, Queensland
548 posts
Managed to get a 16gb before they went out of stock. Changing from a Galaxy S3 so will let you know how it goes.
09:23am 01/02/13 Permalink
Bromby
145 posts
Kogan have the Nexus 4 16gb for $499 at the moment.
10:14am 01/02/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2821 posts
I love the Kogan website

http://www.kogan.com/au/buy/google-nexus-4-16gb-smart-android-phone/

how was it ever $519 hahaha
11:01am 01/02/13 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
6344 posts
Has anyone who has had an S3 for a while had any issues? Seems there's talk on XDA about S3's just up and dying because of a hardware fault.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2091045

I've had mine on custom firmware since probably day 2 of ownership, so a CM10 variant... but the only problem mine has is where i dropped it at nando's from the waiting bench on to the hard tiles and cracked the screen lol. GG

Lots of people on wingepool complaining about the brick too, seemed like something a OTA update ruined for a big portion of people but it hasn't happened to me..
02:21pm 01/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21258 posts
Link to whirlpool thread?
06:09pm 01/02/13 Permalink
Tremble
Brisbane, Queensland
444 posts
It looks like Google have already started shipping these out.

If you managed to snag one, you can track it via FedEx.
In your receipt email, the numbers after the period in your order number is the FedEx reference number, put it here along with your post code to see the status (you need to set the country to Ausralia as well).

https://www.fedex.com/AltRefTracking?cntry_code=au
06:10pm 01/02/13 Permalink
BOOST
Brisbane, Queensland
550 posts
cool mine says it left on 31st Jan and should be here on 4th Feb
06:35pm 01/02/13 Permalink
Fixah
Brisbane, Queensland
7190 posts
When will they be coming out with the 32gig version of the nexus 4, 16gig barely cuts it for me these days..

Stoopid htc one x s*** itself soon after my son drooled all over it and made it corrode on the inside with his venom.
08:13pm 01/02/13 Permalink
natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
8103 posts
I found this out at 3pm today. Was so excited because Mine was expected to arrive at 5pm today but didn't turn up.

Maybe because of the storms. So guess now it'll be Monday since it express weekday delivery.
08:42pm 01/02/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2822 posts
When will they be coming out with the 32gig version of the nexus 4, 16gig barely cuts it for me these days..Stoopid htc one x s*** itself soon after my son drooled all over it and made it corrode on the inside with his venom.


never

whats taking up the space? i hope you dont say 12 gig of music/photos
11:47pm 01/02/13 Permalink
Fixah
Brisbane, Queensland
7191 posts
Yes... why what's everyone doing these days to manage space on their phone? drop box or some s***? I'm a bit out of the loop with the latest apps etc.
12:11pm 02/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21262 posts
why what's everyone doing these days to manage space on their phone?

Stop taking 500 pictures of themselves every 5 minutes?

He's right though, with so many apps getting up into normal PC program size lately, it seems devs have just gone nuts with HD graphics & whatever and forgot that people might want to install more than just THEIR app, even 16gig is too small.

Not to mention people with stock phones and all the bloated s*** that comes with them (though I'm told the nexus ones don't have bloat).

As for me, I just back up pictures to the PC and delete them off the phone when there gets to be too many. Contacts are stored "in the clouds". Oh also I've set my camera to store pictures & videos on the external SD card by default, so whack a 32gig SD card in there and use it for nothing but pictures, videos and ringtones.
12:38pm 02/02/13 Permalink
Fixah
Brisbane, Queensland
7192 posts
This nexus 4 does come with expandable storage right? that's one thing i found a bit annoying with the HTC One x, that and the
lack of a removable battery.

Edit: no expandable storage and no removable battery, gah. Do i really have to wait for "The Next Nexus" to get hardware features that were available on phones from day dot?
12:48pm 02/02/13 Permalink
evıs
Brisbane, Queensland
6608 posts
It is better to use cloud storage these days anyway, just in case your device gets lost/stolen.
02:34pm 02/02/13 Permalink
Fixah
Brisbane, Queensland
7194 posts
True. I'm still a bit torn between getting the N4 and the S3.

S3 pros for me:

- Bigger internal memory with expandable storage
- Removable battery
- Better Battery life than the N4 (apparently, according to various reviews out there)
- Bigger development community for custom roms etc
- Slightly better camera quality


N4 pros for me:

- Price (though the S3 will have to get cheaper to compete with the N4, then there's the S4 on the horizon)
- Pure 4.2 Google OS out of the box with OTA updates (not that of a big deal for a custom rommer i guess)
- Wireless charging
- Better build quality and looks sexy as hell

It's like I want the S3 due to its practicality so i think it'd be the smart choice but I like the Nexus 4 due to its Aesthetics for such a good price and i'm a sucker of a chump in the aesthetics department. I guess the N4 will only look as good as the cover that's on it but it's like I want the N4 to deceive me with its devlish looks! argh!
03:20pm 02/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21268 posts
It is better to use cloud storage these days anyway, just in case your device gets lost/stolen.

