I've been assessing my diet lately and doing my best to remove all artificial colours, flavours, preservatives, etc from it. You may not be aware of the fucked fact that most artificial additives are derived from fossil fuels.
Every single one of these artificial colors are synthetically derived from coal tar. Every single one of these food colorings is a carcinogen.
If that's not bad enough, these colors also may cause asthma, hyperactivity, hives, malignant tumors, learning difficulties, lower IQ's in children, and lead to heart, liver, thyroid, stomach and reproduction difficulties.
Used in; Breakfast cereals, yogurt, soft drinks, candy, Gatorade. Basically used in just about all processed foods.
Recently there has been a massive overhaul of the classification of these products in Europe and a large amount of them have been banned there.
Human Beings evolved higher IQs because they started eating Meat.
Vegetarianism is Left Wing Politics designed to make the Sheeple docile and compliant.
Sure you could give a baby a quantity of some preservative to prove a point about it being bad for you. But there are some smart people who have figured out it's a good idea to add this in or else you will get typhoid or some shit.
The fact that some chemical can be derived from fossil fuel is totally irrelevant, and leading with that just makes you sound like you're full of shit.
The diseases blamed on the whole list of colors is questionably presented information at best, but more likely also complete bollocks.
Not sure you should be getting your info from a cracked style "top 10 list" on some shitty blog thing.
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." - Mahatma Gandhi
I have no issues with people eating meat, but that is not entirely correct FaceMan. I would like to see some credible sources from you this time.
It is true that eating meat was part of our evolution, but the real change to our brains did not occur until we started cooking the meat with fire and altering it chemically. More than two million years ago our ancestors started eating meat from carcasses killed by animals, then fashioned tools to kill the animals themselves. But it was not until a few hundred thousand years ago that the cooking began.
A vegetarian or even vegan diet is worthwhile and is perfectly healthy, usually even healthier than eating meat. Not that eating meat is unhealthy but people tend to combine it with oils and fats that make it worse.
Now with that out of the way let's try to stay on topic. I'm sure discussing detestable acts by major companies is something you can get behind FaceMan.
thermite if you eat fresh food there is no need for preservatives. The fact that a chemical in food can be derived from fossil fuels is not irrelevant, if you think that is healthy you are insane.
Sorry I didn't include any real sources. But I figured there is so much good info about this around that you can find it yourself if you're really interested.
whilst it is probably a good idea for general health to minimise the intake of artificial colours & flavours, that site linked in the op does not make a good case.
a positive outlook may be more important to overall health! (see, you can pretty much say anything if you put that _may_ in your statement).
I also love how the site randomly mentions "may contain MSG" like that's a bad thing? Like there is some well-known knowledge that MSG is in some way a negative thing. Pisses me off. So many haters, zero evidence.
However, researchers have found no definitive evidence of a link between MSG and these symptoms. Researchers acknowledge, though, that a small percentage of people may have short-term reactions to MSG. Symptoms are usually mild and don't require treatment. The only way to prevent a reaction is to avoid foods containing MSG.
If you wanna eat packaged/processed crap then they have to put some shit in there to make it look good, taste good, maintain shape, maintain shelf life etc.
I certainly dont have a perfect diet but considering how many people drink alcohol/soft drink, smoke, have excess body fat, dont exercise and do a whole host of other negatives, is the impact of a few food additives really that bad? I think you will find its often the case that the people affected either are either the legitimate .01% (and therefore does it really matter?), or consume a vast excess of the additive, or another overlooked factor is to blame.
Also, id be much more concerned with the cheap and nasty vegetable oils, rich in omega 6, that flood processed foods and create a omega 3:6 imbalance.
Okay - let's just believe everything on paper without context, shall we. Eg:
Dihydrogen monoxide:
- is called "hydroxyl acid", the substance is the major component of acid rain.
contributes to the "greenhouse effect".
- may cause severe burns.
- is fatal if inhaled.
- contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
- accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
- may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
- has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.
Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
- as an industrial solvent and coolant.
- in nuclear power plants.
- in the production of Styrofoam.
- a s a fire retardant.
- in many forms of cruel animal research.
- in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
- as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.
