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Sentry
Newcastle, New South Wales
1 posts
As far as i'm concerned Valve is bringing a new Counter-Strike (CS: GO (Counter-Strike: Global Offensive)) to stores early this year.
I am curious to know if Valve will be able to keep up with the expectation of releasing another multiplayer hit :-

"For the past 12 years, it has continued to be one of the most-played games in the world, headline competitive gaming tournaments and selling over 25 million units worldwide across the franchise. CS: GO promises to expand on CS' award-winning gameplay and deliver it to gamers on the PC as well as the next-gen consoles and the Mac."

For example Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 was a massive multiplayer hit, the pressure that was put on the developers of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 to make a game that was more so a multiplayer hit. Correct me if that makes little sense.

Any thoughts on the matter people?
10:26pm 08/02/12 Permalink
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Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
5184 posts
It will probably have a wide following, and I'm looking forward to a more updated version of models, physics, maps and official modes.
10:56pm 08/02/12 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
8894 posts
I think Valve have pretty much indicated that GO isn't "counter-strike 2" yet.
It's really just a console friendly CS so they can work out what to deliver in a CS2.
11:00pm 08/02/12 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
12261 posts

It will probably have a wide following, and I'm looking forward to a more updated version of models, physics, maps and official modes.


However all maps anything more then vaguly interesting will be ignored. de_dust2 and cs_office will be the only maps played, probably unchanged in the slightest, for the next 12 years.
11:30pm 08/02/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14492 posts
it will probably have the same success as source. it will be hard for it to reach the heights of 1.6
11:38pm 08/02/12 Permalink
HyperJ
Brisbane, Queensland
406 posts
it will probably have the same success as source. it will be hard for it to reach the heights of 1.6

I would guess that way more people are playing games compared with then 1.6 was played and will easily top the "heights" of 1.6
11:48pm 08/02/12 Permalink
ctd
UK
9793 posts
Will buy. Be better than 99% of the shit that gets released each year
11:48pm 08/02/12 Permalink
bepatient
Melbourne, Victoria
847 posts
For a few years I have said take CounterStrike:Source - release a HD texture pack and work on the netcode a little and I am sold. Everything else about it just works.

I am hoping that I get exactly that.
12:09am 09/02/12 Permalink
scuzzy
Brisbane, Queensland
15148 posts
I'm guessing it will just splinter the community like all these kinds of release do, you'll still get your hardcore purists playing ye olde counterstrike at any rate.
12:36am 09/02/12 Permalink
Kimbo
Melbourne, Victoria
454 posts
Hoping Counter Strike : GO will be an improvement on the existing one shot mouse clicking game play. If anything of the success of Team Fortress 2 and its daily expectations of 33,000 to 44,000 players
(see: http://store.steampowered.com/stats/?snr=1_4_4__10)

Yes Robin Walker and the Hat Fortress development was kind of interesting and some of the ideas in CS:GO are also interesting things such as:

http://counterstrike.wikia.com/wiki/Decoy_grenade - for the people that like to listen for gun shots or foot steps.
http://counterstrike.wikia.com/wiki/Molotov_cocktail - To stop people from rushing to the central conflict area or defensively when people are trying to handle clutch manuvers.
http://counterstrike.wikia.com/wiki/Zeus_x27 - or this thing.

Finally as much as I'd like to agree that at one point jumping in certain ways to exploit engine physics and make you go faster, quick switching with the AWP to make the reload animation play faster were aspects that were part of the "game play mechanic" gamers have since observed that things have gone a bit more complex into building better coop shooters (L4D) (maybe L4D2 and Killing Floor -- not Valve but it is still fun) / better team tactical game play (TF2). So game play mechanics these days tends to have a few edges on it. But not enough to blunt it and make game play for one kind of group that ends up playing a game into the ground, but not encouraging new people to join in.

I do agree that Counter Strike is a team tactical game play shooter and I have seen amazing competition levels where people can one shot the opposition. But as for an air of team positioning, tactics, cover and light-of-sight use. I could be here all night arguing it. Never less I hope CS:GO doesn't turn into "Hat Fortress." Still developers need to make money off the original point-of-sale and Valve seems to have this interesting habit of on-going developments in game distribution and game play mechanics.

So aesthetic free-to-play might warrant eventual turns toward such a product as in "If we want to keep this game up to date and developed, we need some other form of funding from the original point of sale." and hence Gabe Newell and his comment about "Gaming Piracy is a service problem." and the other on-going forestalling event of a gamer's attention span cycle in development (i.e losing interest to new products.) Now gaming is a persistent and constant; Serviceability and utility.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114391-Valves-Gabe-Newell-Says-Piracy-Is-a-Service-Problem

So most things seem positive that Valve are also going the professional gaming route as well. Just as Starcraft 2 has gone in terms of competition. A recent game I was playing called Tribes Ascend is eventually going to implement this.


