I think there is a whole untapped market here, theres so many more hobbies and leisure activities we could add to the Olympics before gaming. How about competitive woodcarving? Team lego building? And I think it'd be a crime if the cup stacking time trial event didn't at least get a test run.
I think there is a whole untapped market here, theres so many more hobbies and leisure activities we could add to the Olympics before gaming. How about competitive woodcarving? Team lego building? And I think it'd be a crime if the cup stacking time trial event didn't at least get a test run.
When france hosted the olympics, they introduced the sport of dog grooming.
I support this, but only if the official IOC licensed olympics video game includes the sport of video gaming. I nominate the new WoW sequel World of World of Warcraft as the official video game played at the olympics.
The precise definition of what separates a sport from other leisure activities varies between sources, with no universally agreed definition. The closest to an international agreement on a definition is provided by SportAccord, which is the association for all the largest international sports federations (including association football, american football, cycling, equestrian sports, baseball and more), and is therefore the de facto representative of international sport. SportAccord uses the following criteria, determining that a sport should:
- have an element of competition - be in no way harmful to any living creature - not rely on equipment provided by a single supplier (excluding proprietary games such as arena football) - not rely on any 'luck' element specifically designed in to the sport
They also recognise that sport can be primarily physical (such as rugby or athletics), primarily mind (such as chess or go), predominantly motorised (such as Formula 1 or powerboating), primarily co-ordination (such as billiard sports) or primarily animal supported (such as equestrian sport).
There has been an increase in the application of the term 'sport' to a wider set of non-physical challenges such as electronic sports, especially due to the large scale of participation and organised competition, but these are not widely recognised by mainstream sports organisations.
Emphasis mine.
IMO there is nothing technically precluding video gaming being an Olympic sport, many games are competitively played world wide. Players have similar physicality requirements as sports like shooting and archery (and to a degree sports like ping pong) where dexterity and mental composure are often more important than strength or cardio. The Terran Emperor, for example, is in my mind as amazing as any Olympic athlete, if you haven't watched him in his prime you're missing out, some of his plays are completely bullshit.
Like chess though, the idea will never get legs and I wouldn't personally support it. eSports doesn't need validation from the Olympics and attempts like the OP petition only invite ridicule and pimply faced nerd stereotypes. Like chess its also a bit of a hit and miss spectator sport, unless you know the game its a head-scratcher, while anyone can appreciate the skill of mainstream sport.
eSports would do better developing exhibitions for gamers who can follow what is going on.
Thing is "video games" wouldn't really be the sport, you'd have to then have a separate event for every particular game. And I couldn't see it being a mainstream game like Starcraft 2 or something because then you're essentially giving a money-making corporate entity the keys to the 'sport'. It would have to be some kind of game built specifically for the sport, not made for profit, governed by a ruling body, etc. And by that point all the people who were like "OMG COD SHOULD BE IN THE OLYMPICS" wont want to watch it anymore.
I'd be more interested in seeing some kind of gaming decathalon that tests gamers accross a huge range of games, from Quake to Mario Kart to Virtua Cop to Streetfighter, maybe even oldschool skill testter type claw games, or pinball machines or something. Some kind of competition that tests how versatile they are as gamers and now just how well they know the hotkeys in Starcraft 2 or the maps in BF3.
But it still shouldn't be in the olympics, I just think it'd make for a much more entertaining competition in general and I'd watch something like that.
Well, that rules out running, cycling, weightlifting, boxing, basketball, archery, shooting, hurdles... shall I keep going?
You must have missed the bit that says:
The precise definition of what separates a sport from other leisure activities varies between sources, with no universally agreed definition.
The idea is that its hard to define sporting activity. I included that paragraph so that jokers like you and copuis wouldn't have a meltdown, but this is QGL so it was of course a wasted effort.
Go forth and disagree with vim and vigour, you glorious cockgobbler.
But it still shouldn't be in the olympics, I just think it'd make for a much more entertaining competition in general and I'd watch something like that.
I agree, there are lots of issues with Olympic video gaming which is why it shouldn't be an Olympic sport. The biggest one IMO is that the games are owned by corporations. Requiring a license from a private company -- that literally owns the sport -- just to compete invalidates the idea entirely. In my mind there is an intangible need for Olympic sports to be open and accessible.