Religious Cults use vegetarianism to make their victims more susceptible to brainwashing. As their general health declines and they grow weaker they become even more relient on the Cult to sustain them.
A healthy Diet includes a variety of foods and that includes Meats.
A vegetarian or even vegan diet is worthwhile and is perfectly healthy
many doctors will tell you Children should not be on Vegan diets.
If its not healthy for kids is it really healthy for Adults ?
and adding vitamins and supplements is cheating.
All of this is undeniable. But hey, let's ban water!
Haha, oh dear. I guess I should have researched this a bit more. I still think on the whole it has weight though and there is clear evidence for a lot of it. Just a poor choice of article.
That is total bullshit that a vegetarian diet can lead to weakness and ill health, but you are right about veganism FaceMan. I'm a vegetarian and do not agree with the vegan philosophy because of deficiencies during infancy and the reliance on supplements. I meant it is worthwhile for adults who do not believe in using animal products and don't mind taking some supplements. Vegans have much higher protein and calcium requirements. Also there is no vitamin B12 in plant food.
I always wanted to eat more fresh food, veges etc, but the convenience of buying stuff pre made has always been just too easy and not worth all the effort of getting raw ingredients and cooking it yourself...
Thats changed though now. The Mrs has been onto me for ages about buying her a bloody Thermomix. 2K worth of glorified blender... but she assured me it would be a good investment, and well, it was her birthday so i caved...
Glad i did hey. Everything we eat now is all made from natural ingredients, no preservatives, no packaged shit, and it's great. Instead of buying sauces or spice mixes, she makes it herself... and that shit tastes fk tonnes better.
I also recently made myself a backyard aquaponics setup so i can grow my own veges and it's stocked with redclaw too. Bloody good feeling eating veges/redclaw you have grown yourself and knowing it's all good for you.
Yeah, the Dihydrogen monoxide hoax is lols. I remember Penn & Teller Bullshit did an ep on some hippie movement and they went around collected signatures to ban Dihydrogen monoxide.
A vegetarian or even vegan diet is worthwhile and is perfectly healthy, usually even healthier than eating meat. Not that eating meat is unhealthy but people tend to combine it with oils and fats that make it worse.
Didnt see this til faceman quoted it. While there are a fuckload of unhealthy meat eaters im gunna say that i strongly believe a quality diet containing meat is superior to a vegetarian or vegan diet. Veggos and vegans need to make a huge effort to get certain macro/micronutrients and even then might lack them. Supps can fill in the gap but i assume we are talking diet alone - no supps.
In previous articles I’ve alerted my meat-challenged readers (aka vegetarians) that they may be lacking in certain nutrients. After years of testing, some of the most common amino acid deficiencies I’ve seen are carnitine, carnosine, and taurine. People deficient in carnitine will have difficulty mobilizing fat to burn as energy. Taurine deficiencies can manifest in anxiety as well as poor muscle function. It is also very common to see zinc, iron and B12 to be low in vegetarians. Since zinc is involved in somewhere around 400 different enzymatic functions in the body, it’s extremely important to be replete with zinc.
A recent review in the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry—and who doesn’t love to just peruse that journal?—reviewed the impact of vegetarianism and veganism on various markers. The review looked at more than 30 years worth of research on the topic. The researchers from China found that vegetarians and especially vegans to be low in B12 and omega-3 fatty acids which are associated with elevated homocysteine and low plasma HDL. The researchers stated that this could increase the vegetarians risk of blood clots, heart attack and stroke.
As I like to tell my students, a vegetarian diet is great as long as you add some meat to it.
Why are you a Vegan ?
Meat is Murder ?
I despise the way we farm animals and for a few dollars more we could give them far better lives.
Artificial Meat is coming, It wont end Animal farming but it should mean that real meat will become more of a niche market and better treatment of Animals will likely come about.
Do you think Veganism makes Political choices for you ?
Is Veganism more than just not eating Meat ?
However, researchers have found no definitive evidence of a link between MSG and these symptoms. Researchers acknowledge, though, that a small percentage of people may have short-term reactions to MSG. Symptoms are usually mild and don't require treatment. The only way to prevent a reaction is to avoid foods containing MSG.
