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Movie - Schindler's List
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9523 posts
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108052/

I watched this for the first time, with my Mum the other day. It has a very high rating (8.9) on IMDb and with good reason. It is based on the true story of Oskar Schindler, a Nazi businessman who saved Jews during WWII.
One of the greatest things about the DVD we watched is that it features interviews with the real Jews who were saved by him. The things they talk about the Nazis doing to them are much worse than what was depicted in the movie. But the film is still so brutal, we had to pause it frequently because Mum was having trouble dealing with it. The fact that it is based on real events is what makes it so traumatic.

Because it is based on such an important period (and relatively recent) of history and done oh so well, everyone should see this movie. The acting is fantastic and it is directed by Steven Spielberg. If you haven't seen it I urge you to rent or buy it immediately. Just don't view it if you are already in a bad mood.



03:16pm 07/07/12 Permalink
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Superform
Netherlands
7454 posts
umm dude.. this movie is 20 years old.. the majority of people would have watched this...
03:28pm 07/07/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9524 posts
That doesn't mean everyone has seen it. I'm really in to movies and it was my first time.

Not many people tend to go for B&W war films.
03:30pm 07/07/12 Permalink
crazymorton
Brisbane, Queensland
3178 posts
yep good movie. well worth another watch imo

good call dais

if you liked this get The Boy in the Striped Pajamas http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0914798/

last edited by crazymorton at 15:37:07 07/Jul/12
03:34pm 07/07/12 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
1117 posts
...I'm really in to movies and it was my first time.

Not many people tend to go for B&W war films.


Really Dais?

Surely you troll...

Creepier still is that I was thinking about this movie just yesterday...
I was standing in a 'Schindler Lift' and couldn't help but wonder if there is a connection...
03:35pm 07/07/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
9065 posts
Wars/genocides in Europe early last century were exagerated by victims and covered up by the aggressors. Genocides were Europes specialty and they were all guilty of commiting them.
Hollywoods reimagining of WW2 should not be taken as historical fact.
Hollywoods version of WW2 is heavily influenced by Jews.

Millions of Germans were starved to death at the end of WW2 after being subjected to horrific bombing attacks on their civillians.
Check out Churchills own genocide of Indians.
http://www.countercurrents.org/polya230109.htm
Armenians
The Ukraine Famine.
Why doesnt Hollywood make movies about that ?

Europe needed Hitler and the Nazis to protect them from the Communists.
What happened after WW2 is what would have happened to all of Europe without Hitler. All of Europe was responsible for The Nazis.

03:39pm 07/07/12 Permalink
Crakaveli
USA
6143 posts
fuck up faceman you spastic cunt
05:07pm 07/07/12 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
20200 posts
I haven't seen it, nor do I plan to. Don't much care for war movies. My dad was always watching war stuff, people killing each other, wildlife documentaries with animals eating each other, violent shit everywhere. Why the hell would you want to constantly watch shit like that unless you're one sick motherfucker? (him, not you)
05:10pm 07/07/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9534 posts
Probably because it is based on reality and a fact of life. My Mum prefers watching real stuff as well.
05:12pm 07/07/12 Permalink
Tiny
Brisbane, Queensland
3287 posts
It looks really good. Will watch.
05:20pm 07/07/12 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
20201 posts
Probably because it is based on reality and a fact of life. My Mum prefers watching real stuff as well.

Not all real stuff, just war shit. Documentaries on war, "true" movies about wars, war, war, war. Couldn't get enough watching people killing each other.
05:22pm 07/07/12 Permalink
Some Fat Bastard
Brisbane, Queensland
1150 posts
Faceman again proves how much of a total fuckhead fruitcake he is. Good work Faceman you've left no one in doubt now.

If Faceman had been in WW2 I'm sure he would have volunteered to be a proud Nazi Concentration Camp guard or one of the Jews ratting on everyone else, cause you know, they were all conspiring against him and also cause he's a total knob.

BOT - Dais, good to see you watched the movie. I remember seeing it when it first came out. I was very moved.
06:39pm 07/07/12 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
9713 posts
That doesn't mean everyone has seen it. I'm really in to movies and it was my first time.

Not many people tend to go for B&W war films.

No you are not really into movies because if you were and over the age of 12 you'd have seen this a while ago.
07:00pm 07/07/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9536 posts
I said I am, so I am.
07:12pm 07/07/12 Permalink
DeadlyDav0
Brisbane, Queensland
2394 posts
Havent seen this either but i doubt i will as im not a big fan of dramas.

