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Why Left 4 Dead 2 Was Banned in Australia
Post by dotarray @ 02:27pm 17/09/09 | Comments
Left 4 Dead 2 Refused Classification by the Australian Classification Board in September 2009 So - Left 4 Dead 2 has been refused classification in Australia - and the rumours are flying thick and fast over just why Valve's upcoming zombie-huntin' sequel has been effectively banned in this country.
We'd heard stories that there were mysterious "adrenaline shots" thrown into the mix, with many gamers suspecting this would take the game to the 'dark side' by featuring drug use as a way to advance. However, according to the Classification Board's report, it's much more simple than that - the game's just straight-up more violent, this time around. Item 1(d) of the computer games table of the National Classification Code states that: "1. Computer games that: (d) are unsuitable for a minor to see or play;" will be Refused Classification in this country. You guessed it, the high level of "realistic, frenetic and unrelenting violence" featured in Left 4 Dead 2 means that the shooter is "unsuitable for persons under 18 years to play", so - due to our lack of an adult R18+ rating - the Board has no choice but to effectively ban the game for all Australians. The Board's report states that: The player can choose from a variety of weapons including pistols, shotguns, machine guns and sniper rifles. However, it is the use of the "melee" weapons such as the crowbar, axe, chainsaw and Samurai sword which inflict the most damage. These close in attacks cause copious amounts of blood spray and splatter, decapitations and limb dismemberment as well as locational damage where contact is made to the enemy which may reveal skeletal bits and gore. Projectile shots to infected humans can cause abdominal wounds which can reveal innards or even cause intestines to spill from the wounds. Looking at the report, it's this messy ultraviolence that seems to have upset them so much. The report goes on to explain that players choosing to use a melee weapon will be able to wipe out several Infected "in one blow", causing a pretty graphic display of blood and gore. The Board also observed that after playing for a little while, the player kills a "very large amount" of enemy characters, which then litter the environment - and while no post-mortem damage can be inflicted (another big no-no for the Board), it's all a bit unpleasant, really. In conclusion, it comes back to one of our favourite arguments - it'd probably be okay if it was a film. The interactive nature of the game increases the overall impact of the frequent and intense depictions of violence. This coupled with the graphic depictions of blood and gore combine to create a playing impact which is high. At this point, local distributors EA have stated they "are still working through the submission process with OFLC and want to explore all opportunities before making any comment." One of those opportunities could be hinted at within the report, where a minority of the Board holds the opinion that the violence featured in Left 4 Dead 2 is merely "strong" in playing impact. If the rest of the Board could be convinced of this, that would be enough to earn it an MA15+ classification with the consumer advice of "strong violence". At this point though, other than a potential appeal and some appropriate grovelling from Valve and EA, the future looks pretty grim for L4D2, unless we're doomed to get an amazingly castrated version with all the good bits taken out. Removing blood spatter is one thing, and a relatively simple artistic tweak - but taking out what is, essentially, the point of the game? That's a little trickier to pull off.
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Also maybe if a high profile game goes to band camp permanently enough people will have a whine to get something done finally (probably not).
Posted 03:06pm 17/9/09
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Maybe the australian version will have every melee weapon as a feather and we can tickle the zombies to death.
Posted 03:09pm 17/9/09
Posted 03:10pm 17/9/09
Once I establish that international versions work on Aussie servers, I will have my credit card out faster than a 19 year old girl in a dress shop during the Boxing day sales.
Posted 03:10pm 17/9/09
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Posted 03:24pm 17/9/09
And risk losing the market altogether when their platform is simply made illegal? I'm no business man, but...oh wait, I am a business man, and this is a ridiculous suggestion!
Posted 03:30pm 17/9/09
Posted 03:34pm 17/9/09
They're not doing anything illegal. They're still selling their edited version of the game. If Australians runs the risk of importing games, it's not their concern. They can turn a blind eye and deliver updates appropriate to whatever version of the game they own.
And if they do make steam illegal. Awesome. It might finally get gamers off their asses and out protesting.
Posted 03:58pm 17/9/09
Hopefully this title is enough to get us our fucking R18+ rating.