Not if you don't have a data plan.

It's like I want the S3 due to its practicality so i think it's the smart choice
After all this SDS bulls***, with S3's dying after about 150 - 200 days, I sort of wish I'd bought something else. The trouble is it was the phone that had all the features I wanted. I almost got the HTC but like you, a lack of removable battery and external storage was the deal breaker.
03:27pm 02/02/13 Permalink
Fixah
Brisbane, Queensland
7195 posts
Who doesn't have a data plan these days. If you don't then you shouldn't have a smart phone.

Also I loved my HTC One X, so much so that I even looked past the lack of expandable storage (coz 32 gig is heaps) and no removable battery, but as soon as a bit of moisture goes in you might as well dip it in green paint and call it gumby. I found that out the hard way after 6 months of use and $300 on repairs and now it shat itself beyond repair. I have no phone right now and need to get something (android) before i go overseas for a month at the end of feb. The N4 looks like a winner on the surface but the deeper I dig the more I hesitate in getting one. Other than that and the S3, nothing else interests me out there. Goodbye HTC. It was good while it lasted.
03:42pm 02/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21278 posts
data plan

lisa needs downloads

data plan

lisa needs downloads

data plan

lisa needs downloads


(p.s. I'm on prepaid, lolz. but when I recharge i get free ziggybytes)
10:45pm 02/02/13 Permalink
Bromby
147 posts
So I bit the bullet and bought a Nexus 10 from Kogan, should be here next week. Anyone know where to buy a decent case, similar to an otter box or something robust? I've tried ebay and le google, but most of the stuff is in the USA and won't post here. A brand that came up is Poetic but it seems there website is down or blocked to Australian IPs?
02:31pm 03/02/13 Permalink
Fixah
Brisbane, Queensland
7200 posts
By the way Harvey Norman are selling the Google Nexus 4 for $496, $76 more than Google Play store (counting $20 shipping). Not bad considering you can pick it up straight away and you get local warranty and support. Tempting..
03:07pm 03/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21283 posts
By the way Harvey Norman have the Google Nexus 4 for $496 in stock, $76 more than Google Play store (counting $20 shipping). Not bad considering you can pick it up straight away and you get local warranty and support. Tempting..

That's $76 you could spend on coke and hookers, not to mention whatever you spend on petrol to get to harveys.

I'd always buy local electronics goods though, just for the better warranty (i.e. not having to send it off in the mail to some random country myself).
03:14pm 03/02/13 Permalink
Fixah
Brisbane, Queensland
7201 posts
Actually I just rang and they don't have em in stock, they're on back order at most stores and expecting stock in the next few days. Who knows when Google play store will stock em again. Plus unless you fly a jet to harvey's and have your own landing strip at the top of the shopping centre you shouldn't have to factor fuel costs, which i think goes for 100% of the population.. of the world.
03:19pm 03/02/13 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
20990 posts
Tempting. I really wish the Nexus 4 had an SD card though.

I like the fact it is a native google phone and get the updates quicker. It's a toss up between this and an s3.

Although I saw an advertisement for this in the paper today - http://motorolacashback.com.au/

They look sexy the next HD and RAZR M phones, though sadly only dual core, but they are LTE and you can get them for $600 - cashback = $500
03:31pm 03/02/13 Permalink
Fixah
Brisbane, Queensland
7202 posts
Just a heads up for those who are interested in the N4 from HN, most HN stores are out of stock until March but Gladstone and Rockhampton stores have em in limited supply. I bit the bullet too and got my local store to contact Gladstone and they agreed to send it down here while they pay for the shipping costs. I was told I can expect to pick it up at the end of the week for 496. So if you're desperate like me give it a go. Works out well for me i think since i'll be overseas before stock arrives in March.
04:38pm 03/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21284 posts
Tempting. I really wish the Nexus 4 had an SD card though.I like the fact it is a native google phone and get the updates quicker.

Just get an S3, root it, keep an eye on the firmware release pages at XDA and flash the latest from china or uk or whatever. It's what all the cool kids are doing.
07:03pm 03/02/13 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
6350 posts
Just get an S3, root it, keep an eye on the firmware release pages at XDA and flash the latest from china or uk or whatever. It's what all the cool kids are doing.

This is sensible advice.

Here's how i got caught out with a work device:

I root all my owned devices, but work gave me one so i didn't do anything, left it locked and untouched. It had a chip on the screen from previous user but it didn't bother me.

Then an OTA update came and bricked the device. On any other device with an unlocked bootloader i could have fixed it, but because it was bricked i couldn't unlock the bootloader, so all i could do was flash a staging area on the phone which then just ignored the flash to ROM because it was locked.

The device was chipped probably because it was dropped so no warranty.