Gotta ask though, you saw it with your mum. How old are you?
07:34pm 07/07/12 Permalink
no you hang up
Brisbane, Queensland
2129 posts
Not all real stuff, just war shit. Documentaries on war, "true" movies about wars, war, war, war. Couldn't get enough watching people killing each other.


because nothing exposes the human condition and the fraility of man like a good war fillum.
a classic example is the brilliant deer hunter.
07:37pm 07/07/12 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
9856 posts
Whole reason Spielberg got into filmmaking is because he wanted to make this movie.
08:13pm 07/07/12 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
6003 posts
Jebus face you have really crossed the line into kooky town
08:21pm 07/07/12 Permalink
carson
Gippsland, Victoria
1576 posts
because nothing exposes the human condition and the fraility of man like a good war fillum. a classic example is the brilliant deer hunter.

Deer Hunter was brutal and depressing.

I haven't seen Schindler's List. I want to, one day; I think it'd make me super depressed though.

Also, ITT Faceman goes beyond full retard.
08:28pm 07/07/12 Permalink
WetWired
Brisbane, Queensland
6036 posts
I saw it at the cinemas for my history class in grade 9 I think it was.
08:51pm 07/07/12 Permalink
Reverend Evil™
Wynnum, Queensland
20666 posts
It's such an awesome movie. The only crappy thing about the DVD copy is you have to switch disc's half way thru. Well, with my copy anyway. A bluray version would kick some serious ass.
09:01pm 07/07/12 Permalink
Crusher
Sydney, New South Wales
1160 posts
There is an elevator company called Schindler. Whenever I get into one, I get worried I am in Schindler's Lift and there will be gas.
09:22pm 07/07/12 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
9857 posts
ok everyones been in a schindler's lift and we've all made the connection we're all funny guys, 20 years ffs
09:25pm 07/07/12 Permalink
Crusher
Sydney, New South Wales
1161 posts
BUT WILL THERE BE GAS??!?!!?!?
09:27pm 07/07/12 Permalink
Crusher
Sydney, New South Wales
1162 posts
PS I am sure Hollywood will find some way to remake or reboot Shindlers List. In 3D.

Shindlers List 2 - Gitmo
09:27pm 07/07/12 Permalink
no you hang up
Brisbane, Queensland
2130 posts
gitmo?
i googled it, but couldnt find anything. gee isnt this most obvious? ironic if it is that.
11:28pm 07/07/12 Permalink
deve
Brisbane, Queensland
56 posts
Why are some of you being cunts to dais for not seeing this movie?

We can't all be elitist seen that/experienced that/own that faggots so give the guy a break.

movie is awesome.
11:47pm 07/07/12 Permalink
qmass
Queensland
10428 posts
I haven't seen it, nor do I plan to. Don't much care for war movies. My dad was always watching war stuff, people killing each other, wildlife documentaries with animals eating each other, violent shit everywhere. Why the hell would you want to constantly watch shit like that unless you're one sick motherfucker? (him, not you)
It's not really a war movie, despite being set during the war and in a prison camp.

It's about Oscar Schindler more than anything.
02:41am 08/07/12 Permalink
maRtz
Brisbane, Queensland
3709 posts
it's got Liam fucking Neeson in it!! how could you not wanna watch this!?!?
03:41am 08/07/12 Permalink
mental patients
Queensland
1 posts
scinler sihts

foken cmapers
05:27am 08/07/12 Permalink
mental patients
Queensland
2 posts

fok yuo htiler !
05:28am 08/07/12 Permalink
Crusher
Sydney, New South Wales
1163 posts
gitmo? i googled it, but couldnt find anything. gee isnt this most obvious? ironic if it is that.
You must suck at the googles
08:40am 08/07/12 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
2000 posts
12:44pm 08/07/12 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
21033 posts
Schindler's List is an awesome fucking movie. I saw it when it originally came out on VHS (lolz VHS) and it was one of the first movies that showed me that films can have a deep emotional impact on people. The first was Forrest Gump but Schindler's List had a much harder edge to it for obvious reasons.

I don't watch movies like this to enjoy the people being shot in the head by the SS. The reason that sort of thing is added is to assist in caring about the characters in the movie. I love the way the film sort of follows a small bunch of them throughout the movie. The summary executions of various people throughout the movie make you fear for the familiar character's lives. The first time I saw it I was constantly fearful that the main characters could die at any time.

It was also disturbing how you slowly saw character's dignity stripped away as the movie progressed. In the opening scene where all the jews are in a line having to register with the German occupation, you see a rabbi with a full beard and proud, defiant face giving his name. This is the same man you see cowering under Amon after the hinge seen, a double pistol failure saving his life.

