This is the year NSW will win. Surely. Please let it happen. :(
The Queensland side is still way stronger, but if we manage to keep Mitchell Pierce out of the side then we are always a chance.
1. Josh Dugan
2. Jarryd Hayne
3. Jamal Idris
4. Matt King
5. Akuila Uate
6. Todd Carney
7. Jarrod Mullen
8. Paul Gallen
9. Danny Buderus (c)
10. Tim Mannah
11. Glenn Stewart
12. Tony Williams
13. Greg Bird
INT: Kurt Gidley
INT: Anthony Watmough
INT: Trent Merrin
INT: Jamie Lyon
Jury is out whether Gidley will be back in time from injury.
Now I think the time has come to forget about the future in regards to the NSW side. The time has come to just pick the side who has the best chance of winning because god damn six years ios a long ass losing streak. This is the reason Danny Buderus should be captain. He was captain during a real purple patch for the Blues and that positivity is something they need. He also doesn't have six series losses in a row mentally breaking him and making him second guess himself.
And they need to dangle the world's biggest carrot ever in front of Wayne Bennett to convince him to coach the Blues. He was assistant coach of the kiwis so surely loyalty related bullshit shouldn't be too much of an issue.
edit: oh and forwards are boring as fuck so I just kind of half assedly picked them so if I have made some bad errors or some are injured just let me know. I am 100% confident that is our best backline, though.
Maybe this post should have a disclaimer "THIS IS MY FANTASY TEAM AND IN NO WAY REFLECTS THE ACTUAL PICK". That way we can all just go about our business.
There is a 99.9% chance that picking Hayne at 5/8 will be the greatest selection gaffe of all time and a 0% chance that it could be the most genius move ever. There was a 0.01% margin of error on what I just said.
I really wouldn't be too unhappy with Soward in the side, but Carney is just so much better and now he isn't a piece of media poison he can be in there.
bird, gallen and watmough = guaranteed extra 10 penalties per game
Remember that regular season rules are suspended for SoO games, so maybe five penalties.
I have no idea why they insist on picking Pierce. At no point in his career has he been in the same league as other representative halves like Lockyer, Johns, Fitler, Cronk, or Thurston or pretty much any other representative half in the history of the game.
Even when comparing to current NSW possible choices, he''s not as good as Soward, he's not as good as Wallace, he's not as good as that guy from Manly that I can't recall the name of. In fact there are far fewer halves that are worse than he is than are better yet they can't seem to look past him for some reason despite years and years of failure.
The only reason I can think of them picking him is that they didn't see a point in competing against what is almost the entire Australian representative side so they put him in instead of breaking the spirit of someone who is actually any good.
No doubt they are good players, but at the moment it seems like they are having dramas every game with slight injuries etc and when they come back from injuries the next doesn't seem far away. Origin is twice the intensity, so I would have to see a key play maker get hurt in the first 20mins and QLD just blow NSW out of the water again. After 6 years im kinda hoping for a really good NSW effort.
very little between soward and pearce but pearce has played a lot with carney.
i think they need a hooker that can kick - Ennis.
ennis can get under the skin of players too.
hayne isnt fit enough for origin.
I think NSW had a good plan last year and just few changes are needed.
buderus is past it.
Its an outstanding QLD team very tough to beat once, impossible twice.
If NSW can do it Carney will be the Man of the series.
you try to hard with your lateral thinking is your problem
robbie farah has been the best nsw hooker in terms of skill for a long time, but nsw want the grub effect that ennis brings to the table hence
how did that work out for them when they were up in a game last year or the year before and he gave away the penalty right on the line and qld went on the score and win the game
Old maybe. He is still a fantastic number 9 and a level head is what you need at that position. He also should be captain but I am not to upset if Gallen is still in charge.
Yeah although Buderus is in form and they will pick him, he's not going to be around next year. Farrah will be and they should be getting him in now and getting him used to playing with the team.
That's pretty much the biggest advantage Qld have over NSW is that for most of the players it's a home away from home since they have played together for so long. They even invited some NSW players to their practice match this Friday, that's how confident they are.
For some reason the NSW's selectors think preparing for the future is putting their only Origin star, who plays for the worst club in the comp in a position he doesn't normally play. What they should be doing is going to the best clubs in the comp, getting players that actually play in that position and sticking with them for more than one or two games.
They will pick buderus based on his leadership role.
Honestly, a NSW squad without these players will not perform.
Jamal Idris
Tony Williams
Brett Morris
Michael Jennings
Danny Buderus
James Tamou
Ryan Hoffman
Paul Gallen
NSW should have brought Wallace back as soon as he recovered from his busted nut. Even Broncos supporters underestimate how important and influencial he is.
Each year i give him shit about how the 2nd game is rigged (to help the side who lost the first game win the 2nd game to boost 3rd game viewing).
I also try to interrupt his viewing by calling during a game and pretending to be from his ADSL or phone company with an account issue.
