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"EA in a Nutshell" Youtube Video
Ivonin
Brisbane, Queensland
1071 posts


Thought this was pretty well done and deserved a look by you guys. Pretty much summing up how EA is treating everyone (from developers to consumers) these days. You have to love our nerd rage.

And to quote the description:

-This is for buying out some of the best game companies and turning them to mediocrity.
-This is for having some of the worst customer service in the gaming industry.
-This is for deliberately holding back game content for the sole purpose of making customers pay more for it later as DLC.
-This is for strictly enforcing copyrights on content that you did not even create.
-This is for taking the Need for Speed franchise and completely ruining it.
-This is for supporting the S.O.P.A.
-This is for overworking your employees with no benefeits, demolishing any creative talent they have.
-This is for making terms of use that allow you to backstab your customers any time you see fit.
-This is for releasing the same things every year, an increasingly large number being the only difference.
-This is for forcing your customers to stay online to even play several games you publish at all.
-This is for backstabbing Valve, preventing the developers you publish for from releasing their games via Steam for the sole purpose of promoting your own platform.
-This is for overhyping your games and not delivering the content you promised.
-This is for bribing media review organizations to increase the rep of your games.
-This is for monopolizing the entire gaming industry and crushing all that oppose you.

I'm sorry, Electronic Arts. I used to like you, but you had this one coming.
Your days of having hotels on Boardwalk and Park Place are over.
12:20pm 29/05/12 Permalink
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copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
2857 posts
quick poll, how many games have people got in their origin account now? (mine is 2)
12:30pm 29/05/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15209 posts
i have me3 and swtor. i feel dirty.
12:31pm 29/05/12 Permalink
scuzzy
Brisbane, Queensland
15360 posts
Copuis: One
12:33pm 29/05/12 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
9681 posts
I don't know what an origin account is and I have never purchased an EA game. I've played MOHAA and that Godfather GTA ripoff for free, but didn't enjoy them.
12:36pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Insom
Canada
4033 posts
i just heard origin existed
12:36pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Ivonin
Brisbane, Queensland
1072 posts
BF3, Syndicate and Swtor =\
12:39pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
6772 posts
Only have BF3 and SWTOR which I don't even play anymore.
12:47pm 29/05/12 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
12957 posts
I often wonder what the catalyst will be with consumers deciding to finally take a stand
first they will need to be organised ..
12:58pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Dan
Special Text
Brisbane, Queensland
13229 posts
What a massive load of bollocks. Most of the not-completely-absurd criticisms in that video and its associated comments would be more accurately levelled at Activision, Microsoft, Sony or Ubisoft than EA.

I really don't get the EA hate (as in, singling them out as a prime-evil among all the other major publishers). Sure as a corporate entity, they've done some lameass stuff in the past, but its a huge stretch to say anything they have going on at the moment is "evil".

Somewhat ironically, the video itself appears to have been created in Gary's Mod, a user-created mod for a game that was distributed by EA.
01:16pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
6947 posts
quick poll, how many games have people got in their origin account now? (mine is 2)

Origin account?
01:31pm 29/05/12 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
912 posts
Cmon, things arent that bad yet

01:31pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19161 posts
Haven't you heard Dan? Its cool to hate EA
01:38pm 29/05/12 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
913 posts
Hating EA is so 2005
01:38pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Zakson
Gold Coast, Queensland
186 posts
After purchasing Syndicate (for $30, relax) on PC, I approve of this video.

The game has so much potential, but the console port completely ruins the experience. Let me change the FOV and Sensitivity!!!!!!

Also 2 games; C&C4 ($5, had to see if it was as bad as everyone was saying ... it's worse) and Syndicate.

01:51pm 29/05/12 Permalink
greazy
Brisbane, Queensland
5374 posts
That was a horrible video. As Dan said a lot of the criticism is misguided and even completely false.

Monopolising? Haha.

EA has made some amazing games. Dead Space imo was great.

P.S I hate EA like a mad dog hates you. This is just silly.
01:52pm 29/05/12 Permalink
glynd
Melbourne, Victoria
670 posts
Syndicate, SWTOR, BF3, Kingdom of Amalur and ME3. All were CD keys i bought elsewhere.
01:57pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Seven
Wollongong, New South Wales
1486 posts
Only one: FIFA 12 and that was so I could avoid the retail price, by buying a CD key online.
02:00pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Twisted
Brisbane, Queensland
11669 posts

Worst video ever to start off with. As for how many Origin titles, just BF3. If I could get that over to Steam I would be really happy...I hate origin, it's just terrible.
02:00pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19163 posts
All were CD keys i bought elsewhere.


