is that the genuine MS wheel? Must have changed since the last review I read for them, it said the force feedback was fake (it's just rumble) and weak as piss. The bottom was apparently curved so even though it had some clamp or other to bolt to a table, it didn't work.

If they're ok now I might have to check them out, been after a cheap wheel for the xbox.

you get what you pay for. They are fine for an entry level wheel. They do have proper force feedback available - whether or not the game you are playing has implemented it properly is another question. The steering sensitivity is ok, though I have heard that it is not uncommon for steering to develop a bit of a deadspot around the middle.

Obviously not as good as a proper Logitech G27 or a Fanatac 911 setup, but fine for most xbox games.

do you have it set up on a table or just on your lap?

It is a basic steering wheel (and yes, it's the official MS one, and is also 'true' FFB **)


In it's favour:
- It's cheap (and as you've found, @$50ish in good condition second hand is the way to pick one up)
- It's reasonably 'clever' (** It's FFB when it's plugged into AC Power, and not when it's being run via battery, and the lap/table clamp system is actually fairly good too, for what it is anyway.)
- It is the only FFB wheel for the 360 (until the Fanatec gear, and now there's a single Thurstmaster wheel)

Not in it's favour:
- Its build quality is fairly rubbish
- The FFB motor is ok, but doesn't compare with even the entry level Logitech equivalent for PC.
- The pedals lack a lot of feel, and unless you coat the underside of them with velcro/rubber wander all over the room when you're trying to use them.
- The 'paddles' for shifting gears really lack a tactile feel to them.


I've avoided comparing the wheel to the 'middle market' Logitech G-25/27 as it doesn't really compete at all, and if you own a 360 is completely irrelevant.

As far as 'entry level FFB wheels for the Xbox 360' go, this is literally the only option. I recall something about a dispute between Logi and MS at one stage, and MS weren't going to let any 3rd party companies make wheels for the 360 (which is why there are a few 'rumble only' wheels available for the 360). Fanatec thankfully came along to the party, and sacrificed the right creature, and paid the right ppl in MS-land and have made their wheels for the 360 for a little while now.

With the release of Forza 4 Fanatec have released the 'CSR and CSR-Elite' wheels... to get a Fanatec system with all the 'bells and whistles' (Pedals and a shifter (and yes, the wheels have an RRP all to themselves WITHOUT Pedals, or H-Pattern/sequential Shifter)) you're looking at a starting price above $400.

I genuinely toyed with buying a Fanatec CSR Elite recently... and then the price tag of near $1000 corrected that.
It's a shame that Logitech haven't been allowed to write/publish drivers of some sort for the xbox 360.