Buderus is a fucking kick ass player. I really question your footballing knowledge if you can't see it. He is approaching levels of Cameron Smith good at hooker. He is solid, smart and innovative in that position. He, Gallen and Carney were going to be our most important players this year. Hopefully Buderus will make it. He also has the added benefit of not being mentally broken by the last six years of defeats.
Gidley can be hot or really cold but his ability to play in multiple positions is valuable. Maybe start with Greg Bird at 13 and have Luke Lewis on the bench to play the utility role.
edit: edited out the drivel, let's keep it to the football :P
And congratulations on admitting to being a complete unco davo. Only socially-awkard uncos hate sport. And it makes me cringe everytime a really man makes the second game is rigged joke. I guess while we are watching Origin you'll be watching My Little Pony yeah? :)
lol, l2read bro. I said i DGAF about footy. Didnt say anything about hating sport - unless you're one of the fucking bogans that think league is the only sport that counts. :)
Nah he is still a kick ass player. It's just that you see his age and automatically think things about him. Did you see him in the Knights game last night? He played like a champion. He has slowed down in his age but speed isn't exactly the #1 trait required by a hooker anyway.
I reckon Wallace is a dirty double agent player. No Broncos faggots in my NSW blues team pls.
That second string side is fucking shit. NSW would flog it.
You sure?
By my count, there are at least 7 guys in that second side that NSW would pick were they available to them
Assuming QLD don't pick them in their best side - Tate, Tonga, Cherry-Evans, Prince, Civoniceva, Maguire & Taylor would all make the NSW side easily imo
I don't think there is much hope for NSW this year or even next, you'd think they would learn by now that they need to beat a TEAM of talented players and not just a group of talented players thrown together at the last minute.
Just going by Phil Gould's language over the last few weeks it seems as though they are still focusing on just grabbing the flavour of the month players and hoping it works out when they need to be picking solid players to build a real team with over a number of years if they want to beat Qld.
Price yes (on the bench)
Assuming he wouldn't be injured why would he be on the bench? Also Maguire is a possibility for the Qld side, there is no way NSW wouldn't pick him if they could.
Assuming he wouldn't be injured why would he be on the bench? Also Maguire is a possibility for the Qld side, there is no way NSW wouldn't pick him if they could.
Exactly.
It's touch and go whether Maguire and Civoniceva make the QLD side. They would both walk into the NSW side. As would Tate, Tonga, Cherry-Evans, Prince and Taylor.
If fpot thinks Taylor will make the QLD side (totally reasonable, I just grabbed someone elses nominal QLD side) then whoever he slots in for would make the NSW side.
With Gidley injured, I'd imagine they'd love to pick Berrigan as their utility too
I thought NSW were quite good last year, but the thing is the QLD is IMMORTAL.
It was arguably the greatest team to ever take a field.
Gidley is a big loss because he can play anywhere.
I think hes a big talker on the field too directing players.
I really think they should pick Ennis and Carney.
I dont know about the half back.
I dont know that Pearce is playing that well.
Maybe they should go with Ben Hornby ?(st george)
They might pick a 2nd 5/8, if Hayne plays he could move there but I really dont know that hes fit enough. You cant go into Origin half fit because the game is played a lot faster than A grade.
I dont think Civil Service will play.
time to bring in fresh meat.
Yeah I like that NSW team. I would prefer Mullen over Pearce but maybe the selectors and people actually involved in the game know something about him the public don't because he has been in 5 origin games in a row now and hasn't really produced much at that level.
Over the past few years Hayne has produced some real quality at origin level. I am glad he is in the side but his spot should be conditional to how he plays in game 1. If he plays shit then maybe bring in another Morris brother or something.
Brett Stewart has been playing very well lately. Safe hands as well
pearce and carney combo went to the grand final with an average team.
Hayne on the wing is good imo. Cunt is always uninterested so at least if he is emo he is not in a really important position. If he feels like turning up he can just inject himself whenever.
Same with jennings... depends if he decides to turn up.
Yeah the Carney Pearce combo will hopefully come good for the blues. Hard when you are playing a team with at least four potential hall of famers in it, though.
Can't believe there is no Tariq Sims in the NSW side.
Arguments about who they should have picked in the halves or how many of the at least half-dozen fullbacks NSW could have picked aside, I thought Tariq Sims was a shoe in from his City/Country performance and work for the Cowboys.
1. Billy Slater 2. Darius Boyd
3. Greg Inglis 4. Justin Hodges
5. Brent Tate
6. Johnathan Thurston 7. Cooper Cronk
8. Matthew Scott
9. Cameron Smith (captain)
10. Petero Civoniceva
11. Nate Myles
12. Sam Thaiday 13. Ashley Harrison
14. Matt Gillett
15. David Taylor 16. Ben Hannant
17. David Shillington
18. Daly Cherry-Evans
19. Dane Nielsen
Cameron Smith is probably the best #9 of all time. He is just so dangerous and so consistent. Along with Billy Slater, Greg Inglis and Jonathon Thurston QLD have four definite all-time greats playing for them. Until a couple more retirements QLD will be a dominant team and NSW will have to play really well to win a game let alone a series. In 15 years people will look back on this QLD team (especially in the years Darren 'Fucking' Lockyer was also in it) and just marvel at how fucking good it was. It kind of reminds me of the Australian cricket team of the late ninties up till Warne and McGrath's retirement - so good that they almost kill the game because no-one can beat it. Eventually things will normalise and we will have our ultra-close and ultra-competitive SoO series back. Bit hard on us poor Blues supporters, though :(
edit: Carney has real potential imo to be better than Cooper Cronk and maybe be approaching Thurston levels of good. I am really looking forward to seeing him in Origin this year.
