This coming season looks pretty good, and apparently deals with one of the most popular arcs from the comics (I haven't read the comics, but the first thing ANYONE seems to mention about the Walking Dead comics is the Governer stuff).
I never got into the TV Series, but after being spoiled by the Telltale games, is it worth watching?
if you wanted the minimum you could probably get by with season 1 then season 2 eps ( 1,2, 7, 9,10,11,12) even ep 9 is really only important for the last few minutes
I am really looking forward to season 3, the talk is that they have apparently fixed a lot of the issues of pacing and shitiness that plagued (giggle) s2. Plus they also are getting more $$$ for this season as well from AMC finally.
Great start to the seasons Spoiler: way more survivors in the prison then in the comic, spose they had to add some more characters since they killed heaps off
can't wait for the rest.
Governor was my favorite story line but the recent story line in the comics is pretty top shit too.
It was a great episode and the season looks good. I like the progression of attitude to the walkers, really starting to take it to them.
IMO spoilers from the TV SHOW should be ok, and spoilers reserved for stuff that's in the comics. Just like GOT, discussion about what's happened to date on air is fine! Why you'd read a thread about the show if you're not up to date (and hate spoilers) beats me.
Excellent comeback. In the previous seasons all they did was walk, complain and do stupid things to jeopardise each others' lives. Now they actually have some experience and are coordinating well as a single unit, following smart decisions and killing/surviving in a creative way - which is fairly fresh for zombie shows/movies.
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I disagree. The general accepted rule is that if it's aired somewhere in the world, then it's ok to discuss it. We can't cater for everyone's viewing habits and schedules. Don't read the thread if you're behind (even if it's just a day or two).
Pretty good start, though a bit annoyed they didnt flesh out sword-girl as a character any further. Felt like her and Andrea's brief screentime was just to remind you that yes, they still exist.
Excellent comeback. In the previous seasons all they did was walk, complain and do stupid things to jeopardise each others' lives. Now they actually have some experience and are coordinating well as a single unit, following smart decisions and killing/surviving in a creative way - which is fairly fresh for zombie shows/movies.
Like wander down darkened corridors, and not stop to introduce head trauma to any corpses that don't appear to have previously-inflicted head trauma? Herschel says "hi"
Excellent comeback. In the previous seasons all they did was walk, complain and do stupid things to jeopardise each others' lives. Now they actually have some experience and are coordinating well as a single unit, following smart decisions and killing/surviving in a creative way.
Only something minor about that, but when they were gearing up with bullet proof vests... firstly zombies dont use guns, and secondly maybe have the chicks wear long sleeved shirts or something, but then you dont have the asian guy "checking for scratches".
And wouldnt you be putting a knife through the head of everything dead by this point? Other than that though, seems better than last seasons opener with the "Hey its all clear" "wait where did those 500 zombies come from"
They're already infected. So Blood splatter wouldn't matter so much.
Not sure what the bite does, if it accelerate/instigates the change or just leads to blood loss / trauma then death which is the cause for zombification.
I think the "classic" zombie lore is everyone who dies becomes a zombie, and zombie bites are always fatal. I think blondies sister was bitten in season one.
That was one hell of an opening scene/start to s3. Normally I'm pretty picky about TV but I can't say I've found the show to be overly boring like some of you. Maybe I'm just a sucker for zombies... Sure it's no Magnum P.I. or Simon and Simon, but it'll do just fine.
Having said that there are a few plot holes, gloss overs etc, which you'd think given the scrutiny by the larger nerd and geek community (and how we love to pick shit to pieces) the writers would have ensured a watertight script this time around.
A couple for me were:
1) Why was the prison 'unlocked'? They pretty much just marched in through unlocked doors and were able to take refuge in unlocked rooms. Did someone go around unlocking all the doors when they realised the prison was being overrun with the undead "just in case"?
2) They don't mention the smell. Now they are probably used to it by now but they have mostly been outside and in a secure(?) farmhouse. Littered with bodies and what not, and closed up for any length of time that prison would need a serious nozzle worth of Glen 20. But nope. Sweet as bro.
3) Pregnant lady doesn't walk like she's pregnant. She looks like a lady with a cushion shoved up her shirt.
4) The blood spray was also a concern. The first thing you'd get would be shitloads of surgical gloves/rubber gloves, wrap your hands with bandages, bits of material etc. Glasses, goggles and surgical masks or bandanas, handkerchiefs etc
They're already infected. So Blood splatter wouldn't matter so much. Not sure what the bite does, if it accelerate/instigates the change or just leads to blood loss / trauma then death which is the cause for zombification.
What are you basing this on? They may be dormant carriers or immune or just not infected. My guess is the virus is like HIV/AIDS where blood/body fluid contact has to be made eg old matey who gets dripped in the eye. A bite is game over because it actively changes the person from living to living dead through blood contact. It's not about blood loss or trauma.
In other movies/books etc if the person dies of natural causes, i.e. not through contact with a zombie, either during the outbreak or prior to the outbreak, they still rise up and thirst for brains. Zombies claw their way out of graves etc This suggests less a virus and more a supernatural effect.
I think modern zombies movies tend to viral outbreak and therefore there would have to be contact.
I shall consult my Zombie Survival Guide for more info.
PS Death can be avoided if bitten on an extremity and the limb is unceremoniously hacked off (preferably with an axe or chainsaw) before infected blood reaches the rest of the body. It's a last resort but I feel like it's unlikely that, unless the victim was standing next to a running table saw or similar and the amputator was quick on the draw, this would actually work.
