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Prince Charles warns the world about climate change
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9368 posts
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18479724
The Prince of Wales has warned of the "catastrophic" consequences of inaction on issues such as climate change, at a UN sustainability conference in Brazil.

Prince Charles said he had "watched in despair" at the slow pace of progress on the "critical issues of the day," in a pre-recorded video address in Rio.

He urged world leaders to adopt a more integrated approach to issues such as climate change and food security.

Waiting for the worst to happen would be "too late to act at all", he said.
01:36pm 18/06/12 Permalink
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01:36pm 18/06/12 Permalink
Reverend Evil™
Wynnum, Queensland
20559 posts
Well there you have it. We better do something guys.
01:38pm 18/06/12 Permalink
hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
10251 posts

Haha rev, you got a good chuckle out of me
01:43pm 18/06/12 Permalink
AndrewB
37 posts
I have a solution guys.

01:47pm 18/06/12 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
2924 posts
that looks so mr bean like, it made me lol

all it needs is his teddy shopped in
01:52pm 18/06/12 Permalink
Jim
UK
12933 posts
prince charles was recently appointed field marshal, admiral of the fleet and marshal of the royal air force by his mum the queen - better listen up
02:15pm 18/06/12 Permalink
natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
7825 posts
Wonder why he didn't turn up in person this time?
02:24pm 18/06/12 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
6874 posts
heh. i say ol' chaps i watched this jolly video on those damnable carbons causing the climates & wotnot & i was all like "sink me! if those blasted proletarians shouldn't jolly well clean that mess up post haste!" then i shook my head in despair, took a private jet to scotland for crumpets & jam with miggens.
02:27pm 18/06/12 Permalink
mental
Brisbane, Queensland
3264 posts
I believe he prefers marmalade with his crumpets.
02:29pm 18/06/12 Permalink
Zakson
Gold Coast, Queensland
203 posts
& i was all like

So that's your impression of a Posh British Man with a dash of Dude?
02:43pm 18/06/12 Permalink
RUSTA
Brisbane, Queensland
291 posts
heh. i say ol' chaps i watched this jolly video on those damnable carbons causing the climates & wotnot & i was all like "sink me! if those blasted proletarians shouldn't jolly well clean that mess up post haste!" then i shook my head in despair, took a private jet to scotland for crumpets & jam with miggens.


reminds me of



last edited by RUSTA at 14:50:09 18/Jun/12
02:48pm 18/06/12 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
18824 posts
Did he get all of his info from An Inconvenient Truth?
02:51pm 18/06/12 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
20902 posts
No probably from the vast amount of information climate scientists have researched.

Don't tell me you are a climate-change denier as well infi?
03:00pm 18/06/12 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
18825 posts
I don't believe any of that alarmist non-sense. I do believe in being efficient with resources like any astute capitalist would, but I don't believe

a) the ocean is going to swallow up our planet, or

b) that taxing our pissant economy will solve climate change while china consumes 50% of the world's resources.
03:02pm 18/06/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9369 posts
It's all well and good to deny climate change but you can't deny the effect that pollution has had on our ozone layer. That is enough evidence to do more about limiting pollution.

If the government's income from the carbon tax is put to use as they have claimed it will be, for example in the development of renewable resource technology, then I think it will be worth it.
03:27pm 18/06/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
8958 posts
Just imagine the Co2 footprint of that gathering of Left Wing taxpayer funded bludgers and wtf is gillard going there for ?
To announce that shes offering up the Australian economy for slaughter.

We used to throw virgins into Volcanoes to appease superstitions
Now we sacrifice economies.
03:31pm 18/06/12 Permalink
HurricaneJim
Brisbane, Queensland
1177 posts
Just imagine the Co2 footprint of that gathering of Left Wing taxpayer funded bludgers and wtf is gillard going there for ?
To announce that shes offering up the Australian economy for slaughter.

We used to throw virgins into Volcanoes to appease superstitions
Now we sacrifice economies.



Thats for Toni Maggot to deny.

04:32pm 18/06/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1571 posts
I got lost on the whole global warming thing, too much contradictory information.

What's the latest? So climate change is real, but global warming is not?

@infi Why do you find it hard to believe the oceans could rise? Look at the proportion of ocean to land mass and the real stats on ocean levels rising. I remember reading about some islands going under, a quick google shows this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8584665.stm

But I haven't verified any of it. #lazydebating
07:46pm 18/06/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
8961 posts
heres whats really going on in Rio, from their own mouths:

07:48pm 18/06/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
6080 posts
I got lost on the whole global warming thing, too much contradictory information.

The debate and contradictory information are an illusion created by extremely loud pseudoscience conspiracy nutters like faceman and lord monckton. Treat it as you would evolution or lung cancer, ignore the religious and the cigarette CEOs. Real scientists are pretty much all in unison, as much as they are on anything else, and they're the only people in the world with a track record of being right about the natural world. Listening to faceman and his type's opinions is like going to hippy homeopaths instead of the combined opinion of every trained and experienced brain surgeon, on how to detect a brain disease.

Now watch as some "totally unbiased" people rant about me having already said all this on this forum, yet don't bring that up about any of the bullshit from faceman etc above. :P
08:12pm 18/06/12 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
18835 posts
And because the science is so persuasive that none of the major emitters are taxing their citizen but we are going out on our own little lonesone and signing up for all of our taxpayers to hand over their money for more bureaucrats and Commissions for Climate change so we can make the world a safer place.