Cameron Smith is probably the best #9 of all time. He is just so dangerous and so consistent. Along with Billy Slater, Greg Inglis and Jonathon Thurston QLD have four definite all-time greats playing for them. Until a couple more retirements QLD will be a dominant team and NSW will have to play really well to win a game let alone a series. In 15 years people will look back on this QLD team (especially in the years Darren 'Fucking' Lockyer was also in it) and just marvel at how fucking good it was. It kind of reminds me of the Australian cricket team of the late ninties up till Warne and McGrath's retirement - so good that they almost kill the game because no-one can beat it. Eventually things will normalise and we will have our ultra-close and ultra-competitive SoO series back. Bit hard on us poor Blues supporters, though :(
edit: Carney has real potential imo to be better than Cooper Cronk and maybe be approaching Thurston levels of good. I am really looking forward to seeing him in Origin this year.
Thurston looses his shit when things aren't going well.
So does Tate.
That is the concern for me.
I figure the Melbourne trio (edit) will get the Qld'ers through it if that happens.
I suggested he will have to step up as the number 1.
NSW have had a lot of 'potential' halves in the recent past. None of which have made it their own.
I can't remember a NSW half or 5/8 who have had a 'good' game in the last few origins.
They seem to go missing and it tends to be a game of:
Halves QLD +1
Forwards battle QLD +0.5
Outside backs QLD +1.5
Carney hasnt played Origin yet.
He is the guy to watch, he is in some awesome form and hes played with pearce before at the Roosters so the connection is there.
Its time for Pearce to step up, he needs to bring it.
i think the Cronk/ Thurston connection might be suspect if NSW can keep running at them. Make them do a lot of tackles.
Lockyer was ice cool under pressure I think QLD will miss that.
faceman, there is one thing you need to know about this game,
the whole qld squad was in the aitport last week, and i shook their hands, now as a blue supporter i did this knowing I wasn't feeling well, (flu, proper good ole put you in bed with a fever flu), so we will see if that will help
(also got the hold the shield something not many new south welshmen can say)
pearce is shit, but carney is good so as long as pearce gets the ball less than carney they'll probably say pearce has had a good game
cronk has been in the setup for a number of years as the backup half and utility back/hooker, the halves partnership won't be as crisp as thurston/lockyer, but don't forget we won in 2008 with a halves combination of karmichael hunt/prince/thurston across the series - hunt wasn't even a 5/8, and prince and thurston had less of a combination than cronk/thurston do at this level
NSW make the halves do heaps of tackles every origin, just like we run props at their halves, it isn't exactly an unusual tactic
The 2007-2010 Blues were terrible though. They have gradually been improving since 2010 and this year (bar the lack of Josh Dugan WHYYYY) I think we have a good team. Not a great team like QLD have but one that is capable of maybe stealing a win in Melbourne and winning at home. Hopefully it doesn't go to a decider at Suncorp that will be hairy. So pumped for the game tonight.
Problem with NSW is that they keep changing each year which doesn't help. Will be interesting this year, if Queensland win again I think people are going to start getting bored somewhat, though we shall see.
Im pretty sure the last try was valid since Farah made a play at the ball using his foot and then lost posession of it instantly. How is that a knock on?
Was such a good game. If QLD had of won by 2 I would have humbly taken my hat off to them but nhhhhhhhhh fuck. Big time pressure for the next match I am gonna paint my whole face.
lol sif Farah played at it newb his foot was just there and Inglis grounded the ball into it and he lost it.
i don't know about that try, it is an odd one because i've never quite seen anything like that before. He played at it, GI didn't drop it... Fuck i don't know
very guttsy win regardless, felt like nsw had momentum for most of the game yet only 2 tries from 2 kicks
fuck how much better was farrah tonight than any game we have pretty much ever seen from ennis?
Im pretty sure the last try was valid since Farah made a play at the ball using his foot and then lost posession of it instantly. How is that a knock on?
I'm with him. played at by Farrah, regained by Inglis, awesome try
Yeah, Farrah definitely played at it, it's obvious because if he wasn't playing at it with his foot, he would have been diving at GI, duh. That said, I was surprised at the call.
A good game, NSW are getting closer, but they need to put in a REALLY good game next time, before QLD have a few games under their belt without locky and they really start to gel.
I just don't understand why they took Farah off and didn't give Tamou more minutes. I half have a feeling Ricky Stuart thinks he can set the interchanges before the game and not based on performance. Mitchell Pierce once again fails to perform, he doesn't have the excuse of nerves or inexperience that Carney does. Akuila had a mixed bag with great attack along with bad defence that gave away 2 tries, don't think Qld can rely on that next game.