Still, it worked for Ash, and he was working solo.
Any doctors here who can confirm/deny using a similar real life situation eg a potentially fatal snakebite (given there was no other options) that "lopping it off at the wrist" would stop poison/venom/zombie juice getting into the rest of the bloodstream? Worth a shot I guess.
Food for thought.
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How about the end of Season 1 where the CDC guy tells Rick they're all already infected? Or the end of Season 2 where Rick tells everyone else they're all already infected? Was a pretty major plot point, not some little sidenote.
You can slow, almost to the point of stopping, Snake poison with proper use of compression bandages. But it's not a 100% stop so traces of the poison/virus would get through. As I said though, they're all already infected so there would have to be some other explination as to why the bite would instigate/accelerate the change... maybe poisin salavia :p ? Which would mean that lopping off the limb (if done quick enough) would actually, sometimes, work.
I doubt the guards, fleeing for their life, would stop to lock the gates behind them. This would allow them passage from the outside to some pretty sensitive areas (security areas where the guards ran from/others didn't make it out from) After they found the first set of keys, movement is unrestricted. Also, most cell blocks have a mass unlock feature, so it makes sense that all the cells in a block would be unlocked.
the virus from a zombie bite is probably more potent strain than the airborn one that they're already infected with. that's why a bite will kill and reanimate them and the airborn only reanimates if you die from some other cause.
My weapon of choice is a brush cutter. Reach, sturdy, I have one.
I also have an Axe, Machete and Tomahawk at the ready. High up on the list is also my 3 pound Mini-Sledge hammer, bashed skull is as good as a sliced one.
I always just assumed the bite just killed via normal means of infection. A komodo dragon bite is often fatal, purely from the infection that comes with the bite, as their mouth is a festering shithole. I imagine the mouth of a zombie isn't any better.
The good news is now that Herschel's fucked up Rick Jr can make some moves in his quest to smash up the old man's other daughter. Kid is sure growing up fast.
Through most of the episode I was like "Why do people keep saying this Governer stuff is so fucked up? He seems like hes a got a good thing going on", but then the ending changed my mind a little. Awesome ep though, this season is just kicking ass.
Yeah the heads thing at the end changed my POV on him a bit too... i was thinking the same, ruthless, but he's gotta do what he's gotta do to protect his community, and then boom..... pyscho alert.
Latest ep was damn cool. Finally the show is starting to kick some serious ass although that black chick is starting to annoy me. She's got that whole attitude thing going on which really sucks.
it's kind of funny that t-dog received more character development in this one episode then he did in the previous 2 seasons.
I think he probably had more lines in that one episode too, than in the previous 2 seasons.
Was anyone else expecting a zombie baby to come out of her? I was just waiting for the messed up twist, like they've gone through all this, and killed her, and the baby is some dead zombie mutant thing.
Wow the latest ep was heavy.
Possibly due to dose of Codral I took just prior for raging man flu but the ending was pretty gut wrenching stuff (pun intended for mature audiences).
"Blondie" is the new Lori and she is gonna kick herself when she finds those heads (based on my assumption of what might happen so not spoiler).
Michonne should GTFO and leave Andrea to look stupid while she gets DP'd by The Governor "Philip" and Merle in the head room (again my [not serious] suggestion of how it might progress).
Saint: Spoiler: She dies with the baby in her arms while escaping from the prison when all shit breaks loose. Similar, but interesting how they're going to resolve it now.
Saint: Spoiler:She dies with the baby in her arms while escaping from the prison when all shit breaks loose.Similar, but interesting how they're going to resolve it now.
Are we expecting to see Rick loose it and go nuts?
I agree, I am forced to believe the black chick and blonde are in a lesbian relationship cos the black chick doesn't give a shit about anything.. don't know why she's hanging around waiting on blondie.
I dunno what the story is cos I haven't ever read the comics, so I could be going in completely the wrong direction with it, but I got a bit of a vibe from the Governer bits that he wants to bring back his dead wife and kid. Cos hes got that lab set up where hes cutting up and doing all the research on the undead and it looked like he was doing experiments to see what animates/reanimates them, and maybe thats why hes so fascinated by the heads in the tanks that stay alive.
I dunno, I just got that feeling, especially after that showed the closeup of the picture of his family before he wanders in to look at his heads. Or maybe hes just crazy.
That's a cool theory Khel. He'll bring her back to life and for a moment she'll look into his eyes all innocent like, and he'll shed a tear knowing he has her back again. And then she'll suddenly lash out going berserk infecting him and then their little town will be overrun by the undead.
The comic and novel don't seem to give him an ulterior motive like reviving the dead or anything, but the show might be different. They just portray him as completely and utterly drunk on power itself.
Love this series almost as much as the Gameof Thrones.... Agree Lori needed to fark off thw whinging biatch... Last ep on season 2 she pushes carl away cos he tells her he killed his mate and first episode in season 3 she is wondering why Carl is cold to her.... Bitch sort your self out!
Blonde chick asks psycho redneck if the governor is a decent guy.... really? I thought once he said yes she was going to say she was out of there for sure.
Other than that good stuff, pretty sure the baby isnt going to last for long just because its a baby and at the least i doubt a male prison is stocked up on formula. Also i thought more care might have been taken with that caesarian.