Lesson here is, just f*****g root your devices. 99% of them you can go back to unrooted and locked or whatever if you have an issue that needs to be returned for. Far easier that way.
03:41pm 04/02/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2824 posts
Dont get unlocking the bootloader and rooting mixed together. Quite different.

While rooting the phone might not be everyone's cup of tea everyone should unlock the bootloader upon getting their phone. Just because if you change your mind later on down the track itll result in a wipe of the phone to unlock it and to also help in situations like above.
04:22pm 04/02/13 Permalink
natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
8109 posts
My Nexus 4 arrived at 9:21 this morning.

Looking forward to getting home.
04:37pm 04/02/13 Permalink
Nathan
Brisbane, Queensland
4145 posts
If you're planning to use the phone for 2 years, then the N4 is likely going to be a whole lot more appealing software-wise in 2014 than the S3 will be.
05:05pm 04/02/13 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
20991 posts
Its a shame I can't buy one though!!
07:40pm 04/02/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2825 posts
LG really f***ed the pooch here
07:50pm 04/02/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2826 posts
07:55pm 04/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21292 posts
This is sensible advice.Here's how i got caught out with a work device:I root all my owned devices, but work gave me one so i didn't do anything, left it locked and untouched. It had a chip on the screen from previous user but it didn't bother me. Then an OTA update came and bricked the device. On any other device with an unlocked bootloader i could have fixed it, but because it was bricked i couldn't unlock the bootloader, so all i could do was flash a staging area on the phone which then just ignored the flash to ROM because it was locked.The device was chipped probably because it was dropped so no warranty. Lesson here is, just f*****g root your devices. 99% of them you can go back to unrooted and locked or whatever if you have an issue that needs to be returned for. Far easier that way.

If work gave it to you, wouldn't they just replace it and give you another one? Not sure why you'd even care what happens to a work phone? Unless you had to pay for it because they blamed you or something.
08:37pm 04/02/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
8502 posts
The 16GB look to be back in stock again, very tempted now.
12:25pm 05/02/13 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
20993 posts
Awesome, thanks to natslovR for sending me a message, I've ordered mine. Let's hope it arrives this week!
04:26pm 05/02/13 Permalink
bargain
Sydney, New South Wales
1945 posts
Woo! You fellas getting that bumper for an extra $20?

EDIT: Nevermind, the bumper is 'temporarily unavailable'...

Ordered the phone though. Finally.
05:26pm 05/02/13 Permalink
Fixah
Brisbane, Queensland
7203 posts
Ships in 2-3 weeks huh..if that takes another week to arrive i'll be overseas by then. Oh well..
08:09pm 05/02/13 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
20994 posts
that's what the said on the 31st fixah and people (natslovR) already has his - arrived 4 Feb, so hopefully it ships sooner!!!
08:11pm 05/02/13 Permalink
Fixah
Brisbane, Queensland
7204 posts
Thing is i already ordered one through Harvey Norman through another store but haven't paid for it yet. Do you think i should just cancel it before it arrives on Friday and order it online instead? it's not like they won't be able to sell it or anything..or is that a dog act?

I save $76 but could potentially receive it after i go oversea BUT I get it sooner through HN (and i won't look like a dog customer)

Someone advise me quick my moral compass is about to break! I hope it sells out in the next 5 minutes so i don't have go through this s***..

UNLESS I BUY ONE FROM GOOGLE JUST IN TIME AND SELL THE ONE FROM HN TO A FELLOW QGL CUSTOMER FOR COST PRICE AND EVERYONE IS HAPPY F***!
08:16pm 05/02/13 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
20997 posts
Anyone else order one in the last round? Has yours been shipped yet? I haven't received a shipping confirmation as yet waaaah :/

And the tracking trick mentioned above doesn't work either....

I guess I'll have to wait the 1-2 weeks.

I ordered 5 Feb fyi
09:41am 08/02/13 Permalink
Fixah
Brisbane, Queensland
7207 posts
Thanks a******* I bit the bullet and bought one though payment is still pending and it says it will ship on the 22nd. Is that the same for anyone else?

Edit: oh well there you, same boat as you heardy but i think 1-2 weeks is being optimistic, more like 3 weeks til it arrivies according to what they're saying :(
09:46am 08/02/13 Permalink
BOOST
Brisbane, Queensland
551 posts
I ordered mine last Thursday and it turned up on Monday arvo.

Here's my thoughts after a few days of using the Nexus after using a S3 for a few months.

The Nexus immediately felt heavier than my S3. Measured it on electric scales and it is 139 grams compared to 131 grams of the S3. I thought it was going to be 3grams difference and wouldn't really notice. It sounds like 8 grams wouldn't make a difference but it does. The Nexus has a noticeably more solid build.