Can't believe Tate's performance, he has had some blinder Origin games but I didn't think he still had it in him. Qld need younger blood in their forward pack, time for Petro or Miles to step down and make way for Josh Maguire.
If QLD had of won by 2 I would have humbly taken my hat off to them but nhhhhhhhhh fuck. Big time pressure for the next match I am gonna paint my whole face.
we would have won by 2 anyway even without the try of the year.
oh and carney was shit, i expected better from him
Yeah it's just sad that we got a bad try on our record. Blues foot was going to pass through that way anyway whether they could of stopped it or not. Ah well, NSW did quite well this match, they had some good momentum.
that second try to boyd was a fucking classic, JT just held that ball long enough and looked at uate and uate steps toward him and bam got you coconut and throws the pass to boyd
I wonder if Carney could play half and Hayne 5/8 ?
No, he's a ball runner, not a ball passer. What part of his game makes you think he should be the guy setting plays and passing into gaps for the runners?
He only looked dangerous when he wasn't around Hodges, he had him pretty well contained but he is definitely an Origin player unlike Pierce. Carney will get better the more he plays but surely Pierce is at his peak by now which just isn't good enough for Origin.
dunno I got it off www.theroar.com.au . I was watching from some shitty stream at work. Sucks 11am state of origin kick off. taking the day off for game 2.
Im pretty sure the last try was valid since Farah made a play at the ball using his foot and then lost posession of it instantly. How is that a knock on?
Only thing i realy disagreed with ll night on bth sides was the one on one hit which was rules over the 180 degrees.
Maybe marginally but not in the context.
nate myles was man of the match, i'm not entirely sure why. ~36 tackles and 11 runs iirc from the channel 9 coverage.
tate had a great game. billy had quite the average game. qld couldn't get out their half, and NSW smashed us in the metres stakes, rolled through us, which our ginormous side was supposed to do to them.
jennings' brain explosion (seriously, they've been hot on the '3rd man in' for years, being in a stoush a la bird/scott is okay, but running in from the sidelines to belt someone is not, it is well known) cost them big time, and for a guy who plays wing, week in week out, uate seriously can't seem to mark his man and actually defend.
hayne looked dangerous every time he had it, carney looked nervous and skittish, but should settle down, pearce did fuck all as usual.
i think ricky screwed his interchange up a bit, buhrer (who is a dud really anyway) barely got any minutes, and neither did williams (although williams hasn't played in months anyway). i think lewis should drop to the bench for the utility role buhrer is there for (that is, if gidley isn't available) and bring watmough into the 2nd row to start the game. Merrin is shit too. NSW would be at SEA without gallen up front, i hate the guy but he is a machine. bird had a good game too, but just can't help himself with niggling/reacting to niggle.
sets up what should be a cracking game in Sydney!
i wouldn't have given inglis' try, but i suppose if you go with the most pedantic, strict application of the rule, it does appear that farah played at it with his foot (which is a big no no these days) as he wasn't really trying to tackle inglis and his foot dislodges it as inglis is simultaneously trying to ground it. i wouldn't have given it, but NSW tears do taste delicious
friend of mine was blind and called me up from the party he was at to rant about QLD paying off refs etc - hilariously kicked a carton that was full of beers and broke his toe while he was on the phone. he's going to be hungover, angry and sore tomorrow, great stuff
Watching games like last nights make me happy i follow union...
But seriously, that try... i don't think he deliberatly played at the ball with his foot, think his foot was just in the right place at the right time... guess the ref saw it different, but either way i don't think it would have mattered...
What I want to know is why Uate wasn't awarded penalty for that clear elbow to the face? I'm a Queensland supporter but the ref was really dirty with choices this game.
MARLINBLADE probably thinks most goals in soccer come from putting their foot at the "right place at the right time" lol
I thought i was watching soccer with the amount of falling down and appealling to the ref that was being done ha ha, especially Paynes effort in the second half, what a douche! Play the ball not the ref, geezus...
yes marlin robbie just sticks his foot out like that everywhere he walks
Actually the more i watch it the more it does look deliberate, even after his foot makes contact and he's moving away, he's still kicking out at the ball, so yep, fuck him, i retract my accidental contact statement and now agree with you pave....
Eorl - you mean when nate myles ankle tapped him as he was stepping the other way and he flew through the air and collided with another player who was coming into tackle him? you seriously think that was a deliberate elbow to the head by cameron smith (i think it was cameron smith)?
There was some douche Blue's supporter (ex player - can't remember who) on tele this morning who was cutting onions over the whole thing. He ended up having a heated argument on the show with Webke, he must feel the fool.....
NSW could have won but made some poor decisions and penalties:
Kick for goal 40+ metres out
Kick for touch and not find it
Missed a conversion
Come in swinging in the fight
Dangerous tackle (origin or not, that should have been a penalty imo)
Anyway, good chance the Blues will get up in game two.
I wouldn't have awarded the Inglis try, but it was a 50/50 call so not worried.
