So this came out today and i'm interested to know if anyone is playing or not. In case you happened to miss most of the news/info about this game it's the sequel to the game Demon's Souls which was a PS3 exclusive and notorious for being brutally hard and in my opinion a true sleeper hit. It's out for both 360 and PS3 and I've spent the past 4 hours with the PS3 version and I've yet to reach the top of the Undead Berg which is the 1st and easiest route you can take at the start.

True to the original this game is already driving me a bit nuts and I've died many... many times to even the simplest of undead knights. But it's somewhat reassuring to know I'm not the only one since while you play you can see the shadows of other players near you, and they don't seem to be fairing much better with many blood stains littering the ground.

Online I havn't tried but from what I know you can, just like the original, go into other people's games and kill them in the form of Black Phantoms. There is also Co-op mode for those extra tough areas which I'm led to believe is a very recommended thing later on in the game. Also I think there is a mode where you can enter another person's game with the intention of making it tougher for them, spawning more monsters with higher HP and stats and such. Sounds like a good thing if you have a high level character.

So far from what I've seen the graphics are quite nice though I've only happened to see 2 castles. The original was like this as well until the last few levels where you went into cathedrals and swamps which I expect will happen here. Gameplay is exactly like the original which is a good thing since you shouldn't fix what isn't broken.

Targeting is a bit weird and to be honest a pain since it requires you to push R3 and there doesn't seem to be any way to switch quickly. You need to push R3 to untarget, move the camera toward the enemy you want to select and then hit R3 yet again and hope it picks the right target. Clumsy, awkward and would of been a better idea to use the game pad left and right buttons to move it around.

Controls are great with the 4 main buttons controlling what items are selected in your item wheel. The L and R triggers are for controlling your items you are holding be it 2 swords, 1 bow and 1 sword or just a shield and your magic casting item. Not had an issue with them so that's a good thing.

Unlike the 1st game however magic no longer uses a magic meter and instead is limited to a set amount of casts. Take for example the Pyromage's Fireball spell. You are limited to only 8 casts at first, and when drained you are forced to use a camp fire which I'll get into in a second. The amount of uses can be increased apparently by obtaining another copy of the spell scroll. I'm still working on that.

Camp fires work as checkpoints in this game with them restoring all your health, magic uses and your health flask you carry with you which lets you regenerate HP a set number of times. Using this feature however respawns every monster you have already killed with the exception of bosses. Good for farming souls which are used to level up at the camp fire or buying items from vendors.

There are 10 character classes to pick from which effects what your starting stats and gear is. That's about it since every class regardless of which picked can be just as effective as any other. No class is limited only to what they know at the beginning so a knight can become just as deadly with spells as a pyro which is great since it lets you build the character you want over what the games forces you too. Oh and also when starting a character you get the choice of a special item. This may be health potions, bombs, a master key which opens any basic lock or even some equipment or story enhancing items.

Finally and perhaps the best thing, is the character progression. Levels in this game are treated a bit differently to other RPGs with there being no real experience bar so to speak. Each enemy you kill gives you souls, which is the currency of the world. You use this as I said to buy things or level up your stats, with each stat point advancing you 1 level. The maximum level you can obtain is 145 I think so you are given quite a bit of room for playing about. Each time you increase a stat the cost of further advancement also grows.

Each time you die all your souls are removed too which is fun. Makes death really be a thing to avoid. If you hurry back to the point of your last death however you can recover all the souls you had. Die again on the way back and you lose this chance as it resets the point of death.

All up I'd say if you love a really challenging game and don't mind seeing the words "You Died" constantly i'd say give it a go. Really worth picking up.

Yeah I picked up my copy last night at will be plowing (lulz hardly) through it today hoping not to fail too much.
I've been playing a fair bit of Demons Souls lately and this sounds pretty true to the first so hopefully I'm up to par :P

Where's the mini?

Well, mini as in I just glanced over a lot of the features intead of going further into detail. Anyway. After beating the tutorial level and you get to the shrine, if you want an easy to use, very good weapon...