MiscellaneousEdit
Competitive and Casual modes
New Arsenal game mode, based on the popular Gun Game mod for Counter-Strike: Source. It has two variations; Arsenal: Demolition and Arsenal: Arms Race.
New factions and changes to classic ones
Matchmaking system based on skill
Support for dedicated servers
Leaderboards
The money system has been reworked to better accommodate the weapon and equipment changes.
Model size as well as hitboxes slightly reduced.
Cross-platform multiplayer between Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X and PlayStation 3 players.
The hand models for Counter-Terrorists and Terrorists have been graphically updated and look different for each team.
The HUD, crosshair and buy VGUI has been updated.
The PlayStation 3 version supports the DualShock 3 controller, PlayStation Move or a USB keyboard/mouse, while the Xbox 360 version is limited to a controller.

http://counterstrike.wikia.com/wiki/Counter-Strike:_Global_Offensive

Cross-form play still looks promising though.
Inclusion of everyone's favourite gun-game mode.

As for whether PC versus XBOX players and keyboard versus gampad issue:
http://xim3.com/ - The cross platform idea looks very very interesting and promising, well now anyway.

Ciao!
12:49am 09/02/12 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
12566 posts

Cross-platform multiplayer between Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X and PlayStation 3 players.

:-/

How did xbox 360 manage to get left off this list?
01:14am 09/02/12 Permalink
Kimbo
Melbourne, Victoria
455 posts
:-/

How did xbox 360 manage to get left off this list?


Maybe with Windows 8
http://www.winrumors.com/microsoft-preparing-a-new-xbox-model-for-2012-designed-for-windows-8/


Microsoft is expected to deliver an updated dashboard and Xbox 360 hardware to make the console compatible with Windows 8. “I think the rumors are based upon leaks about modifying the current Xbox 360 to allow it to operate Windows 8,” said Pachter. “I fully expect a new model of Xbox 360 by holiday 2012, but don’t think we see a new console altogether from Microsoft until 2014.” Several references to the Xbox 360 were discovered in early builds of the Windows 8 kernel. Microsoft revealed at BUILD that the company plans to include Xbox LIVE in Windows 8. The support will allow Xbox LIVE users to play against Windows 8 users in multiplayer games. Async multiplayer will allow Windows PCs, Windows Phone and Xbox 360 users to play against each other using multiplayer and matchmaking functionality.
01:19am 09/02/12 Permalink
FraktuRe
Gold Coast, Queensland
4052 posts
It's something to do with MS refusing to let valve run steam stuff on xbox.
01:21am 09/02/12 Permalink
DeadlyDav0
Brisbane, Queensland
1546 posts
I have good faith in valve they will add some interesting new additions to CS with this version. I like the smaller teams too, 5v5 IIRC. Hate being the first dead in a full game of standard CS.
03:14am 09/02/12 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
19344 posts
However all maps anything more then vaguly interesting will be ignored. de_dust2 and cs_office will be the only maps played, probably unchanged in the slightest, for the next 12 years.

This is why I stopped playing CS (among other things)
03:45am 09/02/12 Permalink
Sc00bs
Brisbane, Queensland
8603 posts
if they dont have dust2 or office it will b win, office 2 is probably the gayest map in the world now and thats all that is on every single fuckin server
10:50am 09/02/12 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
8898 posts
Clearly from http://counterstrike.wikia.com most of the screenshots of this game are dust/dust2
10:59am 09/02/12 Permalink
Sc00bs
Brisbane, Queensland
8605 posts
The Zeus x27, more commonly referred to as the taser, is a piece of equipment that will be featured in the upcoming Counter-Strike: Global Offensive. It can only be shot once before being automatically dropped, but is capable of killing an enemy in one hit.


nooo, i can see this being as annoying as the shield all over again
11:02am 09/02/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14495 posts
wasn't the awp one hit kill? anyway apparently the taser is really expensive and you have to save for many rounds to buy it.
11:22am 09/02/12 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
8900 posts
Taser doesn't sound worth it at all? Maybe they'll nerf the other guns so you can't get instakilled with deagle/shotty/ak/m4 then it will have some value.
11:29am 09/02/12 Permalink
sjaeger172004
8 posts
I will be totally getting it as would love to get back at FPS games :)
06:10pm 15/03/12 Permalink
glynd
Melbourne, Victoria
620 posts
It'll be day 1 and it'll bring me well back into CS
06:13pm 15/03/12 Permalink
Nitro
Gold Coast, Queensland
2171 posts
Source is shit. Yet to play CS:GO but if it feels like source I'm flagging it.
06:28pm 15/03/12 Permalink
parabol
Brisbane, Queensland
6809 posts
It's really just a console friendly CS

This is the bit that people seem to miss.