Wait, did you think you were creating some kind of eye-opening post by saying this?
My brother tried to convince me that Feng Shui was real. Except he called it "chong foo". Lesson: don't try to teach people bullshit when you don't even know enough to get the bullshit right.
Yeah, those fancy blenders are meant to be amazing.
Ive recently tried adding some greens into a protein blend as my preworkout meal. 2 bananas, some WPI, some honey, some quality natural yoghurt, water and 2 handful of those green mixes from supermarket then blend. Green in colour but tastes pretty good considering the greens it contains.
i rekn it would only take a small blip in the food supply chain & all vegans would quickly become omnivores again. there is just energy efficiency in eating the flesh of animals. also, it's delicious.
So why does cutting out artificial additives equate to cutting out meat? Eating fresh food doesn't mean just eating vegetables.
Not that eating meat is unhealthy but people tend to combine it with oils and fats that make it worse.
There is actually a number of healthy oils and fats, which you need (in moderation) for a healthy, well-rounded diet. Cutting oils and fats out of your diet completely is just as bad as having too much.
Veggos and vegans need to make a huge effort to get certain macro/micronutrients and even then might lack them. Supps can fill in the gap but i assume we are talking diet alone - no supps.
Agreed, I did the whole tofu for meat thing and all the other jazz a while back and tinkered with everything else to accommodate my lifting and exercise regime but still went pear shaped real fast, both physically and mentally and reverted pronto. Tofu is the devil! :)
SHMEAT That is what it has been called, excellent word. Also at the moment it is commercially not viable. Shmeat is a few years away yet, I bet KFC is the first to use it.
I think dias was separating good versus bad oils, which untwists the whole thing? I don't eat at home that often, im no chef and there are real chefs that I think deserve my food money.
So why does cutting out artificial additives equate to cutting out meat?
I agree, removing artificial additives, colours and flavours as much as possible from your diet can only be a good thing, whereas removing meat completely can lead you into all sorts of nutritional trouble. The post below OP turned out to be an awesome thread derailer.
I agree, removing artificial additives, colours and flavours as much as possible from your diet can only be a good thing, whereas removing meat completely can lead you into all sorts of nutritional trouble.
Totally agree. This is where the mrs thermo blender machine of expensiveness comes into it's own, because it can make pretty much anything from raw ingredients. Raw meaning no preservatives... ffs the thing can mill flour out of wheat.
Raw ingredients are always going to be win for taste and nutritional value. I'm happy i can still eat the same things as i always do, just without the rubbish additives. Plenty of meat, plenty of veges etc. Keep it in a good balance, how can you go wrong.
Only FaceMan could genuinely believe that vegetarianism was a left-wing political conspiracy.
Also, artificial flavours and colours are for all intents and purposes chemically the same as natural flavours and colours, it's just how they're made. If you want the healthiest/most natural food, don't go for something with natural flavours added, go for one with no flavouring additives at all.
Had a BBQ once and this friend of my partners came along ans she was a hippy chick, she'd convinced her husband and kids to not eat meat.
We had to cook their vege food on the BBQ first so no meat would affect her kids.
Apparantly the husband eats meat when the wife isnt around LOL
Human Beings evolved higher IQs because they started eating Meat.
It is true that eating meat was part of our evolution, but the real change to our brains did not occur until we started cooking the meat with fire and altering it chemically.
no and no..
our brain case and brain size evolved to be bigger after we developed stone tools..
we used those tools to break bones and eat the marrow out of them, up until then we only ate the meat.. the additional 1300 calories a year or so that this boost provided was enough to trigger the evolution of the brain..
Tooled up But around two million years ago, telltale cut marks on the surface of animal bones reveal that early humans were using crude stone tools to smash open the bones and extract the marrow. Stone tools allowed early Homo to get at a food source that no other creature was able to obtain - bone marrow. Bone marrow contains long chain fatty acids that are vital for brain growth and development. This helped further fuel the increase in brain size, allowing our ancestors to make more complex tools. The tools made by habilis are called 'Oldowan tools'. The process used to make these tools was incredibly simple. Hominids picked up one stone, known as a core and broke it with another, known as a hammerstone or percussor. This gave them a sharp cutting edge that could pass through an animal's hide.