Hayne's punch to Thurstons Jaw was a little sketchy though, dont know how that was missed. Also the coverage skipped straight over it with very little mention.
Queenslands Line Speed was terrible and is why the NSW backs even looked half different. Mal is going to sort them out in the coming weeks for sure. Brent Tate deserved man of the match, and cemented his spot.
Eorl - you mean when nate myles ankle tapped him as he was stepping the other way and he flew through the air and collided with another player who was coming into tackle him? you seriously think that was a deliberate elbow to the head by cameron smith (i think it was cameron smith)?
Yeah, that was fine, just unlucky for Uate. It was Cameron Smith.
Eorl - you mean when nate myles ankle tapped him as he was stepping the other way and he flew through the air and collided with another player who was coming into tackle him? you seriously think that was a deliberate elbow to the head by cameron smith (i think it was cameron smith)?
Not sure if it was that one, let me see if I can find it.
Eorl - you mean when nate myles ankle tapped him as he was stepping the other way and he flew through the air and collided with another player who was coming into tackle him? you seriously think that was a deliberate elbow to the head by cameron smith (i think it was cameron smith)? Not sure if it was that one, let me see if I can find it.
Has to be the one. Nothing Cameron could do. He is probably lucky it was elbow, I reckon his hip would have hurt more.
Can't seem to find it, but it might not have been Uate, I saw a blue get elbowed while in play near middle field. Definitely wasn't that bone crunching one which I initially though the blue had hit his leg but it was luckily his elbow.
yeah, can't be construed as deliberate from smith at all, nothing he can do when uate is flying through the air at him, from memory he may have tucked up a bit to protect himself a little, but no malice or intent there at all.
yow yeh won't be playing football for yonks, and i was glad to see tate have a cracking game, he was solid as hell, i really wish he'd scored that try outside of hayne though, hate that guy, he's a petulant child (and he hit thurston for no reason)
Yeah no idea what Eorl is on about, the only one it could have been was the Smith incident and you can't penalise someone for having their elbow headbutted by the opposing player.
I half wonder if Qld's line speed wasn't deliberate, make the supposed quicker forward pack of NSW do more running. Previous Origin's it had been a clear objective to tire out the other side and beat them in the final 20 minutes but this time it seemed more like they had to tire them out so they could survive the final 20 minutes.
I'd stick with 90% of the NSW team for the next game, not a fan of Pierce but fuck it. I think Buher and Merrin should be gone and Watmough in, he's like a second Gallen. I'd consider Wallace or Mullen for the bench, hopefully that would put a fire under Pierce's ass.
At the time, even if he hadn't regathered I thought it would be a penalty try as I didn't think you could kick at the ball like that out of his hands. I was corrected on that front, apparently you're now allowed to do that.
so in that case, he legitimately kicked it out of his hands and then Inglis placed it down. I can't understand how anyone could suggest that Farah didn't deliberately put his foot there. On the view from behind you can seee him change direction and poiint his toe for that very specific reason.
If you are a neutral why did you post a second-rate QLD team and say it would have no trouble beating NSW when that clearly isn't true?
The ball was knocked back by Slater. Robbie Farah was running towards the original trajectory of the ball when Inglis grabs it. Inglis grabs it and Farah changes his direction in an instinctive attempt to go for the man carrying the ball. In the process of doing this his foot gets in the way of the ball and causing Inglis to knock it on over the line. It's not a try.
What did you think about the decision to award Greg Inglis a try in the 72nd minute?
Greg Ingis had possession of the ball and was trying to ground the ball. Robbie Farah, in desperation to prevent the try, changed his running gait and threw his leg out. In doing so, he dislodged the ball, so therefore it is deemed that he played at the ball. The ball is still live.
It does rebound off Greg Inglis’s forearm after it was dislodged, but he did not play at it, it was a rebound and then he grounded the ball.
For these reasons, I agree with the decision to award a try.
I'm with this guy. ^
The only thing i didnt agree with was the tackle that put the qld on his arse 1 on 1.
Farrah is a bit of loser at Origin.
Isnt that like 5 losses from 6 games.
If you cant beat a team with better players you have to try to put those players off their game, wreck their concentration.
Ennis is better at being a prick.
I cant see NSW winning two games let alone one.
This will become The Magnificent 7 series wins.
Farrah is a bit of loser at Origin.
Isnt that like 5 losses from 6 games.
If you cant beat a team with better players you have to try to put those players off their game, wreck their concentration.
Ennis is better at being a prick.
I cant see NSW winning two games let alone one.
This will become The Magnificent 7 series wins.
Magnificent
i think farrah was one of the better forwards/playmakers in the NSW side.
it looks like he pivots off his left foot and feels the ball hit his right and as he turns to look his foot/leg changes direction with the rest of his body turning to look, and it appears as though he kicked it on purpose.
so unintentional. knock on in goal. no try.
Which is a shame Faceman, because I can see excitement and interest dimming after this origin if Queensland wins again. Why bother watching when we know who the winner is?