Love this series almost as much as the Gameof Thrones.... Agree Lori needed to fark off thw whinging biatch... Last ep on season 2 she pushes carl away cos he tells her he killed his mate and first episode in season 3 she is wondering why Carl is cold to her.... Bitch sort your self out!
I think you mean Rick. Carl is the kid. Drollzy sort yourself out!
You have to admit Season 2 was the best way to waste time... Out of the whole season the first and last 2 were the only ones worth watching... Season 3 tho GODAYUM now thats what i'm talking about...
Just started playing the walking dead episodes... its a not too bad.... Missus loves it
It wasn't too clear but Greg Nicotero (EP, director & sfx guru) says that was supposed to be a walker that ate Lori's body and that they did a full gut and hair hanging out of its mouth to kinda show it.
Wasn't obvious to me, I came here to post the same thing, I couldn't figure who that zombie was meant to be. I was thinking why does it look nothing like Rick's wife and why is she pregnant again after they already cut the baby out, didn't even occur to me it was a different walker that ate her body, cos that means it ate her WHOLE body and thats quite a feat. Most we've ever seen walkers do is pick at bodies and tear bits off them not eat a whole one. And it did it all in the space of a couple of hours as well.
I was thinking to myself, why does he look so angry and is just ramming his gun into his zombie wife's face like that, like he wants to hate fuck it, didn't make any sense. Apart from that scene though, pretty cool episode, though the black chick is becoming more and more annoying every episode.
Same as rrrocket and khel. No idea about that corpse that looked like it was pregnant. Lori or not? Khel hasn't steered anyone wrong on pretty much any TV show so far, so keep up the good work.... no really keep it up.
I thought it was pretty obvious it was a zombie who ate her body. At the start of the scene I thought the blood trail was her crawling away and the zombie he found was going to be her, but when it looked nothing like her and looked like it'd just had a massive feed I thought it was pretty obvious.
Same as rrrocket and khel. No idea about that corpse that looked like it was pregnant. Lori or not?
Jeez seriously? There was a pool of blood where an obviously 'new' corpse had been, a trail of blood leading to a zombie who was obviously so full (see large gut) BECAUSE HE HAD EATEN A CORPSE that he couldnt move. The previous ep made it pretty clear that the kid shot his mum in the head so she 'wouldn't turn' so how could it be her?
Anyway, kinda weird with that dude combing his zombie kid's hair. Creeeepy!
Not disagreeing that it's not her, but...
Don't know if it's the norm for the comic books cos I haven't read them, but this is the first time I've seen a bloated zombie in this series. Was Lori more delicious than everyone else who has died?
Maybe the writers wanted to make sure she would never ever be able to come back because her character sucked so much so they had a zombie eat every last piece of her. Now if only they would do that with the snooping black chick.
Yeah, I'm not debating it was her, just seemed like a very confusing scene. When rick picked up the bullet it looked like it had been shot into the ground so then I was left thinking "Oh Carl didn't shoot his mum after all and shes turned into a zombie, thats why the body isn't there anymore", then you hear a zombie moaning so I assumed it was her, and then its a zombie that looks nothing like her but looks like its pregnant and I just got confused.
I mean, its not like they've ever set any precedent in the show for zombies eating entire corpses, so I dunno why I was expected to leap to that conclusion, if they wanted to make it more clear they could have had the zombie chilling out finishing off the corpse, like still munching on a leg or something, or had some bits on the ground next to him that he hadn't finished getting through yet.
And I'm sure Michonne is all hardcore and a great character in the comics and people love her and all that, but as someone who hasn't read them and is just watching the show, shes really annoying. She comes accross as some kind of spoilt kid that is throwing a tantrum cos she didn't get her way and then pouting about it afterwards, and then she has some super important reasons not to be there but wont tell the only friend she has in the entire world that shes spent the last 8 months with. Started off as a promising character, but has since become my least favourite character in the whole show. She brings back the season 2 feeling of yelling at the tv "Fucking idiot, why would anyone do that".
The other weird thing with the episode was how they dug three graves and were talking about how three of their people had died, but I couldn't remember who the third one was. Wasn't until Daryll went to the grave and put the flower on it I realised they were treating the religious woman as dead, but I didn't realise she was meant to be dead, since all they found was her scarf last episode I figured she was just considered missing. Which then made me wonder, what the hell did they bury and why did they need to dig a grave for her when they never found the body?
But then in the "Next week on the walking dead" bit it seems like they're going to follow that up and Daryll realises shes still alive so I guess that solves that one. Still, kind of odd they didn't even go looking for her, they just found her scarf and pronounced her dead.
I've read the comics and still think Michonne is getting a little tiring.
She's in her element when she's swinging the katana and having D&M talks with Rick about the end of the world, but up until this point she's just been making angry sneering faces at the various Woodbury folks. The bit where she let off a little steam with those caged walkers was one of the few good parts.
Yeah thats what I was thinking demon, thats why it never occured to me the zombie ate her cos wtf, how? And a WHOLE person, thats a lot of volume, I mean its stomach was bloated sure, but bloated enough for an entire grown adult to be in there?
Zombie should have been gnawing on a leg, while a chewed up pelvis laid nearby, and it was wearing her head as a hat.
I still think that Gina Torres would have been an awesome Michonne.
Or Trish Goddard.
The zombie eating a whole corpse is a little far-fetched. Maybe the zombie was pregnant and was also eating for 2. COMPARED to other zombies, that one didnt look to 'healthy'. Maybe its a weird mutant hybrid zombie. Who knows?