The screen on the Nexus has about 1cm less height as the back/home buttons are on the screen whereas the S3 are not. Its pretty significant side by side. I prefer how the S3 has a physical button on the bottom of the phone to wake it up as this is handy when its placed on a desk. Its good having stock Android and no annoying Samsung crap that cannot be uninstalled, like the Music Hub that doesn't even work in Australia yet it randomly decides to attempt to login and reports "Doesn't work in Australia". But some things that are bundled with the S3 like the 50gig of Dropbox and the Samsung remote delete feature if you lose your phone are nice to have. I know you can get apps like Prey to do this but I think they have a monthly fee?

The removable battery and micro-sd support isn't an issue for me.

The S3 is the better phone but the prices reflect the differences very well ($400 16gb Nexus vs $500 S3). If you were upgrading from an older phone straight to a Nexus you'd be chuffed. But after using the S3 the little differences are annoying... feels like taking a slight step back instead of sideways.
10:50am 08/02/13 Permalink
Bromby
148 posts
My nexus 10 arrived yesterday, less than a week after purchase. Ba11er

Side note, I bought mine through kogan. It came with a power plug converter which I didn't realize... Bit of a pain but I can deal with it
01:17pm 08/02/13 Permalink
Nathan
Brisbane, Queensland
4151 posts
But after using the S3 the little differences are annoying... feels like taking a slight step back instead of sideways.
I'm surprised you didnt mention the screen, which for the S3 - at least to my eyes - is much nicer than the N4.

Otherwise, I dont share your opinion. I tended to use the power button on the S3 to light the screen up anyway as my phone before the S3 did not have a physical home button either. Chances are you'll get used to it; once the phone is actually on I vastly prefer the on-screen buttons to the invisible menu and back buttons of the S3.

The S3 is better specced, but the N4 is the phone I prefer to use.
02:20pm 08/02/13 Permalink
BOOST
Brisbane, Queensland
552 posts
What aspect do you prefer about the S3 screen? The N4 feels nicer to the touch for me but I didn't mention it as I thought the S3 screen may be a bit dirty due to being a few months older.

You can set those invisible buttons on the S3 to stay on while the screen is on if the invisible thing bothers you. I will get used to it. Its just nice having the option on the S3. If I was to read something like that before hand on a review I would think the reviewer was being picky and ignore it.
03:20pm 08/02/13 Permalink
BOOST
Brisbane, Queensland
553 posts
Derp - can't edit but just re-read and saw that you said to your eyes the S3 is better.
03:21pm 08/02/13 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
21000 posts
Has anyone who ordered in the past week or two received a further email or taken delivery of the phone.

I am getting impatient hehe
07:55pm 15/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21376 posts
How do you find the N4 for waking up? I went from a desire to an S3 and the S3 is lagged to all f***. It takes like half a second between pressing the button and the screen responding, the desire was instant. I know it's only half a second but when you're used to instant, half a second seems like a lifetime. It's like going from an SSD back to a platter drive.
08:08pm 15/02/13 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
6385 posts
If work gave it to you, wouldn't they just replace it and give you another one? Not sure why you'd even care what happens to a work phone? Unless you had to pay for it because they blamed you or something.

Pretty much this. It's not a big company and i took responsibility that it got damaged (the crack). I'm also the sysadmin so I'm kind of reporting the issue to myself, it's hard for me to objectively say "Just give me a new one" and then feel like I'm not screwing the company lol.

It's currently in the manufactures hands, turns out they agree that the brick was their fault as the screen glass was only cracked and there's no damage, so i'm paying for the screen and they'll return it. Bad thing was either way i still needed a new work device and so i just replaced it out of my pocket..
08:24pm 15/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21378 posts
At least you didn't have to pay the full price for an entire phone though.
08:33pm 15/02/13 Permalink
Rdizz
Germany
2320 posts
BTW those that have a galaxy S3 i highly recommend getting one of those cheap extended batteries that replace the standard one. I am a heavy user and this is my latest screenshot.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/521475_10151450731360860_1759413139_n.jpg
12:28am 16/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21382 posts
man for the little amount of use my phone gets, with an extended battery I'd probably get 2 weeks out of it. I've just had a go at seeing how long I can make it last and I've just cracked 4 days on the standard battery. wifi + bluetooth + 3g were all turned on too, "power saving" is off. Like I said though, I'm a really light user. Does the extended battery fit in the standard slot? I've got a hard cover on my phone so if it doesn't, does it come with its own case to protect the phone?
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm190/pointyfork/qgl/Screenshot_2013-02-16-01-04-16_zps56429181.png
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm190/pointyfork/qgl/Screenshot_2013-02-16-01-04-32_zpseda52427.png
02:02am 16/02/13 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
6387 posts
If anything whoop has proven how pointless it is to bother playing switch on/switch off on your s***. leave your screen off for the extra 5 seconds that you'd take to change your settings and you're better off.
03:08am 16/02/13 Permalink
Rdizz
Germany
2321 posts
yeah it comes with its own case.. some are better than others so check reviews
03:38am 16/02/13 Permalink
Fade2Black
Brisbane, Queensland
5179 posts
I want to get one via work so I need a proper quote from google to provide to the company.

