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Our universe may be inside a black hole...
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9227 posts
...and all black holes may contain a universe of their very own.

http://www.insidescience.org/?q=content/every-black-hole-contains-new-universe/566

Our universe may exist inside a black hole. This may sound strange, but it could actually be the best explanation of how the universe began, and what we observe today. It's a theory that has been explored over the past few decades by a small group of physicists including myself.

Successful as it is, there are notable unsolved questions with the standard big bang theory, which suggests that the universe began as a seemingly impossible "singularity," an infinitely small point containing an infinitely high concentration of matter, expanding in size to what we observe today. The theory of inflation, a super-fast expansion of space proposed in recent decades, fills in many important details, such as why slight lumps in the concentration of matter in the early universe coalesced into large celestial bodies such as galaxies and clusters of galaxies.
09:38pm 04/06/12 Permalink
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fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
20775 posts
That was all very hard to understand to me. The official fpot theory of the universe is that eventually every star will burn all its fuel and experience heat death. They will still contain large amounts of mass and will still generate a gravitational field. Over a period of roughly eleventy billion years, all of the dead stars in the universe will pull themselves together and create the singularity formally known as the Big Bang. After another period of eleventy billion years this singularity will explode (or something) and the Big Bang will happen all over again. Dark matter and the dark energy it creates can simply be explained as a floating mass of alternate forum accounts created by Door.

So yeah that's it, universe mystery solved.
09:50pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Shroud
Sydney, New South Wales
251 posts
how did it originate fpot?
09:53pm 04/06/12 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
20776 posts
It always existed. I know something 'always existing' is a bit of a mind boggle but that's only because the human brain relies so much on time to function properly. Just imagine something always existing and ask yourself, why is it impossible?
09:55pm 04/06/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15254 posts
fpot, those dead stars would have to have massive gravitational fields to overpower the expansion of the universe which is increasing in speed.
09:56pm 04/06/12 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
20777 posts
Yeah but that expansion is going to have to slow down eventually. Plus heat death will not occur for a very long time. I can't really google a good estimate but the time it takes for a black hole to dissipate is 10 with a hundred zeroes after it years, so much longer than that I guess?

Oh and just in case anyone thinks I am trying to pretend I know what I am talking about, I'll say what I truly believe about the inner-workings of the universe and trying to understand it. If you plonked an ant in front of a Picasso painting and asked the ant to explain the painting to you, the ant would be in the same boat that we are in trying to unlock the universe's secrets.
10:02pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Rhys84au
Brisbane, Queensland
25 posts
those morgan freeman doco's actually had some really awesome theories on the universe.

i particularly liked the black hole/white hole scenario where we have 2 universes existing within "microns" of each other (imagine 2 sheets pulled taut one held above the other an inch away) then drop a rock in a couple of places on the top sheet and let those create "contact points" if the sheets represent the 2 universes (the matter and antimatter universes) we get transitions of matter between the 2 at these points via black holes and white holes.

few other theories floating around out there that they discussed and were pretty cool.
10:04pm 04/06/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
8900 posts
Some Galaxies are moving in a way that suggests something outside our known Universe is pulling them.
There was no Big Bang.

It was... a Big suck.
Instead of the inside exploding out it was pulled apart and is still being pulled.

10:10pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Zakson
Gold Coast, Queensland
191 posts
This may sound strange, but it could actually be the best explanation of how the universe began

Ok most likely not going to read this article, but is it just another pass-the-buck theory? Like those people that say "Humans were put here by aliens". Yeah, great, thanks for theorizing ... now tell us how the aliens came to exist.
10:29pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
13230 posts
Seriously guys if Jesus isn't in your *theories* then your hearts are as closed as your minds.

/troll
10:32pm 04/06/12 Permalink
DecayingCorpse
Brisbane, Queensland
2020 posts
worst troll ever.

i like science. at least it makes an attempt to explain things other than "god did it, thats the end of it".
10:35pm 04/06/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9229 posts
ROFL fuckpot

You should all know that God lives in the Kolob system.
10:50pm 04/06/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9230 posts
Joseph Smith came out of hyperspace too close to the system. He is as clumsy as he is stupid.
10:52pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Timmeh
Brisbane, Queensland
2307 posts
worst troll ever.

i like science. at least it makes an attempt to explain things other than "god did it, thats the end of it".

its liek those argument you here little kids have


"because I said so!"
11:00pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Dodgymon
Brisbane, Queensland
2099 posts
/insert random joke about Jim's mum here ---->
01:07am 05/06/12 Permalink
Vash
3532 posts
does that mean anything eaten by a black hole goes to a new universe... or something?
this is all fascinating stuff.
04:44am 05/06/12 Permalink
Superform
Netherlands
7429 posts
is this gonna make my petrol cheaper?
07:16am 05/06/12 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
9662 posts
It always existed. I know something 'always existing' is a bit of a mind boggle but that's only because the human brain relies so much on time to function properly. Just imagine something always existing and ask yourself, why is it impossible?

Why did something always exist ? And something is vague. Something could have been "god".
ps. Any proof ?
Your something always existed theory sounds shit.
08:35am 05/06/12 Permalink
carson
Gippsland, Victoria
1529 posts

This is a better theory. With better evidence.
08:40am 05/06/12 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
12811 posts
Pft, I don't need your evidence. I've seen the movie Black Hole!
08:42am 05/06/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
6011 posts
Gargh, you guys, The Doctor created a time loop and the universe exists because it had to exist for him to initially make it exist. Also, a turtle, which carries it on its back, and is going to JUDGE YOU, and you should give its robed magic men who have been wrong about everything money and power. Do you think that the universe experiences anxiety? Why wouldn't a rock?
09:01am 05/06/12 Permalink
simul
Brisbane, Queensland
1356 posts
Blerk, recursion.
09:08am 05/06/12 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
6980 posts
Yes, the universe may be inside a black hole. Also, it may have been sneezed out of the nose of a being called the "The Great Green Arkleseizure" ;)
09:19am 05/06/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
6012 posts
^ While that was my reaction, I have to now devil's advocate, and point out that in all fairness, it is a hypothesis potentially at least based in some half decent physics.
09:25am 05/06/12 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
6982 posts
Havok was based on some half decent physics, but look where that got us :P
09:29am 05/06/12 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
6013 posts
I still remember the loaves of bread in thief 3, and the misery their bounciness caused me...

The old days were so much better, of "you drop it, it falls, clunks when it hits the ground and stays there".
11:35am 05/06/12 Permalink
orbitor
Brisbane, Queensland
8873 posts
how did it originate fpot?


there was nothing 'before' the big bang, because time did not exist before the big bang. When all mass and energy is at a single point, there is no spacetime, and therefore no time.
12:41pm 05/06/12 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
20781 posts
lol poor Obes. Something that has always existed is your teenage angst. It has now expanded into Obes angst.

Like orbitor said the big bang wasn't a singularity floating in empty space and then exploding into it. When it exploded it created space. When I first heard that my mind was blown a little bit.
04:22pm 05/06/12 Permalink
Jim
UK
12919 posts
obes is cranky cos he was never a teenager, he was just born old and dirty
god made him that way
05:13pm 05/06/12 Permalink
Moo
Brisbane, Queensland
982 posts
no, the universe as we know it was created by someone dividing by 0.

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