Yeah, I'm not debating it was her, just seemed like a very confusing scene. When rick picked up the bullet it looked like it had been shot into the ground so then I was left thinking "Oh Carl didn't shoot his mum after all and shes turned into a zombie, thats why the body isn't there anymore", then you hear a zombie moaning so I assumed it was her, and then its a zombie that looks nothing like her but looks like its pregnant and I just got confused.
Awesome! I know I'll be shot down here, but fuck it....
What if Carl didn't shoot mum and the missing Carol (trained to do C-sections by Hershel) came in for the quick evac?
Also, apart from the boots and jeans I didn't see any other clothes lying around, zombies eats shirts, bras and bones?
And this one is a stretch, but the bullet didn't have any blood on it?
I know it is supposed to obvious, but that whole fucking scene was too weird.
Awesome! I know I'll be shot down here, but fuck it....
What if Carl didn't shoot mum and the missing Carol (trained to do C-sections by Hershel) came in for the quick evac?
Also, apart from the boots and jeans I didn't see any other clothes lying around, zombies eats shirts, bras and bones?
And this one is a stretch, but the bullet didn't have any blood on it?
I know it is supposed to obvious, but that whole fucking scene was too weird.
Didn't the CDC guy say something about this, way back in season 1?
Yeah, I think he said something about how they were working with scientists in France to try and find a cure, and then France went dead, so safe to assume its at least taken over Europe as well.
Why hasnt any other country in the world come to Americas aid? Is this shit global?
I assume you're being sarcastic but, like haven't you watched any other mega-disaster movie? It only ever, ever happens in America. So, if you believe in the apocalypse you're in the right place because Australia (and the rest of the world) will be spared.
Guys, give up on Lori. She is D E A D dead.
Clearly there is a setup happening where these two groups are going to meet and I, sir, cannot wait! :)
I was slightly confused by the zombie eating lori bit for a second too, i thought Rick was going to look for her wedding ring or something though.
Also if a zombie eats an entire corpse, where do new zombies come from? I think thats one of the things you just have to suspend disbelief for though.
And yeah black chick is annoying, heaps of shows do the same thing though "dont do it i cant tell you why you just have to trust me even though i could have told you why in the exact same amount of time that this sentence has taken but it would give too much away and we want you to watch next week", and i think her annoyingness is compounded by blondies stupidity/ignorance, it's like a perfect storm of shit writing.
Once someone turns into a Zombie, the other Zombies don't want to eat them. But if someone dies and doesn't turn, then "omnomnomnom" time until they are all gone.
As for where new ones come from. They come from people dying but dying in a way or somewhere where they have a chance to turn without being eaten all up. I'd imagine this would still happen a fair bit.
Thats my 2cents.
Also, i was so hopeing to see some fucked up zombie babies crawling around in that day care. I guess them showing the good guys stomping babies heads in is a bit tough to get by the bosses. :)
I too was waiting for a zombie baby to jump out from somewhere.....which got me to thinking, would a zombie baby be able to walk or would they be bound by the skill level they achieved while living?
would they be bound by the skill level they achieved while living?
hahah, well put
Even clearing out an island isnt a great help (unless you want to live on your own), since as soon as someone carks it from natural causes you've got a potential zombie outbreak again
Yeah, thats what I was wondering with the governer's perfect town, what if an old person dies in their sleep and you end up with a zombie inside the walls and you don't even realise? Surely it can't last!
Everyone should be locked in to the room they sleep at night to prevent people who die in the night killing everything. But then what happens if you need a quick escape? Fumble with your keys and waste precious time. Both options are risky. I suppose it would depend where you are.
I meant on the scale of how many fucking zombies there are, when shit went down i imagine most of the zombies were from bites, as according to google only 155000 people die a day. (before zombies) Maybe zombies are just really really spoilt? "Brains brains brains" takes one bite "meh i want something else, maybe mexican"
Everyone should be locked in to the room they sleep at night to prevent people who die in the night killing everything.
i thought the same thing, but it would actually be simple, zombies can pretty much just push things, so...
Whoever recommended watching the Talking Dead, i thank you. A bit cheesy American, but worth it for things like :
Interviews with cast and directors/producers Behind the scenes (i.e zombie fight club) Slo-mo zombie death recounts Indepth analysis (well sorta. more so than anywhere else but)
Welp, after watching this episode (6), and seeing the trailer for next week's, I can't help but feel that...*comic spoiler*Spoiler:..the TV version's trend of character fate deviation will see Maggie be the victim of some surprise sex from Le Govenor?
Yeah I think I can see that coming too, for a society that seems to have broken down we haven't really seen any seriously messed up sex offenders or the likes, cept for maybe the Governor, who I expect will eventually add Andrea's head to his collection.
One thing I noticed in latest ep was at one point Michonne gets zombie blood in her mouth and spits it out. camera Cuts off pretty quick, I'd say a squib missed the target while filming, but still... you can get blood in your mouth and not turn? Bullshit.
the survivors must have some sort of resistance since a. they are all infected and will turn as soon as they die and b. arnt zombies
i think there is levels of resistance since i remember last season they were checking for scratches - whereas now they just need to pull the teeth out of the zombies - so if you have survived this long you must be highly resistant and would need a direct bite to die/turn
it also would explain why they dont turn from all the blood splatter to the face
i love this show since it got me to philosophise over the zombie apocalypse :)
also how did rick get cleaned up so fast? he went from blood splatter lunatic face to just got out of the shower fresh face in 10 mins - there is no running water since they were talking about digging a ditch under the fence for the water
and why does no one else have ninja swords... or polearms.. or more weapons.. its the deep south.. there would be a gun shop on every street corner
Yes, the "nerd rage" would be the side-stepping of the rape (though it was a different character).