Spoiler:
take the pathway up and stick to the left to get to the graveyard. Now the monsters here are quite higher stat wise over you so best bet is to sprint around and pick up all the souls. 1 will be a Winged Spear and there is a 2 handed sword you can't use until quite a bit later. This winged spear only needs 13 strength and 15 agility which is something you can get quite easy. On top of having decent attack power you can have your shield up while you attack so it makes even those Black Knights rather easy


I deleted all my old characters and started a new Thief character who is doing well. Planning on sniping that red dragon to see what he is guarding.

so i grabbed demon souls from the video store before, accidently thought it was this

anyway - holy shit cunt game

don't mind it, big price to pay if you die though. I was ready to throw my controller before

i'm just playing the first bit as a soul after i'm assuming by the size of the guy and his cleaver you were meant to die at the end of the tutorial bit.

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i'm assuming by the size of the guy and his cleaver you were meant to die at the end of the tutorial bit

If you are nimble enough and can dodge well it's possible to kill him and you get a special soul for it which you can either break for a ton of souls or use it to upgrade a weapon. Not easy though.

No you only get 1 shot with him and I think you even get an achievement for it. He appears later on in the game even if you do manage to kill him but you miss the early reward.

There are some videos of people fighting the first boss with only there fists... most videos go for over an hour though. Hilarious to watch.

yeah it sure is cunty

i think i'm going to start again i fucked up the first area after i killed the canturion, instead of getting the fuck out of there while i had been brought back alive for killing him i tried to keep going on and back track along that wall to where i had been killed before to get my souls

died at the end of that wall and was basically left with nothing from the first area apart from the souls i collected in my inventory

man this game is weird, it really brings out the masochist in you

Darksouls is not for casual gamers, casual gamers might find the learning curve too steep for their liking, but as you get used to the unique combat system and gameplay, you will not be able to let your controllers free from your clutching hands

defs think i'm going to find cheap place to get dark souls

not going to pay top dollar for it because there is a good chance i will spit the dummy and not play it again at some point, but i don't mind the first one so far

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Took me about 4-5 times before I actually groked demon's souls. I hated it until that point - then it clicked and was an absolutely amazing experience. Its sounding like dark souls is exactly the same - can't wait to play it!

1 great thing about Dark Souls is the sheer scale of the world you are in. Sure it's not a free roam game but so much of the world is open to you from the get go. Go up the top of the Undead City and look down into the houses and some of the areas below and you can actually walk down there without any load screens. So many places are just so grand in scale and yet you can go mostly anywhere there is something pretty to look at. I've been playing multiple characters but i've racked up about 30 - 40 hours so far across them. Currently playing a Level 35ish bandit with +3 divine winged spear and +2 dragon shield with nazghul armor.

Oh I was exploding in Deeproot Basin and totally shit myself when I came across a colossal 5 headed hydra who started attacking me. Luckly I got out alive and ran into what I thought was a safe tower only to be 1 shot by a mini boss in there.

I think everyones overstating how hard this game is, cleared everything I've found up until Sen's Fortress and haven't had any issues.

Most of the bosses have dropped first try, with the notable exception of the Capra Demon and its super close quarter area. The hydra was probably the easiest of the boss fights so far, looked really imposing tho :)

So far my favourite fight has to be the Great Wolf Sif, very cool looking and pretty tight timing required for dodging. Also nice of him to drop 3 soul levels worth of souls :D

I'd agree with and the Hydra fight is pretty easy after you get close, those first 2 or so minutes of getting close can be a brutal of those water ball AoE attacks connect.

My first boss death have been with the Gaping Dragon and it's hidden mage who 1-shot me from behind since, well, he was hidden.

depends how I die and how many times i have died

the worst is where you get frustrated and make a stupid mistake trying to get back to the boss

i may or may not have cracked the shits a few times

how do you guys deal with dying?

I just get pissed off and start swearing to myself.

I haven't had to deal with getting all the way to a boss and dying and having no option but to start the level again yet.

Wait until you start getting into Sen's Fortress/Anor Londo. The mobs there are not only tough but rather cheap if you ask me. The boss of Sen's Fortress was driving me mad. I was 1 hit away from killing him and got over confident, he picked me up and threw me off the tower like a stone. Twice this happened.

