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Enska
Sydney, New South Wales
1780 posts
Hey boys (and the girls), so I've been tempted to throw this up over the course of probably the past 18 months, but more so now after shit has completely hit the fan. (as I know many of the people that frequent this forum will be quick to throw up the usual talk that, well... frequents this forum)

So basically, My fiance has no family, apart from the gem of a person mentioned in the topic. He was arrested 5 years ago and did an 18 month stint in silverwater, I won't go into the details but after he served his sentence, he moved into our apartment and proceeded to sleep on my lounge for the next however many years (fast forward to about 2 weeks ago)
So anyway, over the however many years, he found no end of criticism for the way I and my girl lived our life. That was fine, I could take it with a grain of salt, being that I know without a doubt that both of us have worked pretty damn hard to get to the financial and quality of life etc etc position that we are in.

fast forward again to today :P. fuckwit has decided to come over, being that he still has keys to the locks which I've been nice enough not to change YET. He has come in, thrown my pc,parts,tv,ps3,coffee table and more (it was most of our living room ><) out over the balcony. Thanks dad!

I'm a bit torn as to what to do. (changing locks is a fucking start,grrrr at myself ><)
Do I have any legal leg to stand on, and I mean actual fuck him up, go back to jail type leg. or should I forget this idea and just deal with the fact I didn't fucking change the lock!%*$^!$*^!
08:15pm 04/06/12 Permalink
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fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
20771 posts
Is all the shit destroyed? That'd be $1000s of dollars worth of shit wouldn't it? Is your fiance sitting on the fence or would she fully support you if you wanted to kick him out? (Actually fuck her opinion ALPHA-MALE HOOOO)

Pretty sure willfully destroying property like that is a criminal offense. Call the police and mention that you think this guy might be a bikie.
08:19pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
12806 posts
Well my guess would be to look into filing a restarining order and what is needed for that.

What does your partner think of the situation, it is her dad?
08:20pm 04/06/12 Permalink
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Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
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Well my guess would be to look into filing a restarining order and what is needed for that.

What does your partner think of the situation, it is her dad?

This. Get a restraining order and get him some psychological help. Dude's obviously fucked in the head.

If you change the locks he'll probably just break in somehow by the sounds of it.
08:26pm 04/06/12 Permalink
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do0b
Brisbane, Queensland
4340 posts
that constitutes domestic violence and you are able to request an AVO. During the AVO hearing you will be able speak to the magistrate about some form of restitution. Your first step is to phone the nearest police station and make a statement.
08:28pm 04/06/12 Permalink
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WirlWind
Central Coast, New South Wales
227 posts
I have a spare chainsaw if you need it, bro.

Or you can go the pansy way and call the cops and have a chat with them about it. It'd be your best bet. Your PC today, could be a car tomorrow. You the month after.

If my father in law camped out in my house and then disrespected me that much, I would have sold him to the mines to make restitution for the shit he broke and the rent he hadn't paid.

Your missus will eventually get over it and you two can get on with your lives without having to deal with that shit.
09:13pm 04/06/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15253 posts
heh love how we all got nuked cept for shad


anyway the first thing you should have done is call the police instead of coming on line and asking people what to do.
09:19pm 04/06/12 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
18775 posts

Have the chap arrested for damage to private property. sounds like a real scumbag and best to remove him from your life. sadly enough.
09:20pm 04/06/12 Permalink
dranged
Melbourne, Victoria
2015 posts
From the above it sounds like you've been pretty kind, mate...

Well it all hinges on the girl. You can't put her dad away even if he deserves it and not have blowback from the girl, I mean, fine he trashed some 'stuff' but he is your girls dad and arsehole or not if he is her only family.. For her sake, to hell with Dad, try and work around it.

Ie. Change your locks, don't ever fucking come over here again, else I file restraining charges et al.

Then again I've got nothing. Living with my GF's dad on my couch for 3 years? Dropkick.
09:20pm 04/06/12 Permalink
bepatient
Melbourne, Victoria
1029 posts
Shit man, that really sucks. My thoughts would also be to go with the Police, but obviously this would all depend on how the Mrs feels.

I'm honestly the last person who knows what to do in a situation like this, but it sounds like this guy will need to be forced to back the fuck away.

Is it possible to make a report to the Police but not charge the guy, ya know so like an official 'on the record' warning kind of thing incase it happens again?
09:22pm 04/06/12 Permalink
shad
Brisbane, Queensland
3734 posts
"We teach people how to treat us", p.s. I might have heard that phrase on something lame like Oprah but it does ring true.
09:33pm 04/06/12 Permalink
eXemplar
Brisbane, Queensland
2754 posts
Talk to a lawyer before you do anything, seriously.
09:38pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Pieman
Brisbane, Queensland
73 posts
mate I am not to sure about New South Wales but I imagine it would be comparable to QLD. If it was here you could go down a couple of paths with the Police (or both - which would be better). The damage to the stuff would constitute a wilful damage offence and the circumstances of him entering the house to do the damage might be enough to put it up to burglary (enter a dwelling and commit an indictable offence). Basicly the burglary hinges on his access to the house, if he was no longer living there and not welcome etc it would be sweet. (Burglary is a max life imprisonment offence in qld). His chances of going back inside for a wilful damage or a Burglary would depend on whether or not he is on parole still and his criminal history (if he went inside for an assault or some sort of offence against the person that history is not really relevant to property offences)