Next week is the last episode for a couple of months. As like last year's mid-season finale, I'm expecting a 'holy shit' moment - placing a bet on Daryl getting offed.
Yeah, I haven't read the comics, but someone mentioned earlier in the thread that the Governer gets a bit rapey with someone. I didn't really care that they didn't go that far though, that scene was disturbing and uncomfortable enough as it was.
Michonne is still illogical and annoying though. Walks all the way to the prison, carrying the basket of supplies they need, and then is all "Fuck you, I didn't ask for your help, screw you all now that you've saved my life". Yeah, she came round in the end, but it was just stupid that she got so angry and defensive and abused the people she actively sought out to help her.
Just watching the latest ep now. If you go to 9:51 and check out the guys rifle. The top half of his gun is bent. LOL Maybe it's just me but it stands out a mile a way.
props to glen, he & darryl are the best characters in the show.
Yeah you're not wrong. Unfortunately the audience taking a liking to those characters just means one or both of them are going to die heh.
Yeah, she came round in the end, but it was just stupid that she got so angry and defensive and abused the people she actively sought out to help her.
I can't help but think those scenes are straight out of the Kristen Stewart school of acting and directing, where you convey all the emotion in the scene by holding the camera on a pained facial expression. The kind of facial expressions that would otherwise only be used when taking a big dump.
hey c'mon... olympic targets don't shuffle n stumble ;) but yeh.. she totally sucked :p
i don't really find michonne to be that annoying.. just comes across as a total loner hardarse forced to rely on the help of others & pretty pissed off about it :)
Yeah, I haven't read the comics, but someone mentioned earlier in the thread that the Governer gets a bit rapey with someone. I didn't really care that they didn't go that far though, that scene was disturbing and uncomfortable enough as it was.
Michonne is still illogical and annoying though. Walks all the way to the prison, carrying the basket of supplies they need, and then is all "Fuck you, I didn't ask for your help, screw you all now that you've saved my life". Yeah, she came round in the end, but it was just stupid that she got so angry and defensive and abused the people she actively sought out to help her.
I'm glad they switched up the rapey ness that was in the comic with the alternative that was in the TV show, it was much much easier to feel bad for the charcaters, in the comic is rick and michone that get captured by the governor, michone gets torn to fucking pieces by cock and whilst fucking terrible her character is still new and you dont really feel as much for her as you would for say maggie (lets face it, everyone thinks maggie and glens relationship is just awesome). Spoiler: which is why its fucking terrible as shit when shes pregnant and glen gets his head beaten in with a baseball bat in issue 100
Michonne however is illogical and annoying... the comic goes into her backstory a little bit which makes her seem abit more human but for the most part she has giant trust issues, 100 issues into the comic and i still don't understand why shes still hanging around with rick and co.
One thing i loved with the ep though was the 1 vs 1 action between glen and the zombie, stuff like that happens abit through out the comic and not enough of it happens in the tv show.
I think michonne is annoying because she is the embodiment of the false tension building that these shows use where people don't say anything so the writers can drag things out a bit more.
Also old guy in the bed, Glasses really didnt think it through... hell a chest restraint and dont sit one foot from his face, or restrain his right arm at the elbow, maybe take the old farts dentures away or something, jeez.
It's classic crappy drama, the characters don't take the time to a) explain things clearly or b) listen to/allow each other to explain things clearly - if they did that half the shit wouldn't happen.
Yeah, I wondered why the restraint was around his wrist when the whole test revolved around him being able to lift his arm, hes a pretty crappy scientist if he didn't think of putting the restraint around the guy's upper arm instead.
It'll help him get as good a shot off as the archery chick. She seriously thought she was headed towards the olympics? She couldn't hit shit.
As an ex-archer, that scene totally threw me out. I was thinking "hell, this bitch looks like she's only just picked up a bow and fired a dozen arrows in her life".
Even after my first few months archery, I probably would have made that shot first time at that range, let alone after a few years of shooting.
Also, that bent gun barrel literally made me stop the video so I could roffle about it. I can't believe that got past the prop guys o.0
The story arc in the show is panning out to be better than the one in the comic. Comic is becoming yawn after 100 issues anyway. Also, archery chick uses a bow, Daryl uses a crossbow. Totally different. But yeah, she needs a bigger bow.
hell a chest restraint and dont sit one foot from his face, or restrain his right arm at the elbow, maybe take the old farts dentures away or something, jeez.
Fuck a muzzle would have done it.
What I don't get is why they think that clearing out the prison was such a big deal, Rick's group did it easy and would have done it easier if it wasn't for the alive inmates fucking them over. Governors crew could have got that done much quicker and easier.
What I don't get is why they think that clearing out the prison was such a big deal, Rick's group did it easy and would have done it easier if it wasn't for the alive inmates fucking them over. Governors crew could have got that done much quicker and easier.
Sounded like it was Merle that told them it couldn't be done, cos the governer was all "They did something you told me couldn't be done", so I guess he scouted out and thought fuck this, why bother and just made it sound really difficult.