The meat might have come first but looking at the myriad carnivorous species that have been around much longer than Homo Sapiens, it's pretty conclusive that we are not an intelligent species because we ate meat.
We should start a new type of vegetarianism wherein we kill animals only for their bone marrow and then discard the rest.
we used those tools to break bones and eat the marrow out of them, up until then we only ate the meat.. the additional 1300 calories a year or so that this boost provided was enough to trigger the evolution of the brain..
Didn't know that about the marrow. My comment was based on this:
I had a really smart terrier who passed this year at the age of 17. He used to love eating the marrow out of bones and would steal them from his sister. She's a lovely dog too but he was exceedingly clever.
I realise evolution takes a lot longer than one life time, but I thought that was interesting.
Didnt that jurassic park dude (sam neill??) say humans evolved from monkeys because of red meat or something. Id take the word of a jurassic park scientist over a veggo/vegan hippie any day. Fucking veggos.
I have to say as a vegetarian I find the generally overbearing behaviour of vegans very annoying, to say the least. Like I said earlier I have no problem with people eating meat and acknowledge the benefits it has provided humanity with.
I like my protein like I like my men... hot and black.
Mostly from eggs, dairy and nuts. Lots of nuts.
Like I said previously vegans have considerably higher protein requirements than vegetarians because they don't have dairy or eggs in their diet. Vegetarians usually get enough protein.
Not trying to nitpick but i dunno about that "vegans have considerably higher protein requirements" statement. From a simple perspective i would say a person's protein intake is the same irregardless of diet. I would agree that a vegan has to make more effort to get adequate protein intake but thats different to having a higher protein requirement. Working with a bare minimum of 1g protein per kg bodyweight, i would say this is constant for meat eaters, veggos and vegans.
Dunno your bodyweight but being a veggo im guessing thin. Lets say you need 80g of protein daily, assuming no exercise. Nut dominance, maybe 50% of protein with 25% from eggs and 25% from dairy. Using calorieking.com.au
40g protein from nuts - 170almonds (just over 200g) with a whopping 1200+ calories. 20g protein from eggs - 4 whole large eggs 10g protein full fat milk - 300ml 10g protein full fat yoghurt - 250g
Im guessing you might get some extra protein from diary so less reliance on nuts but as a rough guide hope thats helpful. Im studying nutrition so i love learning the macronutrients of food and protein intake of veggos is a particular interest of mine as i see far too many carb dominant, protein deficient veggos who think their handful of nuts and some tofu gets them adequate protein.
Dont get me wrong, im certainly no expert but i wouldnt rely solely on a blood test to evaluate your diet. I asked for a complete blood test a little while ago but wanted it bulk billed so only had a number of free options. As far as i can tell there is no indicator of protein (albumin + something else) although my daily intake is a few hundred grams so deficiency is not a problem. Plus my vit D wasnt tested which was a particular interest of mine but i hope that was because it wasnt free to test.
Also omega 3 bro. Dunno how that would show up on a blood test. Flax as a veggo option is all well and good but it doesnt have EPA/DHA so you need a fucktonne if you want any converted by your body.
Estimates of protein requirements of vegans vary, depending to some degree on diet choices
Based primar- ily on the lower digestibility of plant proteins, other groups have suggested that protein requirements of vegans may be increased by 30%to 35%for infants up to the age of 2 years, 20%to 30%for 2- to 6-year-old children, and 15% to 20% for those 6 years and older, in comparison with those of nonvegetarians
I'm not particularly thin and am about 80kg/184cm. Also from that document:
Plant protein canmeet requirementswhen a variety of plant foods is consumed and energy needs aremet.Research indicates that an assortment of plant foods eaten over the course of a day can pro- vide all essential amino acids and ensure adequate nitrogen reten- tion and use in healthy adults, thus complementary proteins do not need to be consumed at the same meal
I do take a flax seed oil capsule every day as well.