Anyone know how I can get one??
07:25am 16/02/13 Permalink
Fixah
Brisbane, Queensland
7215 posts
Ring Google Australia maybe? i got through to them without wait last time i called.

Still waiting for any sort of confirmation from em for the N4 and I ordered my phone on the 5th.
09:09am 16/02/13 Permalink
Fade2Black
Brisbane, Queensland
5180 posts
Fixah whats the right number to call?
09:36am 16/02/13 Permalink
Fixah
Brisbane, Queensland
7217 posts
Call Google Play device support
To talk to a member of the Google Play team, call 1800-093-181. Our support team is available 24/7.
09:38am 16/02/13 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
21001 posts
Cool, I'm going to call them as well....
09:44am 16/02/13 Permalink
Fade2Black
Brisbane, Queensland
5181 posts
They were useless, "I'm sorry we cannot generate an invoice or a quote for you, you must use our website"
09:55am 16/02/13 Permalink
Fade2Black
Brisbane, Queensland
5182 posts
Lady was also telling me the Nexus 4 8 gig was $299.00 sure looks like $349.00 to me...
09:58am 16/02/13 Permalink
glynd
Melbourne, Victoria
913 posts
Lady was also telling me the Nexus 4 8 gig was $299.00 sure looks like $349.00 to me...


you didn't call the usa line did you? it's $299 in teh states.
10:14am 16/02/13 Permalink
Fixah
Brisbane, Queensland
7218 posts
heardy let me know what their response is.
11:26am 16/02/13 Permalink
bargain
Sydney, New South Wales
1950 posts
What did u find heardy? I ordered on the same date as you, and yea, still waiting also
04:35pm 16/02/13 Permalink
Fade2Black
Brisbane, Queensland
5183 posts
No I called the 1800 number but I bet it sends u to the USA on weekends here.... so I figured that part out. Still seriously annoyed about them not being able to give me a written quote...
05:13pm 16/02/13 Permalink
Fixah
Brisbane, Queensland
7220 posts
How about getting it from Harvey Norman when they stock it in march..they should get you a written quote
06:15pm 16/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21383 posts
can't you just take a screenshot of the website as proof of how much it's going to cost?
07:05pm 16/02/13 Permalink
natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
8113 posts
Google Australia can't give you a written quote, cause then it would be Google Australia selling it to you, not Google Asia Pacific Pte. Ltd.
07:49pm 16/02/13 Permalink
Rdizz
Germany
2323 posts
no annoying Samsung crap that cannot be uninstalled,


eh L2 smartphone.. you can enable or disable any service you like with the s3 simply by going into apps in settings > all tab > select the service (music hub) > force stop > disable.

list of things disabled on my s3:

chaton
com.android.providers.partner......
music hub
s suggest
s voice
video hub
windy weather
yahoo finace
yahoo news


As for S3 lag with the home button I have never experienced this even with power saving mode on. I have had mine for 4 months are not one problem. Never once has been slow and I am yet to have an app other than toms hardware give me any greif.
08:16pm 16/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21384 posts
It's not "slow" as such, like I said it's only about half a second, maybe only 250ms but when you're used to a phone that is instant, even the slightest delay is annoying.

As if just disable unwanted stuff, root the phone and uninstall it completely. You not only get rid of it from the apps drawer but you also gain some free space.

edit: Here's what I've deleted so far (I don't delete quite as much as others, some stuff I still use)
AllShare Cast_1.0.apk
AllShare Play_1.0.2220.apk
AllShare Service_1.0.0.apk
ChatON_1.11.2.apk
Email_4.0.apk
Exchange Services_4.1.apk
Flipboard_1.9.19.apk
FWUpgrade_1.2.0.apk
Game Hub_2.1.0.apk
Google Play Books_2.6.41.apk
Google Play Magazines_1.2.0.apk
Google Play Movies_2.3.7.apk
Google Play Music_4.4.811H.526848.apk
Google+_3.3.0.40049528.apk
Group Cast_1.5.40.apk
Help_1.0.apk
joyn_1.0.0.apk
Messaging_4.1.2-I9300XXEMA2.apk
More Services_1.0.apk
Movies & TV_0.1.apk
Music Hub_1.0.6.apk
S Planner Widget_1.0.apk
S Planner_4.1.2-I9300XXEMA2.apk
S Suggest_3.2.61.apk
S Voice_4.7.apk
Samsung account_1.3.046.apk
Samsung Apps_2.10.054.apk
Samsung Backup Provider_1.2.apk
Samsung Backup_1.0.apk
Samsung Browser SyncAdapter_1.0.apk
Samsung Calendar SyncAdapter_1.0.apk
Samsung Cloud Data Relay_1.4.12r1.apk
Samsung Contact SyncAdapter_1.0.apk
Samsung Push Service_1.1.2.apk
Samsung SMemo SyncAdapter_1.0.apk
Samsung Syncadapters_2.2.5.apk
SamsungAppsUNA2_2.0.35.apk
Software Update_v2.2.9.apk
Software update_v5_1209_1_2.apk
Talk_4.1.2-509230.apk
User manual_1.0.apk
Yahoo! Finance_120824.01.apk
Yahoo! News_12.10.22.03.apk
YouTube_4.2.16.apk
09:10pm 16/02/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2832 posts
I was looking at the changelog of 4.2.2 today and stumbled onto something that might help you with that "sluggish" feel that you're talking about whoop.