Start to run into those black knights regularly and i'm clearing the floor with them something fierce. +5 magic winged spear for long range poking and just crafted my first real "bosses soul weapon" that being Spoiler:
Queeleags Soul + a +10 curved weapon/katana. I went Curved route and got a brutal sword which has all the best parts of the falchion I used as well as a kick ass fire trail when I swing the weapon. Hits sets things on fire. Something like 80 melee damage and 180 fire damage and it's only +2


Now I got that i'm heading into Londo Ruins to explore since i've been afraid of that area until now. I've explored a few of the covenants and found that the only REAL reason to pick up the gravelord one is to get the miracle spell and greatsword which is insane. I think you only need like 16 str and 10 dex to use it and yet it does like 250 damage, 286 with a +1 on it. But yeah the main draw for that seems to be broken with the "invade other people's worlds" thing not working or something. I'm trying for the darkwrath one right now though.

EDIT - Also how far have you gotten in?

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the worst is where you get frustrated and make a stupid mistake trying to get back to the boss

yep that's the worst

when you get the shits and get slopping making your way back to where you died because you want to get back there ASAP and then die again to some rnadom cunt *throw controller*

DM: as mentioned i was just playing demon's souls on the weekend, i made my way through and killed the phalax. then started on the second section along that wall where the red dragon is, i really wanted to kill the dragon and get it's soul so i got to the first tower and got the wand and went and learned soul arrow but it's pretty tricky and a really long winded process to kill him so i learned and was like whatev and kept going in the tunnel to make it to the second tower where i fucking walked out just too far waiting to time my run with the dragon and got burned by the CUNT this was probably more frustrating than anything. then got killed by the dogs in the tunnel being sloppy and put the game down.

game has to go back today so yeah, going to find a cheap copy of dark souls

Either I just encountered the most epic bug, or the Forest Covenant is the bee's knees. I was thinking about trying to tackle the boss in the forest and was standing at his entrance. I had joined the forest guys in order to see what they were like. I put the ring on, which summons you as a black phantom into any persons world who enters the last area of the forest, and started to load. I had been in their world literally only 1 second before I got a "you defeated" message, got 1 titanite chunk and was given, 700,000 souls!. I fucking shit you not. I guess you are given the souls of the person you kill but jesus christ. Now i'm Lv 80 something with 50 str and hoping I get summoned again so I can boost my endurance above 20.

TL;DR - got 700,000 souls for being in forest covenant and doing nothing.

ps breaking covenants means darkmoon members can invade your game without you receiving a warning

:)

Demons Souls had it, but only in certain places from memory. Dunno about Dark Souls.

i think there is lots about this i still need to learn, specifically about the entering other peoples worlds and shit. All i know is that someone can join my game and fuck me up or help me once i reach a certain level, thought this was random or something.

I really liked the weak point they gave the Sens Fortress boss

Looked very cool when you hit it hard enough :)

anyone playing a sorceror? having big trouble killing shit, wonder if i should have gone melee or something

I'm only at the next area with the skeletons in the graveyard, and its a struggle, i thought you would get souls for killing the skeletons so its making me just want to try and run past them all, which doesn't work so well in this ;) man they chase you down hard.

hahah no wonder! i thought that was the area to continue the game and thought, wow they upped the difficulty alot. i found the staircase out the back and now its *much* easier. still running out of magic quickly, though i have a dagger now to fight in melee.

I started as a Soldier (Warrior in Dark Souls) in Demon's Souls if that helps. Haven't got around to buying Dark Souls yet.

The Gargoyle bosses I actually find easier when solo. If all else fails, go get the white soapstone from the NPC on dragon guarded bridge. Get 1 humanity and reverse the hollowing at a bonfire and then you can summon the NPC at the boss portal. This way you don't have to wait for someone else and the NPCs are actually much MUCH tougher than an ally. All I can say besides that is keep your shield up at all times but back way up when you need to regen your bar. Watch out for his overhead smash though. That thing just destroys your stamina if blocked so it's better to dodge that. If you have a weapon that slashes, aim for the tail when gargoyle #1 start attacking you and you get behind them. Cutting it off removes 2 of the attacks he use, and gives you an item to boot.