I don't think you understand properly Eorl, QLDers will never get sick of winning, and every successive win just makes NSW hate us more, and makes them hungrier for a win. The proof will be a full stadium in sydney next game.
Farrah is a bit of loser at Origin.
Isnt that like 5 losses from 6 games.
If you cant beat a team with better players you have to try to put those players off their game, wreck their concentration.
Ennis is better at being a prick.
I cant see NSW winning two games let alone one.
This will become The Magnificent 7 series wins.
fucking lol, farrah did more for them actually having a chance at winning a game than ennis has contributed the last 3 series combined. you are fucking shit at rugby league faceman if you cant see that
it looks like he pivots off his left foot and feels the ball hit his right and as he turns to look his foot/leg changes direction with the rest of his body turning to look, and it appears as though he kicked it on purpose.
so unintentional. knock on in goal. no try.
yes he felt the ball on his foot and as he looks he changes direction lol what
the ball was there to be kicked it was a natural instict
Fuck me faceman. Farah was one of the best on field. Maybe blame dead shit jennings (WHO PLAYS NSW CUP) for punching tate in the head while he was in a scuffle with someone else.
yes he felt the ball on his foot and as he looks he changes direction lol what
because the ball was behind when his foot made contact. lol what nothing.
the ball was there to be kicked it was a natural instict
the ball wasnt there to be kicked. again, it was behind him when he made contact with it. i dont think farrah had any idea that inglis had the ball in his hands until he (inglis) picked it up again after the KNOCK ON.
If you are a neutral why did you post a second-rate QLD team and say it would have no trouble beating NSW when that clearly isn't true?
I'm sorry?
Does commenting on how bad NSW currently are, suddenly make me a Queenslander?
I was hoping NSW would win, because I don't really follow either team, its getting boring with QLD winning every year. To the point where I didn't even watch it last season.
I watched this game, purely because it was midly interesting as NSW at least had a decent 5/8 for a change. I felt it was clearly a try, and it appears anyone else without any bias feels the same.
yeah the problem with QLD winning every year is that NSW supporters will lose interest.
Just watching Benji last night i detected some disappointment that he will never play Origin. I want to see the best players in Origin.
Kiwi players should be allowed to play.
This would also discourage possible Kiwi players from choosing to play for Australia so they could play Origin.
I cant see NSW winning a series in the next few years, most of the QLDs are still going to be there 5 years from now. Origin was a concept but it shouldnt remain etched in stone, it was taking a 'punt' at the time to add more excitement to one-sided interstate clashes, its time for more tinkering.
Let Kiwis play for NSW. 0.o?
the ball wasnt there to be kicked. again, it was behind him when he made contact with it. i dont think farrah had any idea that inglis had the ball in his hands until he (inglis) picked it up again after the KNOCK ON.
i just watched it again, it is so fucking obvious he sticks his foot out at the ball
i think farrah was one of the better forwards/playmakers in the NSW side.
He out performed Cronk IMO.
NSW did very well to constrict our backs.
It was definitely better NSW, probably the best I have seen in the last 6 years. The lack of ball Slater got amazed me, he was shutdown nearly every-time.
Yeah I'm with spidz. I didn't even watch the last game because it's just starting to get really boring. I didn't even send my NSW's supporting mate a sledging SMS when QLD scored or even brought it up at work, that's how uninteresting the series is becoming. That and it's being played in MLB like WTFBBQ.
I hate to say it because I support QLD but for the interest of the game NSW really need to start winning again. It's not a lot fun or excitement watching one sided game year after year.
I think the biggest entertainment value used to be Phil Gould getting his hopes up and slowly having them crushed during the series while he was in the commentary box.
I support NSW and Parramatta. To be honest a win would be, well fucking miraculous at this point in time.
Admittedly I'm not a footy fanatic, but I think anyone who loses interest when their team isn't winning kinda misses the point. Every team goes through slumps and being a supporter means backing your team no matter what. State of Origin isn't going anywhere, it's an institution.
For those that are interested, I proofread this when I worked for UQP and it's worth a read, especially if you are interested in the history of football:
I suppose we can wait for game 3 to actually occur before we use facey's thread (lol)
I am pretty scared about this next match. If NSW lose not only will it be a home loss but 7 fucking series lost in a row. I won't even fucking watch the third game if it's a dead rubber >:(
I dont think NSW played too badly and they have a good team.
QLD was kind of sluggish but at certain points in the game were just "Breathtaking"
Carney and Pearce were pretty flat in the first game.
These two have to get stuck in and Pearce needs to stop doing so many bombs.
The Hayne Plane has to be given more ball.
I really think Carney at half and Hayne at 5/8th could do some damage.
best thing that could happen to NSw would be an early Pearce injury.
If NSW lose I see a very large loss in views for next years game. That's a loss of 7 games in a row if this happens, and I'm not sure even the most die-hard fans are willing to watch in hopes of a win.
Yeah I've tipped NSW, it's their best chance to win and it gives me that nice cushion of "at least I got my tips right" if we lose.
There were two fatal flaws last game for NSW, one was the interchange brain fart by Ricky Stewart of taking off players that had an impact simply because his predetermined schedule said so and the other was Uate on defence.