Another study, performed at the Research Institute of Nutrition in Slovakia studied a group of children ages 11-15 years over an average length of 3.4 years:
10 were semi-vegetarians, 15 were lacto-ovo vegetarians and seven were pure vegans. This group was compared to a group of 19 omnivores. Whereas the lacto-ovo vegetarians and the omnivore group showed exactly the same amount of Omega 3 in their blood, the semi-vegetarian group was somewhat deficient.
Lol dias dude. They talk about 'other groups', 'suggest' and 'may' and this all applies to kiddies. Dunno if you can extrapolate that to adult vegans.
I have no issue with plant proteins. Inferior to meat proteins AFAIK but if you eat a variety and enough they can meet your needs.
With regards to your omega 3 though, i recommend you look into that more. I dont think a study on kids in slovakia can be easily applied to adult veggos in other parts of the world. When i think about flax, i consider 15ml minimum, if not 30ml+ daily for those that dont consume fish. 1ml = 1 capsule. Also, not all flax capsules are vegetarian friendly in case you didnt know.
Also, from that same link you failed to mention:
"The Department of Food Science at the Australian RMIT University has indicated that typical omnivores have higher Omega 3 blood levels than vegetarians."
And
"In America, where Omega 3’s are usually obtained through cold-water fish and flax oil, many vegetarians don’t have the right amount of Omega 3 in their food."
Both of which are more relevant to your case IMO.
Also further down on that page: 1 tablespoon of flax oil per day seems to provide enough ALA for conversion to daily therapeutic amounts of EPA and DHA.
Not trying to go all anti veggo or anything but its shit like this that makes me lol @ veggos: "To get EPA and DHA in their diets, vegetarians should concentrate on leafy greens, cruciferous vegetables..." What bullshit. Where is the fat (and therefore omega 3) in veggies?
Well with all that in mind I guess I will just have to see how it pans out. Admittedly I haven't been a vegetarian for long. I was a pescetarian for a few months and years before that I went off pig and lamb.
I enjoy eating meat, so for me it is more of a moral issue. Although I said I don't have a problem with people eating meat (I think raising and killing animals is perfectly natural) I do have a problem with factory farming and our greed and mass consumption of animal products, the exploitation of animals if you will. The worst example I can think of is caged eggs, I only buy free range. I think we can do better in our treatment of animals, but of course for many it is all about the almighty dollar.
What is your take on a pescetarian diet? Fish is high in protein and omega 3 right?
The notion that saturated fat is evil should be challenged. Your parents probably grew up eating lard on toast. You probably ate chips when you were young that were deep fried in tallow. Yet year after year more and more people have high cholesterol and heart disease is getting worse despite all our supposed knowledge that saturated fat causes this.
saturated = bad
unsaturated = good
bullshit = high
ive changed my habits based on the following video. i dont eat any of those new fucked up oils, cotton seed, canola all that shit which breaks down and becomes rancid and toxic. which is more then likely rancid by the times its processed down to look like oil that is familiar to us.
Just wanted to add: I've been vegetarian my whole life up until last year when I started eating some maccas chicken purely because I was sick and tired of not being able to eat anything form there. Outside of that I havn't tried any other kind of meat, and dont really have any plans to do so either.
Its not hard these days to find meat alternatives etc. Tofu and Nutmeat almost exclusivly make up my meat substitutes when I cook up pasta, stir fry or anything else along those lines. It all tastes pretty good in my opinion and my omnivorous buddies all enjoy whatever i cook up.
If you aren't growing your own food yourself then you have no choice but to eat the bucket loads of toxins and artificial shit that is in virtually all mass produced foods these days.
In brief; it's about the scientifically proven benefits of fasting on the human body, the links between a growth hormone called IGF-1 and all the cancers plus most heat/cardiovascular disease - and how short periods of fasting greatly reduces your IGF-1 levels, as wel as your blood cholesterol, sugar, etc. Essentially the fasting periods switches your body from growth mode to repair mode, so it repairs cells instead of creating new ones.
It's only an hour long ro so, watch it! I'm starting the 5:2 diet this week.
What is your take on a pescetarian diet? Fish is high in protein and omega 3 right?
It gives you an easy source of animal protein (fish) as well as superior source of omega 3 compared to plant based sources. Now you just need to add in red meat and it would be the ideal veggo diet, lol.
Fasting, wow, thats not something i can see myself doing apart from during sleep.