My first serious character in this game was a Pyromancer. Fireball is a great help for lots of minibosses. I prefer magic/bows over melee in every fantasy type game anyway though so I might be bias. Getting the Chaos covenant just boosts the pyro power even more. I like sorcerers though the most as you get access to pyro abilities later on than sorcerer spells so it works better IMO.

When you start off you are undead. Reverse Hollowing is done at a bonfire, costs 1 humanity (picked up as items/killing bosses/killing lots of monsters) and turns you human. Humanity items are just like the souls you can break, being 1 use items. Being human lets you access all online features such as being able to summon people, invading worlds, being invaded and so on.

There are certain things that only happen when you are a human in the story too such as NPC/mobs spawning which give you items and souls. When you are undead you can only be summoned by someone who is human. Unless you want a really tough time, avoid the graveyard/new londo ruins (though the very first area is safe and has some cool items/an npc) as they are advanced places which can and will destroy you.

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after the belltower, it isn't ideal to go forest. That area is for later. On the dragon bridge there is a locked door across from the one you first enter after killing the miniboss on the wall. Go in there, bend over and get ready for some serious infuriation. Between the Capra Demon and blighttown shanty village you will be rage filled in no time.

Also spoiler on some strong weapons/armor early in the game and tips for starting. Avoid if you don't want to know.
Spoiler:
When you select the gift at the start of the game, it's best to take the master key unless you are a thief. It lets you unlock a lot of things and can get some cool shit. When you have the key, the first thing you should do is spend as many souls as you can for leveling up or buying new spells. You are about to die so don't want them to go to waste. Spend them and go into New Londo Ruins. There are some souls in here you can pick up such as an Estoc rapier. There is a guy in this beginning area who will sell you sorcerer spells/weapons.

Anyway there is a 2nd door you can go in at the start which will lead you to a locked door. Open it with the master key and grab the soul on the other side of the door you open. Go across the bridge and go left which leads toward a bridge and then a sleeping dragon. He wont wake up unless you go near his head so run fast as you can and pick up both souls. If you can dodge his AoE, great. But you will die 99.9% of the time. These items are not only a 100% physical and 75% fire shield which needs only like 10 str, but also a divine shortsword which is quite strong against demons. Needs 10 str, 10 agi and 14 faith.

Fast forward to the dragon bridge and the shortcut you can make with the ladder. If you have a bow and about 40 odd arrows you can snipe his tail which grants you a sword. The spot is easy to find. Just walk right instead of left when walking underneath the bridge and you see his tail. Whip out your bow and fire away. The sword he drops has 200 attack, needs 16 str and 10 agi (but bows need 12+) and will last you well into the game making things much eaiser. Don't try shooting the dragon as you wont kill him. For that you need to kill a black knight which at this level even with those 2 swords is extremely hard unless you know his attacks and how to bait out certain ones you can counter.

Lastly and perhaps the best item to get is in the belltower. When you go upstairs and clear our all the zombies there is a path which a knight guards at the very end. Kill him and then knock down the clearly obvious door. Upstairs there is a guy trapped behind a door you can open with the master key. He won't reward you now but go back to the firelink shrine starter and downstairs you will see him. He gives you a medal. Now 2 things about this guy. If you leave him he will kill the mute girl behind bars, take her soul and you can then go kill him much later to return her soul and get his armor. On the other hand if you kill him now (either spells or make him leap off the edge like a dick) you will get some souls and a brutal ring which increases HP, Stam, and total weight load. However the ring will shatter when you take it off so I never take it off. Brilliant item


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Keep the yellow boss souls. Sure they break for a good chunk each time but each boss soul can be used to make 1 of 2 unique items for each soul. Theres about 9 souls all up. As for that Titanite demon guy they hate lightning and can be sniped with arrows or spells. Melee is a bitch to kill them with.

Also theres probably some good wiki's floating about with decent info on how shit works.