Of course Carney having a nervous start and Pearce doing his usual shitty Origin play didn't help but I think if Uate hadn't let in 2 tries and the only ball player with his head on straight hadn't been taken off the field the Blues could have had a real upset last match.
I reckon they would have corrected those mistakes for game 2 so now it will be a much better game and with a sell out crowd, Qld are not going to have a comfortable time on the field.
Yeah blues coach did not sound confident at all, was kind of disheartening. Didn't know who the singer was until my girlfriend pointed out it was Seal.
Jennings knocked it out but it must have been ruled a knock on by Tate. Otherwise why do NSW get a 20 restart?
Yeah no idea what they were thinking on that. How can you call a knock on when the ball comes flying out like that, it was obviously knocked out by Jennings and should have been a drop kick by NSW.
Have to admit NSW were the better team, QLD just too many errors.
Sin bin hurt bad.
Was a good game.
NSW forwards had big games,
Carney was more involved but I think pearce isnt up to it.
Wallace should get a game but they will not change a winning team.
QLD were still good in sections, the kicking game of QLD is so much superior than the NSW team. Watching it live and you'll see how obvious it is. Smith gets such nice kicks out into open field. NSW kicking game really needs to improve!
So the big decider tomorrow. Is it the biggest game of Origin ever since last year's decider? I'd say... yes.
I really feel NSW have a chance this game. Uate is gone and he was a massive liability for the side. I think he had a slippery butter-coated hand in every QLD try. Looking forward to Carney improving again this match and having a blinder on QLD soil.
What an awesome month. An Origin decider _and_ The Dark Knight Rises.
That's not the question Eorl, it's whether they lose will it stay the same.
Keeping a winning side is a no brainer but for the last 6 years NSW have had a tendency to dismantle teams and show no faith in their players every time they don't magically beat a team that has been playing together for a while.
Im actually concerned about this game.
Inglis could pull off a MotM performance or it could be a spectacular failure.
I think NSW losing Glen Stewart is a big plus for the QLD forwards.
NSW have been better in the last two games and its time for Civil Service and Scott to have monster games.
Not happy about 7 Broncos in the side.
It smacks of desperation.
A fast track will likely help QLD so i think QLD will win but they do look vulnerable against a NSW side that is rapidly closing the gap. Lets hope nobody gets marched.
I think moving Inglis to fullback is the right move. Given that Slater got smashed up last game NSW would target Bowen the same way if he was there. At least Inglis, while not the most experienced fullback doing the rounds, has some size and can smash back.
Neilson is a weak link in the centres for QLD. Josh Morris will be more free to attack now that he doesn't have to worry about defending against Inglis.
Yep, I've called bullshit on it. When challenged he said the source was from the comments section of Foxsports.com.au and that 'apparently everyone down south knows'.
QLD have what seems to be 20 players around the person picking up the ball for NSW and they pin us on our own line. QLD kicking game is far superior is it's showing.
they were all going on about that hodgo try, every other week they refer tries for obstructions and unless someone is put on their ass or made contact with it is generally awarded.
all of a sudden we're carrying about shephards and scrutinising the rules and shit
Given that Slater got smashed up last game NSW would target Bowen the same way if he was there. At least Inglis, while not the most experienced fullback doing the rounds, has some size and can smash back.
You heard it here first.
Sheppard. Lazy NSW defence trying to milk a penalty. just saying. end rant
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But seriously, whoever that NSW dude was deserves an uppercut for that.
How is Cronk ?
had a quiet Series really then delivers a screamer when it was required.
He and Thurston will be much better next year.
Taylor will be in next year + Slater.
This was NSW' best chance i think.
Ten Series in a row ?
That was Origin #96
Dave Taylor informs NSW that they are now 1 point behind after the Cronk field goal.
Yeah the Blues came bloody close to winning the series this year, all credit to them. The big question for next year is how much the selectors will fiddle with the team again.
NSW would be devastating if they had an accurate kicking game.
Last nights game was excellent. Those poor NSW players looked totally gutted at the end of that match, you can't help but feel a bit sorry for them. Thankfully we had that home-ground advantage, I suspect if the game was played in NSW the result would have been NSW winning.
nah beau scott is a dud, luke lewis should have started fo shizzle
even cryan hoffman is better than beau scott, scott still wets his pants when inglis runs at him after he was monstered by GI playing centre in 2010. NSW really missed glenn stewart.
they came so close they'll definitely persevere with pearce (despite his abysmal record) and carney got better as the series went on, although he was found wanting a lot too. without farah having such a mammoth series (was annoyed that it was his fumble that finished it for them, he had a great series and killed off ennis' hopes for origin in the near future (barring injury)) and bird/gallen playing typically strong (grubby, but strong) NSW would have struggled for direction as there wasn't much coming from the halves.
nsw problem is they don't have anyone in the team to really look up to, including the coach.
Yeah, that's a good point.