.... literally wtf
08:29pm 18/06/12 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
20914 posts
The science is persuasive. The reason no-one is doing anything about it is because of bullshit nay-sayers creating false doubt, and because people will lose too much money if changes are made.
08:41pm 18/06/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
8963 posts
Documents released to the Australian Taxpayers’ Alliance under Freedom of Information laws revealed that bureaucrats in the Department of Climate change flew 6,528,616km last financial year, costing us a staggering $3,274,286.40!

So where were they flying to?

None other than the holiday resorts of Cancun, Vanuatu, Maiami, Fiji, The Maldives, Grenada, Maimi, Barcelona… Must be tough having to travel to places like the Caribbean & South Pacific all the time!


http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=d9f51dd317ac24a90c904906c&id=fe9a5fd1c6&e=bb57c1a0d9

Its really about the Science !





08:43pm 18/06/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
6081 posts
but we are going out on our own little lonesone

Oh?

http://ec.europa.eu/climateaction/eu_action/index_en.htm

http://www.climatechange.gov.au/government/international/~/media/publications/international/countries-acting-now.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_policy_of_the_United_States

http://www.cleanenergyfuture.gov.au/chinas-action-on-climate-change/

Even if that was true, do you want a country with one of the highest emissions per capita in the world to wait for the poor countries to lead the charge? "You guys aren't doing even more, despite most of your emissions coming from our factories in your countries."
08:55pm 18/06/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
8964 posts
$7t carbon tax in Europe
$23t here in Australia.
why ??

Every year it will jack up more and more as compensation falls away.

3 of our states will be amongst the top 7 power prices in the world come July 1.
Countries using our Coal have some of the lowest prices.

That is so fu#$ed up its indefensible.

ELECTION NOW
09:34pm 18/06/12 Permalink
HERMITech
Brisbane, Queensland
7899 posts
Prince Charles has given an address like that many many years ago (bout 25 years if I remember correctly). He's always been a closet hippie. Then again, he would have been brought up with the old histories about how the King is tied to the Land etc so its no stretch of the imagination to see him portray himself thus.
09:51pm 18/06/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19357 posts
I dunno about all this climate change stuff, but I do know you can pretty much guarantee that when Faceman says "heres whats really going on", then the opposite is actually true.
10:00pm 18/06/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
6084 posts
I dunno about all this climate change stuff, but I do know you can pretty much guarantee that when Faceman says "heres whats really going on", then the opposite is actually true.

Yeah that's what caused me to actually start caring about climate change.
10:04pm 18/06/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
8966 posts
based on 2011 prices, add 10% for last year + carbon tax increase

link
12:16am 19/06/12 Permalink
Jim
UK
12936 posts
it's ok for people to fly all around the place in jets cos they pay for trees to be planted in the upper atmosphere to offset their plane's co2 where it does it's worst
12:19am 19/06/12 Permalink
mooby
Brisbane, Queensland
6136 posts
get solar and stop being a wanker winging about power prices.
06:50am 19/06/12 Permalink
taggs
6008 posts
yeah except the only reason solar is economical is due to feed in subsidies that everyone else pays for, effectively pushing up the price of power for everyone as it's an inefficient form of generation.

but yeah, if you don't have solar at everyone else's expense you're a total wanker, right?

solar = feel-good middle class welfare.
08:09am 19/06/12 Permalink
Ozzy
178 posts
Lets all make Green Jobs like America. Then everything will be okay!!!!

Check out this definition of Green Jobs.

10:10am 19/06/12 Permalink
loutl
Brisbane, Queensland
256 posts
AGW is dead for now. The (so called) first world can't afford to send tons of cash to the (so called) third world at the moment, which is all that the scare was ever about.

Expect it (or some close variant) to resurface the next time the (so called) first world is doing well.
02:17pm 19/06/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
8994 posts
03:17pm 25/06/12 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
18866 posts
All I know is that my bulk power price is going up from 8c to 10c (25%) from 1 July so fuck you Carbon Tax!
07:36pm 25/06/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
8996 posts
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/taxpayers-to-spend-21m-to-move-mps-offices/story-e6frfku0-1226408154900

Taxpayers will likely spend $21 million to move federal parliamentary offices from Phillip Street to nearby Bligh Street in Sydney.

The parliamentary committee on public works tabled a recommendation today to move the Sydney offices for the prime minister, cabinet, ministers and visiting senators and members, from 70 Phillip Street to a new six-star, green star building in Sydney at 1 Bligh Street - just one street away.



They care about the Co2 emissions from their current building ?
jesus christ this is just bullshit.
08:33pm 25/06/12 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
9685 posts
yeah except the only reason solar is economical is due to feed in subsidies that everyone else pays for

Are you saying that normal coal electricity isn't subsidized in Australia ?
Not just the cost of product, but infrastructure as well.
09:49pm 25/06/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
8999 posts
Fossil Fuels subsidies ?


The biggest item is “Fuel tax rebates” ($4.99b). That’s a deduction that any business which uses a vehicle is able to claim for the cost of using that vehicle - just like any other ordinary deductible item. How that constitutes a “subsidy” is beyond me.

The second biggest item is “Lack of indexation on fuel excise” ($3.235b). John Howard stopped indexing the fuel excise after the GST was introduced. Basically, what the ACF is re saying is that because an additional tax isn’t levied on a particular class of business or fuel consumer, that’s a subsidy to the fossil fuel industry!

The third biggest item is “FBT company car concession” ($1.11b). It’s not a concession at all - it’s one method of determining how FBT is levied on a company car so that an employer is taxed for a non-cash benefit provided to an employee.




http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/beware_the_australian_con_foundation/

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