The other side is the domestic violence. In qld it would be as simple as going to a court house and asking to fill in a private domestic violence aplication where you could specify no contact conditions. Given his history and the damage to the stuff you would be pretty confident of getting the order granted. If he then breaches the order (could be as simple as a phone call or rocking up to your house) he commits a criminal offence (in qld breach of DV is max 1 year or $2000 dollars for the first 2 offences and then doubles after that).

As others have said the best thing you can do is drop into your local cop shop as soon as possible so that evidence can be preserved etc...
10:21pm 04/06/12 Permalink
DecayingCorpse
Brisbane, Queensland
2019 posts
change the locks tell him not to come around unless he rings, and suggest him to keep his fucking mouth shut about your lifestyle while pointing out how fucked his is.
10:32pm 04/06/12 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
2891 posts
wtf, was he trying to steal it, and forgot to get someone to wait at the bottom to catch the stuff?


that would piss me off no end, but I know family, no matter how fucked, can be delicate, have you spoke to your wife to be?, how is she feeling? (if part of his problem with the way you two live to do with the TV and PC?).


I would ask your partner if she agrees to changing the locks, (now there has been damage), say that you are prepared to take an AVO if she is scared to,


one other option that is kinda halfway is ask for the key back, (might sound a little soft at this point) if he has made a copy, and there is a repeat, will that is criminal damage, he might have not have had to "break in" but he would have still entered illegally
10:36pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
13231 posts
I have no time for problem in-laws. I chose to have a relationship with my partner, not her in-laws, and I have told her this much multiple times (and I have nowhere near the kind of hassles you have!)

Make a statement at the police station, start making a paper trail. Consult with a lawyer ASAP.

If you intend to maintain a relationship with your fiance then it is important where she stands on the matter. What does she think?
10:40pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Timmeh
Brisbane, Queensland
2306 posts
pretty sure you should of went

Wifey/gf then Ausgamers/Police.
10:59pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
12810 posts
Pieman wins the thread. Case closed.
11:05pm 04/06/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
8902 posts
Why did he do it ?

Are you sure it was him ?

Is he still on Parole ?

Why was he living with you ?
I can understand helping him out for a few weeks or w/e but what 3 years on the couch ?

11:12pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Sip
Brisbane, Queensland
542 posts
Good questions FaceMan (never thought I would say that) feels like there's more to this story then a simple matter of losing his marbles and going on a rampage in your place.
11:17pm 04/06/12 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
9232 posts
It would be very odd if it was someone else. I assume there was no forced entry and nothing was stolen, just destroyed.
11:24pm 04/06/12 Permalink
Cheez
Brisbane, Queensland
650 posts
Pie FTW

Make sure you take plenty of photos.
12:17am 05/06/12 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
12963 posts
1. he very likely/obviously has mental problems, take that into consideration++
2. ask your mrs or if you already have, tell us what her position on this is?
I know for a fact if my Mrs dad did that, she would call the cops herself and have the cunt locked up
3. I never have a third, seriously - what's with that?
12:43am 05/06/12 Permalink
Snakeman
Queensland
813 posts
Judge Judy will sort it all out for ya on national television. This would be right up her ally !!!
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08:38am 05/06/12 Permalink
Persay
Brisbane, Queensland
7530 posts
white trash white trash
06:56pm 05/06/12 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
33799 posts
sounds like pops-in-law is just misunderstood
07:00pm 05/06/12 Permalink
Enska
Sydney, New South Wales
1781 posts
I forgot I put this up, I was pretty fkn angry at the time :P

problem sorted.
ftr my fiance is done with him and I posted this literally after I'd recovered my shit off the lawn below.
thanks for the input regardless though chaps.
07:54pm 05/06/12 Permalink
konstie
Melbourne, Victoria
1992 posts
see, my opinion was the best !
08:30pm 05/06/12 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
13242 posts
see, my opinion was the best !

The mods have told me your opinion was irrelevant. Who am I but a suckling babe on the nipple of life to question the mods' judgement?

We haven't been in that exact position, Enska, but when we did choose to cease communicating with someone we also moved house and found that very helpful. That way they don't know your phone number, address, etc. Obviously they can still get it if they really want to, but it adds an extra barrier and protects you from the 'drunken rage' type attack where they don't have the time/skills/ability to premeditate find our your address and so on.
09:14pm 05/06/12 Permalink
AndrewB
22 posts
Gather some of his belongings and burn them. Pay back is a bitch
09:18pm 05/06/12 Permalink
Enska
Sydney, New South Wales
1782 posts
Yeah we have decided to move to another place, was on the hunt as of this morning. I'm over the shitty bathroom anyway.
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