I thought Tate was the best player over the series for QLD (probably not what Yow Yeh was hoping) I would have thought Tate was passed his prime and was surprised at his selection (didn't he go really shit for NZW?) but he sure showed up a few critics. Awesome speed considering his injury list - how fast did he take off and support Thurston in Thurston's big break... he made Thurston look like he was standing still.
Thurston obviously had a good game last night but was fairly average in the first two games.
It's good Parker got selected this year and he made a good go if it.
Inglis was great at fullback and is what QLD needed back there, a bit of size and power.
Speaking of short people, I was surprised at how short Mal was when on the field next to his players. I remember him being 10 foot tall when he used to play but he's shorter than Brent Tate.
Inglis was good, although I reckon that NSW try off the short kick I bet slater would have been there.
NSW needs to replace pierce, he's shit. You could tell NSW got better when farrah was kicking for a while.
Lewis is a machine, he should be there 80mins.
I also loved during the end presentation ray was thanking paul gallen for coming and playing well, and he was standing alone, away from the team, with the most dejected look on his face. I lol'd hard at that.
I have, but in the end, it doesnt really matter what i, or Lewis think, or anyone else for that matter. The try was awarded and QLD win the series for the 7th year in a row.
They are probably the greatest QLD team ever and one to which we may never see again. Congratulations to them..
QLD should have gone for 6 points instead of those penalties.
I dont think that was a 21-20 game.
QLD should have been further ahead than that.
I cant believe they didnt get a penalty after that Inglis effort and the play-the-ball. I dont think Archer awarded it because of the score. Thats pretty poor if true.
Then there was the rediculous knock-on against Matt Scott that went backwards.
wtf happened there ? gave the Blues and extra set.
The footy show last week Fatty was saying NSW had to score more than 20 to beat QLD.
Nice call Fatman.
I cant believe they didnt get a penalty after that Inglis effort and the play-the-ball. I dont think Archer awarded it because of the score. Thats pretty poor if true.
IMO none of the refs had the balls to call the penalty there as it is normally something that is a sin binning offense and all three of the NSW players were equally guilty.
That knock on call was appalling but it was funny how only Wally commented on it, the rest of the commentary team were also silent during the G.I. incident. It's part of the game though, it's frustrating that the bad calls always seem to favour the other team but it's always a matter of perspective.
I cant believe they didnt get a penalty after that Inglis effort and the play-the-ball. I dont think Archer awarded it because of the score. Thats pretty poor if true. Then there was the rediculous knock-on against Matt Scott that went backwards.
This! Like wtf and why has no one even dared mention it in the media. Instead they harp on about the hodges try.
This! Like wtf and why has no one even dared mention it in the media. Instead they harp on about the hodges try.
I found it funny Gould and Sterlo was dead set certain it was an obstruction. Every other week in the local league they are advocates of 'you can't just disappear'
I would love to know how anyone that was 'obstructed' was going to get near hodges.
Wally makes some good points. He never said it was a penalty. His only comment in-commentary was 'if it was Qld we would be saying no try'
I think the right decision was made. Whether one side or another thought it was a try or not. The little 'bump' was that far off the ball. Even Farah who was closer to the player had no chance of getting close. Hence why he threw his arms up instead of chasing the man with the ball.
QLD should have gone for 6 points instead of those penalties. I dont think that was a 21-20 game. QLD should have been further ahead than that. ...
This.
Also, when will Rugby League do away with Scrums... and what the fuck is with the retarded 'knock on' rules these days?
If a player strikes the ball, and it lands BEHIND where he struck it AND is moving backwards (ie toward the goal area said team is 'defending') SURELY that's Knocked BACKWARDS...
Was a good game to watch, and interesting listening to how vocal the blues supporters were (esp. considering the ocean of Maroon in the stadium).
Inglis was good, although I reckon that NSW try off the short kick I bet slater would have been there
yep the only thing that showed inglis isnt the fullback that billy slater is, slater would have been at the ball and in all likely it wouldnt have been a try
instead if you look at the footage from the side he is under the posts and had no idea what was going on. apart from that he was great, still prefer slater for his speed and awareness though
myles deserved man of the series without a doubt, he was unreal all 3 games and pretty much ran himself to a standstill all 3 games. and he has this uncanny skill of getting under greg birds skin, he is damn good at it and he isnt anywhere near as blatant about it like your gallens/birds who just take it to stupid levels
i am all for a relaxation of the rules for that kind of thing a bit, but penalising nsw for the first time in the 60th minute for it was a fucking joke, and the tackle they were penalised for was probably one of the most normal tackles all night
gallen and bird both deserved exactly what they got from tate
and that fucking cry baby gallen complaining later in the game that tate hit him, FUCKGIN REALLY? after jamming your elbow into his eye? what the fuck do you expect. the way he carries on as the fucking captain is a fucking joke and it is a fucking joke he is allowed to continue doing it - my previous comment stands they have no one to look up to in that team and it goes right back to that crying little baby ricky stuart.
I googled his name, didn't recognise a picture and didn't understand the results, checked in the wiki page and it all became clear. A surfer. A very good, very accomplished surfer. Totally out of anything i care about :P
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