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sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
5963 posts
Interesting Stuff.

http://www.gizmag.com/future-transport/22959/

The Tubular Rail system blows my mind.
http://www.tubularrail.com/
08:10am 19/06/12 Permalink
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08:10am 19/06/12 Permalink
Sc00bs
Brisbane, Queensland
8861 posts
the sharing the roads one is pretty gay idea with the train over the top of the cars :/
08:42am 19/06/12 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
810 posts
Here's what sydney transport will look like in 50 years time.

link
08:51am 19/06/12 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
7071 posts
The problem with the ETT is that at 6,500kph, you'd want to keep acceleration and deceleration to <1g. >1g for a long period of time for most people is going to make them feel horrible.
So it's going to take at the very minimum 3 minutes (and then some) to either accelerate or decelerate to that speed.

Tubular rail is cheap to build, but stupidly expensive to maintain and comes with high risk.
Imagine disengaging and reengaging a set of wheels every 30 meters and having that engagement to be so precise as to provide enough friction to further push the train, but not enough that you get a heavy thump at every one.
The wear caused by that engagement is significant, and over time, one or the other component will fail, or send it off-course to the next one. And while the first one may only be off by 5mm, the next one might be off by 10cm as a result of that. And a 10cm impact of a train at 240km/h isn't going to be a small bump.
09:24am 19/06/12 Permalink
DeadlyDav0
Brisbane, Queensland
2317 posts
the sharing the roads one is pretty gay idea with the train over the top of the cars :/

I thought it was cool until i wondered how they would manage turning left/right without affecting traffic below.

And lol @ the self powered little glass cylinder bikes.
09:31am 19/06/12 Permalink
kos
Germany
2057 posts
Tubular rail is cheap to build, but stupidly expensive to maintain and comes with high risk.
Imagine disengaging and reengaging a set of wheels every 30 meters and having that engagement to be so precise as to provide enough friction to further push the train, but not enough that you get a heavy thump at every one.
The wear caused by that engagement is significant, and over time, one or the other component will fail, or send it off-course to the next one. And while the first one may only be off by 5mm, the next one might be off by 10cm as a result of that. And a 10cm impact of a train at 240km/h isn't going to be a small bump.

Way to talk about a concept like it's a mature and commonly understood technology.

It seems like the rings are going to have to be precise enough that the train rides smoothly or not at all. From the look of it, the train itself is a completely rigid structure with a length spanning 3 or 4 of the rings, it's not going to be able to ever get 5 or 10cm off course.

Just like with today's rail the rings would obviously need to be regularly maintained. I'm sure there are very cost effective sensors out there that you could install into each tower to detect movement or misalignment. Hell, depending how much you want to spend on fail safes, you could even have lasers shone along the tracks to ensure perfectly straight wheels through minor on-the-fly mechanical adjustments.
09:48am 19/06/12 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
9771 posts
I likve the "Ditching the driver" idea. Basically anything where I'm in my car, but can have a nap is a winner for me.
09:52am 19/06/12 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
7073 posts
I likve the "Ditching the driver" idea. Basically anything where I'm in my car, but can have a nap is a winner for me.

Damn straight. If I can wake up and *be* at work - not have to commute to work - that's a massive win. That's 90 minutes of very valuable time out of my day.

That is, without living at Foxconn.
09:58am 19/06/12 Permalink
DeadlyDav0
Brisbane, Queensland
2319 posts
Yeah, driverless FTW. Minority report style. I would have no issue with peak hour traffic if i could sleep/game/whatever to and from work/uni.
10:28am 19/06/12 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
13333 posts
As an engineer most of those look pretty ridiculous.

Driverless probably has the most potential and significant amount of current research weight behind it.
11:43am 19/06/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
8968 posts
The Kedron bus tunnel is now working.
hundreds of millions of dollars to create a two lane choke point in bound on Gympie Rd at Kedron and the dogs breakfast as cars try to merge in to those two lanes whilst two lanes into the tunnel will be mostly empty.

I have seen the future.
Toll Roads and privitisation of the road network.
It certainly wont be Public Transport.
11:50am 19/06/12 Permalink
paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
16885 posts
to create a two lane choke point in bound on Gympie Rd at Kedron


got to say i am pretty disappointed with that outcome, i used to drive gympie every day and it was fine through there when it was 3 lanes.

i now drive down webster and come out onto gympie at that stafford road intersection missing the 2 lane bit.

it was far worse when the 2 lanes extended all the way back to service station during construction it used to back up back down to the cemetery or back to toyota, but it is still fucked that it goes to 2 lanes and i won't be going in bound there now. even when i want to use the tunnel i can still get on from stafford road at that intersection.
12:37pm 19/06/12 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
18838 posts
The future of transport is Johnny Cab.
02:23pm 19/06/12 Permalink
Jerry
Queensland
4183 posts
06:17pm 20/06/12 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
20103 posts
I likve the "Ditching the driver" idea. Basically anything where I'm in my car, but can have a nap is a winner for me.

I eagerly await those audi's from iRobot. The ability to have my car going 200km/h everywhere legally gets me wet.
12:45am 21/06/12 Permalink
Clubby
Brisbane, Queensland
865 posts
You're in a Johnny Cab!!

link
10:03am 21/06/12 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
2666 posts
Damn straight. If I can wake up and *be* at work - not have to commute to work - that's a massive win. That's 90 minutes of very valuable time out of my day.
It wouldn't take that long if the whole system was automated. Most traffic stems for peoples inability to merge efficiently, automated cars that are communicating to each other will be able to merge like champs, plus we could do away with traffic lights.

The only problem with self-driving cars is to reach their true potential you'd require all cars on the road to be automated. Then again, not everyone would need to own a car, you'd just ring up and book one out like a cab.
10:43am 21/06/12 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
13356 posts
I went to an Engineers Australia breakfast this morning on the topic of 'smart cities'.

It was quite interesting. It was a very general discussion but a lot of points were raised about sustainability in particular and what it is that makes a city 'smart'. One of the clear conclusions was that there is something social that is very necessary - everyone has to be on the same page, basically.

One of the panelists was the director of the company behind Future Melbourne which is an editable wiki (might be closed now) which attempts to crowd source urban planning for the city of Melbourne in the future.

The question our table raised after discussion was, "What single change will the city of Melbourne make to be recognised globally as a smart city?"

Unfortunately they skipped over ours because there wasn't enough time :(
12:36pm 21/06/12 Permalink
paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
16897 posts
i am glad i won't be around to see the day that all car transport is driverless

sounds fucking horrible
12:37pm 21/06/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4987 posts
what it is that makes a city 'smart'

It's the choice of vehicle license plate tag-lines.
12:40pm 21/06/12 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
13357 posts
It's the choice of vehicle license plate tag-lines.

12:46pm 21/06/12 Permalink
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