Unless they fell off the back of a truck, EA is still getting paid somewhere along the line.
02:08pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
6948 posts
ea_spouse.
Enough said.
02:17pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19165 posts
ea_spouse ([info]ea_spouse) wrote,
2004-11-10 00:01:00
02:21pm 29/05/12 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
6782 posts
they obviously had her silenced, if you know what I mean
02:35pm 29/05/12 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
5615 posts
quick poll, how many games have people got in their origin account now? (mine is 2)

2. I have two assassin creed games there.

I bought them through a cdkey store though so it's ok.
02:44pm 29/05/12 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
9683 posts
Not that anyone cares, but for the record, I have nothing against EA. When this thread came up I googled what games they've released, and it turns out they're all the ones where I cannot fathom what gets people so hyped, or simply haven't heard of them. A lot of them seem to be games that I perceive as targeted at meatheads, like sports games and over the top war games.
03:04pm 29/05/12 Permalink
DM
Gold Coast, Queensland
4690 posts
03:20pm 29/05/12 Permalink
maRtz
Brisbane, Queensland
3636 posts
Your days of having hotels on Boardwalk and Park Place are over.


oh really? you think that video will change the world?

oh and when that dood popped up with a review score of 9.9, it reminded me when Ausgamers reviewed MW3 and gave it an incredible 9.2? give me a fucking break. surely they would have lost 5 points just for releasing the same game again for ridiculous pricing and all the overhyped bullshit promotion it got.
04:48pm 29/05/12 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
20729 posts
Actually they gave MW3 9.6. Fucking lol.

edit: Jesus christ that video was so fucking stupid.
05:18pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
19983 posts
quick poll, how many games have people got in their origin account now? (mine is 2)

I don't have origin installed, what do I win?
05:20pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19167 posts
Don't talk about review scores, you'll summon an angry Obes
05:21pm 29/05/12 Permalink
typo
Other International
6500 posts
you'll summon an angry Obes


As far as I knew you could only summon 4 types of Obes:

* Angry Obes
* Obsessed with glow bowling Obes
* Making fun of other fat people Obes
* Covered in KFC grease Obes

EDIT: Oh, I forgot the irrational hatred of Java Obes.
05:38pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
13213 posts
I have one, BF3

Compared to 15 in Steam
06:08pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Trauma
Melbourne, Victoria
2621 posts
quick poll, how many games have people got in their origin account now? (mine is 2)

Also 2, BF3 and Kingdoms of Amalur. 79 on Steam.
06:53pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
19986 posts
Question about awrejun, if I install originanal and enter the cd keys of all my oldass EA games, does this mean I'll have to run origin every time I want to play them but don't need a cd, like with steam? Or does it just add them to my account and I'll still need the cd to play the game? Coz I have this one particular game I like but it's a fucking asshole to actually make run. There's SOMETHING on my computer it hates and always bitches about the secure rom shit failing so it'd be great if I could actually play a game I paid for instead of just using it as a FUCKING COASTER. YOU HEAR ME EA?

e: oh and yeah I tried entering the cd key in steam to try & add it to my steam account but no dice.
07:03pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Mordecai
Victoria
1351 posts
Games in Origin - 5

Mass Effect 2
Mass Effect 3
Battlefield 3
SWTOR
Dragon Age 2

I have no problem with Origin.

-This is for blah blah blah

That list can be used for several game companies.

Be online to play a game - Blizzard, UbiSoft
Worst customer support - Valve

etc etc.
07:11pm 29/05/12 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
2632 posts
Yeah I think Blactivision is far worse than EA, I also don't like 2K for their consistent regional discrimination.

I like it how Sonic the Hedgehog, Mario and Halo were the under appreciated original titles.
07:46pm 29/05/12 Permalink
darkjedi
Hobart, Tasmania
3391 posts
Games I've paid for in Origin? 3. ME3, Bulletstorm and Battlefield: BC2.

Games in my Steam library? pushing 180.

Curious why Blizzard isn't getting abused like fuck for making D3 purely online for single player, as Ubisoft got reamed for it pretty hard. Got to love the spergy video game nerds out there who have a massive hard-on for Blizzard games, but the moment someone else does it they're the ultra evil.
07:47pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
4891 posts
As far as I knew you could only summon 4 types of Obes:


Gotta catch em all!
07:49pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19168 posts
Curious why Blizzard isn't getting abused like fuck for making D3 purely online for single player, as Ubisoft got reamed for it pretty hard. Got to love the spergy video game nerds out there who have a massive hard-on for Blizzard games, but the moment someone else does it they're the ultra evil.