It gives you an easy source of animal protein (fish) as well as superior source of omega 3 compared to plant based sources.
Why i love living on the coast... We eat as much fish as we can, and there's nothing better than slabbing a fillet and cooking it up on the boat 2 minutes after it was caught...
If i was to go vego, fish would be the one thing i couldn't go without.
Now you just need to add in red meat and it would be the ideal veggo diet, lol.
Why's that?
I do like seafood. My favourite from the Supermarket (Coles) are these John West Marinated Salmon Fillets. They're expensive but damn it they're tasty.
Then there is salt'n'pepper squid and stir fried banana prawns.
Ah Banana prawns... one of the best things about living up in Weipa is when the trawlers come in and u can pick up fresh caught prawns for 10 bucks a kilo. I'm still working my way through a 15 kg box from their last visit.
It's a crime i know, but we even use them as bait when fishing, because 10 bucks a kilo is cheaper than buying packaged bait prawns. Plus there's the bonus of being able to cook and eat your bait on the boat if you get hard up lol...
It takes a few minutes to find legitimate links. It's not that hard, especially when you are trying so hard to cut out additives. Educating yourself is great but don't rely on sites like the one you posted. No reference = not credible source.
I was about to call you a fucking retard but that doesn't help! Here have some useful inks:
There's nothing wrong with additives being derivatives of petroleum (like calling "fossil fuel" is worse). It's the equvalent of saying salt (NaCl) is derived from Chlorine, which is used in pools to keep it sterile. Or that Sodium is an explosive. HOW CAN YOU LET YOUR CHILDREN EAT NaCl WHEN IT'S A MIXTURE OF AN EXPLOSIVE AND A STERILIZING AGENT/POISON?!?!?
How old are you Dais? After a certain age I think it becomes irrelevant.
Red Meat rocks. Iron + B12 - two things that are difficult to get from dietary intake as a veggo/vegan. Apart from that you should be able to manage all other nutrients from veg options if you include fish.
FSANZ is great - especially for all the technical stuff when it comes to food standards in Aus. I remember a while ago looking into the legal requirements to be classified as a 'meal replacement' - was interesting stuff.
In the 1920s and 1930s, it became clear that the Food and Drugs Act of 1906 did not go far enough to protect the public health from misbranded, adulterated, and even toxic products, including an eyelash dye that blinded some women.
In the fall of 1950, many children became ill from eating an orange Halloween candy containing 1-2% FD&C Orange No. 1, a color additive approved for use in food. That same year, U.S. House Representative James Delaney began holding hearings on the possible carcinogenicity of pesticide residues and food additives. These events prompted FDA to reevaluate all of the listed color additives. In the next few years, FDA found that several caused serious adverse effects and proceeded to terminate their listings.
The 1960 Amendments also contained a "Delaney Clause" that prohibited the listing of a color additive shown to be a carcinogen. The clause states that "A color additive shall be deemed unsafe. . . if the additive is found. . . to induce cancer when ingested by man or animal, or . . . after other relevant exposure of man or animal to such additive."
After 1960, FDA gradually removed color additives from the provisional list either by permanent listing or by termination of listing. Today about half of the "1960" color additives remain listed; only color additive lakes remain provisionally listed and initiatives are underway to permanently list them.
Some color additives may contain impurities of toxicological concern, such as carcinogenic constituents.
Bear in mind that many of the additives approved for use in the USA are now illegal in places like Europe and Japan. The number of items considered safe is reducing more and more over time.
Only FaceMan could genuinely believe that vegetarianism was a left-wing political conspiracy.
ORLY
First Lady Michelle Obama served a healthy meal to kids today, attending the official “Kids’ State Dinner.” The event was held at the White House to promote the First Lady’s “Lets Move” anti-obesity initiative.
The menu: Kale Chips from the New York winner were placed on each table ahead of the appetizer, which was Quinoa Black Bean and Corn Salad from the Arizona winner. The entree was “Yummy Cabbage Sloppy Joes” from the Kansas winner, accompanied by Baked Zucchini Fries from the North Carolina winner. Dessert was two recipes: A Strawberryana Smoothie from the Hawaii winner; and a “Summer Fruit Garland” from the South Dakota winner, which was chunks of fruit on a wooden skewer
No Meat.