I used one for demons souls and it saved me a lot of pain.

lost count how many hours ive played this game today, but i just killed the gaping dragon and headed further down all these ladders, and then i get invaded by some cunt.
guess what, he's decked out in gear, and i can barely touch him even with my drake sword. he's just playing around with me, i got no choice but to be his ball of twine, so he kills me instantly and i respawn back at the fucking beginning of the whole game, aaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggghhhhh
i used the kindle near that area and it didnt respawn me there for some reason. do i need to actually rest there for it to take effect?
anyway, after some VERY close calls with rats on the way b ack to my body, i got my 30,000 souls back, fuck i was sweating at the fear of losing all those souls.

The Slough and Ornstein fight was pretty cool, a step up from the other bosses so far in the game. I did it the easy way tho, which was dumb cause I wanted Ornstein s soul to make the dragonslayer spear with :(

I think the most annoying thing I've seen so far is the Fog Ring, which makes you untargetable in pvp. Annoying enough that I'm probably going to have to change from spear to halberd just for a wide arc attack.

THe poison fog spell is awesome tho :)

New Londo Ruins - To the left of the first NPC you see when going into the firelink shrine (very VERY first area after tutorial). There is a set of stairs that lead down to another flat area which is home to a mute women in a jail type thing. To the left of HER is a stair case again which leads you down into a room with a pressure switch on an elevator. Going down that will get you into New Londo. As I've said there are some items you can pick up in the safe area at the start but ghosts will wreck your shit if you go too far in.

Dragon Bridge - Not a real area but just what I call it. When you go up (as you have been) and into the castle you will run into a section where like in the original, a red dragon is guarding a bridge.

Bell tower - Again not a real area. This is the very top of the castle and houses your first objective. Also an achievement for getting here.

Pretty sure I found a masterkey on a corpse in the undead burg, just after a miniboss standing before a gate (So as to not spoil too much :P)


I believe the ring has a poorly translated description, and just gives you +50hp

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yeah a 100% damage taking shield would be very handy as the pyro

any handy tips on distributing skills points early on as pyro DM?

If you plan on using the dragon sword mostly go 16 str and 12 dex.
If you want to use that divine sword (strong against demons and undead) then you need 10 str, 10 agi and 14 faith.

After that i'd pump endurance, attunement, intelligence and HP. Maybe in that order too. While int makes your spells stronger it's mostly used to just meet requirements for spells when soloing unless you want your caster to be death walking which case you should take real high levels of it. Endurance gives you more stamina, equip load (very good), bleed and poison resist. Attunement gives you more spell slots to use so this is good too.

If you equip say 2 fireball spells, you double the amount of charges so this is why attunement is good.

EDIT - Yeah as rza says don't break the yellow boss souls. They are named too like Soul of Queeleg and so forth. They are used to make weapons and you only get 1 of them per game.

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Ahh Demon's souls.

My bad, i thought thats what you were playing.

I dont wanna get the new one till i finish the first one.....which seems to be taking longer then i thought......

Oh that still exists in this game only in a much worse fashion. in the game there are enemies that Curse you. Curse removed 1/2 your current HP and stacks. So get cursed again and you are down to 1/4 hp. Get cursed again and you down to 1/8. Curse can be removed by an NPC or a special item bought from a vendor for 6000 souls.

i shouldnt have spent my souls on leveling up when i could have farmed the dragon in depths, now im too high a level for people doing it :(
i need equipment, not sure what weapon to upgrade after the drake sword is past its usefulness

Im still using a winged spear +10/lightning spear +5, most of the bosses in this game are more about knowing the attacks/telegraphing/timing than the raw damage output

Although the same doesn't hold true for pvp :P

The crystal sword greatsword from the vendor outside the Gaping Dragon is a good temporary weapon, tho the Drake Sword and the Black Knight sword (if your knights dropped on) are pretty awesome weapons right up till late (from what I've seen so far).

Did you get the tail from the Gaping Dragon? Thats a huge damage weapon, tho requires a pretty hefty strength to use it.

I think it more comes down to stats for later weapons, the boss weapons are mostly awesome, tho you can't make those till you get to the smith in Anon Londo

get your dex to 14, get a bow and 60 arrows, shoot the dragon tail. took no time.
i tried doing it with a bow when i had below the dex requirement and i found out after 20 mins of shooting that i was only doing 1 damage per shot lol..