First you need to go into Developer options. If you can't see developer options int he main settings menu then its because its been hidden at some point in the 4.1-4.2 release. To unhide it go to about phone and tap "Build Number" a few times, you will then get an on screen note to say "You're now a developer!"

So once you're in developer options. go to Window animation scale, Transition Animation scale and Animator duration scale.
The default number for all 3 is 1x. You can set it to off or to 0.5 for a more snappy feel when pressing buttons.

Hope that fixes it
12:17am 17/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21391 posts
Nope. Still a delay when waking the phone up. Also tapping build number gets me nothing, tapping android version gets me a jelly bean on the screen. Dev options have always been visible though. (I'm still on 4.1.2)

I think it's just a sleep vs hibernate kind of issue. Like if I leave the phone for a short period of time it's quite snappy, but if its been asleep for ages then it takes a while to respond. It must just be some kind of low power mode (happens even with the power saving option thing turned off).

I guess in the end it's probably better to have it do this and the battery to last me 4 days, unlike my HTC which was lucky to get 1 day out of it, using it the same way.

edit: Nothing demonstrates a demonstration like a demonstration video

have at it

p.s. not looking for a solution, just curious whether others have this same behaviour.
03:12am 17/02/13 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
21002 posts
I didn't end up calling, I'll call tomorrow during AU business hours
05:45pm 17/02/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2833 posts
get a new phone whoop
06:04pm 17/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21395 posts
why
06:52pm 17/02/13 Permalink
glynd
Melbourne, Victoria
914 posts
Nope. Still a delay when waking the phone up.


Just as fast if not quicker than my SGS2 with the latest AOKP rom. *shrug*
08:14pm 17/02/13 Permalink
t
Brisbane, Queensland
232 posts
Root it and change the lowest CPU speed and scheduler
10:29pm 17/02/13 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
6393 posts
Just as fast if not quicker than my SGS2 with the latest AOKP rom. *shrug*

I believe this is a hardware thing. It's how long the screen takes from that deep sleep to get into a responsive state. I know mine does it on the latest AOKP (updated less than a week ago).

TBH, i never would have noticed had someone not told me "Hey have they fixed that" and then me from there on looking for it. I only even heard about it about 2 months ago.

It's hardly an issue tbh. Ideally it would be beyond instant, responsive before you can un-press the home button, but the 1500ms latency from sleep isn't a problem to me.

Just to shortcut the source video: This is whoop's video in stopframe image, the instant his finger presses the button to the instant it is on. Note that that each second is divided by 30ths in this timer for whatever reason, so the second time it takes eleven 30th's of a second to wake after it's not in deep sleep.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg195/skythra/qgl/firstonsecondon.png
01:48am 18/02/13 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
21003 posts
Good news everyone, my phone has arrived so no more complaining from me.... Now I just have to wait until I'm home from work to use it!
01:49pm 18/02/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
13344 posts
I'm using my SGS1 with Cyanogenmod 10.0 running on it. It is very fast and snappy, none of this delay business.

02:17pm 18/02/13 Permalink
natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
8114 posts
The wireless charger is only available in the US :(

A shame because EnGadget gave it a good writeup
04:32pm 18/02/13 Permalink
ara
Sydney, New South Wales
3591 posts
The wireless charger is only available in the US :(A shame because EnGadget gave it a good writeup


maybe it will just take them some times to make a AU plug version
04:37pm 18/02/13 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
6395 posts
Technically the S4 should be able to do wireless charging, but i've never seen any accessories in shops for it..
06:34pm 18/02/13 Permalink
Fixah
Brisbane, Queensland
7221 posts
Good news everyone, my phone has arrived so no more complaining from me.... Now I just have to wait until I'm home from work to use it!
Really, how did you find out? no confirmation email? hope mine arrives soon too!
07:10pm 18/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21396 posts
It's hardly an issue tbh. Ideally it would be beyond instant, responsive before you can un-press the home button, but the 1500ms latency from sleep isn't a problem to me.