Yet she and her kids like Fast Food.
But of course this wasnt about her food it was about indoctrinating the children with Veganism, The Diet of Socialism.
AFAIK AUS companies dont say where their water comes from on the bottle. I think it should say tap water if thats their source so that people know. At least in USA i think they say where the water is sourced.
Bottled water should be banned its an environmental disgrace.
Dont think thats ever going to happen but i really think more people should make the effort to buy a reusable bottle and just fill it up from home. At work i see people walk by with the big ass slabs of supermarket plastic water bottles in their trolley which i assume they use during the week instead of a reusable one - that shits me. I have 4 reusable water bottles - 1L @ work, 2L @ home for gym and 2x 1L @ home for when we go out. Its not difficult. People bitch and moan about the costs of shit yet they happily waste money on bottled water and take away coffee like its a daily essential.
I know when I worked in the Lab Sales joint (was only there for 8 or so months) we sold a heap of propylene glycol to different places, food labs, and food manufacturing
but most of them required a heap of doco's to make sure it was safe, and I know of one place that ordered PEG, not PG and got really pissy (PEG = Polyethylene glycol)
This week Four Corners presents “The Autism Enigma”. Filmed in the United States, the United Kingdom and Canada the program looks at a controversial theory examining the possible links between food additives and harmful bacteria in a child’s gut and autism.
Yeah, food additives n shitty diets causing kiddy health issues (mainly behaviour related) are all the rage at the moment. Sugar, sweeteners, colours etc are being blamed for a fuckload of conditions - autism, ADHD and much more. Not something ive looked into.
That 4 Corners was interesting.
They think Autism may be triggered by bacteria levels in the stomach.
Anti-Biotics given to children and anti-biotics used in farming, Particular types of grains like Corn that alter the bacteria in our stomach.
I wonder if there is a link to Obesity.
theres a replay tomorrow night or you can see it on the 4 corners site/iView.
Regarding antibiotics, i work in a pharmacy and they are now doing a 'resistance fighters' thing encouraging people not to go to the GP's for antibiotics for viral problems (antibiotics wont work) as well as following the GP's advice when prescribed as incorrect use of antibiotics is rapidly building resistant strains of bugs. The world health organisation says its a matter of decades before antibiotics will be useless given what is currently happening. Its a scary thought to think that our children may not grow up with any effective antibiotics and pre-antibiotic era health complications will arise again.
Prime example of incorrect antibiotic use: Had a dude come in with an old prescription for antibiotics with a female's name on the script. The fact that it was an old script (6 months+) and it wasnt for him the pharmacist enquired what was going on. Turns out the family had diagnosed the dude's younger brother with a urinary tract infection, and had decided to dig up an old antibiotic script that was for the mother and use them for him. So not only was the medical condition not professionally diagnosed, the type of antibiotic was completely useless.
I've always whimsically wanted to work in a Pharmacy. How long have you worked there?
And why the hell does it take so long to get me my prescription. I give you the thingy, you go to the shelves and get the antibiotics and we exchange for cash. Why does it sometimes take 15 minutes?
Since grade 9or10 work experience. So approx 10yrs, as casual, then part time, then full time and now part time as i finish study. Worked front counter checkout dude, backcounter with drugs, weightloss in the Tony Ferguson clinic, vitamins side of things and now all of em as required. My only job apart from my early days as soccer ref.
And why the hell does it take so long to get me my prescription.
Goddam customer interruptions. Far too many people demand to see a pharmacist for stupid shit that other staff could answer. Its as if hearing the info from a pharmacist is more convincing because of their qualification. There are valid times when a pharmacists help is required but id say at least 75% of the time its stupid questions like 'whats the best cream for my arthritis' or 'what cold and flu meds should i buy'. Also, pharmacists cost big bucks to hire to often stores try to have the minimum possible number working at a time. Often 1 pharmacist on a saturday/sunday and 2, maybe 3 if ur lucky during the week. Plus, fucking oldies. They love to talk and talk and talk and it can be difficult for the pharmacist to escape without seeming rude.
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