There is a guy in this beginning area who will sell you sorcerer spells/weapons.

jsut went down to new londo ruins and cleared out the area, found the estoc sword etc

didn't see a NPC's down there

is it worth getting the dex to use the rapier? probably won't hurt having the dex anyway

Yeah blight town shanty village is FPS death for some reason. Made even more curious by the fact that place is fucking dark and you can't see more than a few meters in front of you. Just cleared that area out on my sorc. She's about lv 23 now.

That red tentacle thing? Yeah that's guarding a pyromancer spell.

EDIT - Have fun with the boss. Twas the first one that really made me rage.

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so yeah after going and stealing the shield and sword away from the dragon (best info ever DM) i made my way through the undead burge to this tower where you either go up or down the spiral stairs

went down first and their is this little tubby dude that looks like he's made of iron and i do about 20 damage to him and he kills me in 1 go just about

and there is this big fucking wendigo thing up the top on the wall that i have no idea at all about he just snaps me straight up...

also came across the black knight who is kind of hard so i was like nah i'll leave him till later, he's looking pretty easy now compared to these 2

yeah i beat the taurus guy, i read up basically you can get in close to him and he can't hurt you so i slashed away half his power in close and he eventually got me so i escaped and ran back to the tower and went up and did the swan dive off the top and finished him off

no idea about the tank dude, going to leave him alone for now

anyway i'm up to a bridge with a dragon guarding it on the other side, if i go right there is a dude i can talk to about the sun. i'm going to assume this is the dragon bridge.. can't see how i'm meant to snipe his tail or get down under the bridge

i had to take a break after dying in coop in blight town. it took me back to the start of the depths again :(
bah!
just killing the starting enemies in blight town required all my mental strength

The NPC is down a broken flight of stairs which are right next to the lounging zombie laying down on his side with his hand on his head. Once you reach the end there is a sorcerer/blacksmith in a jail sort of thing who will talk to you.

If you have those 3 Gold Pine Resin items from the chest behind the locked door (need master key) try using 1 of them. Lightning seems to effect BKs the most since they are beefcakes with their armor.

yeah i read about old havel last night, one tough dude

that ring doesn't just give you +30 it gives you +50% so it will scale

heh that drake sword is the tits, i couldn't imagine how gay it would be getting through here with out it

i've just killed the big undead knight dude in the undead church and found the blacksmith and that sweet sweet bonfire, man i was getting annoyed at retarting back in the undead burge.

so when do you guys use your humanities? i have like 5 that i've found but i can't justify using them with the amount of times i die

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the frame rate in blight town is such a killer. hopefully it gets patched

jesus dm, how much time do you have to play this game?

you must be better at it than i am because i've spent far more time than i normally would play just on 1 character

haha that's full on, the 2 wiki's i've been using are only partially finished obviously because the game's so new

so i spent most of the time i played today dicking around in that forest area before i realised i wasn't heading to the depths (and i was no match for those stone knignts) worked out where i had to go to get to the capra demon also stopped in and handed that black knight his own ass.

Worked out all the mad short cuts back to the bonfires and went into the capra demon who killed me, then i stopped because the rugby league was about to start

controller/windows/tv/pets survive?

The minatour demons guard the chaos ember
The capra demons guard the way to the next bonfire, and the next mini boss :)

At the moment I'm using the crystal shield (butterfly soul) and a +10 halberd, the alt attack of the shield is doing 720 damage :) 1 shotting capra demons :D


There is actually an NPC invader in blighttown, I got invaded and killed her and she's becomes an orange npc summon for the boss fight


The darkmoon NPC conversation prior to the door does tell you no one can set foot in this crypt :P

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Is there any bad side to dying as a human (ala world tendency in demon's souls?) If so is there a way to die so that it doesn't impact anything (ala suicide in the nexus?)

just killed that big red tentacle boss in demon ruins. Now theres 6~ minotaurs down below, stuff that. now for the long run back up and head into forest, and upgrade some weapons on the way.
I think my drake sword is past its due date