You haven't been paying much attention to the internet have you
08:58pm 29/05/12 Permalink
darkjedi
Hobart, Tasmania
3394 posts
When you're stuck on MBB and don't get anywhere near as much time to trawl gaming news sites as you used to? I've been living mostly in the dark beyond what little I've read into things on here or SA.

I miss ADSL :(
10:00pm 29/05/12 Permalink
Viper119
UK
1543 posts
After those reveals about how Valve is structured internally, it's no surprise they can't deliver anything on time or deliver any kind of consistent professional services, e.g. customer support.

This kind of thing should be talked about though, reminds me of a similar example of the new mobile payment start-up Square.

http://www.quora.com/Square-company/Is-Square-an-unpleasant-place-to-work

Despite the mixed reviews and claims of 'ex-staff', all the replies and the Glassdoors reviews are pretty damning.

Bad culture yo, bad culture.
10:19pm 29/05/12 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
5623 posts
When you're stuck on MBB and don't get anywhere near as much time to trawl gaming news sites as you used to? I've been living mostly in the dark beyond what little I've read into things on here or SA.

I miss ADSL :(

Threre's a thousand posts in d3 thread, 90% of which are complaints, 80% of those while the server is down. Now you know so you don't have to waste the bandwidth.
11:10pm 29/05/12 Permalink
typo
Other International
6501 posts
You haven't been paying much attention to the internet have you


There are still a lot of white knights out there though. To paraphrase: "I don't care what flavour Blizzard's shit is, as long as it's Blizzard's! NOM NOM NOM! I LOVE EATING SHIT!" And my other personal favourite (again, paraphrased): "Games are all going to go this way, so we might as well lube up now rather than later!"
12:29am 30/05/12 Permalink
HERMITech
Brisbane, Queensland
7884 posts
Ahem *

"It's in the game....
You've already paid for"

Start consuming more effectively, make them provide you with a better product.
As much as it disturbs me, you lot are gonna be breeders someday (some of you already are)

Stop accepting this beta testing shit as a retail ready product.

Short history lesson (accuracy may vary)
The funny thing is, hunters eventually utilised farmers to provide more efficient, better food stocks. (You do this in almost all games you play).

Once they realised they could be more effective hunters when they were better fed, they started their own farms.

You the gamers, are the new hunters and if you want to consume better games

Stop buying half arsed crap





last edited by HERMITech at 00:39:39 30/May/12
12:33am 30/05/12 Permalink
Trauma
Melbourne, Victoria
2622 posts
Games I've paid for in Origin? 3. ME3, Bulletstorm and Battlefield: BC2.

Games in my Steam library? pushing 180.

Curious why Blizzard isn't getting abused like fuck for making D3 purely online for single player, as Ubisoft got reamed for it pretty hard. Got to love the spergy video game nerds out there who have a massive hard-on for Blizzard games, but the moment someone else does it they're the ultra evil.

I did, I'm sure if you looked around you could find me whining about it. Most importantly though I did not and will not buy D3.
12:41am 30/05/12 Permalink
Lithium
Rockhampton, Queensland
275 posts
Video is correct.

EA sucks balls and most notably and also most dissappointingly, Battlefield Operation Metro sucked balls.

FIFA is the only game in recent times that I have bought and enjoyed where EA has been at the helm. They still managed to fuck up the online multiplayer but I can't have everything I guess.

I wish there was a legit statistic on how many people pirate EA games, play them for 5 minutes, realize that what they are playing is shit and proceed to uninstall.

Valve and Bethesda appear to be the only companies who seem to really know what gamers want.
02:10am 30/05/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15214 posts
Valve and Bethesda appear to be the only companies who seem to really know what gamers want.


cept bethesda's parent company supports regional pricing.
08:26am 30/05/12 Permalink
Ozzy
175 posts
My last EA game is Kingdoms of Amalur. It was an ok game, but now they have trashed the BF franchise I am officially boycotting EA games from now on.

I wish I could get a refund. I feel soo dirty, curled up and sobbing on the floor.
08:50am 30/05/12 Permalink
kos
Germany
2050 posts
cept bethesda's parent company supports regional pricing.