I was responding to the caterwauling of people declaring that video gaming isn't a sport when sports with similar physical and mental skill requirements pass muster.
This reminds me I was actually thinking about the Olympics the other day and was wondering why they don't have cricket or rugby/league? I could look it up but Im capped so it would take ages :(. Aussies would destroy some faces if Rugby League was an Olympic sport.
the "no harm to living creature" line is a bit of a wank, there are heaps of sports that can thru the act of competing can injury animal that are used (like eventing, or polo etc) however I think the line was poorly written (not your fault) and I was stirring shit (even included the line that I didn't have a better definition)
other than the harm to creatures line being re-written, it should include a line like "If it can be played competitively from a bean bag then it can not be considered as a sport"
In my mind there is an intangible need for Olympic sports to be open and accessible.
You're joking, right?
*tries to watch video on youtube, can't because it's blocked for broadcasting rights...*
The Olympics is nothing more than a fucking cash-grab for the sponsors and a time where overly patriotic fucks can dick wave at other people instead of living on in their miserable lives like normal.
And as for definition of sport, I think it's fairly easy to define: Anything that has competition between two parties that has some sort of rule set for how the competition is conducted.
Anything that has competition between two parties that has some sort of rule set for how the competition is conducted.
Playing Monopoly is not a sport!
Personally I think the definition of a sport has become way too general as a result of a whole bunch of people hoping to get their pastime classified as a sport as some sort of vain attempt to make it more popular or be taken more seriously.
Chess is not a sport. Motorsport is not a real sport, that's why they always call it 'motorsport', because it's a sport, but with motors, ie. a regular sport itself should not include the use of motors.
And that is also why competitive gaming is called e-sports, because it's like a sport, but electronic, ie. not a real sport.
Playing Monopoly is not a sport!Personally I think the definition of a sport has become way too general as a result of a whole bunch of people hoping to get their pastime classified as a sport as some sort of vain attempt to make it more popular or be taken more seriously.Chess is not a sport. Motorsport is not a real sport, that's why they always call it 'motorsport', because it's a sport, but with motors, ie. a regular sport itself should not include the use of motors.And that is also why competitive gaming is called e-sports, because it's like a sport, but electronic, ie. not a real sport.
And as for definition of sport, I think it's fairly easy to define: Anything that has competition between two parties that has some sort of rule set for how the competition is conducted.
Rock, Paper, Scissors?
You're joking, right?
Hes talking about the sport itself being open, ie, not owned by and at the whims of a big money making corporation (for example) Activision Blizzard, as it would be were Starcraft 2 an Olympic "sport".
Also, I'm not much of a follower of sports, but unless you're all bitter and cynical, theres something pretty inspiring about the olympics. And I just can't really imagine someone playing Counter-strike or Starcraft to have that same inspiring quality as someone who's worked hard and won gold in running/swimming/cycling/etc.
Fuck yeah, I had that Olympic Gold game on the mega drive, I was king at those "mash two buttons alternately as fast as possible" type games, I developed a winning technique. Had the Sydney 2000 one on Dreamcast as well and it prompted an epic showdown one night between me and Rockape, he ended up having to wrap a tea-towel around his fingers because he as getting friction burns from going so fast on the buttons.
Hrmm, I kind of want to get the London 2012 olympics game now
Whaaa? How is table tennis, the sport that's remarkably similar to the many other racquet sports played in the Olympics, the one sport of all the weird shit in the Olympics that you are shocked about?
I mean seriously, what about, oh I don't know... every single Equestrian event? Not to mention Synchronised Swimming and Trampoline!
Players have similar physicality requirements as sports like shooting and archery and (and to a degree sports like ping pong) where dexterity and mental composure are often more important
+1 this
I dont really have any interest in video games being at the olympics (anyone with Foxtel will have seen there's already way too many stupid events), but I agree on the basis of what is already at the olympics I see no reason some sort of computer-based activity could not be included.
but unless you're all bitter and cynical, theres something pretty inspiring about the olympics.
Guilty as charged.
I don't think it would be possible for me to care any less about sport, let alone competitive dick-waving between countries to sell the rights to sponsors and let the masses forget about how they're losing their rights by waving "ooh shiny opening ceremony patriotism HOOOOOOOOO" in front of their doped up baby-squirting breeder-mentality having faces.
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