I made yet another character. this time a Wanderer and plan on taking him as a bow/dex sword build with little to no spells. So far he is doing well and i've just cleared out the belltower. On the way I managed to kill that first black knight you meet and his sword dropped. Yey!. I finally got the stats to equip it and god damn do the R2 attacks pack a punch! While they take a long time to actually come out, if they connect they send every enemy i've encountered so far ragdolling along the floor. Very wide arc of attacks on normal 1h attacks too so i'll see how this fairs against the Capra Demon.

the room outside of the Anon Londo twin boss is a favourite place for invaders to hang around

I was outside there when a guy invaded me. He couldn't kill me even with that gargoyle on my arse so he ran off and hid behind enemies. When I lured them out and killed them he STILL couldn't kill me so he moved to the 2 giants near the main entrance door. I changed the bridge direction (lol), cleared out the painting room and then rolled off the side of the building to get out of the area lock down. Pansy arse wimp. If you invade someone don't just puss out and hide, die if you can't beat them.

The number in the top corner will always drop with your souls when you die, doesnt't matter if your human or hollow.

To turn human you only consume 1 humanity, so if you have 3 grey, you'll have 2 humanity and be human.

The main advantage is increased drops, some human only events, increased resistance to curse, and a increase damage output. All of those scale with the amount of humanity you have.
Being human also lets you kindle the flames (costs 1 humanity) to give more estus flasks, by default you can kindle fires once to give 10 flasks, after finding the kindling rites you can kindle again, giving 15 flasks.

Having a high humanity when hollow does nothing besides risks losing them when you die.

If you need more humanity a good place to farm them is the 3 rats down the ladder from the bonfire below the red dragon in undead burg, rats seem to be the most frequent droppers of humanity :)

Just remember you can be invaded by other players if your human, not just npcs :)

The egg sack looks to be from the chaos sisters, I think other players make it spawn in your game or something :)

The egg sack guys in demon ruins can drop Egg Vermifuge which the descriptions says removes egg infections :P

Played my sorc some more tonight and she's made quite a bit of progress. I managed to kill the boss behind the darkmoon door you're not supposed to go in. Took me over an hour and about 40 tries but I did it!. Then leveled my pyro flame glove up to +15 and converted it to a 2nd level glove so it's really +16 at the moment. All I can say is upgrade that bitch as high as you can. my weakest fireball is hitting monsters for over 250 damage a cast. Chaos Fireball is doing around 700 - 800 which is just bloody brutal.

Cleared out Demon Ruins and found a fire, and chaos ember down there but the way forward is blocked by a yellow fog door I can't open yet so went back up and explored Ash Lake a bit but died. Bugger going back down there all that way so I think i'll try and kill the Anor Londo boss again now.

so you reckon level that pyro thing up that my guy started with DM?

such a shame i won't get back to this game for a while now that batman's out :\

man i don't think i've had more than 6k of souls at any one time, granted i have been using them to buy levels mostly when i get the chance to stay competitive as i move further

suppose i haven't really got that far yet

just can't see myself having 40k of souls at any one time

That bonfire is also a warp location, which is pretty handy when you have the ability :)

+10 for a new vendor hey? I better upgrade it
I mainly only have the pyro flame equipped for emergencies when I get invaded by people with the Fog Ring, at lesat I can spew poison mist everywhere and wait for them to die that way :)

Yea I know where you mean, I'll upgrade to +10 tonight and have a looksies :)


One thing thats really annoying with the online system, I think I've over leveled from exploring, and now I cant get any white/red/black phantoms due to the annoying +-10% requirement.

lol think i've played human once, to beat the belfry gargoyles so i could summon the NPC to help me

I was REALLY hanging out for this game since playing through and loving Demon's souls. From the time i have spent ingame currently, i love every bit of it. It's a game that changes the way you approach other game, and has a lot more depth to it than what is visible from the surface. Honestly, i would almost say it's been one of the best games of the year.

The one let down has been the PvP, but that is to be addressed in the patch thats currently on its way removing the lock on advantage of the fog ring, and the STUPID damage of elemental weapons.

Oh, and so you know, you can switch targets by a quick flick of the R3 stick.