From the videos it looks like it's less about precision headshots, etc and more about spraying in the general direction of the enemy while you're circle strafing around each other like gumbies.
07:44pm 15/03/12 Permalink
d^
Melbourne, Victoria
847 posts
I'm well into it and eagerly awaiting a beta key. I've also started a community website for the game and hopefully will gain a good following. CS:GO is being tweaked and polished to the point where it will be great for everyone. I cannot wait.
08:25pm 15/03/12 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
19523 posts
nooo, i can see this being as annoying as the shield all over again

I loved the riot shield, they also have one in mw3 that I used to like using until they completely fucked it up & now the enemy sneezes on you and you die.
12:24am 16/03/12 Permalink
Basket
Gold Coast, Queensland
744 posts
From the videos it looks like it's less about precision headshots, etc and more about spraying in the general direction of the enemy while you're circle strafing around each other like gumbies.


They already made a cs with terrible hitscan, It was called "css"

07:29am 16/03/12 Permalink
d^
Melbourne, Victoria
852 posts
FYI cross-platform play got the axe. Meaning PC will be far superior to the console peasants.
12:32pm 16/03/12 Permalink
Sc00bs
Brisbane, Queensland
8742 posts
^ thank fuck =)

they still need to update the models a hell of a lot since all the beta videos i have seen, They are pathetically under detailed
12:37pm 16/03/12 Permalink
Outlaw
Gold Coast, Queensland
1702 posts
12:42pm 16/03/12 Permalink
tashap007
Mackay, Queensland
27 posts
I applied for the beta on steam. But can not wait to play this at the local lan nights. be great.
06:31pm 18/03/12 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
12797 posts
for that to happen they would have to release a dedicated_server.exe, we know that is very unlikely because they could end up making CS go on even longer.
There is a damn good reason why tonnes of people still play CS, because it's awesome and because the servers are still massively deployed and easy to setup.
this is obviously terrible for business because you want to sell the updated product every year or 2
06:51pm 18/03/12 Permalink
Pharcyde
Kilos
Brisbane, Queensland
5066 posts
I can't wait to talk about hitboxes and netcode again.
08:00pm 18/03/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14713 posts
fucking lol @ that vid
08:13pm 18/03/12 Permalink
Basket
Gold Coast, Queensland
748 posts
I would guess that way more people are playing games compared with then 1.6 was played and will easily top the "heights" of 1.6


Also no, Css never touched 1.6 on the competitive side. 1.6 is still being played in world tournaments each year for what 500k prize money? Not sure of any other FPS game that could still have that large of a competitive following after what 12-13 years after release lol...
10:31pm 18/03/12 Permalink
d^
Melbourne, Victoria
907 posts
Hi guys,

After a long amount of work it gives me pleasure to introduce the new CS:GO Weapons List. Now you can find out all the information about your favorite Counter-Strike: Global Offensive weapons and gear and view screenshots of the weapons and gear from the Beta.

http://csgoreplays.com/index.php/89-cs-go-weapons-list

Let me know what you think and what you would like to see in the future.
10:00pm 22/04/12 Permalink
Jim
UK
12822 posts
it sat there loading for ages so I closed it :/
10:28pm 22/04/12 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
20510 posts
Remember when people actually thought Quake 3 was a better game to use in competitions than CS? lol
10:38pm 22/04/12 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
958 posts
fucking lol @ that vid


Yeah, I watched it, and thought that 'Maglio's roccochet is what killed the other guy... but it isn't...

so is the video funny because it's a 'strats' vid that failed horribly?

coz if it's not that.... then I really don't get it...
10:41pm 22/04/12 Permalink
JakeG
Thailand
1082 posts
It's funny cos the guy infront just started calling a strat, got awp headshotted and his microphone cut out right?
10:51pm 22/04/12 Permalink
d^
Melbourne, Victoria
908 posts
it sat there loading for ages so I closed it :/


Really? Shiiiiiiiiit, will have to see what I can do.
10:57pm 22/04/12 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
6347 posts
I believe this to be of a better quality "funny" video.

10:58pm 22/04/12 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
19764 posts
Yeah, I watched it, and thought that 'Maglio's roccochet is what killed the other guy... but it isn't...

so is the video funny because it's a 'strats' vid that failed horribly?

coz if it's not that.... then I really don't get it...

I don't really get why it's funny either. Dude runs out, gets awped in a spot well known for being a stupid spot to rush to because the CT's can get there first (and at least one always does).
11:51pm 22/04/12 Permalink
DeadlyDav0
Brisbane, Queensland
2063 posts
Read OP before i realised it was an old thread. lol @ MW2 MP success. OP must be a console gamer as it caused ass sorts of rage on PC and as far as im concerned, was possibly the biggest gaming let down ever for me.
11:54pm 22/04/12 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
19765 posts
Most of that rage came from people fighting over which is better, modern warfare 2 or battlefield: bad game with hundreds of issues on release company 2 and their paid vs free DLC models.