Or Rick and his group are just complete badasses and the Governer's men are pussies. I guess you could also factor in Rick's group were deseperate and would have died without shelter, food, etc so they were pretty driven to do it by necessity. Whereas the Governer and his men were already comfortably set up so less need to take on the risk.
That, and Rick went psycho and went on a slashing spree in a fit of explosive rage. Plus, if the Woodbury guys with the guns are as good as 'Going to the olympics' Archery chick, then would need a hell of a lot more ammo.
They freaked when Andrea jumped the wall to take out 1 Walker, so I don't think they're use to melee killing of Zombies.
They did dispatch the Army guys pretty easily though...
That's why I never watch the previews. I hate that every fucking US TV show has previews at the end. Are people seriously that impatient/easily distracted that they can't go a fucking week without knowing what happens next? Shits me to tears.
Pfft, zombie apocalypse ammo is infinite like in Halo, there's always pickup at the location up ahead. Michonne may be annoying, but at least her weapon requires the least suspension of disbelief I guess.
She could of at least said 'Those people are your people' during the stare down with Andrea. How fucking hard is it for that bitch to say 5 fucking words!?
It really annoyed me how incompetent the survivors were in that fight. In the comics they kick guvna's fucking ass a couple times till he snaps and no longer wants to take over the prison and move woodbury, but just destroy it. Here he's just a petty twat.
Yeah, while this season has been awesome in general, that gun shootout was horrible. How did the guy get in the tower? How can nobody hit anything? Hershell is suddenly a ninja who can roll around in the grass.
Are we supposed to know who the woman (?) driving the zombie-filled van is? She seems to just disappear into thin air after getting out of the vehicle.
yeh the shootout scene was pretty lol... the guv standing there like colonel kilgore & not getting hit at all in a hail of automatic fire. but i guess it's fiction so it doesn't pay to ask too many questions about the holes in reality... otherwise you end up asking if zombies poop!?
I had to go look up the effective range of semi-automatic assault rifles after watching it, it's point target of 550m and area target of like 800m.. so they're all terrible shots!
While I do enjoy the character drama, the uneveness of pace with this show makes me think that AMC (the network commissioning the episode production) ordered 16 episodes but only provided a budget for 8-10.
Season 4 will have yet another new showrunner. We'll see what happens.
At least they showed where the black guy and his posse ended up, I had nfi whether they were still hanging around the prison or what, they just disappeared.
At least they showed where the black guy and his posse ended up, I had nfi whether they were still hanging around the prison or what, they just disappeared.
you must have missed the scene a few eps ago when rick told them to fuck off away from the prison.
you must have missed the scene a few eps ago when rick told them to fuck off away from the prison.
yeh.. but how did they even get away & all survive? they seemed like they were all gonna die just getting into the prison... then rick tells them to fuck off & they all wander off into the bush or suhn?
is it just me or are the zombies becoming less aggressive every episode? first season the zombs would smash through plate glass & be mad keen to bite a survivors face off... now it's like they can't be bothered crossing the road to lay some chomp on someone.
Yeah, what demon said, I know Rick told them to fuck off but then they just disappeared entirely from the story then suddenly show up near Woodbury like it ain't no thang.
now it's like they can't be bothered crossing the road to lay some chomp on someone.
Yeah, in season 1 the survivors had to cover themselves in zombie guts to get past.
Right now they stroll around freely and if any zombies look at them, they push a disabled zombie towards them and say "just waitin' for a mate" and the zombies move on ...
Same concept as 'small like a zombie' but without all the guts over you. Obviously not as effective, but it puts a 'Zombie smell' buffer between you and any zombies that want to eat you.
yeh but how does the zombie olfactory sense work at any range when there is zombie smell right there in the nostrils!!?! zombie poop i tells ya !!
Right now they stroll around freely and if any zombies look at them, they push a disabled zombie towards them and say "just waitin' for a mate" and the zombies move on ...
yeh but how does the zombie olfactory sense work at any range when there is zombie smell right there in the nostrils!!?! zombie poop i tells ya !!
When Andrea is walking the disabled zombie up one comes at her from a 4o'clockish angle with there was no disabled zombie between them. What scooter said basically :)
So why do groups of zombies attack then smartguy? Following that line of logic, if a zombies line of sight is blocked by another zombie he wont do anything. It's just dumb tv logic that you arent supposed to think about. If i were to think about it, i would say its more like the strange dish at a restaurant where no one eats it until someone else has a go first... zombie A sees zombie B right next to the human and not eating it, thus assumes it isnt worth eating.
I know Rick told them to fuck off but then they just disappeared entirely from the story then suddenly show up near Woodbury like it ain't no thang.
The shows only so long, i dont have a problem that they dont waste 30 seconds of an ep showing them saying "oh damn we miss the prison, i hope we find some nice psycho to help us get rvenge soon"
Why not? They waste plenty of time doing meaningless shit, they could have wasted a little bit of time actually filling in some story. Even a shot of them running out through the prison wall and killing a few zombies to clear a path would make it apparent they left, I wasn't even sure if they had left or just run off to a different part of the prison.
I was going to joke last week about how the show should be called DayZ, since nothing really happens except shootups between humans every once in a while.
So what happened in today's episode? ANDREA WALKED ACROSS THE ENTIRE FUCKING MAP.
So why do groups of zombies attack then smartguy? Following that line of logic, if a zombies line of sight is blocked by another zombie he wont do anything.
Herds move with herd instinct, same way that birds fly in formation?