I'm pretty sure Valve do too on big new releases, don't they?
09:08am 30/05/12 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
6782 posts
I'm pretty sure Valve do too on big new releases, don't they?

Valve seem to offer an early bird special, where the very large AAA games besides COD are on par with American prices, but are then pushed to our "normal" price after a few weeks.
10:02am 30/05/12 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
19171 posts
Valve and Bethesda appear to be the only companies who seem to really know what gamers want.


Yes, gamers want more hats, microtransactions and buggy games!
10:21am 30/05/12 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
2859 posts
I'm pretty sure Valve do too on big new releases, don't they?



I've found that they only region price when the local arm of the production house (not valve) tells them too, take batman for example I bought the pre-order at $60 or whatever, two weeks later, time warner had asked that the price be $99 or so. so valve was looking after us, the gamer,

my issue with EA is that they stopped using steam on the new games, otherwise I'd have no games in spywear, i mean origin, it was if they knew people wouldn't use it,

I would love to know how many games it has sold thru the store, and how many have been bought elsewhere (like CD key stores, real bricks and mortar stores etc)
10:30am 30/05/12 Permalink
maRtz
Brisbane, Queensland
3638 posts
we always whigne about regionalised pricing but what about 3rd world countries where people earn only a few hundred bucks a month. Wouldn't be fair to charge them say a quarter of their monthly wage on a game. So I think there is good reason for regionalised pricing. Just playing the devils advocate here.
11:40am 30/05/12 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
18761 posts
no one is forced to buy their games... but by all means post a youtube video.
12:03pm 30/05/12 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
2863 posts
we always whigne about regionalised pricing but what about 3rd world countries where people earn only a few hundred bucks a month. Wouldn't be fair to charge them say a quarter of their monthly wage on a game. So I think there is good reason for regionalised pricing. Just playing the devils advocate here.



you are kidding right, pretty sure and working for a $300 means that you pretty unlikely to have the internet, a computer or let alone one that is going to be running the latest games,

also, using your method, we should have had cheaper games than the US
12:15pm 30/05/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
15215 posts
I'm pretty sure Valve do too on big new releases, don't they?



afaik valve doesn't region price their own games which is what i was getting at.



Yes, gamers want more hats, microtransactions and buggy games!


considering they sell so many damn hats etc, yes that's what many gamers want :/
12:30pm 30/05/12 Permalink
maRtz
Brisbane, Queensland
3639 posts
you are kidding right, pretty sure and working for a $300 means that you pretty unlikely to have the internet, a computer or let alone one that is going to be running the latest games,

also, using your method, we should have had cheaper games than the US


not kidding at all, it's all relative, well mostly. My wifes parents live in a poor European country. They earn fuck all compared to us but have everything we do. Car, computer, vid cams, own their apartment outright etc.. They earn more than $300 a month (I was just using that for argument sake).

Also your comment about the US, I don't think that's true as their average wage is a lot lower than ours? I can't confirm this but I always thought that was the case.
01:39pm 30/05/12 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
6787 posts
Still doesn't mean we should pay a premum just because we "earn" more. Just like how 1 euro doesn't equal 1 US dollar.
01:46pm 30/05/12 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
2865 posts
not kidding at all, it's all relative, well mostly. My wifes parents live in a poor European country. They earn fuck all compared to us but have everything we do. Car, computer, vid cams, own their apartment outright etc.. They earn more than $300 a month (I was just using that for argument sake).

Also your comment about the US, I don't think that's true as their average wage is a lot lower than ours? I can't confirm this but I always thought that was the case.



well now that our dollar is at parity, however prior to that, it is was a different matter

but of the issue I feel is that 15-20 years ago it was fair to charge us $60 for a game, and charge the US $30 because our dollar was worth about half the value, and there was some small part in shipping,

now it seems that the price seems to have change to maintain that difference ignoring the fact that the our dollar is worth much more, and that for a digital copy, there is no shipping fees, (okay there is a maintaining of servers, but that cost is the same regardless of where the end user is)
02:56pm 30/05/12 Permalink
maRtz
Brisbane, Queensland
3641 posts
Still doesn't mean we should pay a premum just because we "earn" more. Just like how 1 euro doesn't equal 1 US dollar.


so for argument sake, your saying that a person from a poor 3rd world country should pay as much for games as we do? eg a new release title for $100?

You realise that most of the cheap cdkeys we buy are from these poorer countries?

I'm just playing devils advocate here, looking at it from both sides.
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