***I loved bad company 2 but it was literally unplayable on release, constant random crashes and disconnections that took ages to fix, some patches made it worse.
12:17am 23/04/12 Permalink
DeadlyDav0
Brisbane, Queensland
2065 posts
Nah, the rage i meant was the consolification of COD MW2 following COD4+5. No dedicated servers, no mods, no console, shit FOV, shit lag and all the PC exclusive features that you would expect to continue from its predecessors.

Makes me lol than BFBC2 was broken upon release for others because I never had any significant issues apart from random disconnections where as BF3 is pretty much unplayable for me.
08:36am 23/04/12 Permalink
Crusher
Sydney, New South Wales
1099 posts
I look forward to playing this at the next QGL LAN
08:44am 23/04/12 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
12875 posts
10:13am 23/04/12 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
14958 posts
haha
11:38am 23/04/12 Permalink
d^
Melbourne, Victoria
913 posts
Not sure if I'm allowed to post a link as it's a giveaway but on my site I'll be running a competition for 15 CS:GO beta keys.
07:47pm 26/04/12 Permalink
BlueWolf
Brisbane, Queensland
10 posts
I can't find the dota2 thread, but here seems a good choice.

I have 2 dota 2 invites and want to trade them for 2 cs:go invites.

So if you're keen send me a PM.
12:59am 02/05/12 Permalink
d^
Melbourne, Victoria
920 posts
Giveaway is very soon on my site, GOGOGO!
10:52am 02/05/12 Permalink
d^
Melbourne, Victoria
922 posts
Giveaway is now live guys.
03:49pm 02/05/12 Permalink
kr0wb4r
Brisbane, Queensland
1178 posts
PM me your site- i dunno what it is and want a key bad! :D
03:55pm 02/05/12 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
12626 posts
d^ if you have trouble giveing away any of those keys (lol :( ) you can always pm me one.. :D
03:58pm 02/05/12 Permalink
Enska
Sydney, New South Wales
1734 posts
cheers d^ I signed up to your site and entered.
04:00pm 02/05/12 Permalink
glynd
Melbourne, Victoria
661 posts
got my beta key couple of days ago and i'm totally sold on CS:GO. Haven't had this much fun playing counter strike in a long time.
04:07pm 02/05/12 Permalink
d^
Melbourne, Victoria
923 posts
cheers d^ I signed up to your site and entered.


Quick heads up, you need more posts on the forums ;)
06:24pm 02/05/12 Permalink
ctd
UK
9882 posts
I have nothing good to talk about.
06:28pm 02/05/12 Permalink
iTOM
Brisbane, Queensland
1258 posts
oh where can i get a counterstrike invite? ta
07:01pm 02/05/12 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
9545 posts
pretty unimpressed that valve haven't sought me out to try this new cs, I'm the perfect candidate. I was such a fan boy of it, always defended it in internet arguments... I would be good for business.
07:08pm 02/05/12 Permalink
StrangeRash
1351 posts
fuck these games are all shit

are there urban terror servers still running?
07:24pm 02/05/12 Permalink
ctd
UK
9883 posts
More like Urban Terrible LOLOLOL
07:26pm 02/05/12 Permalink
d^
Melbourne, Victoria
924 posts
The game is surprisingly good for a Beta so far. I'm very impressed.
08:00pm 02/05/12 Permalink
Enska
Sydney, New South Wales
1735 posts
cheeky fuck, maybe say so instead of a "sign up for an account to enter now!" ;P
08:16pm 02/05/12 Permalink
Jayman
Brisbane, Queensland
666 posts
So sick of all the War shooters with real weapons and recoil. WTB a kick ass fast paced space shooter in the vein of Quake and Unreal please.
08:56pm 02/05/12 Permalink
d^
Melbourne, Victoria
925 posts
cheeky fuck, maybe say so instead of a "sign up for an account to enter now!" ;P


Hahaha ok I'll edit that post.
09:35pm 02/05/12 Permalink
glynd
Melbourne, Victoria
662 posts
So sick of all the War shooters with real weapons and recoil. WTB a kick ass fast paced space shooter in the vein of Quake and Unreal please.


You tried tribes:ascend yet?
10:35pm 02/05/12 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
5470 posts
I think Valve have pretty much indicated that GO isn't "counter-strike 2" yet.
It's really just a console friendly CS so they can work out what to deliver in a CS2.

If you consider CS:Source was kind of like CS 1.75, then CS:GO will be 1.99 with more recursive 9's added as each successive patch is deployed.
10:55pm 02/05/12 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
11079 posts
will it be available on Wii?

09:40am 03/05/12 Permalink
Mantorok
Brisbane, Queensland
6471 posts
WTB a kick ass fast paced space shooter in the vein of Quake and Unreal please.

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