Posted 04:00pm 17/9/09
I doubt it. it's a few of server side video settings.. that's all.
people will enable god mode, play the game on their own servers with everything turned on just to see the difference.... then turn everything back for some better frames. no biggy.
hmm.. I wonder if the naked Zoey model is OFLC approved :/
Posted 04:06pm 17/9/09
i think ive seen more gore in other games that havent been banned.
also i can see avp3 getting banned for the same reason.
last edited by ravn0s at 16:06:32 17/Sep/09
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everyone wins
Posted 04:38pm 17/9/09
Posted 04:43pm 17/9/09
http://www.classification.gov.au/www/cob/classification.nsf/Page/ClassificationinAustralia_Whoweare_ClassificationBoard_ClassificationBoardMembers
Let's make a flash game out of these pics where you get to slap those grins off their faces with a cricket bat.
Posted 04:46pm 17/9/09
How many ISPs in Australia do you think will want to provide servers for a game that has been banned from sale?
Posted 04:53pm 17/9/09
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Once a game has been classified and released, then updated is it subject to reclassification?
Posted 05:12pm 17/9/09
Posted 05:30pm 17/9/09
discuss it all your want, nothing is going to change until the SA attorney general changes.
Posted 06:05pm 17/9/09
People need desensitizing, otherwise when the zombie apocalypse really does happen we'll all be hidding under our beds - instead of having a ball L4D style.
Posted 06:53pm 17/9/09
hopefully no one would ever be dumb enough to bring this question to the OLFC table. their answer would be as quick as it would be ludicrous.
Posted 06:55pm 17/9/09
If they ever implement that internet firewall I'm moving.
Posted 07:06pm 17/9/09
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does UT filter that stuff out now?
*edit*
nah I guess not
Posted 07:20pm 17/9/09
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I don't know about you, but how many of you guys vomited from playing a video game which has not been booze or medical related?
OFLC strikes again!
Posted 09:03pm 17/9/09
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fuck me I never noticed that pic in the original thread
fkn madagascar
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The whole "can do the violence yourself" to me is such a retarded stance because you can also rewind and watch the same violence over and over again in a movie. People say the difference is you're physically inflicting it, but last time i checked you have to physically rewind something to watch it again, same shit.
Fuck our rating system politics.
Posted 10:44pm 17/9/09
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In other words this is a great step forward.
Posted 11:05pm 17/9/09
Steam is regionalised as well, so no, we wont be able to get it from Steam.
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Rise up e-legions and take back your freedom, liberty! infi, I need a gun man, the revolution is here!
Posted 11:59am 18/9/09
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Thats the streisand effect for you
Posted 12:13pm 18/9/09
If this was a movie, it would be classed R18+, unfortunatly, we dont have an R18+ rating for video games which is the shitty part.
Posted 12:37pm 18/9/09
Posted 12:46pm 18/9/09
it would probably be MA if it was a movie.
Posted 12:55pm 18/9/09
(maybe games are more than violence?)
Posted 01:35pm 18/9/09
Posted 02:11pm 18/9/09
All Valve games require Steam to run, so it's not just a good chance, it's s certainty.
Shut up, pussy.
Posted 03:30pm 18/9/09
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What the fuck does that even mean?
Are you trying to say something or just coming out of the closet as a wanna be praun?
Posted 08:53pm 19/9/09
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/49656
I always wanted to buy cd keys overseas but just kinda figured this would happen.
I only chanced across this today
last edited by koopz at 20:53:19 19/Sep/09
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Posted 03:25pm 20/9/09
if this game never sees the light of day here in Aus I'm just gonna import it
also.. Teletubbies.
last edited by koopz at 15:25:55 20/Sep/09
Posted 03:13pm 20/9/09
I really hope this gets the retailers fired up enough to cause some sort of change, but I doubt it.
Posted 03:47pm 20/9/09
They should just let us play now that we've seen what they want to hide.
Baseball bat melee
AK47 and Axe Melee (the axe looks cool man )
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also - Hilter
Posted 08:51pm 23/9/09
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/ozgamers
Michael Atkinson is one man but we are many!!! Its our right as Adults and VOTERS! to protest!
Posted 09:36pm 23/9/09
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while we're at it peoples we can also fax our local member of parliament or senator (for free) with our opinion in this and net filtering.
yeah I know it's mostly about net filtering on that site, but it's worth using all the same
Posted 04:46pm 25/9/09
The younger kids these days use "dog" as an adjective to describe when someone has committed an act of unfair, mean, or otherwise unsavoury behaiviour.
#1: I just slept with my best friends girlfriend
#2: That's really dog, man.
Posted 06:06pm 25/9/09
Thanks Koops.
Posted 07:34pm 25/9/09