Well that's how my desire was. The screen was up before I'd even let go of the button and that's what my gripe is. When you're used to something that fast, it's like owning a Ferrari your entire life and then going out and buying a Commodore.
07:46pm 18/02/13 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
21004 posts
Got an email confirmation Fixah...

about to head over to the oldies to collect it
07:53pm 18/02/13 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
35173 posts
whoop should just relax hey.
07:54pm 18/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21397 posts
don't make me buy an iphone spook
08:05pm 18/02/13 Permalink
Dan
Special Text
Brisbane, Queensland
14113 posts
FWIW, ordered a Nexus 4 8GB on Feb 12 (Google's page listed a 3-4 week wait at the time of ordering), and got an email this morning (feb 18) saying it had shipped, with a Fed-ex tracking number.

Clicked the number to find out that it had already been in transit since Feb 14, and that it was on the truck for delivery to my door today. Six days all up, not too shabby.

That said, given that it was shipped from Hong Kong, and all of the invoicing comes from Google APAC, I have to wonder why on earth they need to charge us the 10% GST. Seems a little daft for a corp as big as Google, maybe it's because they want to provide local warranty and support, but I can't help but feel it's more just an excuse to regionalise the pricing.
08:28pm 18/02/13 Permalink
bargain
Sydney, New South Wales
1951 posts
did u order an 8 or a 16 heardy and fixah? I ordered a 16 on feb 5, still nothing.
08:37pm 18/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21400 posts
I've got a 16 gig phone and if I didn't have an SD card in it, it would be full. I don't know how I would survive with only 8 gig and no external storage.
08:55pm 18/02/13 Permalink
Fixah
Brisbane, Queensland
7222 posts
did u order an 8 or a 16 heardy and fixah? I ordered a 16 on feb 5, still nothing.
16 gig. Ordered on the same day and still nada as well. I'm really hoping i get it before the 25th. I need a phone to play with on the long plane trip to the Middle East. Either way, Allahu Akbar!
10:21pm 18/02/13 Permalink
kos
Germany
2506 posts
On a quick side note, the Nexus 7 Docking Station just came back into stock on the EU Asus sites, I don't know what that means for them being available in Aus but last time they went on sale over here they were sold out in a few hours.
10:31pm 18/02/13 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
21005 posts
16gb version here

I don't have a micro sim so I'll have to get one tomorrow and report back....
11:30pm 18/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21403 posts
^^ apparently some sims you can cut down to micro sim size, mine wasn't one of them though :(
11:47pm 18/02/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2834 posts
normal sims can be cut down to micro size. just need a sharp knife. you cant cut down to nano is all because the chip itself is different in size. another great apple decision
10:54am 19/02/13 Permalink
Nathan
Brisbane, Queensland
4155 posts
list of things disabled on my n4:
06:32pm 19/02/13 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
21007 posts
Got my phone, got my micro sim

I don't think I ever used the google contacts on my previous android phones, but I sync'd it before i fired up the new N4 alas the google contacts won't sync or haven't or I am doing it wrong.

I was hoping to copy contacts from phone to sim and then sim to phone on the new one, but the contacts in my s2 are on the phone and I can't see an option to do this either!

Starting to get very frustrated with it all....

a googling I will go, I guess
07:32pm 19/02/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2835 posts
If you log into your google contacts in your browser and your contacts are there, theres no reason your N4 wouldnt have them unless you've turn sync off.
08:18pm 19/02/13 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
21008 posts
I manually exported them from my old phone and into the new one.

No idea WTF I did wrong, but the vcf didn't take long to generate and import....
08:32pm 19/02/13 Permalink
kos
Germany
2511 posts
Did the contacts from your old phone definitely go to your Google contacts (contacts.google.com)? If they have then go to Settings on your N4, then to the Google account, tap on your account and make sure that Contacts is ticked, then go to the three dot menu and Sync Now.

If that doesn't work then something isn't working as it should, and it's probably easier to just go to the Play Store on your phone and search for something like "contact backup" to export to a file.

Edit: too late!
08:39pm 19/02/13 Permalink
bargain
Sydney, New South Wales
1952 posts
I wonder wtf is going on if I ordered my phone on the same day as you heardy :(
09:04pm 19/02/13 Permalink
Fixah
Brisbane, Queensland
7223 posts
Same, this wait is killing me f*****!
09:18pm 19/02/13 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
21009 posts
hehe I guess I was just lucky....
09:29pm 19/02/13 Permalink
Fixah
Brisbane, Queensland
7224 posts
so, first impressions, a******?
09:37pm 19/02/13 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
21010 posts
fantastic!

loving it....thus far
11:50pm 19/02/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2836 posts
get nova launcher app, so good
12:17am 20/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21412 posts
I like Apex Launcher
12:43am 20/02/13 Permalink
glynd
Melbourne, Victoria
919 posts
I highly recommend Unity Launcher that just came out. It adds the side bar that comes with ubuntu but can be accessed at all times (any app). just touch on the edge of the screen and swipe right. There's a free one to try out without the customisation.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.np.omkar.unity&feature=nav_other#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDYsImNvbS5ucC5vbWthci51bml0eSJd