Dear all the smarty pants in this thread,Why would a zombie (e.g. Merle) abandon devouring a fresh* corpse in favour of slowly chasing down a living human?(* = remember, it's fresh!)
Because the zombies are driven to spread the infection over all else?
AMC TV use that when it's a first run airing.They rerun a lot of episodes on Sundays (and during the week, too).This week, they're airing all three seasons during primetime hours in the lead up to Sunday.
Thanks for that makes sense now that has been frustrating me for almost 3 seasons.
I have yet to read all the comic books yet, but does it ever explain how the infection came about? if you respond maybe place it in spoiler tags so people that don't want to know don't find out?
The zombies in this show are fucking inconsistent as fuck.
Half the time they just walk past them and the zombies don't even react. And now of course it's been decided that zombies can't break anything like a car window. Anyone remember last season where zombies could break down fucking brick walls and shit?
I have yet to read all the comic books yet, but does it ever explain how the infection came about? if you respond maybe place it in spoiler tags so people that don't want to know don't find out?
I don't read the comics, but from what I know Spoiler: No, it has never been explained definitively, and Robert Kirkman has gone on record in the past to say that he's not really planning to ever explain it. Something about it not mattering (survival is the point, not the cure)
Why would a zombie (e.g. Merle) abandon devouring a fresh* corpse in favour of slowly chasing down a living human?
maybe the fresh corpse turned just at that moment... it still had a head right?
don't go down the road of zombie logic!
Half the time they just walk past them and the zombies don't even react. And now of course it's been decided that zombies can't break anything like a car window. Anyone remember last season where zombies could break down fucking brick walls and shit?
yeh the zombs just don't care like they used to...
also, lols @ glenn breaking the zomb chick's finger off to get his wedding ring :D
notice how every now and then there are 'ninja' zombies? By ninja I mean they can sneak up silently on the survivors whilst all the other zombies shuffle, moan and groan so much you can hear them coming a mile off.
Like in ep14 when Anrea walked off the road and lent beside a tree and all of a sudden a zombie grabs her through the branches.
I thought that last ep was pretty lame. Seemed to kill off a fairly central character pretty quickly over some random scheme to go and kill the governor by himself.
I thought that last ep was pretty lame. Seemed to kill off a fairly central character pretty quickly over some random scheme to go and kill the governor by himself.
I thought it was well done, Meryl wanted to get the job done he was always the tough guy in the group and wanted to prove himself to the group he had a very smart tactic too, took a few guys down.
I wouldn't really call Meryl a central character he was only in a couple of episodes in S1 and most of S3.
Wondering if the zombies are getting weaker since the muscles and tendon's are decomposing. Would love a companion piece to stories like this where they explain some of the science and rules behind the universe.
Wondering if the zombies are getting weaker since the muscles and tendon's are decomposing. Would love a companion piece to stories like this where they explain some of the science and rules behind the universe.
I think the only nod to the effect of time passing that has been given was that Greg Nicotero (directs a view episodes, head makeup and creature FX guy) noted that as the show progresses, the look of the walkers should show more and more decay. The colour and decomposition is gradually increasing with time.
the kid stepping in front just as he fired at the governor was pretty baddass too
That was the son (?) of the bearded guy in Team Tyrese. Guess he's going to be pissed.
There'll be a battle during the finale on Sunday, which will no doubt use 40% of the season's overall budget. I doubt it will include a tank.
(mostly because the producers used a helicopter in scenes early in the season, and any movie/tv show that uses a helicopter already blew a tonne of cash..)
Have a big night of TV viewing Sunday night with the season finale of Walking Dead and the season premiere of Game of Thrones. So much TV goodness what ever will I do :P
I think the only nod to the effect of time passing that has been given was that Greg Nicotero (directs a view episodes, head makeup and creature FX guy) noted that as the show progresses, the look of the walkers should show more and more decay. The colour and decomposition is gradually increasing with time
This is pretty interesting, because presumably the zombies would starve out or decompose to nothing after enough time? That's what happens in 28 Days Later at any rate.
I hope it's good. My prediction will be the prison will somehow be overrun by zombies during the battle and at the very end they'll be forced to move on and the next season will be set somewhere else.
EDIT: Damn it! The IMDB board is mostly negative about the finale. Also it's spoiler city so avoid if you get butthurt from seeing spoilers.
Anyone else get annoyed at Andrea constantly wasting time when trying to get free? It's not like taking her time is going to make him become a zombie any slower.
"You're going to be OK!" said Andrea stupidly to Milton as he bled out in minutes from four stab wounds to the chest. "I wanted to save everybody!" sighed Andrea, as she flailed with both dialog and pliers, simultaneously pushing the ironic exposition scene forward and the life saving tool backward. Andrea paused again to ponder whether zombie Milton would need to take two steps or three to reach the chair in which she sat chained helplessly. "Hurry the fuck up..." gurgled Milton as his last breath grew nearer. Milton knew that if he was soon to feed on her brains he wouldn't get a decent meal.
Was a bit of a snooze fest. Plus i dont think we saw the guy at the start get captured and tortured. It's like they ran out of money so couldn't cover it.
Also how the hell does a few flashbangs and 2 people shooting force a huge mob of armed men and women to retreat? wtf.
Was a bit of a snooze fest. Plus i dont think we saw the guy at the start get captured and tortured. It's like they ran out of money so couldn't cover it. Also how the hell does a few flashbangs and 2 people shooting force a huge mob of armed men and women to retreat? wtf.