The main theme of the movie is the power of humanity though I reckon. Oskar Schindler bribes some senior German officials with basic items such as chocolate and citrus fruits in order to secure a work contract that blatantly uses the jews as slave labour. It seems in war that basic luxury items become very valuable, and the only thing that becomes cheap is human life. The psychopathic actions of Amon cause Schindler to see something dark about himself and the situation he is in causing him to take great steps to rectify it. I think the pivotal scene for Schindler's reckoning is when he hoses down the cars. You can even see it in the Germans' faces as they realise what is happening.

An absolute classic movie that should be shown to every high schooler. Spielberg's finest three hours.

PS - dais go and watch There Will Be Blood now.
02:56pm 08/07/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
9075 posts
Perhaps they could teach what really happened rather than a fantasy.


Schindler did not become a list-maker, an apparent ally of Jews, until after the battle of Stalingrad, the turning point of World War II, when every thinking German knew defeat was at hand. Schindler did not begin to act in earnest until matters were even more desperate for the Nazis, mid-1944, after Nazi Field-Marshall Rommel had committed suicide. At war's end, Schindler, disguised as a concentration camp victim and accompanied by friends, fled west--as did many war criminals--fearing arrest by the Soviets. He continued his dissolute womanizing alcoholic life, made yearly trips to Israel to collect accolades and demand money, and died in 1974. At least some of "his" Jews felt the loss of another Nazi was no loss at all.

Most teachers and US citizens do not know the film was banned in much of the Middle East and repeatedly attacked in Israel, or that the maker of the profound film, "Shoah," denounced both Spielberg and his movie. "Shoah's," Claude Lanzmann believes Spielberg deliberately misportrays the Shoah, the repetition of which Lanzmann feels is a just question of time. Shoah experts who left Spielberg's fold during filming indicate that Spielberg was obsessed with creating a relatively happy ending, and when they resisted his view, they were removed



http://richgibson.com/SchindlerListCrit2001.htm

03:19pm 08/07/12 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
21035 posts


ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. So good.
03:24pm 08/07/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9548 posts
If that is true FaceMan, then why were there so many survivors confirming Spielberg's take on things in the interviews?

Oh they must have been paid off by Hollywood.

There Will Be Blood is on my list fuckpot.
03:32pm 08/07/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
9076 posts
As the story said some saw him as hero others saw him as just another Nazi who found a way to escape the Commies as the War drew to a close.

Why does fpot need to keep telling me he isnt reading my posts ?
im beginning to think he still does.

last edited by FaceMan at 15:41:03 08/Jul/12
03:39pm 08/07/12 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
21038 posts
Make sure you see it in HD dais.
03:51pm 08/07/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9549 posts
The fact is he spent all his money on saving these people, when he could have spent it on ensuring his escape. He could have fled much earlier with his fortune if he didn't care about the Jews.

Noone is denying that he went there to exploit them. But as has been suggested his attitude toward them changed as he became aware of what was happening.

last edited by dais at 15:56:31 08/Jul/12
03:53pm 08/07/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
9078 posts
But he couldnt leave because he was a Nazi.
He fled disguised as a concentration camp victim.






04:08pm 08/07/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9550 posts
Like I said, he could have used his wealth. I'm sure he could have bribed his way out of the country.
04:10pm 08/07/12 Permalink
no you hang up
Brisbane, Queensland
2132 posts
gitmo? i googled it, but couldnt find anything. gee isnt this most obvious? ironic if it is that.

You must suck at the googles


Oh its military slang. I was looking for an acronym. Seems to be more pages on why it shouldnt be short for Guantanamo Bay than there is saying it's short for said bay.
04:43pm 08/07/12 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
21039 posts
There is no doubt that Spielberg would have cast Schindler in a far more sympathetic light than what he would have been in real life though for storytelling reasons.

If you watched this movie and thought that it would have been 100% what happened in real life you'd be bit silly.

edit: knowing Faceman is a holocaust denier this



is so fucking sweet. I've said it before, but skipping past his posts is like sidestepping a dump truck full of dumb. Do try it.
06:09pm 08/07/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
9082 posts
If you watched this movie and thought that it would have been 100% what happened in real life you'd be bit silly.


Yet you think it should be shown in schools why ?
Kids should be taught skills not propaganda.

The real lesson of Nazi Germany is never let the Government take away your Gun.



06:21pm 08/07/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9552 posts
He can't see your posts FaceMan.
06:48pm 08/07/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
9083 posts
Holocaust Denier is just as rediculous as Climate Change Denier.



06:59pm 08/07/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9553 posts
Spot on FaceMan.
07:09pm 08/07/12 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
6007 posts
stop jerking off to mein kampf face
07:17pm 08/07/12 Permalink
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