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l320/Gpdazzle/Screenshot_2013-02-20-08-55-37.jpg
09:01am 20/02/13 Permalink
Nathan
Brisbane, Queensland
4156 posts
If you cant get enough ways of launching applications, you might also like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.decad3nce.quickly - it lets you launch your favourite apps from the notification tray.
10:38am 20/02/13 Permalink
natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
8119 posts
09:52pm 20/02/13 Permalink
Opec
Brisbane, Queensland
7727 posts
swiftkey4 got released. includes swiping. http://ausdroid.net/2013/02/20/swiftkey-4-featuring-swiftkey-flow-released-to-google-play/get it now while it's on specialhttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.touchtype.swiftkey


That's the one app that I missed the most from Android platform.... such and awesome keyboard.
10:31pm 20/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21419 posts
swiftkey4 got released. includes swiping. http://ausdroid.net/2013/02/20/swiftkey-4-featuring-swiftkey-flow-released-to-google-play/get it now while it's on specialhttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.touchtype.swiftkey

After I got this infobox popup on my phone, and saw the privacy policy belongs to swiftkey, I refuse to ever touch swiftkey with a pole. I get that it would collect s*** you type in SMS's, but also credit card numbers, your name, address, pretty much everything EXCEPT passwords? Ahahahha, no. F*** that.
http://i.imgur.com/w7sjkDr.jpg

I also don't use the keyboard to which that infobox belongs (stock samsung keyboard, using swiftkey's prediction stuff).
10:39pm 20/02/13 Permalink
kos
Germany
2519 posts
I get that it would collect s*** you type in SMS's, but also credit card numbers, your name, address, pretty much everything EXCEPT passwords? Ahahahha, no. F*** that.

Uh, it's not like it can magically detect what is a password and what is a credit card number and ignore one and not the other.

The only thing it's saying there is that the keyboard won't use any of its fancy-pants functionality on password fields (as in the ones where the characters are concealed by dots/asterisks).
12:25am 21/02/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
21423 posts
either way, enter your full name, billing address and credit card number and oh wait, now it's stored somewhere on the internet. Prime target for hackers. Yep, sure won't be any issues there no siree.
12:27am 21/02/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2837 posts
Isn't that the same privacy warning you get with every 3rd party keyboard?

Also I wasp laying with swiftkeyboard the other night and it had a niggiling bug where the space bar wouldnt input the predicted text. I did some searching and it seems like its been a problem for a long time.

Has this fixed it? lol
12:54am 21/02/13 Permalink
Rdizz
Germany
2331 posts
After I got this infobox popup on my phone, and saw the privacy policy belongs to swiftkey, I refuse to ever touch swiftkey with a pole. I get that it would collect s*** you type in SMS's, but also credit card numbers, your name, address, pretty much everything EXCEPT passwords? Ahahahha, no. F*** that.


I too was pushed away from swift key by that.
01:10am 21/02/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2838 posts
yes it has. ohh yeah.
01:35am 21/02/13 Permalink
natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
8121 posts
it's funny how the extra info android gives you makes you paranoid. Every smartphone I've ever owned has done predictive spelling based on my previous use. That was the inconvenience of getting a new phone, waiting for it to learn all the obscenities.
09:21am 21/02/13 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
21013 posts
Haha yes, having to teach it swear words again sucks
10:27am 21/02/13 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
6410 posts
If you had google backup on your last device (the cloud backup that happens to your google account) it should grab all your words automatically again..

I formatted my phone half a week ago as i went to the latest AOSP and was going to change some of my stuff, but within half an hour it had almost every setting including wifi network information...
11:14am 21/02/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
13357 posts
AOSP? or AOKP?

I just recently pushed Cyanogenmod 10.0 onto my SGS 1, runs awesome. I was using AOKP prior to that.

I still can't find a setting to reduce WIFI power use. Like reduce the polling rate or turn it off when the phone is in sleep mode. Battery stats show wifi in use even when screen is off, grrr.
11:22am 21/02/13 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
6411 posts
AOSP for me, makes my s3 more or less like my brothers nexus 4..
11:28am 21/02/13 Permalink
csirac
Brisbane, Queensland
2839 posts
I thought having wifi connected while the phone was sleeping uses less power than it sleeping in 3g?
12:22pm 21/02/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
13358 posts
It probably does csirac. I just remember a setting that reduced my wifi power usuage, I think it was with AOKP.

What utility apps is everyone using?

I've got (all free)
Battery Monitor Widget <-- really good battery usuage stats and other stuff
Semaphore Kernal Manager <-- Lets you muck around with all sorts of stuff at the kernal level of your phone.
Theme Chooser <-- Basically an app that collates hundreds of themes from the app store and allows you to easily download them.
Boot Animations <-- same as above except for boot animations
Titanium Backup


02:17pm 21/02/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
13360 posts
Phwore.

So in 12 hours of standby mode, my SGS1 used a mighty 1% of battery life.
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