You got to remember alot of those people that went were not soldiers
. It's like they ran out of money so couldn't cover it.
They've been saving the season's budget for the 30 seconds of blowing up and shooting at nothing in this last ep.
Also how the hell does a few flashbangs and 2 people shooting force a huge mob of armed men and women to retreat? wtf.
Don't forget the bit where the governor pulled them over and they complained it was a "slaughter", despite no one actually getting hurt (apart from the kid that carl shot - which they weren't aware of).
This show is like one of those long essays you have to write, and you just keep padding and padding with filler content hoping to get the required word-count.
Not how i thought it would go down and as a season finale i was totally unimpressed by it tbh... Built up over a heap of eps to this big epic showdown and it was a load of shit and over in 5 minutes... Rest of the ep spent trying to make people feel sorry for someone nobody gives a fuck about...
Like I said, just like an HBO finale. The meat is done and over within minutes, and the rest of the episode is slow, ploddy, and simply sets up the next season.
True Blood, Boardwalk Empire and Game of Thrones are all fine examples.
He's gone on a road trip with Martinez and the other dude (TWD wiki says his name is Shumpert). I'm presuming the writers have left it open for the Gov to come back, but IMO an awesome ending would have been a tense mexican standoff build up and then ending with a Reservoir Dogs style shootout between Gov, Martinez, Allen & others.
Yeah, by the end of that episode I was convinced that the season would be 18 eps long...
The fuck is going wrong here. The first season seemed pretty good, but this last season was fucking painful. Shit like the whole sequence with Andrea in this last episode... I get the impression that it would have worked far better in the comics. The way they just padded out that whole sequence of events in the show seriously just made Andrea seem pathetically slow.
Interesting what you learn about editing video watching some shows do things so right versus some of the shit that went down in this season.
Didnt Glen and Maggie shoot a few of them as they were fleeing? Or did they miss all their shots.
I don't think a single bullet connected with anyone in that entire scene. After inspecting the pixels, I believe most of the bullet holes / ricochet were done in CGI (have a look at when the utes got "hit", etc). Hell even the towers seems to be intact and only had smoke emanating from them despite being "blown up".
There seriously needs to be a change in writers. Almost every decision and reaction ever made in this season has been exactly the wrong one and very frustrating for the viewers.
Prime example was Andrea getting chased down by the governor in the abandoned building:
Real survival instinct: crouch and be very quiet, he will drive past as he OBVIOUSLY doesn't have time to inspect ALL buildings since he doesn't know you're in there. Andrea's instinct: continue walking around and kick a bucket full of nails/tools to make maximum noise and make your whereabouts known. Also, walk off instead of taking the car.
There seriously needs to be a change in writers. Almost every decision and reaction ever made in this season has been exactly the wrong one and very frustrating for the viewers.
I don't think it's the writers, this is the second lot they've had through - the original writers were sacked after the end of season 1. AMC is said to be a little bit nazi about the show behind the scenes. The original showrunner (Frank Darabont) was sacked, and now the current showrunner (Glen Mazzara) has quit.
To me it was the kind of ending I expect from a show that is unsure whether it will be renewed for another season: wrap up all the story lines, leave possibility for new story lines if you are renewed, and definitely avoid a cliffhanger.
In the context of opening the door for the show to change directions in the new season, I think that kind of ending also makes sense.
Almost every decision and reaction ever made in this season has been exactly the wrong one and very frustrating for the viewers.
Won't bother arguing a subjective opinion as I thoroughly enjoyed the season, but I will note the only objective evaluation we have: google tells me Season 3 has been the best season in terms of ratings.
I really enjoyed this Season, and thought the finale was great. It did indeed feel like a HBO show ending and I didn't have anything against that.
TWD is apparently one of the highest rating shows in the history of cable since the end of last season, so it was a shoe in for being renewed and why they got the much bigger budget this season.
The part 2 premiere of s3 had massive ratings, beating out NCIS, Big Bang Theory and Modern Family, so it's definitely gonna be around a couple more seasons if AMC has anything to do with it!
Yeah.. I mean shooting is difficult right? (I've never shot a weapon), but they've been doing it for a while and at 50-100m they should be able to hit something!? It's like they're shooting blanks.
If it's higher rated then Big Bang I don't understand why they didn't do more with the budget and cliffhanger the season to draw everyone in for S4.
At the end of season 2 everyone was a crack sniper. Come season 3 ending and no one can hit shit. Even if they took out half the Woodberry people it would have been acceptable. And then the Governor could have killed the rest for being weak.
By rights it should be over run with walkers now considering they took one of the main street gates (bus with steel sheets on side was transport for women and children from Woodbury back to prison).
By rights it should be over run with walkers now considering they took one of the main street gates (bus with steel sheets on side was transport for women and children from Woodbury back to prison)
would be pretty straight forward to lure a bunch of them out the main gate, then close it. Then slowly clear out the main area and rooms, like the prison.
I don't like how the walkers have basically become a non-issue. One person alone with a knife can seemingly walk around fine, just casually stabbing walkers in the head when they get close.
The walkers are just being used as a kind of weapon against other people.
I don't like how the walkers have basically become a non-issue. One person alone with a knife can seemingly walk around fine, just casually stabbing walkers in the head when they get close.
The walkers are just being used as a kind of weapon against other people.
i read an interview recently where they said they deliberately downplayed the zombies to focus on the human vs human aspect for this season. they also mentioned they want to make the zombies deadlier in season 4.
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